4 Roster Moves the Redskins Need to Make Now
by Jason Paris on Nov 17, 2010 11:26 AM EST
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PrintWow, is the only word that comes to mind after that terrible performance. We started brilliantly on special teams, but our defense was horrendous. 7-0, run,run, run, punt, 14-0, terrible 3rd down protection dropped pass by Moss leads to an interception, 21-0. Ballgame after 10 minutes of play.
I said in the pre-season that this was an 8-8 at best 9-7 team, and we all knew that this wasn't going to be easy. However that last loss was tough to take. The problem is that our top two weaknesses have remained the same, interior offensive line and wide receiver.
I propose the following four sets of roster moves immediately.
1st: Cut Mike Sellers and promote Selvish Capers.
I like Sellers, but we need to go younger since we are not a contender. I've heard that Young practices very well and is ready to take over. He did score the first TD for the Skins as well as having a decent run. Besides are we really carrying 6 RB's?
2nd: Cut Casey Rabach, promote Erik Cook and shift Kory Lichtensteiger to centre.
We know that Rabach won't be here next year. We also need to see if Kory is as good as advertised at center. We also need more options for the interior of the line. The starters aren't getting the job done. I'm not there at practice, however the better player out of Doc, Will, Cook or Capers can cover at LG.
Montgomery or Cook can also cover Center if there is an injury.
3rd: Cut Chad Simpson, promote James Davis
I think Chad did a good job while he was here, but we need healthy running backs and we can't wait any longer. Davis has played in a ZBS at Clemson, let's see if he can play in the pro's.
4th: Cut Joey Galloway, promote Terrence Austin, but first use Brandon Banks more on offense.
3 of McNabb's 11 interceptions have come on passes to Galloway. He isn't fast, he doesn't produce, nor does he play on Special Teams. We all like TA, but I would like to see Banks given more chances on offense before we see Austin.
Schematically I think we need to make two key adjustments on offense - more screen plays and more 2TE sets. Both of these ideas will back off the pass rush since we can keep either Cooley or Davis in to block with the option of slipping out in the flat to provide a check-down. Not to mention that Davis is a better receiving option than most of our WR, he just needs to eliminate the mental mistakes.
On defense we need to spend less time in our base 3-4. We don't have the personnel to run this defense yet, while it would make no sense to abandon it, spending more time in sub-packages will help. We looked lost containing Vick especially in base, next week we face Vince Young.
I have faith in Mike Shanahan. This was always going to be a rebuilding project, there will be times when we want to pull our hair out. The fact is that we are a better team than last year, that shows me that there is hope.
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Not bad ideas, I can’t disagree with the lot of them. We ain’t winning with those guys in place.
The Once and Future King
i agree
And ive been screaming to cut Joey Galloway and bring up Terrance Austin for weeks.
Fight On, Fight On, Til You Have Won! Sons of Washington! Rah! Rah! Rah!
by HailToTheRedskins on Nov 17, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Banks might actually get separation from a DB, so I support you there.
I also agree that Kory Lichtensteiger should be sent to England.
Sound reasoning on all accounts
The biggest thorn in my side this year has been Joey-fucking-Galloway. When you say those words during a game, something really stuipid just happened. Guy should have been out of the leauge LAST year, and yet here he is…
Right...
because Galloway gave up the 28 points in the first quarter.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 17, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Not saying that it’s his fault, but he doesn’t help anything either. Taking up a roster spot that someone, ANYONE else could use and actually you know, produce.
Talk to the $78 million dollar man...
about that one. You can’t be the receiver and also be the thrower, ya know?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 17, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yo, it's not that serious
The Contract actually works out in the Redskins favor
by TerpsAllTheWay on Nov 17, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
it's worse
from the other post about McNabbs deal he won’t be here after the 2011 season so we really got a 2 year rental. 2 draft picks for a 2 year rental – what a terrible deal!
But now we have the ability to trade him as well!
Even if it’s for a few late rounders….who cares!
Twas a dark and stormy night when Tony Romo turned his key...
He was scared about the prospect of going back to D.C.
When he entered his room he saw some crutches wrapped in a bow...
Attached with a note that said "you’ll need these... signed...Brian Orakpo" (thanks skinsfan28)
uh, I guess that's the best damage control we can do
pretty crappy move all in all though
I said it on another post....
with what we’ve gotten so far….I would feel better with Campbell still there and our 2 picks! Can’t ever get depth without those picks…and if we are renting a QB…..why not rent our own that costs a couple million as opposed to a fading star that costs 3-5 times that.
Twas a dark and stormy night when Tony Romo turned his key...
He was scared about the prospect of going back to D.C.
When he entered his room he saw some crutches wrapped in a bow...
Attached with a note that said "you’ll need these... signed...Brian Orakpo" (thanks skinsfan28)
Only one I don't agree with is Sellers.
Though I’d obviously like to see Capers moved up when they feel he’s ready.
hell yea, i wanna see what these young guys have. if cook or capers comes through it gives us a lot more options on drft day. i would also like to see kevin barnes play. if he cant get in at corner try him at FS on certain packeges. cant get much worse anyway
by oklahomaskins on Nov 17, 2010 12:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can't imagine our OL could get any worse
so as a fan (not someone at practice) I’d like to see our young guys get a trial by fire this year. Our line should get another overhaul (and some fresh, elite rookie talent) this offseason so we might as well see who can sack up and make himself worthy of staying.
Sellers has looked terrible at times this year and…. not quite as terrible at times. He just plain sucked last year. I’m ready for a change at this spot, and I was hoping Young would get the position from the outset. Seems like a good move to me.
I don’t know if Austin is ready for a promotion, but I still support cutting Galloway for an addition-by-subraction. I don’t know if I remember Simpson on the field for more than one or two plays since he’s been signed, but I also don’t know to what extent he contributes to special teams. I can’t say we should cut him without knowing that, because we’re probably thin on teams since Horton went on IR.
I'm ready to see what Austin
can do along with the young OL guys. I think he’d surprise a few people as a WR, kinda like Banks does as a returner.
Still waiting on news out of Ashburn about Galloway being cut.
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
AGREED!
we have nothing to lose but more games and get a higher draft pick while giving our lil youth some well needed experience!
by BurgundyNGoldKillinIT on Nov 17, 2010 12:23 PM EST reply actions
Already playing for the draft?
We still have the best record within the division, and only 2 games off the lead.
Talk about waving the white flag...
this team is not good. But neither was the second Gibbs playoff team, and those guys were really inches away from winning two playoff games on the road.
The problem on this team is not at the wide receiver position. Is it a position of strength? No. But if you mention the wideouts before you talk about the coverage skills of our secondary and the lack of pass rush from our front seven – you are high. Obviously OL is the primary problem – but again, 28 points.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 17, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I would argue that we don't lose much talent-wise.
Sellers (35) → Young (23) – Apart from getting younger at the position Sellers has been inconsistent at best. He still has decent hands, but will drop balls due to lack of concentration. He still has good speed, but would rather leap over players than initiate contact to gain extra YAC. Young has been practicing very well, and showed that he can play the position.
Rabach (33) → Kory (25) – Kory is a center, not a guard. He knows this offense very well so there shouldn’t be a problem performing any of his duties in the middle. I would argue that Casey has been the worst performer on our O-Line which says a lot about his poor performances. We get younger, and a potential upgrade. It could also save us from spending an early pick on a center to focus on other needs.
Just watch the Lions game and see how Rabach was being driven back immediately by the bigger DT’s. He was forced to take such a large step backwards that he tripped McNabb on multiple occasions. It wasn’t the only game when this has occurred.
Doc / Montgomery / Capers / Cook – I’d love to see one of the younger guys get a go first. Selvish was projected to move inside to guard, but he still as good feet and more than enough athleticism for the position. I doubt we would lose much production, but we would gain some size which would make a difference.
Galloway (39) → Austin (22) – I don’t think anyone would argue this move.
- All ages are what the players will be at the end of the year.
On Defense
There aren’t many players that we can plug into this system. Macho Harris has been a player that I would like to see put on this team. But our Practice Squad is full of offensive players and draft picks.
This is why I argue that we need to spend more time in sub-packages until our personnel gets to the point when we can run a proper 3-4.
I'm all for it!
How can the coaches not want to get younger.
I don't agree
With Cutting SELLERS
But If I was GM/Coach:
Galloway = CUT
Rabach = CUT
Simpson = CUT
My Oline would be: Silverback-Dockery-Cook-Hicks-Brown
My QBs: McNabb – and then Sexy Rexy
My RB’s: Who knows
My WRs: Moss – Armstrong – Austin – Banks – RWilliams
My TEs: Cooley – Davis – Sellers (3rd TE)
- – - – -
My D-Line (assuming you stay with 3-4) – Daniels – Carriker – Kemo (Followed by Alexander – Holliday – FatAl I GUESS)
My Linebackers: Orakpo-Fletch-Rocky-Wilson
My CB’s: Hall – Rogers – Barnes – Buchanon
My S’s: Moore – Landry
So you wouldn't start Lorenzo Alexander anywhere???
You have him as a backup DE in the 3-4 rather than starting at OLB where he currently plays?
He’s one of our best players, I definitely disagree with not starting him…
by preppiejack on Nov 17, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
preppie
i think he’s done wonders – if I had to start him anywhere I would put him at the End – when you force alexander in coverage… like we saw against the eagles he’s much weaker than orakpo – and while he is solid, he is our special teams ACE
and should play more snaps than wilson – but i’ve always like wilson and his speed and hips
I don't have any issues with the moves you propose
I would just like to question two things in the whole post-
number one-I don’t think it’s fair to say Moss dropped that ball, he could barely get one hand on it, it was so far off target.
Number two-"This was always going to be a rebuilding project", unfortunately I think the only people that believe this are us fans. I still think the front office is operating from fantasy Island and thinks they can contend with this team.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
I've always been taught that if you can get one hand on it, you can get two.
Number One: From my memory of the game the ball hit his right arm, his left wasn’t near it. You’ve got McNabb running for his life, the game is on the line, ‘drop’ may be a little harsh but you need to make a play.
However if you don’t count it as a drop then that’s your opinion. However the Joey Galloway drop on the following 3rd down throw was criminal.
Number Two: I think that the first goal of Shanahan was to change the culture of this locker-room by adding some veteran players. Hence Galloway, Bryant, LJ’, Parker and the others. It didn’t work, but the fact that this team has stayed competitive in all games bar two says that it is a tougher team than last year. That is a massive step forward.
by Jason Paris on Nov 17, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not so much
that ball to Moss was way off target, understandable when McNabb was getting mauled as usual but still a terrible throw. There was no way Moss was getting both hands on that throw.
We were in nearly every game last year, except for the Giants blowout (45-12 as I recall) and I think the team was actually mentally tougher last year. And that was with less talent.
the moss "drop"
I remember the play vivdly and there is no way moss catches that ball. He stretched out his arm and barely was able to touch the ball. I remember thinking that it was not moss’s fault and the pass was uncatchable. This one is on mcnabb.
by RobtheRedskin on Nov 18, 2010 3:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I like the line and WR moves, although
there is reason to think Capers and Cook aren’t ready yet. I can’t see cutting Sellers right now (he seems to be playing well), and don’t see why you’d cut Simpson, except maybe to make room for Davis. By the way, I wonder if the strong performances from Torain and Williams, and a promising newcomer in Davis, plus little pounding on CP, doesn’t sort of take the pressure off us to go after RBs next year?
Donnio, We need a back that can take it to the House. I am not sure about davis. We all know CP, Torain, or Williams are not going to beat anyone in a foot race.
When will you guys understand we are slow . We need some weapons !!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need some PLAYMAKERS !!!!! I think you will now agree !! How many times did I post about playmakers ??? Now you guys see we are slow and boring !!!!! We need some size , speed or both. We played a team that is fast and exciting !!!!! Jacoby Ford is looking better every day now . How about TO ?? How about Brandon Marshall ???
by LETJASONPASS on Nov 17, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Marshall isn't fast
He’s a big possession receiver who is very athletic. He doesn’t beat many people deep. But was a great short to medium receiver under Shanahan as well as excellent in the red zone. That being said Miami doesnt know how to use him. They astound me sometimes.
Fight On, Fight On, Til You Have Won! Sons of Washington! Rah! Rah! Rah!
by HailToTheRedskins on Nov 17, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Two 2nd Round Picks is a lot of ammunition...
by Jason Paris on Nov 18, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
hail, Like I said size speed or a combination of both. Brandon Marshall would fit in the size category ??? LOL
by LETJASONPASS on Nov 18, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions
Wow you astound me
We need big speedy WRs. Boy I can believe the rest of us never thought of that…
The one thing you left out
We need young big speedy WRs. Old WRs aren’t going to cut it with this team. We all know this is a 3 year rebuild project most likely, so no need to bring in older high paid WRs.
SILLY RABBITS
There’s a reason Capers and Cook fell so low in the draft.
If ya think the O-line “can’t get any worse,” try inserting those two into the lineup. (Donavan will be collecting the injury settlement money from his new contract by Monday.)
On the other hand, I’ll grant you that the whole Lichtenstieger thing is a mystery because every time I watch him, he’s flat on the ground like so much Aunt Jemima batter on the grill…..and I’m told that over in Egypt, Dr. Zahi Hawass has recently uncovered ancient hieroglyphs of Joey Galloway catching passes from Ramses II, so it MAY be time for some younger blood at WR….
Capers and Cook should be sink or swim. Very few drafted OL are on practice squads and all PS players are free agents.
No other team has tried to claim these guys since September.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 17, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
That's funny.
However if the rookies can’t play O-Line then you would go back to Dockery as mentioned in the post by having him first on the list of replacements.
Williams – Doc – Kory – Hicks – Brown / Heyer
on defense
we need to go back to the 4-3 that was a top 10 defense last year but not have the CBs play 10 yards off of the line of scrimmage.
Cut Roydell too.
Let’s get a look at… if I remember correctly.. Ray Small? Who the hell cares? Roydell is a waste of a roster spot.
I desperately want to see #18 though. But Shanny isn’t going to budge. Not only is he keeping Galloway but he continues to look to him on crucial third downs, and what’s the same result everytime? The play is not made.
I'm still hesitant to see Banks used more on offense,
mainly because I don’t want to see the little guy get killed.
I agree with all of them really
Especially Rabach. Rabach has played like ass, getting blown up and disgracing offensive linemen everywhere. Lichtensteiger isn’t great, but move him to center and put Dockery back up. We definitely need some changes though.
I like that
and I can’t figure out why Dockery isn’t starting. On his worst day he played better than either of the current starting OGs.
What could have been !!!
Cleaning house of Vinny`s failures will take sometime and find out what the F``~~~k he was smoking back when he drafted the people he did so no one else smokes that sh`~t. Damn we could have had a solid o-line by now if we had drafted the right people. We are here in the now space and it will take time to get out of the 7-9 record. This year will be a product of who is good enough to get to Shanahan`s year two plan. I expect by the Super Bowl we will see another house cleaning like last year. Maybe even Hasslet will be gone if he can`t put the brakes on the yardage the d gives up.
I wouldn't criticize his draft too much.
Williams v Okung – well i think he was right on that one.
Riley fills a need at MLB. Perhaps we will see him on the field because McIntosh is a liability in pass coverage.
Dennis Morris – I was hoping for Greg Hardy, Deji Karim or Eric Olsen. However I can’t criticize this pick because he had the fans excited that he would be the future at FB.
If Jamaal Brown can get back to full health next season then we have a very good QB and RT.
Fair point.
You can always play if’s and but’s, however in 2008 if you pick DeSean Jackson instead of Fred Davis who you then select instead of Malcolm Kelly.
by Jason Paris on Nov 18, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Capers and Cook
We can’t throw them in yet. They may pan out but if they do they’re going to be long term projects. The last thing we need to do is shell shock them. If one of them is a starter next season (or even a serviceable backup) they’ll be successes in my book.
The idea is that the best player at LG should play.
If you move Kory to center then let them all compete for the job. If that is Doc, then so be it. However since they are on the 53 you can get a much better look at them than on the Practice Squad.
It is generally accepted that the OL plays as a unit. Continuity is important for this kind of development. The Giants
have had a good OL unit for most of the last 5 years without having it filled with 1st and 2nd round picks. This year the Giants OL has had it’s share of injuries. This year their replacement OT, Will Beatty, was injured early on.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 17, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Cook and Capers may be further along than some think(wink, wink)
Don’t be srprised if we do not select a linemen in the 2011 draft. Maybe a key FA or two, but that could be it. Don’t take this as gospel; just saying though.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
Bear in mind that Capers was not the usual 22 year old college graduate. He will be 25 in December. In other words,
his time line to develop is short.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 19, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Five Redskins that need to be cut like Rocky - Riggo's Rag article - This was a very similar article
Author also wanted a Buchanon cut.
Without trying to start something, the articles were both posted on the same day, but mine at 8:46AM
Great minds think alike, and it looks like most of the fans generally agree with these ideas. Let’s hope the coaching staff does as well.
by Jason Paris on Nov 18, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with all except Sellers
His special teams contributions cannot be underestimated.
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Fair point. It is unlikely that Sellers is cut before the season.
I like Young, with the added bonus of getting much younger. He will be our first choice fullback next season. Let him start now and add an O-Lineman so we can fully count our stocks in that area to move forward in the best way possible.
by Jason Paris on Nov 18, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
We don't need Sellers on ST
when we have LA
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
I think one day
we should just send ot the kicker and Lorenzo Alexander alone for the kick off
Just the fear that they know LA will be the one delivering the hit, will result in the oppo screwing it up somehow
:)
Pommylee
i agree except for
trusting Shanahan and you saying “The rebuilding will take time”
Shanahan is NOT REBUILDING.
He has traded away the middle rounds of next years draft for a 33yr old QB and a 29yr old RT. He has shown this year that he has no idea in the late rounds how to get good players,so basically next year we have 2 picks, 1 in the 1st round and 1 in the 2nd. WE are the oldest team in the league, there is no rebuilding happening here. The FUture truly is now, only problem is the future will look a hell of a lot like the past
Pommylee
With respect Pommee Lee, but the Jamaal Brown and McNabb trades were good.
McNabb makes this team better, he needs a line that can pass protect and to adjust to this very different system. We have another 7 games to get this system under our belts and another off-season to fix the O-line and get some firepower → Our offense gets better.
Likewise with D: We have another 7 games to learn the 3-4, another off-season to get some more parts → Our defense gets better.
As for the draft, you’re assumption is not entirely true, we can trade down to late in the first – Grab Stephen Paea and an extra 3rd and 4th. Then we get Rodney Hudson / Wisniewski in the 2nd.
In this example you have a young skilled starting NG and OG, while gaining the picks lost by the trades.
by Jason Paris on Nov 18, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
my point is not that Brown and McNabb do not improve this current team
my point is that this current Roster is not going to win a SB let alone be the base of a period of dominance such as the Patriots have enjoyed.
My point is that rather than patching the tyres, we should build a whole new car.
These one year fix ups are killing us, we should be brave, trade away what assetts we have for picks, take the pain as the young players develop over the next 2 years then have the base of a truly decade dominating team
ARe you aware that the Patriots have 2 picks in each of the first 3 rounds of next years draft, this just one year after loading up through the draft on players such as Hernandez, Gronkowski, Spikes etc. In fact NE is only being talked of as a non-contender this year because they are TO YOUNG, yet they have the picks to load up with next years elite talent as well.
This is what we need to do, accept some pain, take our lumps and restock our future supply of draft picks, rather than continuously give them away for one year stop gaps
We are the oldest team in the league, we are the least talented team in the league and we have no picks with which to replenish the talent
That sir, is a recipe for disaster
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 18, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yes
McNabb and Brown make us better this year but without those draft picks we will be worse in 3-5 years. We traded the future for the present which has never worked for us.
really? we're back to that broken logic?
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
How is it broken logic? You're judging people based on an extremly small sample size.
I’m sure they didn’t acquire McNabb and Brown thinking, “hey we can win the SB this year”, I really think they had a three year plan in mind and I’m not so quick to judge people.
the 'draft picks are questionable b/c they're risky' logic
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
yeah its really sucked for the Patriots
not getting the FA and taking all those ‘risks’ with draft picks.
Draft Picks are not risks they are investments. If the Snyder era has taught us anything it is that FA’s are the risk
Deion Sanders, Brandon Lloyd, Archuletta, Haynesworth, Brown, McNabb
Whereas when we have kept our picks
Sean Taylor, Landry, Orakpo, T Williams, C Rogers
Which group of players above as contributed to more success for the Skins??
But ur right RVA, its the draft that is the risk, just go tell Bill Polian that
Pommylee
yup yup yup
my point is not that Brown and McNabb do not improve this current team
my point is that this current Roster is not going to win a SB let alone be the base of a period of dominance such as the Patriots have enjoyed.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
pomm, How can you trust a bold face liar? IE MIKE SHANAHAN. !!!! What are these people thinking talking about trusting Shanahan ?? I would make a list of all the lies this idiot has told but it would take to long.
can you say HOMER ???
by LETJASONPASS on Nov 18, 2010 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
name me the NFL coach who doesn't play these games
Not to give Shanahan a pass but all of the coaches play the game to a degree.
As for the Jamaal Brown Trade
He should be back to full health next year. Personally we should have been horrified with Artis Hicks or Heyer being the full-time starter at RT. Brown has been good, but still isn’t 100%. He will get better.
but what about
unknown draftee X
Who we could have selected with pick 37 to protect Jason Campbells blindside whilst we rebuild.
Pommylee
Jason
Your right on with all of this. I agree on all points mentioned.
I am I firm believer that we have some young talent on the O-Line already. I have been saying that Kory L could, and should be our C next season. I believe one of the two between Capers and Cook will take over the RG spot. I think we fill the LG spot in FA.
I too believe Brown will be much better next season, with a full offseason to heal, and better learn the RT position. FWIW, he hasn’t played bad at RT this year considering the situation. He should be a contributor at RT for 4-5 more good years.
If the above is the case, we could be looking at a much younger, and more talented line in 2011.
Ages as of 2011:
LT – Williams 6-5 315 (23)
LG – Capers 6-4 310 (25) or Cook 6-6 320 (24)
C – Licht 6-3 290 (26)
RG – ???
RT – Brown 6-6 315 (30)
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
insert RVA's standard crystal ball comment here
I too believe Brown will be much better next season, with a full offseason to heal, and better learn the RT position. FWIW, he hasn’t played bad at RT this year considering the situation. He should be a contributor at RT for 4-5 more good years.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Coming from the HH's very own Nostradamus, judging the ShanAllen regime with a very small sample size
I’ve pretty much kept my mouth shut when it comes to Brown, at the time a lot of us thought the trade was great. I still think its a good trade but only time will tell.
dude
this is not OBP or Batting Average
A Coach/GM combo Personnel team do not have 600 plate appearances a year, they make between 6-10 moves A SEASON. So the small sample size argument is not only wrong it is misplaced.
Shanahan has made enough moves now for us to judge the future with some degree of accuracy
We can see that of his 4 late round picks none are on the roster.
We can see that he has traded away the key middle rounds of the draft
We can see that he made a solid 1st rd pick, tho we also know that had he not signed McNabb there is a real chance he was going to take Clausen with that number 4 pick, not a certainty but a chance.
Now you could argue that this was his way of cleaning house and trying to lay a foundation, you could argue that he has a plan to aquire picks next year’ what you can not do is use the phrase ‘small sample size’ when it doesnt fit, by that logic Zorns 2 years were a small sample size, but once we saw his swing(ing gate) we had seen enough
Pommylee
I like your optimism Tiller
The fact is that we need time. Time to learn the system and to gain that trust that is essential for a good O-Line.
I am not saying that Capers or Cook is the answer, but the simple fact is that we need to find out.
The key question is whether Kory can take hold of the center position. Most ’Skins fans want Wisniewski, who is an ideal for the ZBS. But if we can spend that 2nd somewhere else we will be better for it.
My ideal scenario now has us bringing in Logan Mankins and drafting Rodney Hudson in the 2nd Round.
Williams – Mankins – Kory – Hudson – Brown
There you have a very nice mix of youth, experience on each side and talent.
However if you find that Capers or Cook can man that spot then you have more options with where your FA spending or draft picks can go.
Jason
I too like Wis from PSU but he will be a G in the NFL. Hudson concerns me with his lack of ideal size against much larger D-linemen, but I must say, I love his mean streak.
I have high hopes that we secure the services of mankins via FA. I have been preaching about this for some time now. Even if we have to make him the highest paid OG in football, I’m fine with it. He would be an immediate upgrade to our RG spot.
Don't ever let failure get you down. Remember, a very successful major league hitter failes 70% of the time.
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