Recap: Redskins Defeat Titans in Body Bag Game 2
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 21, 2010 5:00 PM EST
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PrintWow. I just don't know what to say. Are the Redskins a good team or the Titans that bad? One thing is certain, this team has heart. Many of the Redskins on twitter were very outspoken that they never gave up in the Monday Night Massacre last week, and that same drive showed today.The 40 minutes in time possession assures you that you'll always be in the game. 50% 3rd down conversion is another huge stat. I couldn't have been the only one yelling in Seinfeld Kramer voice "Russssstttyyy!" every time the Titans Offense took the field. Was I the only one surprised that the Titans fans were cheering when Vince Young went out of the game?
The injuries: Portis, Rabach, Dockery, Anderson Russell, Kedric Golston, Lorenzo Alexander, and Chad Simpson. In case you were wondering, Logan Paulsen was next to come in at OL. The Titans DLine is ranked in the top 5 in sacks coming into this week, yet the make shift OLine looked pretty solid. Heyer at Right Guard made some great plays.
Game Stats
| WSH | TEN | |
|---|---|---|
| 1st Downs | 32 | 15 |
| Passing 1st downs | 23 | 8 |
| Rushing 1st downs | 6 | 7 |
| 1st downs from Penalties | 3 | 0 |
| 3rd down efficiency | 8-16 | 3-11 |
| 4th down efficiency | 0-0 | 0-0 |
| Total Plays | 86 | 51 |
| Total Yards | 465 | 373 |
| Passing | 358 | 222 |
| Comp-Att | 30-50 | 15-25 |
| Yards per pass | 7.2 | 8.9 |
| Rushing | 107 | 151 |
| Rushing Attempts | 33 | 25 |
| Yards per rush | 3.2 | 6.0 |
| Red Zone (Made-Att) | 1-3 | 0-2 |
| Penalties | 3-20 | 11-81 |
| Turnovers | 1 | 2 |
| Fumbles lost | 0 | 1 |
| Interceptions thrown | 1 | 1 |
| Defensive / Special Teams TDs | 0 | 1 |
| Possession | 40:09 | 26:34 |
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I'll put it this way
the Redskins played like a good team today and the Titans played like a bad one. it’s that simple. you guys definitely outplayed the Titans today, I’m not saying that at all, but I don’t think (or maybe I just don’t want to think…?) that the Titians are this bad. I don’t know about you, but I see two very similar teams in Washington and Tennessee; non-playoff teams that can be a bitch to play if you catch them on a good day.
that being said, congrats on the win and good luck with the rest of the year.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
Thanks daniel.
Looks like you were right about the Redskins last week and not this week!
Where are my shoelaces?
We definitely deserved to win this game yesterday.
We totally dominated the time of possession and the amount of first downs. We can also thank you guys for self destructing on that game winning drive.
I still think the Titans are a very good football team. It’s just the way the league is this year, it changes every week. 3 weeks ago the Titans looked like AFC champions… they looked amazing. Look how 3 weeks has changed everything. Not to mention now a feud between Jeff Fisher and Vince Young. Keep your head up, you got a good team and it’d get better.
Getting Collins back will help them
He’s a journeyman, but a pro. And with Chris Johnson all the Titans need on offense is a decent passer who can run the offense. CJ scared the heck out of me, damn near winning the game on his own late, and it’s not like the Redskins weren’t completely keying on him. ANY kind of balance there makes the Titans very tough to defend.
Kevin, do you see why I wanted Jeff Reed now? Gano has no leg!
Great win… Hopefully Minny continues to suck next week.
Gano has a leg
Most of his kickoffs are deep into the endzone and he hit the OT kick. I don’t know what happened on the 47 yarder he hit short, but he usually doesn’t have a problem with the distance on his FGs. Even the 51 yarder he missed had plenty of distance but was just off to the left. I don’t think distance is his problem, but I do think there is room for improvement with gano.
I honestly don’t think distance is the problem either, but he just hasn’t impressed me. The field did suck also. But my butt cheeks tighten up every time he has to kick beyond 30 yards. I just want a kicker like Rob Bironas or someone reliable, BAD.
I hear ya
I generally hate all kickers because of the stress they cause, but yeah, it would be nice to have somebody close to automatic inside 45 yards.
I mean I don't know about Gano, he's young so maybe he'll get better
But I’m just watching football now and seeing other guys around the NFL kicking 45 yarders with authority.
Of course, his misses today were from 47 and 51 yards
Not exactly gimmes. And the OT winner was NAILED – would have been good from another 10 yards out (hit the net more still more than halfway up the goalposts).
Agreed that Gano hasn’t been a pro bowler, but he hasn’t been terrible either.
Out of 37 NFL kickers this year Gano is ranked 33rd, HOW IS THAT NOT TERRIBLE?
We’d probably be 7-3 right now with a Top 10 kicker…
He's 18/22 inside 50 yards - 81.8%
Two of his four misses were from 47 and 48 yards; if you run the numbers you’ll discover that NFL kickers make just over 50% of those kicks, and he’s made at least as many as he’s missed from that distance. Of his other two misses, one was blocked.
That’s how. “Not top 10” =/= terrible.
I’m not saying he’s a top 10 kicker, but it’s been a long time since we’ve had even a mediocre kicker, much less one that was as good as Gano is on kickoffs. For once in our Redskins’ fandom can we let a talented young player develop and learn his trade? Instead of running him off and spending 10 years watching him kick effectively somewhere else (David Akers).
I understand your criticism but I think it’s over the top. In that one long kick you can see the wind killed it at the end. When the Redskins lost the OT toss, we chose to go the other direction. In that 40+ yarder that would have been good from 65.
But hey, go ahead and be the Snyder and fire him so we can go another 5 years looking for a kicker.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 22, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
I WANT A KICKER THAT CAN MAKE A 50 YARD KICK
Games come down to this and we’re not executing. He has been lucky to be getting as many second chances during games as he has.
I’m not saying he’s a top 10 kicker, but it’s been a long time since we’ve had even a mediocre kicker,
Really?
John Hall: 88%, 82%
Suisham: 85%, 82%, and then 72%
I’m all for developing young talent, but sooner or later this guy continually missing 50+ yard field goals is going to bite us in the ass, o wait it did… Houston game and the Colts game!
by Parks Smith on Nov 22, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
Suisham was good for every kick EXCEPT the ones that counted
And added to his luster by being lousy on kickoffs. For his career (so far) Suisham is 3-9 on 50+ kicks, making two from exactly 50 and one from 52 yards.
John Hall had a great season in 2005, which he then capped by missing a crucial short kick against the Seahawks in the playoffs. And even counting his one good season, Hall was 4-9 from 50+ with the Redskins, and his longest made FG in his last three seasons with the Redskins was 46 yards.
Gano has only tried three 50+ yard kicks in his career, and you’re ready to fire him? Dude.
I hope I'm wrong about Gano...
<blockquote>Suisham Gano was good for every kick EXCEPT the ones that counted
He doesn’t kick 50+ yarders b/c Shanahan has zero faith in him. He’d rather Hunter Smith pin the other teams offense back within the 20.
I like Gano, I hope he gets better. But I’d give my left nut right now for a guy like Bironas, Bryant, etc.
by Parks Smith on Nov 22, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Amen.
He’s a young kicker who will do nothing but grow in ability and confidence. Spend the time and effort in the remaining season and offseason in helping him learn and get better, and we’ll have the first solid, long-time kicker since Lohmiller.
"We'd probably be 7-3 right now with a top..."
That statement could be completed with just about any position on the field. All of the top ten at any position are taken, you need to win with who is available.
So I get beat up all week about being negative
And I said nothing but positive things all week coming off of a loss and you all of a sudden get all bitchy about our kicker after a win
WTF?
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Nov 22, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I don't think this is true
And I said nothing but positive things all week coming off of a loss and you all of a sudden get all bitchy about our kicker after a win
Are you just trying to get in an argument with me? We could of easily lost the game b/c of that kicker.
Well it was sort of tongue-in-cheek
But I’ve been more positive today, don’t you think?
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Nov 22, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, I don't know if I should be insulted
or flattered
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Nov 22, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
We were told that it was very windy on the field and it looked like Gano chunked it.
the second kick was crazy strong.
by Ken Meringolo on Nov 21, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
I mean they've been saying that every where but Bironas wasn't having trouble
Look at his stats he’s one of the Top 5 worst kickers in the league. I know you love kickers Ken, but come on dude.
The wind seemed to pick up during the game
and Bironas was kicking the other way. I’m not saying that was definitely Gano’s issue but on watching a replay of it, it kinda looks like that’s what happened.
Once again, I understand this... I'm judging Gano on his whole body of work this year.
He’s one of the worst kickers in the league.
I thought the miss in the 4th
looked like it got caught up in the wind. It looked perfect and then just flat out died. I also noticed after the OT coin toss that the Skins emphatically chose to go the other way.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 21, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
The skins captains cared more about direction than they did who won the toss. Almost before the coin hit the ground they were pointing.
disagree
he will get better at the FGs, he’s only 23.
and it is such a relief to have a kickoff guy put it in the end zone more often than not. we’ve been kicking ass on field position this year because of him (and our coverage team, which has been outstanding).
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Offensive Line
I don’t know what happened today, but the offensive line looked terrific. Rabach, Dockery, and Hicks were all out of the game, and the unit played about as good as I’ve seen all year giving mcnabb time and creating running room for our RBs. Montgomery deserves props for stepping in at center for Rabach and doing a very admirable job. Heyer had some tremendous pancakes at the RG position and creating some great running holes. Trent Williams did well at protecting the blind side, and Jamaal brown had a decent day at the right side. This team will go as far as the offensive line allows them. Today the offensive line came through.
Spot on
Rabach has been a major problem. First play he is driven back straight onto the foot of McNabb again. If the Titans score this game might have been a whole lot different.
I was saying in my column that we should make Kory the center, but Will looked pretty good today. Let’s see what the tape says.
It was incredible to see the chemistry of that makeshift line
I really liked the line-up we should keep it. Rabach is horrendous, but it’ll be interesting where we go with this line from now until the end of the season.
by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 21, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
Yes they did come through
I wish for one game they would roll with:
LT – Williams
LG – Dockery
C – Lich
RG – Heyer
RT – Williams
They had Lich at Center and Dockery at LG for a little while, but had to move Lich over to LG and bring Montgomery in at C when Dockery went down. Either way, I thought Heyer looked pretty good at RG, even though he is a little tall for a Guard.
Trust in the Shana-Plan.
Tiller suggested putting Heyer at RG long ago
Then they could use Hicks as the solid backup guy he is.
The offensive line must have give McNabb more time. The 3rd down efficiency was about 50%. The middle of the pocket
held up instead of collapsing.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 21, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
Can't believe how well that makeshift offensive line played
I’m still in shock.
Pleasant shock.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
same here
was Lichtensteiger or Montgomery playing center?
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
interesting
I’d be interested in seeing this same lineup again for the next game to see if it was a fluke or not.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
They got a whole lot better when Rabach went out...
I hope Shanahan gets the point.
by Dan Shields on Nov 22, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
we're not that good
but the Titans were slightly worse today.
Nice win
A nicely played game after the Monday massacre. Titans did not score an offensive TD which is a real plus for the D. Still don’t know if the Skins are any good, but we have 1 more win than all of last year.
by redskins-texas-fan on Nov 21, 2010 6:05 PM EST reply actions
nope.well maybe
but fisher is a bad coach.
everything you hear outside of our organization is blown up more than you’d think. Fisher is a .500 coach.
8-8 forever…
and he has no loyalty or faith in VY.
Never has is what it looks like too.
"Its like a bear, if you run it'll chase you. But if you stand still, it'll still chase you" ice0ne
How to get a Fisher Moustache.( A list of directions to Moss)
1- Pull your 84 Jersey out
2- Take the Ball Deep, and Take the Top off the Defense (Don't worry, if you can't get to it, nobody can get to it).
3- Clap once.
4- Say what you wanna say.
5- Ask if you said anything stupid that day.
6- Don't Shine Shoes! or Take Ankles.
7- If they ask why and complain, Tell them "Moss This, Moss That, MossThis MossThat.
8- Tell them that you'll come out and play today, ok Moss?
9- Your are Human and you do have Emotions.
10- Remember this is gonna be a fun ride.
11- You're Home now.
"What do you expect from me Pwnd Kuharsky? Yeah, i thought so. Back to your hole on the ESPN AFC South blog Troll!"
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 22, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
No faith in VY?
Hasn’t he always been the one to defend Vince Young? He also said VY never came up to him and told him he wanted to go back in.
I think the problem is Vince Young. He has some emotional issues. He just doesn’t know how to handle adversity… at all.
there is none
when VY messes up fisher is quick to bench him.
when KC messes up fisher kinda says " no, no, keep him in, he can do it."
So VY is given unfair treatment
"Its like a bear, if you run it'll chase you. But if you stand still, it'll still chase you" ice0ne
How to get a Fisher Moustache.( A list of directions to Moss)
1- Pull your 84 Jersey out
2- Take the Ball Deep, and Take the Top off the Defense (Don't worry, if you can't get to it, nobody can get to it).
3- Clap once.
4- Say what you wanna say.
5- Ask if you said anything stupid that day.
6- Don't Shine Shoes! or Take Ankles.
7- If they ask why and complain, Tell them "Moss This, Moss That, MossThis MossThat.
8- Tell them that you'll come out and play today, ok Moss?
9- Your are Human and you do have Emotions.
10- Remember this is gonna be a fun ride.
11- You're Home now.
"What do you expect from me Pwnd Kuharsky? Yeah, i thought so. Back to your hole on the ESPN AFC South blog Troll!"
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 22, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
and a man
can only handle so much adversity before he blows
"Its like a bear, if you run it'll chase you. But if you stand still, it'll still chase you" ice0ne
How to get a Fisher Moustache.( A list of directions to Moss)
1- Pull your 84 Jersey out
2- Take the Ball Deep, and Take the Top off the Defense (Don't worry, if you can't get to it, nobody can get to it).
3- Clap once.
4- Say what you wanna say.
5- Ask if you said anything stupid that day.
6- Don't Shine Shoes! or Take Ankles.
7- If they ask why and complain, Tell them "Moss This, Moss That, MossThis MossThat.
8- Tell them that you'll come out and play today, ok Moss?
9- Your are Human and you do have Emotions.
10- Remember this is gonna be a fun ride.
11- You're Home now.
"What do you expect from me Pwnd Kuharsky? Yeah, i thought so. Back to your hole on the ESPN AFC South blog Troll!"
by Ice0ne (CAJ) on Nov 22, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
"Was I the only one surprised that the Titans fans were cheering when Vince Young went out of the game?"
those Titans fans are blind squirrels, but even blind squirrels find a nut every now and then… Vince Young will likely never take another snap in a Titans uniform, and we have no idea if VY or Fisher is more to blame. VY can be a lion, or he can be a mouse at any time.
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We'll bring him in as a McNabb understudy, don't worry though we'll give you Rex...
Looks like the Titans may be investing in a QB this draft.
I hope you're joking
There is no way that Vince Young is a good fit for this organization
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
by Skins Fan '77 on Nov 22, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
Vince Young
would go off the deep end if he had to deal with DC media
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Some of the articles say the fans were actually booing the play calling - not Young
I didn’t think Vince did that bad, and made some beautiful throws.
I jumped over
onto the Titans blog after the game, and for the most part they seemed pissed that Fisher wouldn’t let Young go back in. Though there were a few who thought Young is soft and took himself out.
But what surprised me was how many of them hate Fisher. They were picking Young’s side over his. They almost had me convinced until I heard about Young’s temper tantrum. He acted like a little girl.
Anyway, I think I got a deal worked out with them. Seems they really like Kyle Shanahan. So we’re gonna send ‘em Kyle, in exchange for Jeff. Personally, I’d take Fisher over EITHER Shanny right now. So, once Fish gets here, him and Shanny can hash out the hierarchy, they can SHIT-can Haslett, and Big Al will start playing his fat butt off for a coach he actually likes.
So, whadaya think guys? Am I a badass GM or what?
by CJHutch on Nov 22, 2010 2:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think Its Pretty Obvious...
That when the Oline Plays well Mcnabb does also, but him throwing 50x a game is wayyyyyyyy to much. Where is this “running game” Shanny is so famous for? Do they not have the Cardiovascular endurance to get over 100yds a game consistently??
by True Mastermind on Nov 21, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions
You throw to win
and we were behind or trying to eek ahead the whole game. Plus we only had 1 RB for most of the game…OT will also skew those numbers
Suspend Colin Campbell!
maybe, but
I definitely think we’ve been throwing it way too much this year. And we were never really playing “catch up.” I could go with the one RB argument, if it weren’t for last week.
Bottom line – McNabb was not brought here to throw it 50 times. His days of “over throwing” were supposed to be over. He said so in his press conference, when he said we’d be running it a lot more than they did in Philly.
by CJHutch on Nov 22, 2010 2:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like what I saw
Injuries can really wreck your plan and kudos to whichever coach was in charge of telling the replacement O-line players that they weren’t the first choice but it was their job to make it happen.
and please dont have Gano on next years roster
May the way of the hero lead to the Triforce
Whatever faults Shanny has a coach
his teams play with a TON of heart. We saw it last week when we were down but still playing hard & really saw it this week when we went into their house & walked out with a pretty good win over a good team. These guys don’t give up, they continue to play hard & maybe some unknowns are stepping up to take over for some ineffective starters.
we're a mediocre team that beat a mediocre team
I like the win but narrowly beating another mediocre team doesn’t make us a good team – it just means we’re slightly better.
Not to be a downer but we keep setting ourselves up for frustration with our unrealistic expectations. We already improved over last year so we’ve moved up from awful to mediocre – pretty good change for 1 year.
This game did remove quite a bit of the stink from last weeks game.
We are a mediocre team
That also beat Chicago 7-3 and Eagles 7-3 (in Philly). So, we have shown we can beat the best in the NFC, even on the road.
Sorry forgot that one
So we beat two 7-3 opponents on the road and one 7-3 opponent at home. You would have a hard time finding any other team in the NFC with wins over three 7-3 opponents. Now if we could just figure out a way to beat those pesky Lions and Rams.
After the game when Heyer was being interviewed, MS tapped him on the arm and told him "I'm really proud of you."
This was probably the most complete game Heyer has played in the pros.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 22, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely
this was by far Heyers best game in the NFL. Is it getting him inside on the O-line or lack of quality on the man lining up on the other side from him?? We will see next week, the Vikings will be playing hard for their new coach, wish Chilly could have stuck in there one more week
Are they too Stubborn to put him in the right place though
Guard seems a good fit!
gutsy win
this was a mash unit today no landry 2 olinemen out mcnabb had some time today to make plays cooley was money late in the 4th and ot keiland williams was great we might have something with him and please can somebody tell portis he is done i,m tired of his act already its amazing we shut down moss with a patch work secondary great bounce back win for mcnabb and the skins gotta get healthy for the vikes next week .
lohaus #54
What a great game. There were a lot of other ‘Skins fans there. Quite a bit actually. I’d say about 1/4 of the stadium. It was good stuff. Great game.
So many injuries though. Every time I got a beer it seemed like somebody got hurt. So I stopped drinking…then someone else would get hurt. Hopefully nothing serious.
The Once and Future King
At the game I see
Guess that gives you a pass for missing the game thread. Now to find out why some other regulars weren’t posting. Couldn’t be that they have lives or non-HH friends, right?
I posted, but the wife needed some help with her program late in the game.
So, I could watch, while helping her.
Win for me, loss for the thread….
No Danny, Nooooooo - Tom Landry, 1982., and Washington Redskins fans, 1999-
Not well lately
I slept right through the game :( I’m quite ashamed.
Feel better for Saturday. You might want to stay up and watch that game.
Y’all have got a chance. :)
The Once and Future King
Oh I'll be watching.
If I die before then, there are explicit instructions to have a TV in my coffin tuned to the game lol
er, not implying
that I’m deathly ill. Just realized that sounded quite macabre lol
I had to listen to it on the radio
It was awesome to be able to hear the COOLEY cheer at an away game. Good job to all who were there.
Nice job representing us!
I saw lots of other Skins fans in the stands… maybe I saw you?! haha who knows?
+1 for the Seinfeld reference
(Though I will say that Rusty played reasonably well, considering he’s an undrafted rookie making his first start)
Unfortunately I couldn’t watch it (ugh)—but it’s just as well! A WINNNNNNNNN
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Rusty was god awful
His whole plan was throw it to Moss…who was the definition of half-assing.
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by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 22, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
To be fair, the 50 yarder was a very pretty pass
It would have been nice if Moore had actually wrapped up the receiver instead of pushing him downfield for another 20 yards, but that one pass was very nice.
All of the rest? Not so much. And to top it all off he looked like he should be in high school or something.
Most of the usual indicators did not result in much scoring differential - 19 to16.
Number of plays, time of possessions, and third down conversions were way in the Skins favor. The punt return for a TD
by the Titans was a lot to overcome. This is also the reason Banks can be a game changer in the future.
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