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Washington Redskins, Mike Shanahan Can Win With Jason Campbell - Interview With Mike Lombardi

Note: I know the Jason Campbell issue has been beaten up pretty good around here as well as other places, so in lieu of writing my own article about it, I give you that headline (which is also my opinion), and the interview that follows. (LJP did not contribute to this piece.)

If you watch the NFL Network, you have surely seen Mike Lombardi at work, offering his analysis and opinions on all matters (He also appears on CBS sometimes.) His NFL experience includes working with names like Bill Walsh, Bill Belichick, Marty Schottenheimer, and Mike Shanahan. He served as the head of the personnel departments in Oakland and Cleveland, and has worked for or with the San Francisco 49ers, Philadelphia Eagles, and Denver Broncos

I started hitting Mike up for questions on all things football back when I was writing columns for The Ahern Inquirer (our motto there: "Discovering the obvious.") He figured me out fast. I remember calling him once and he answered the phone saying, "Ken, you better not have a 90,000 question interview for me this time. The last one you sent over was brutal."

But he has hung in there with me and why not? He did grow up a Redskins fan after all. I had the chance to speak to him this week about the latest and greatest happenings in these parts.

Star-divide

HH: So you are a Redskins fan? Or were a Redskins fan?

ML: "I grew up a Redskins fan, but when the 49ers hired me in 1984, I began to learn how to become a fan of the team I was working for. So I was a fan of a number of teams over the years."

(Man...not sure I could ever do that. I love watching games and I even openly root for teams in games that the Skins are not involved in, but I have serious doubts that I could change my allegiance.)

HH: You worked with Mike Shanahan as a consultant in 2007 it looks like. Based on your experience working with him, do you think he can peacefully coexist in this franchise's setup? What is your impression of him as a coach?

ML: When I was fired from the Raiders, Mike brought me in to help him out in Denver. He coaches all phases of the game. He is a true head coach. While he is an offensive-minded guy, he is very effective coaching all facets of the game. He is organized, very smart, and well-prepared, and has a command of the game on both sides of the ball.

HH: Speculation is rampant around here that the Skins are going to take a quarterback in the first round. Do you think that is a good decision and do you see that as actually going down? Our offensive line could really use some help.

ML: Both areas [offensive line and quarterback] are going to have to be addressed. A high offensive line draft pick is going to affect how you play next season, while a quarterback in that spot is going to affect how you play in two seasons from now and beyond. When you draft that high, it costs a lot of resources, so you want an impact player for your organization. I do think at some point in this draft, they will bring in a quarterback to develop.

HH: Do you think Mike Shanahan will embrace our strength at tight end and run sets that utilize both of them the majority of the time? Fred Davis and Chris Cooley are both capable of shining.

ML: Both guys work with what Shanahan likes to do. They both fit in the kind of offense he and Kyle like to run. Look at Owen Daniels down in Houston, and some of the tight ends that Mike had in Denver. I think both Fred Davis and Chris Cooley contribute to the kind of versatility the Shanahans like to employ in their passing game.

HH: Can Mike Shanahan and the Redskins win with Jason Campbell?

ML: The beauty of Mike Shanahan is that he will scheme a game plan around Jason Campbell's strengths. The best way to win is to have your players and team playing to their strengths. He can win with Jason Campbell.

HH: Did we (finally) get the right man for the job?

ML: I think Mike's a winner. He'll win no matter where he is. He is adaptable and smart. Yeah, I think he will be successful there. It will take drafting and building on good players, and reconfiguring that offensive line, but yeah, I think the Redskins got a great coach.

 

When we spoke about drafting a quarterback at #4, his comment about the cost and resources sunk into a high first round pick resonated with me. When you think about how much a quarterback means to an NFL team, matching up top-5 draft pick resources to that position does start to make sense. Yet I still think we should rebuild the offensive line first. I think the resources spent on a cornerstone LT are just as well-spent.

Lombardi's tone when I asked him his impressions of Shanahan as a coach was almost reverent. He clearly has a lot of respect for the way he operates and runs his team.

Finally, the Jason Campbell issue...as I said above, we have destroyed this topic, but his comments were encouraging. The idea that a coach would come in and build a strategy around existing players/personnel...that is just crazy enough to work!

Please check out Mike Lombardi's Diner News column over at the National Football Post. They are doing some great stuff over there.

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What? No Chad Pennington?

Still think we trade down, keep JC and fill holes as best we can, while giving away no draft picks OR our core talent. On O this means keeping JC, Cooley, Davis, and DT. Others are expendable as long as we get draft picks of any kind for them.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 15, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Great article

I definitely don’t think they’ll go for a QB in the first round, but I can see them getting one any time after. With the redskins having only five picks I expect at some point that Shanahan makes a play to get a few more, even if it’s on draft day.

Let’s not forget about Samuels his chances are increasing every day on coming back IMO. They can always draft a good tackle for the right side and then move him to the left side if say Samuels comes decides back, even if it’s only for 1 year.

by skinsymets on Jan 15, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

I think there are alot of QBs in this draft

that aren’t 1st rounders, but have the potential to develop into solid starters down the road. We could definitely get our cornerstone lineman and still get a guy who could start for us next year or somewhere down the road and require much fewer resources. If we draft a QB, I think this is the best way to do it. So, all-in-all, I agree with you here.

by CarverM on Jan 15, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point on Samuels.

I think people are too quick to assume he definitely isn’t coming back.

by SSBlitz on Jan 18, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Great article

and very encouraging “The beauty of Mike Shanahan is that he will scheme a game plan around Jason Campbell’s strengths. The best way to win is to have your players and team playing to their strengths. He can win with Jason Campbell.”

I can see grabbing a QB with the 4th overall pick if he really is a franchise QB but I don’t see any of those this year. I think a common mistake is thinking the best QB available in a given year is always a franchise QB. Some years it is and some years it isn’t.

by aFan4Life on Jan 15, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

The problem I see with drafting a QB with the 4th.

Is that it’s very hit-or-miss. You might get a Matt Ryan, or you might get a Ryan Leaf. If you screw it up, you’re out a lot of money and will have to try again or shop elsewhere. At least when drafting a left tackle, if he does not play well you can move him to the right side or inside at guard and salvage the draft pick.

by SSBlitz on Jan 15, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

yep, much less risk

drafting a 4th QB overall can mean your team is awful for years, especially in this situation where it’s far from the only need.

by aFan4Life on Jan 15, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

who is a servicable player.

QB busts generally aren’t.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Jan 15, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder what the Bengals are thinking about

Andre Smith as their 1st round pick in 2009? Character issues are important.

by Jefferson1935 on Jan 15, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess you have finally been heard..

If you get tickets bro I should get some for being your #1 opponent on most of the earlier blogs.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Jan 15, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet JC would hate you and never want to be your friend.

You and Fred Smoot would probably be the best of friends though, you could talk about nothing all day long.

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't malacious, you chill out on telling people to chill out.

It was a joke man, I felt like it was pretty sarcastic once I brought up Smoot.

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

if so apologies

it just seems there is too much venom directed toward that guy.

by BayAreaBullet on Jan 15, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

it happens

when someone is annoying on purpose. there’s a cure for it, it’s called “stop being annoying”. LJP used to write rational posts…ahhh…those were the days.

by aFan4Life on Jan 15, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well when he purposely tries to annoy people by saying “he enjoys seeing me bang my head against a wall” its at a different level. Does he honestly think he affects peoples daily life here?

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Why should we supports someone that writes stupid shit like this…

skins, I am sorry buddy, you are a boring guy while I am the "life of the party’. You are the same guy at the parties back in high school talking smack about the guy (LJP) pulling all the women. (hey you should have stopped hanging out around the punch bowl and grew a pair.) 2 LOL’s to you and a belly rub

He used to be an actual football fan that made valid points, now he’s just an annoying ass troll

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man I hadn't seen that one yet

haha Touche LJP, I guess you are pretty funny after all

by skinsfan28 on Jan 15, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was hillarious

seriously the more this goes on the funnier/smarter I find him and the more bitter and negative I find the haters.

by BayAreaBullet on Jan 15, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Celebrity?

LJP has nearly reached god status on Hogs Haven. His legend will be forever stored on the server in Sugar’s Mom’s basement. I hardly come on here anymore to post about the Redskins… I just wait to see what is the next thing someone has said about LJP.

Ok people… is enough enough?

by Boo. on Jan 16, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha.

The server in Sugar’s mom’s basement…

by SSBlitz on Jan 18, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

It's funny

How this post is about an interview about the Redskins future and the haters STILL find a way to try and roast LJP!! Play on, playa…

by wildinout on Jan 18, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's gone to his head and now he's annoying.

I completely agree with you, pas. JC would file a restraining order in a second.

by SSBlitz on Jan 15, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

not mine

I am now at the point where I just skip past his posts.

by aFan4Life on Jan 15, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You wanna

buy my Campbell jersey. I wanna get rid of it in case they ship him out. Is there room for it in your shrine?

by CJHutch on Jan 17, 2010 6:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll throw one out there for you guys: Rex Grossman

Kyle Shanahan knows him well and all reports point to him having had a great season (albeit on the sidelines) for the Texans. Word out of Houston is that he “took” to Kyle and Kubiak’s offense and because they have so much invested in Schaub and Orlovsky Grossman will be available.
Reasons I like this pickup: Having a backup QB who knows the system is huge (Todd Collins/Al Saunders), and he seemed to be good enough to get the Bears into position a couple seasons.
Reasons I am tentative about it: you know…it’s Rex Grossman

by Sugar on Jan 15, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

I would love to see Rex come in and battle JC in training camp.

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, good post.

I could see justification in bringing him in.

But I wouldn’t be able to read any Redskins articles or blogs until halfway through next season.

by SSBlitz on Jan 15, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me...

while I barf everyhwere… that is awful to think about

by mmford10 on Jan 17, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

they haven't announced anything like that

pas just posted that the 49ers and Broncos are playing in London for now

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Jan 15, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone pray for it not to happen

by pas493 on Jan 15, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude...

I want to go to London. It would not be a home game for us. It would be an away game (really the only other possibility.)

by Sugar on Jan 15, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

how do they determine

whether or not it would be a home or away game for a certain team?

SpottieOttieDopaliscious

by Rekka on Jan 15, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

great question

it SHOULD be that teams that don’t sell out all their home games should be automatically home teams overseas. just my two cents

but i am not sure how they determine it.
if we played JAX, the word on the street is that we would be the away team.

funny thing is if they had these teams that can’t sell out their home stadiums as the home team in London, the fans in Detroit and Jacksonville, etc. would actually get to see the game on TV. if the game was in JAX or Detroit, they probably wouldn’t.

by Sugar on Jan 15, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t care where the hell you want to go. You can go to London any time you want its not going any where. I just don’t want my football team flying over an ocean and playing on shitty field conditions, it throws your whole season out of whack.

How many Redskins fans can realitstically afford to go to London?

by pas493 on Jan 17, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice Interview Sugar, a different perspective.

 I doubt Coach Shan knows what he wants to do right now. I am sure he will study all of JC’s game tapes, and with Kyle and a few experts opinions they will make a decision on Campbells future here between now and late Febuary. At this time, I agree none of the QBs in the draft look like lockdown aces. Between the Senior Bowl, the Blue-Gray game, the combines and private workouts, a true stud may emerge in Shans eyes.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I think if 1 of those top 3 defensive players fall into our lap, we should take him. If not, I think we would be best served by trading down and accumulating draft picks. keep in mind quite a few teams will be looking for a QB, either Campbell or our pick, so a trade looks imminent. I am confident we will get our starting LT with either that trade or our 2nd pick.

by johnnydee83 on Jan 15, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

what about levfevour ?

i was watching a game with central michigin andlee corso and trent dilfer made comments that levfevour just as good if not better then tim tebow now why not take a chance on this kid if he is still around in the later rounds ..

by lohaus#54 on Jan 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions  

I am a HUGE LeFevour guy

dude can play and I would love to see him get molded by Shanahan. I think LeFevour will be a player in the league.

by Sugar on Jan 15, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I only saw him when CM played Troy

Can’t say he really impressed me either way.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 16, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

drafting with #4

I will never say to pick a qb this early for the fact that it seems like 80% of the time it will be a bust and thats the last thing use skins fans need. so i say either trade down and get maybe a late first and a second since we need more picks then we currently have or we grab the top OL and finally address the big problem that we have been neglecting for the past couple seasons. I hope Allen nows what he is doing and danny boy can sit back and trust his gm for once. but with danny we will never know..

by MaddogFell on Jan 16, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

Winning with Plummer

I am not a fan of Shanahan and didn’t like the hire. That said, JC is not going to be his problem. Shanahan’s teams went to 3 playoffs (I think) with Jake Plummer as QB. The only thing Plummer could do effectively is the play action bootleg. JC can run that and a number of other things, especially if he has more than a quarter second to set his feet unlike this season.

by flounder2 on Jan 16, 2010 6:26 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta love Vinny.

"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."

by Kevin Ewoldt on Jan 18, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Offensive Line

The Offensive Line needs to be totally overhauled, so that Jason Campbell can makes plays down field. The OL sucks, needs major improvement this off season.

by JennRoze on Jan 17, 2010 12:27 AM EST reply actions  

Things have fallen apart...

with Josh McDaniels and Brandon Marshall. Someone mentioned earlier about “knowing the system”. Why not make a play for Marshall? His major beef with the Broncos was that he wasn’t getting paid enough for his 100 reception a year average (or close to it). Now wouldn’t he be a better fit than Randel El? Trade Portis and Randel El to Denver for Marshall and a late draft pick. Make your first three picks on offensive lineman, and your last two on an outside left OLB, and maybe a FS or another CB (to replace Carlos Rogers, aka “Toast” because he always gets burned…)

And as much as I hate to say it, we should maybe consider trading Cooley. Fred Davis earned the right to be on the field, and there just aren’t enough footballs to go around for the two of them. Cooley’s worth at least a second or third round pick.

by J.Cash on Jan 17, 2010 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Brandon Marshall will never be a skin

since he was going to be cut the year that the coach got fired.

by confederate_gent on Jan 17, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

that trade

is unrealistic. We would have to give them a high round pick just to take Portis and ARE. Besides, WR is the least of our worries. We don’t need to put any focus on the position this offseason.

Also, I’d hold off on the “trade Cooley” talk. And I definitely I would not deal him for a 2nd round pick. Lets see, you have a Pro Bowler, in his prime, and you want to trade him for what’s behind door number 2, then have a guy who played good for half a season take over his job. Davis showed a TON of promise this year. But he also showed some drops, not to mention the propensity to leave his feet while running downfield, which is always a recipe for disaster. No, I say keep your known known quantity (especially when that guy is the most popular player on the team and a Pro Bowler in his prime). Now, if a team want to give us a young, STARTING CALIBER offensive tackle, then you look at a trade. Other than that, I say keep Cooley and see how the the Shanahans incorporate the league’s best TE combination into their gameplan.

by CJHutch on Jan 17, 2010 6:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I love the way that sounds

“league’s best TE combination”…
I’ve always been a big fan of the single-back formation because it allows for your two TE’s to either block or go out for passes. Both players are big targets that can ball and knock someone’s head off. Add them to a prototypical Shanahan smash-mouth running attack and our 3rd down conversion and red zone oppurtunities will be sexy…

by wildinout on Jan 18, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear you

But coming off that injury, we don’t know what “Cooley” will show up. It’s kinda hard to pass up on Davis’ speed over Cooley’s hands when he showed much improvement.

by J.Cash on Jan 19, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no one in the vicinity of Colorado who wants
Trade Portis and Randel El to Denver for Marshall and a late draft pic

to see Clinton Portis and/or ARE in a Denver uniform, much less give up a draft pick along with Marshall. Have you relapsed Mr. Cash?

Also, the beauty of keeping both Cooley and Davis is that it will be easy for us to create mismatches for the defense to handle. I’m sure the Shanny’s could come up with all kinds of scary ways to use them both. Then, of course, there is always the injury factor. If one goes down, you still have the other plus Yoder.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 17, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey...

there’s no “relapse”. Marshall’s rif is that he’s a “head case”. The next T.O. But I could care less what you think of the guy, he produces. Now, McDaniels is facing the reality that no one wants to play for him. So everyone in Denver wants HIM out of town, and could probably care less who they aquired right now.

I know it’s not a probable trade, but all I’m saying is why not go after Marshall and get rid of some dead weight?

by J.Cash on Jan 19, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with the dead weight reduction

just don’t think anyone is buying it. And, Brandon Marshall is a net negative compared to what we already have. If someone were to give us something for CP and/or anyone else we can get rid of, we have plenty of other issues more important than WR,.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

There might be enough room for the both of them if they would give Fred Davis as much playing time as they do Chris Cooley.

by JennRoze on Jan 17, 2010 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Referred to as a 2 TE set.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 17, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Devil's Advocate.

Matt McGuire makes a very convincing case for Jimmy Clausen here:
http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php
Hard not to appreciate the company he’s being compared to.

by SSBlitz on Jan 18, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

Isn't McGuire an Irish name?

I think they are in cahoots.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

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