Poll: The best choice for starting QB in 2010 is...
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 12:28 PM EST
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I'm wondering what the consensus is on our board on this issue. I asked a few months ago where we thought JC would end up in 2010. The majority thought he would stay. In light of the recent talk about Campbell staying or going and how much we can/must upgrade the offensive line, I wanted to poll you on the question of who actually is the best choice.
My take after the jump.
My personal opinion breaks down according depending on objective:
1) OBJECTIVE is to WIN NOW: Sign Pennington (or McNabb if available). Draft for the line.
2) OBJECTIVE is to WIN IN 2012: Again, sign Pennington, but draft the QBOTF if value is there. Keep Brennan on the roster.
3) OBJECTIVE is to SHOOT for BOTH: Keep Campbell. Sign a veteran backup like Kitna. Draft for the line.
Furthermore:
If next year is uncapped, the objective should NOT be (2). We may, however, be able to build a top-notch line through FA and still draft for a QB. The Redskins are at a competitive advantage without a cap and should ransack the FA and trade markets, looking to take on the financial burdens of smaller market teams. (2) is much riskier than (1) or (3) because of the risk/reward of a rookie QB. In an uncapped year, we, as a rich team, can afford to hedge.
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As far as I know
It fell off and was re-attached in September. The man has shoulder problems and a notoriously weak arm. He also nearly won the MVP a year ago. He is not expected to retire.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
We do not need a Chad P on the roster. Please no!
I’d rather loose with a Rookie than have Pennington.
I think I might have to agree to some extent
We don’t need Chad Pennington. We either need to go in one direction or another. Jason Campbell needs to be the unquestioned starter next season. Or we pick a QB high in the draft. Either way I don’t want to see Chad Pennington as the QB for next season.
by JeanBaptiste on Jan 16, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
is it better to tutor a rook for a few years or put him out there right away?
Not a loaded question- I’m asking. I tend to think along the lines of apprenticing the rookie qb to a cerebral veteran.
Heath Shuler and Patrick Ramsey played right away
JC studied under Brunell
by sofutomygaha on Jan 16, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Best chance and cost effective
Jason Campbell, hands down
The only QBs better will stay with their current teams,
and to trade with another team typically will require draft picks which the Redskins should not give up for any reason.
to draft a QB and have them be a success in the first year requires a line, so no chance
by dr WNC on Jan 15, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If we are going to exume QBs
why not go with a HOFer like Bart Star or Joe Montana? Todd Collins has a better arm than Chad.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Jamarcus Russell has a great arm. Joe Montana had a weak arm. I have a brain cramp.
I’m perfectly serious, and you guys are starting to make me feel like some kind of a crazy person.
Chad Pennington is not calling bingo at the senior center. He’s 33. He was drafted in 2000. He is the same age as Peyton Manning. We are talking about a man in his prime rehabbing from a shoulder tear.
We are also talking about one of the smartest in the game, by all accounts a tremendous leader, and literally the most accurate passer in the NFL. He was a top 5 QB last season. That’s 2008. One year ago.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
good point
arm strength is sometimes over rated and I think it’s because it is much easier to measure. It’s very difficult to measure or evaluate a QBs intelligence and how it will impact the offense.
I’ve never followed Pennington so all I know is his name and that he’s bounced around a lot. Personally I don’t see any QB thriving behind this OL until it is rebuilt.
question
Is it that you don’t think he can come back again?
Or do you think a qb needs a long ball to win in a Shanahan offense? Elway, Plummer, and Cutler certainly do all have big arms.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah what gives?
You have a ton of qb’s up there but you didn’t list SSBlitz?!?
if they can play Fat Albert as strong safety
then why can’t SSBlitz be our QB????
I’m starting a petition, LETSSPASS!!!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
Thanks for the support guys!
I’m gonna go get started practicing with my tire swing in the back yard.
don't forget to put on your wranglers!
SpottieOttieDopaliscious
make a sweet uncle rico video and post it
I Thing snyder and shanahan both read this site religously so you’ll make that list soon
maybe mr.snyderhireme can play left tackle for you
I don’t think he’s very good, but I hear line play is overrated anyway.
Please stop this Chad Pennington non-sense. There is a reason why he is completely irrelevant around the league and no one is talking about him. 33 is old in NFL years and his arm is about to fall off. He’s already been NFL Comeback POY TWICE, do you really think that will happen 3 times?
That's a gambler's fallacy, pas493
Are we are on the verge of a wager???
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
If Chad Pennington starts for an NFL team next year, I want you to promise me you will post a fanshot of yourself wearing a “SOFUTOMYGAHA IS MY LIFE COACH” t-shirt.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
So basically you think he might start for a last-place team with a sketchy quarterback situation? You’re making my point, sir!
Admit it, I AM your life coach.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
By the way
Did you guys notice that Chase Daniel has been waved, resigned, and promoted four times already? Now he’s on the Saints 3rd qb for the playoffs. Good for him.
Don't fault a man for being thorough...
but you may have a point. I should probably go back to work.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 15, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
I thought it was cool you had so many options, its a lot to think about and non of these are totally out of the questions. Except maybe Pennington.
I liked all the options too.
Still disappointed I didn’t make the cut though. I thought I’d have at least Grossman beat out.
There is still other, and there's one vote there
Don’t give up hope
by Nobetterthenbob on Jan 15, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to regret this
Kyle Boller, Troy Smith, Brodie Croyle, David Carr, Daunte Culpepper, Joey Harrington, Colt McCoy, Brett Favre, Michael Vick, Charlie Batch, Bruce Gradkowski…
I think Campbell is the best option at this point in time.
The only reason to bring Pennington in is if we trade or lose Campbell and draft a 1st round QB.
Don’t underestimate Pennington though. True he is made of glass, but when he plays, his team wins. He is extremely accurate and rarely misses open targets, field vision and decision making are excellent. His teammates and coaches rave about him, he is super intelligent and should make an excellent QB and offensive coach in the near future.
I wouldn’t want any other pros on that list to start. I am unsure about the QBs coming out this year, they all have too many questions.
I personally don’t think that Campbell can lead us to a super bowl, but he is our best option for now.
Campbell
Virtually everybody thinks JC is mediocre, or average at best. Some think he is good enough to lead us to a good season, but few think he is a “franchise quarterback”, and many think he’s well below average. So they say build up the Oline and stick with JC this year, since there’s nobody better, as if there’s no downside to that. But with the contract situation, it’s likely a one year extension isn’t possible, so it’s commit to this guy long term or not at all. Do we really want to commit to JC long term? And if he’s here, any rookies would stagnate on the bench, delaying emergence of a good QB. I also think we could win with a rookie – think Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez. We have to fish or cut bait with JC, and cutting him loose now is much better – we might even get a lot for him.
He's a RFA
He can’t say no, it doesn’t work that way.
The only way that we could win with a rookie is if we work on our O-line and fix or running game. All three of those Qbs have a solid runner behind them; Turner, Rice and Thomas. Even so, Sanchez is a perfect example on why you don’t start a rookie QB. If they had a legit vet playing they probably would have been in the playoffs in a different spot other than the Wild Card.
by Nobetterthenbob on Jan 15, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Don, you guys are something else. What is up with this franchise qb crap. Was Joe Theisman one? How about Doug Williams ? Maybe Mark Rypien was one ?? wrong, Some of you guys talk about playing redskin football but have no idea what it is. I can tell you
one thing it had nothing to do with a franchise “stud QB”. Hey I might be able to find some old VHS tapes of some games I recorded. Maybe, I will send you one to refresh your memory.
by LETJASONPASS on Jan 16, 2010 7:08 AM EST up reply actions
You've gotta say Joe Theisman was the last one
Ryp was the guy for a while, but his hold on the job was tenuous for most of his tenure.
by sofutomygaha on Jan 16, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
sofu/ Joe Theisman ?? LOL you must be kidding as long as Joe Theismans Carreer was he only passed for more yardage than Campbell 3,618 yds passing, one time / Theismans best year 3,714 yds passing
We have a QB with a little support can pass for upper 4k in yardage easy. The perception of greatness over rules reality. Just like the perception that people had of Jason being bad over ruled that he was really better than people thought.
If enough people repeat something long enough most people will start to believe it…
by LETJASONPASS on Jan 17, 2010 6:54 AM EST up reply actions
Hmm
Let’s see JC throw those numbers up without us being blown out. Theres a reason why his yds went up so much. We were always losing and he had to throw the ball, didnt matter though. They were worthless yards and just made his stats look better.
Who voted Chad Pennington?
I want to ban that user.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
JC - long term or not at all
There are probably only two choices – JC leaves, or is re-signed to a long term contract. If the latter, he’ll be the QB for the indefinite future. If he goes, we have to go with Colt, Todd and a rookie (like Tebow or Clausen). That’s a tough decision, one for Shanahan. It’s clear we have to dramatically improve the offensive line, and if we use our first round pick on a QB, it can’t be used for a lineman. But I think we can build the O-line from free agency and later draft choices, which we cannot easily do with QB (i.e., we need a first round QB).
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