Chad Reinhardt to RT
by Tiller56 on Jan 25, 2010 8:48 AM EST
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I haven't seen this mentioned on HH yet, but I have been thinking of some options that might make sense for our 2010 OL. Why not try Chad out at RT? First lets start out with some backgroung on Chad. He was the 2007 Div 1 AA offensive lineman of the year. He was first team all-conference, and first team all-american at LT. He was a 3 year starter in college. Described to have excellent mobility, and a mean streak, Chad was also voted as an academic all-american. He was selected to play in the Senior Bowl, and was invited to the NFL combine. He did however play against inferior competition at the collegiate level.
Here is a link to Northern Iowa's website with his profile:
http://www.unipanthers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/rinehart_chad00.html
| Chad Rinehart | OT | 6'5" | 320 | Northern Iowa | ||
| Pick Analysis:Rinehart was very impressive at the Senior Bowl and has good strength. He's able to pull and moves well for a guy his size. He may have potential to play tackle as well, but has not played against strong competition so he will need some time to develop. He gives the Redskins depth on the offensive line with a chance to grow into a starter. | ||||||
This is what was written about Chad post draft in 2008:
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2008/tracker#dt-tab-set-1:dt-by-team/team-was
As you can see, he has the size and strength to play T. He may have been playing out of position at G. I would like to see the staff give him a shot at RT in the spring to see if he is up to the challenge. Who know how he will play at RT. It is however, the position he has played since high school, and the position he seems most comfortable at.
This could give you an idea of a potential 2 deep, with Reinhardt at RT, and a few draft picks and FA's mixed in:
LT - Levi Jones, Charles Brown(R- 2nd rd)
LG - Dock, Paul Fanika
C - Chad Reinhardt, Kory Litchensteiger
RG - Eugene Amana(FA-Titans), Eric Olsen(R- 4th rd)
RT - Chad Reinhardt, Heyer
| Chad Rinehart | OT | 6'5" | 320 | Northern Iowa | ||
| Pick Analysis:Rinehart was very impressive at the Senior Bowl and has good strength. He's able to pull and moves well for a guy his size. He may have potential to play tackle as well, but has not played against strong competition so he will need some time to develop. He gives the Redskins depth on the offensive line with a chance to grow into a starter. | ||||||
| Chad Rinehart | OT | 6'5" | 320 | Northern Iowa | ||
| Pick Analysis:Rinehart was very impressive at the Senior Bowl and has good strength. He's able to pull and moves well for a guy his size. He may have potential to play tackle as well, but has not played against strong competition so he will need some time to develop. He gives the Redskins depth on the offensive line with a chance to grow into a starter. | ||||||
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Rinehart
I agree he has potential, I get the feeling that he did not perform well under Joe Bugel and the Hogs mentality
And may be an option at RT or RG
I do not like the lineup provided for the team
Center: Kory is a good backup but the Redskins need to sign and keep Rabach
LT Levi Jones—> Which is serviceable but showing the #2 pick as backup means the #1 pick did not go OL
It’s the line and the #1 pick needs to be the line!
Perhaps in this scenario we traded down and
out of the 1st round. The only way we do that I think is if we end up with all of the Patriot’s 2nd round picks, but I doubt that will happen. It is interesting that Chad Rhinehart is starting at both center and tackle though, ha.
He must be a game changer!!
LOLOLOLOL, two chest bumps and a fist pound to you!!
It is interesting that Chad Rhinehart is starting at both center and tackle though, ha.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
A different Pats/Skins scenario
In trade value (TV), the Pats 1st round pick (22nd – 780TV) plus 2nd Round (Jaguars – Currently 47th/48th Overall – 420/430)* and
2nd Round (Currently 53rd Overall – 370).
Skins 1st (1800TV) less Pats picks sum = 1820TV
*depends on coin flip
The Skins would have to offer some other sweetner to make the deal.
Pats would have 1st round 4th pick and 2nd round pick (42nd or 44th*). They would get the top notch OL and the Skins would get a 1st round 22nd pick and a additional 2nd round pick.
by Jefferson1935 on Jan 25, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, i'm sticking by my feeling we draft a QB at #4.
I don’t really agree with it 100%, but I think thats what is going to happen, so I have been basing some of my predictions on that. I did have us taking Brown in the second, and I put him behind Levi for the time being, as I believe it could take some time for him to develop and add a little strenght. He may see his way to started by mid-season, who knows. I do however feel he is a good OT prospect, as is a good fit for the zone blocking scheme.
Do you think Buges
was just brain dead the last two years? We had a revolving door at right tackle, and I don’t remember Rhinehart ever being considered there. He may have been a tackle in college, but so was Robert Gallery, both of them play guard now.
We let the rock ( John Jansen) Go, and plugged Heyer in there. When Samuels went down this year, Reinhardt wasn’t able to plug either tackle position. When all the guards started dropping, it seems he was the third or fourth option. Other than two-year-old scouting reports and YouTube videos, there doesn’t seem to be much evidence that he was even second string at either position. I think Joe bugle knows enough about line play to have made the right decision regarding Reinhardt.
The world looks mighty different when you're peeking out your belly button
Skins, Read my fan post. I am still trying to figure out why he let Jeremy Bridges go. He now plays for Russ Grimm/ Arizona.
Most people have so much love for Joe that they are blind.
by LETJASONPASS on Jan 27, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Rhinehart as Tackle? O-line?
I would like to see the new staff reconfigure this line to be more effective also.
I think Rhinehart could play T and was forced to play G because of injuries. I still think he can play G.
I also think everyone is giving up on Heyer too early. He has only had 2 years to learn a difficult position, and with the injuries last year, the line never learned to work together. Heyer is a grader who can plow at the point of attack given the experience and cohesion of a steady unit. I would like to see Heyer 1 more year with this coaching staff.
I think we have to keep Rabach at C this year, and let Litchensteiger work into the position for 011.
Amano would cost us draft picks, but he is a solid player.
Dock is also solid.
Depending on Senior week and the combines we need to find another LT. We might also bring in an aging vet to solidify that position.
Amano is unrestricted.
So he wouldn’t cost us anything except the contract we signed him to and the signing bonus we offer him.
how would Reinhardt start in 2 positions
nobody’s that good. :P
Was it a copy/paste error in the listing where you have him starting at center?
You know not what you speak!
J Cribbs is that good, if the Redskins picked him up from Cleveland he could take 3 spots!
Can’t you read, it’s been posted and posted again and again….Head butt!
So you guys want to move this bum to RT based on a couple 3 year old scouting reports and what he did against some 1AA losers?? If thats the case I have some old Vernon Gholston reports and game film vs Youngstown State you might be VERY interested in.
This guy is a loser and has been known since day 1. Does anyone have Buge’s old quotes talking about him and just not having what it takes??
VOID!!!
Harsh
but I’ve got to agree with the sentiment. If he has good feet, maybe his skill set is more appropriate to a tackle; but Rinehardt just hasn’t shown us anything at all yet. His coaches see him in practice every day. If he’d flashed the ability to do anything good for us at tackle, he would have gotten the opportunity this year.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 25, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Bugel's quotes
He said at the begining of this season that the difference between Chad last year and this year was “night and day” which in turn led people to believe that he was going to be an all star.
Hell I even believed him until I actually saw him out there on the field.
He was looking solid at G before his injury.
Also, it would be hard to judge him from just his rookie year. Some really good one in this league didn’t become productive until their 3rd year in the league. This counts even more when you have a guy that comes from 1AA.
The kid has only had 2 years in the league. No way he was coming in as a rookie and beating out Samuels or Jansen. He was expected to be a contributor his 2nd year, but it was at G. I may have taken some time for him to come around, but I believe he did toward the middle of the year, right before he got hurt.
I remember my reaction when he went down,
it was like “crap, just when he was starting to contribute!”
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Who knows what he could do at RT if given the chance.
I can’t believe he could be much worse than Heyer. Don’t forget OT is his natural position, so you could say that he has been playing out of position for the last 2 years.
I'm guessing strength is a issue
Chad did not do the bench press at the combine, but had decent times in the 40, cone, and shuttle. He also didn’t do the press at his college day workout. Buges did say that Chad greatly improved his strength between year one and two. I assume he didn’t do the bench press at the workouts b/c it was on the low side. He may the have quickness to play tackle, but he will need to build strength and maintain his quickness before he is considered at tackle.
I would support moving Levi to right tackle
and drafting a left tackle with the #4 pick. This would give us two legitimate tackles. Dock at LG, maybe draft a center or just let the new pick up Lichtensteiger battle Rabach for center and everyone else battle for the starting RG and the left overs as backups.
Of course, I hope we draft more legitimate Offensive lineman and get the ball rolling.
When you think about it, we already used a pick this year on a DE. So using at least 3 picks this year on O-lineman is not out of the question, given the immediate needs we have their.
skinsymets wrote:
“When you think about it, we already used a pick this year on a DE. So using at least 3 picks this year on O-lineman is not out of the question, given the immediate needs we have their.”
I suggested this approach in another post and got torn up for it. People saying too much youth too fast. I guess what we need is a good balance of young FA’s, rookies, and vets to teach the rooks for a year or two, much like I suggested in the beginning of this post.
I'm not against having 2 or 3 rookies on the field in the same year
they may be rough in the start, but they will all mature together and form a cohesive unit. Then we will have a dominant offensive line for the next decade, because an offensive line is more than the sum of its constituent parts.
I'm not sure why they would rip into you
Drafting lineman has to start at some point and this year should be that point. If we draft some lineman then I believe we would have a decent balance of FA’s, rookies and vets. Vets being Rabach and possibly Samuels and Thomas. Of all these though, drafting has to be the best way of instilling youth with experience down the line, and of course this was the most neglected way under you know who.
It’s my opinion that Zone blocking lineman are a little easier to draft for because they don’t always have to be the biggest and most athletic, thus many of the so called smaller sized lineman are usually around in later rounds. So if Shanny decides to go after say someone like Berry with the #4 pick it wouldn’t suprise me because that could really impact the offense having shorter fields on average and etc., etc. But then using the middle round picks for lineman becomes even more critical. So we’ll see where he goes with it.
It’ll be hard to get the #4 pick wrong because of the talent at the top of the charts except for QB which really wrenches my stomach. I just can’t see them going after a QB with the failure rate being as high as it is in the 1st round.
Tiller in the one post
it seemed like you wanted to rebuild the whole roster. In many respects Vinny has not left the team with many options. As I have said several times the age mix of the roster is all screwed up. There is a lack of the middle range players in terms of age and experience.
In other words you were MORE RIGHT THAN WRONG, but it comes across as too radical (maybe in one season), but what other choices are available. One would be to bring in more of the middle range players in free agency and to do a major roster surgery of older players.
Actually, you have probably done more to bring about agreement on HH by making your opinions clear concerning the 2010 roster.
by Jefferson1935 on Jan 26, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that one post did come off a bit radical;
but I did try to mix it up with both youth and younger FA’s. This is my passion right now; at least until baseball starts.
Anyways, thanks for the compliment.
Thats the advantage of signing a aging vet.
Signing a proven vet for a couple of years allows the younger guy to gradually work into the position.
How about insted, we sign a talented Tackle?
Chad hasn’t panned out. He was considered a huge reach when we drafted him, and now we know why. Thanks Cerrato/Snyder.
Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!
He has potential and is still young.
He was playing pretty well before his injury. I’d like to see the staff continue to try and develope him before we give up on him. If thats means trying him at RT. so be it.
Until Kevin posted his article on OL citing Pro Football Focus (PFF),
I thought Levi Jones was a possibility for right tackle. Even Heyer performed better at right tackle than left, yet not good enough to be a starter. Wade Smith (an unrestricted free agent) switched from left tackle to right guard and his performance using a PFF adjusted score (see 2nd link below) was 114 at RG and 89 for the whole season.
http://profootballfocus.com/by_player.php?tab=by_player&season=2009&page=4&surn=S&playerid=1393. Wade Smith –
http://www.hogshaven.com/2010/1/29/1283928/how-to-have-a-good-offensive-line. Even Randy Thomas did not have that great of a performance in his last full season in 2008. The Skins have altogether too many OL that can only play RG.
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