Twitter Recap of the Firing of Redskins' Coach Jim Zorn
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 4, 2010 9:55 AM EST
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PrintWell, the Redskins made the firing as merciful as possible canning Zorn hours after the return flight from San Diego in the dark of the night. Here's a recap of how it went down, and I have to say, I like what I am hearing from Bruce Allen so far. This is not a shock as the Redskins franchise is as bad as I've ever seen, so hopefully this past decade of mis-management will not continue in the least bit.
Over the past year I've got to meet all the members of the DC Media which makes this all the more comical. There are some gems in here:
4:24AM @lindsayczarniak Team source: Jim Zorn was fired as head coach upon teams return from San Diego - is clearing out of Skins Park
@csnwashington: Jim Zorn leaves Redskins Park escorted by team security at 4:45 am. Team and Zorn returned from San Diego at 2:30 AM
@ESPNRadio980 BREAKING NEWS: The Redskins reportedly have fired head coach Jim Zorn
@dcsportsbog Daniel Snyder quotes about all the coaches he's hired and fired http://bit.ly/7XSmy2
@RedskinsInsider RT @PaulTenorio To clarify other reports - Zorn escort was presumably to keep away small media group that approached Stump Mitchell earlier
@dsportsbog New coach will be third Redskins coach since Bruce Boudreau was hired.
@ESPNRadio980 We will have OFFICIAL word on Zorn from Redskins at 7:30am (10 mins) with the Voice of the Redskins Larry Michael -... http://bit.ly/61UBkB
@ESPNRadio980 To clarify the Zorn & Security, Zorn was walking w/staff member to his car this morning, & NOT escorted out of building, so reports r false
@Smoke_Signals ESPN 980, owned by Redskins owner Dan Snyder, is so desperate for ratings that they used it to announce Zorn's firing
@dcsportsbog What kind of franchise has their play-by-play announcer officially announce that their coach has been fired on the radio?
@RickMaese More Allen: "I felt it was necessary to not waste a moment of time to begin building this team into a winner"
@RedskinsDotCom #Redskins GM Bruce Allen will address media at 12:30 p.m. on Monday...Tune in to Redskins.com for LIVE coverage.
@Snide_Remarks Bruce Allen: "The status quo is not acceptable. I felt it was necessary to not waste a moment of time to begin building this team into a winner."
@RickMaese RT @tombellucco: I pray he's talking about Snyder RT @RickMaese Bruce Allen: "The status quo is unacceptable"
@Snide_Remarks Really sad #Redskins need to hype their radio station by giving it the exclusive on firing before sending out release a minute afterwards.
@Snide_Remarks ESPN980 asked Doc Walker when he knew Zorn wouldn't work. My answer would have been at hiring presser when saying maroon and black.
@davidelfin A good man gone. Jim Zorn has been fired. Jim was over his head in some ways but was also a dealt bad hand by management. I wish him well.
@washingtonpost: Michael Wilbon: Zorn's long, sad vigil finally ends:http://bit.ly/5ztHVy
@dcsportsbog Joe Theismann on Shanahan getting hired: "Not necessarily."
@JasonLaCanfora with Jim Zorn fired don't expect it will be long til Mike Shanahan lands in DC. he has much staff ready. More on NFLN and NFL.com
@dcsportsbog This might be the best blog post of my life: the collected faces of Jim Zorn. http://bit.ly/4IvSDF
@jaimiegraham: A face only a mother could love! #Redskins RT @dcsportsbog: the collected faces of Jim Zorn. http://bit.ly/4IvSDF
@michelewindsor I just don't want to get excited. I do it every year jsut to get disappointed by Redskins
t@timharv: Drove past #Redskins Park on way to work. Flags were not at half mast, but four TV trucks are in the parking lot, all with their antennas up
@AllisonNazarian:please be last Monday I wake up hating Dan Snyder? Pls?
@ryanohalloran: Source: Redskins staff meeting at 10 am. Have to expect all assts will be released now that Zorn is out.
@allisonnazarian Can we fire Fedex Field next and bring back RFK?
@NattyBo: According to interweb sources, a plane owned by Snyder left from IAD and is scheduled to land in Denver this AM #redskins @redskinsinder
@jesskcostello: Another one bites the dust. This is getting ridiculous. RT@BreakingNews: Washington Redskins...fires coach Jim Zorn
@extralife Redskins had already effectively fired Zorn when they took away play-calling mid-year :)
We might as well keep it going...what are your 140 character thoughts?
Washington Times Sports (RIP): Ryan O'Halloran, David Elfin
Washington Post: Jason Reid (Redskins Insider), Dan Steinberg (DC Sports Bog), Rick Maese
Washington Examiner: Rick Snider, John Keim
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@michelewindsor I just don’t want to get excited. I do it every year jsut to get disappointed by Redskins
I’ll take a double on “staying Medium” this off season as the Redskins will once again make changes and win the off-season, but until it shows up on the field…I’m not going to get overly excited on expectations!!!
I like the direction so far…(deep breath) Ohmmmmmmmmm….
Shocking…Snyder did not even give Zorn a chance to meet with the team. Nice to see same respect given to Zorn in firing that he got all season..snyder u suck
Well, I'm sure he addressed the team in the locker room after the game knowing that might be his last speech
But agree…it’s all a mess.
Zorn knew Jerry Gray interviewed for the job weeks ago.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 4, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Snyder has no class
Snyder has no class because he is an ass. Everybody knows that. I’am still a die hard skins fan, but something has to happen. Will Mike S. still be a coach after two years and no playoffs. They never treated Jim like he was to be treated, but what goes around comes around. If they kept Jason as quarterback we are domed.
thank goodness
Zorn sucked something awful. Good riddance & goodbye
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Jan 4, 2010 10:18 AM EST reply actions
I'm actually glad they didn't waste any time
it was the humane thing to do. Like breaking up with a girl that’s so in love with you that she is blind to how tired of her you are— its better to just cut ties and be over.
I will be appearing on the NBC4 5pm News tonite...
So keep it coming with the Zorn feedback.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
Question...
With Bruce Allen making statements like he did before and Shanahan, a hard-nosed guy, likely coming in…do you think Snyder is truly “hands off” now? I’m leaning towards yes, but I said the same post-Gibbs
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
Snyder giving up a lot of control would be consistent with his history. He goes back and forth from having control (Spurrier, Zorn) to not having control (Schottenheimer, Gibbs).
by superjuan on Jan 4, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know if I would correlate how good a coach is to whether or not Snyder lightened his grip on the team during their tenure, I’m just pointing out that Snyder has gone from one to the other.
However, in the instances when Snyder took heavy handed control of the team he hired two coaches who were “good guys” but not exactly good coaches.
Bruce Allen: “The status quo is not acceptable. I felt it was necessary to not waste a moment of time to begin building this team into a winner.”
Exactly how has the status quo changed since Allen has been here? Sorry, but to me, keeping Zorn for the past 3 months reeked of someone not wanting to add 2 more names to the list of head coaches that gets flashed every time the Redskins are on TV.
And while Dan Steinberg makes a good point, that Norv and Robiskie shouldn’t count, the sports networks don’t care and would eagerly plaster the picture of the eight coaches since the arrival of Snyder.
Allen
He’s saying the way players carry themselves is unacceptable.
Same broken record for 10 years of over-priced free agents. I think a lot of changes are coming. I mean a lot.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 4, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
over priced free agents is right
at the nflshop.com they are still trying to unload Jason Taylor Redskins jerseys!
I wish Taylor was a free agent pick-up. The Skins gave up a 2nd and 6th rounder for his one year here.
Taylor hahahahahahahahaah
What a joke he gave up the draft picks for Tayor.Oh well shit happens and will always happen
Will it change......proably not.
Danni, is in control wait until the pretty new face walks in the room (free agent), He
can stop talking about him and wants to bring him in…. shanatan says.no, we need
O-line . like the Dallas Cowboys…. An he goes out and buys a over the hill free cornerback….like DH This will not change anything. This is how he operates. I feel sorry for the tan man, but he’ll get his millions and move on in a couple of years…..and so the story goes…. the Cowboys and eagles winning the division every year and we holding at a 6-10 average……We are the Cardnals of the NFC past, it just hasnt sunk in yet. I wish it was different I miss the beatdowns we would put on the NFC East… I remember the Cowboys coming to RFK and the bleachers would be shaking like an earthquake…..They feared us, now they look at Washington as 2 easy wins, we are pansies.
if the status quo is not acceptable..........
then why is danni still an owner….. step down do us all a favor. turd.
when he hired Zoin....
Zoin said the redskin colors were Burgundy and black, hopefully Bruce will do a little better at the interview than vinnie and the turd did. Flush that turd down.
If the Redskins bring in Shanahan, cut Portis and ARE, and draft Okung...will that change your mind on Snyder?
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
it'll go a long way
for me personally. It took him and his merry men to get me to this point of despair. I’ll forgive him completely when the product on the field is competitive once more
SpotieOtieDopalicious
It's a start but the same record with different names
Until the team’s performance turns around then nothing has changed. All the changes in the world do not matter if the outcome is the same…
I’m grading Allen, Snyder and the Redskins purely on wins and losses:
Drafting Okung would be the obvious move but it assumes that he would fall to #4 and I just don’t see that happening. If it some how were to happen, I would expect the Skins to do an “Orakpo” and RUN the pick to the Goddell.
Cutting ARE has to be a given at this point, isn’t it? So to me the only question mark here is if they cut Portis. It would seem to me that Shanahan would want to keep his old RB, so I wouldn’t be surprise if they cut him or not.
So in other words, no it wouldn’t change my mind on Snyder mostly because I’m not using the off season to evaluate Snyder’s performance.
Shanahan traded Portis to us...
I think neither like the other a whole lot. I see CP retiring or going out for minimum to another team.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Shanahan traded Portis to the Skins because the Skins gave up a franchise and potential HOF CB and a 2nd round pick. He’ld have to be brain dead to pass on that.
Besides, my point was that I wouldn’t be surprised if Portis stayed or leaved and neither would effect my perception of Dan Snyder.
Dan has a way with perceptions of himself.
I’d just as soon see CP gone. I know he has done a lot, but the not practicing issues just gird my grid.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
He has 10 years to make up for.
That doesn’t happen in one offseason—but he can make a good start.
It pains me that the draft isn’t until April. With the uncapped year and the restricted free agent situation, the only viable means of rebuilding a team is through the draft. While this is a good thing (teams should be built through the draft) it just sucks that we’ll have to wait 4 1/2 months to see just how much things have changed.
by CarverM on Jan 4, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ugh
we’ll have to wait 4 1/2 months to see just how much things have changed.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
the good side
is that he has time to make a reasonable plan and scout the college players. While it’s frustrating to wait it will be worth it if we have a good draft.
Completely agree
He has 10 years to make up for.
That doesn’t happen in one offseason—but he can make a good start.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
That's why it is so critical not
to go down the path of we need a “franchise QB” in this draft.
That doesn’t happen in one offseason—but he can make a good start.
A new QB is a waste of precious draft resources and a step in the wrong direction IMO.
Of course, if it is Shanny & Son, and son brings some sort of “spread offense” from Texas, then I doubt that JC would thrive under that. So this is a bit of a quagmire here for the impatient – mainly me.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Jan 4, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it would be different
if there were a Peyton Manning level of QB coming out but there isn’t so I agree.
It would help
but Snyder won’t start to get anything close to a pass from me until we have several seasons absent his meddling. Whatever happens this off season will have to be vindicated by what happens in the 2010 regular season. I don’t expect a Super Bowl or even playoffs necessarily but you can tell when a team is moving in the right direction (Marty) and when it isn’t (Zorn).
Also I think the immediate firing was good. It avoided putting him through even more wrenching weeks of torment. I also think Allen made the right decision by keeping Zorn in place to finish out the season. It gave him an opportunity to evaluate all of the parts without the upheaval of a new coach.
by SkinsOsTerps on Jan 4, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
And by don't expect playoffs or SB
I meant not immediately, not ever. :)
by SkinsOsTerps on Jan 4, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Wow!!
Looks like we are getting our wish: Shanahan Sr, Shanny Jr. as OC, and Zimmer as DC. Here’s to a new era and DISCIPLINE in our players. Wonder how many empty lockers we’ll have coming into the draft?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
thats a start why stop there
cut smoot
cut hall
cut rock
cut moss
cut randle
cut collins
cut landry
cu JC
cut haynesworth
I’d rather watch a group of average players perform and build a chemistry and improve and win games on there will to win than think that "I signed for 100 million how I can sit back and only play 3 downs….. I’m over that kind of redskin football.. Art Monk was never the best in the league, but at least once a game he caught the ball for a TD or a 1st down that we had to have to keep the drive alive. This guys laid down for Giants, Eagles and the Cowboys…plain gave up. Know one wanted to catch the ball no one wanted to block. Are you saying that after 16 weeks of practice every day, you still don’t know how to pick up a blitz…and protect the quarterback???really if thats the case put some pads on Danni and I’ll take a run at him…..
if JC had 4 wins to finish the season
would you still say keep him? It’s like the girlfriend that you know has issues…but hey they will get better, and hey he’s on a 4 game win streak…..
cut the dead weight…
What make me so sick is the cowboys had Drew bledose (slower than JC) and waiting in the wings undiscovered was Romo…. We have JC and in the wings…Collins and vinnie put Colt on IR???? why wasnt the thought put forward that hey, lets see what Colt can do? If he’s got IT… This will not change.
Slowly and droolingly
the Colt faction returns from the grave.
by SkinsOsTerps on Jan 4, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Colt is not someone we can rely on
He deserves another shot next pre-season, but we have to make other plans. So either JC, another mid-level FA (which all the FA QBs are), or draft one (not in the 1st round).
Whatever QB they draft in the 1st round will end up in the trauma unit.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 4, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
I just can't bear to watch the cowboys play this weekend.......
I’ll take my wife shopping for…..furniture anything to avoid the tv. I hate the cowboys.
by blan442 on Jan 4, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
too bad the Eagles are so beat up
Not that I really want to see them win either but any time the Cowboys lose it’s good.
In an uncapped year...
I actually think we have an advantage in the free agent market thanks to our horrible record. And that is BEFORE Snyder spends his money.
I think Bruce Allen has a real chance to go out and find a bunch of talented guys who are not necessarily feature players and bring them in to build what could be a very cohesive unit.
Any chance of trading Santana Moss to New England
now that Welker looks to be out of the playoffs?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
trade deadline is past
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
different players, different WR types
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
But until Sunday almost always got open
What’s with that? Technique? He’s not much bigger than Santana.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
It's hard to get open when the QB is on his back and there is Zero run threat
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
technique. smarts. quickness.
10-20 other physical attributes besides body size.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
make the team better by addition than subtraction..................
so, the car has a blown engine………Lets get new headlights and new seat covers…No one will know it has a blown engine, it “looks” fine. Until you start 1-4 and try to pull the team together and the bad attitudes you left start to effect the positive ones you brought in. DHall didnt help this team in the lockerroom. His attitude affected the defense and there approach to game. There needs to be homegrown leadership. There hasnt been
one in a long time. Then we can start taking steps forward, we should have a pretty good schedule next year, hopefully we can build on the first 4 games and get some momentium. But, if he doent change the major parts then the goal of the SB is that much futher away. I’d rather go 1-15 build on it with draft picks key pickups of role players and win a division within the next 3 to 5 years. Then have this great “team” crap and find out halfway thru the season that the engine was the same thing from last year……we will wait another 10 years to get to the playoffs….. The eagles cowboys and Gaints arent going to come down to our level we will have to move up to theres.
Zorn needed to go, but...
Escorting him out of the building is low class, Snyder style.
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