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Washington Redskins All-Decade Team - Locking Down the Corners

We'll keep this moving, and to keep it at least somewhat fresh and lively, we'll jump around the field back and forth across the line of scrimmage. To reiterate the rules: a guy just had to suit up between 2000-2009 to be eligible. If we don't like a guy because he only stayed for a cup of coffee, fine. But if we decide that a guy who has little service time in this period is a player we want or need, his tenure in D.C. won't be held against him.

Current Hogs Haven All-Decade Team

QB: Brad Johnson, Jason Campbell, Mark Brunell

Note: Despite my desire to go with only two quarterbacks, the will of the people can't be ignored. This battery of signal-callers gives us some optionality and above average depth. If you want to avoid the deepest of depressions, try not to think too hard about the QB tandems other franchises could toss out there:

Green Bay: Favre and Rodgers
Philly: McNabb and Vick
San Diego: Brees and Rivers
NE: Brady, Testaverde and Flutie

OK...that's enough...can't put myself through that. Feel free to toss some others out there. If you have the time, please come up with at least one or two that would be WORSE than ours. It would make me feel a lot better.

Next Up: Cornerbacks

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Going into the weekend, I figured that it would be best to knock out a couple easy picks and let you guys stew over who to add.

Champ Bailey and Darrell Green are going to get automatic bids today at the corner spots. We will carry five corners on the roster at this point, with the option to add another one later depending on who we like and what we still need.

Don't get hung up on the fact Darrell was 100 years old by the time his career was winding down early this decade (we are getting him at his average best as a Redskin.) He could still cover and he would still throw his body at ball-carriers. Even if we were hesitant to add a 40-year old to this team, his presence on the field and in the locker room is big. He was an emotional leader and the players around him appreciated him for his physical abilities as well as his consistency. We could use that on this squad.

As for Champ, what can I say? I am still upset he left town. In retrospect, he kind of did what many fans wish they could have done: He told Dan Snyder he was done with him. Champ is no dummy. You could say he didn't miss out on anything professionally by moving on to another team. My only argument there would be that any defense that had both Sean Taylor and Champ Bailey on it would have been exponentially better than a defense with only one of them. Finally, when we get to the WR position, be prepared to flex Champ onto the offensive side of the ball. He is going to play both ways on this team (in fact, I envision games where Sean Taylor and Champ Bailey would play together on BOTH sides of the ball.)

I sincerely doubt there will be much debate over the worthiness of either Champ or Darrell. They are layups. Beyond them, I think we have some serious debate. I will go on record now as saying I do NOT want Deion on this team. It is our first chance to snub an otherwise deserving athlete who probably belongs on the All-Star roster of every team he ever suited up for, but he is not welcome on this team. Any guy who has gone on record saying that his choices not to tackle running backs were "business decisions" is not the kind of football player we want on this defense. What we lose in natural covering ability we gain in attitude and ferocity. We want teams to know they can't run on this unit. With Deion on the field, there is a red carpet to his side for running backs. That is unacceptable. So think hard-nosed corners who can cover but who are not afraid to assert themselves against the run.

There are plenty of guys we can add at this position to strengthen it...let's put it this way: we're much stronger at cornerback than we are at quarterback.

Fred Smoot led the team in INT's from 2001-2003, Shawn Springs did it in 2004, and Carlos Rogers...uhhh, well the records do indicate he has some INT's (I believe his career total is 6...ugh.) Walt Harris, David Terrell and DeAngelo Hall are also guys who are in the conversation. I will put everyone down as individual options and we will put in the top 3 vote-getters. In order to keep the poll/vote a little easier to handle, I'll limit it to 5 or 6 options. If people want to suggest someone outside the vote, make sure to kick up a comment thread on that person and make a case. When we are filling out the team in a couple weeks with extra players at various positions, those are going to be the guys we end up choosing from.

Remember, I am not "forgetting" anyone. I am just throwing out some ideas. If you feel strongly about a player and you don't put him up for debate, then you are forgetting him!

Poll
Which cornerbacks join Darrell Green and Champ Bailey in our secondary?
Fred Smoot
134 votes
Shawn Springs
526 votes
Carlos Rogers
31 votes
DeAngelo Hall
82 votes
Walt Harris
15 votes
David Terrell
6 votes

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Put me down

for old Shawn “Black and Blue” Springs

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."

by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 29, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

True

I would have voted for Smoot if he started the “Smoot Boat Tours Inc” that I’ve been waiting for for years.

by travisjh86 on Jan 29, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, he gave us some very good years...

and I loved how he would D up TO. Springs is no Champ Bailey, but he is an exceptional corner.

by Sugar on Jan 29, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely Springs

with Smoot v1.0 a close 2nd. I’m still hoping D Hall develops into the turnover machine he was at Tech, but I haven’t seen it here yet.

by CarverM on Jan 29, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

doing a damn lot better than the other corners though

that’s not saying much though.

It’s like the ball is looking for him though. Anybody remember the game when the ball hit him in the hands on the sidelines?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Jan 29, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

In his 1/2 of 2008

it definitely looked like he had the ball magnets turned on. I’m defintely excited to see how Haslett utilizes his strengths next season.

by CarverM on Jan 29, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone to add...

Not as a starter, but for depth I think Ryan Clark should at least be in the discussion in my opinion

by tony420 on Jan 29, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

i would love to see ryan clark back in a skins uni. we should of never let him leave. but that seem snyders business model when thjey are young let them leave and sign the old washed up vets. and what does that do- comes back and bites us in the ass

by Skins4ever on Jan 29, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he's available

though he is coming off a bad year

by BayAreaBullet on Jan 29, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

good

the one thing i know bout the steelers is that they dont sign their own free agents if they ask for the big money, look at Alan Fanaca

by Skins4ever on Jan 29, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, and “The Sheriff” Stanley Richard as safety. haha

by killianskid34 on Jan 29, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

NEVER CARLOS ROGERS

NEVER EVER!! Justin Tryon has already proven to me he worth waaaay more then #22. I cant wait to see him traded to ATLANTA

by Elaw6 on Jan 29, 2010 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

Im at a loss

For why Hall should be discussed. I understand that the coverage depth was a coaching issue but at some point you have to wrap your arms around the guy carrying the ball and bring him to the ground. Way to get juked by a quarterback for 10+yards on 4th and 10. Good speed though. He would probably make my all-decade track team

by TJL on Jan 29, 2010 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Carolina Panthers QB's

Jake Delhomme, Steve Beurlein, Vinny Testeverde

I’d say that is worse.

Cleveland Browns
Jeff Garcia, Trent Dilfer, Derek Anderson

Considering only DA played their in their prime, much worse than us.

by Mr. E on Jan 30, 2010 6:47 PM EST reply actions  

More

49ers
Jeff Garcia, Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer is pretty comparable.

Dolphins
Pennington, Culpepper, Fiedler, Trent Green

Bills
Flutie, Bledsoe, Trent Edwards?

Bears
Orton, Cutler, Grossman

Lions
Garcia, Kitna, Culpepper, Stafford, Charlie Batch

I guess for guys like Culpepper and Jeff Garcia it depends if you are counting abilities while on that team or at their peak.

by Mr. E on Jan 30, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Orton and Cutler

Were never on the same team. They were traded for each other

Foaming at the mouth from all the excitement of a "Kindergarten Ninja"-less Front Office!

by Rabid on Feb 1, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

That is their

All-decade team of QB’s.

by Mr. E on Feb 1, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Shawn Springs should start

Springs and Bailey starters. Darrell at the nickel with either Smooth or Rogers the Dime back.

If for nothing else, Deion should make our team as a PR.

by Mr. E on Jan 30, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Springs over Green?

Are you high? Darrell Green is the best corner to ever play the game.

by CarverM on Jan 30, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm high and still think that is ridiculous

unless you mean because Green was at the end of his career in the 2000’s.

by BayAreaBullet on Jan 30, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going by

how they played for the Skins in the 2000’s, not career.

I understand he is a sacred name around here, but that’s just my opinion. He would also be on the field quite a bit with all the spread offenses of today’s game.

by Mr. E on Jan 31, 2010 4:02 AM EST up reply actions  

That makes more sense

I think with the way this works we get to have Darrel Green at his best though, haha. Springs was a bit inconsistent as well.

by CarverM on Jan 31, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the rules

Sugar set were that the guys we get would be in their prime.

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Jan 31, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

UGH

Deion shouldn’t have made THIS team as a PR. Why would we put him on a Top ANYTHING list. That move was the single dumbest thing Dan has made since he’s been here. We are still feeling its repercussions. That little bastard dumped the best return man of all time for Meion, who was all flash. Think about it – in one move the FO

A) – brought in a guy who would make us the joke of the league for years to come (not to mention collect a paycheck from us for years to come),

B) – jettisoned the aforementioned best return man ever, who also happened to be everything Meion was not (i.e. locker room leader, team first player and, oh yeah, paid commensurate to his PRODUCTION).

C) benched the most beloved Redskins ever who, while perhaps not as productive as in earlier years, was 10 times the better option to start considering the risk/reward scenario with all these facts taken into account

by CJHutch on Feb 1, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

woops

meant to reply to Mr E above

by CJHutch on Feb 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Because

Deion was the actual best returner ever and he qualifies?

by Mr. E on Feb 1, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

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