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Pour Some Sugar On Me - Culture of Mediocrity Thrives on Snyder's Watch

Snyder and Cerrato have been the common denominators for the last decade or so of mediocrity. (Are their hands in each other's back pockets?)

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Snyder and Cerrato have been the common denominators for the last decade or so of mediocrity. (Are their hands in each other's back pockets?)

 

While the sentiment is not lost on me, it is simply unrealistic to "Blow it up" in today's NFL after Week 3. First of all, when people want to blow it up and collect draft picks, WE are the ones they call since WE are the ones who have placed such a low premium on draft picks in recent years. Secondly, the Washington Redskins are currently worth LESS than the sum of all their parts. To think we would net any serious haul of draft picks or compensation in deals to ship out certain players on our roster is foolish. This goes back to the question we have asked ourselves so many times after disappointing seasons when it came time to determine who was a "core Redskin" worth keeping at all costs: "Yeah...but, the core of what?" More on this further down. Additionally, the people currently making the decisions in our front office would be left to "Blow it up" and rebuild--who among us is brimming with confidence in that crew?

Finally, despite being 1-2 on the heels of an HISTORIC loss to the Detroit Lions, one senses it just can't get much worse. I mean, short of Snyder announcing a 10-year contract extension for Vinny Cerrato, I am about as sick as I could be over this team. But the bad news is that it can get worse...a LOT worse. And we would be locking in that doomsday scenario by throwing in the towel in Week 3. Might as well see what kind of "character-building" we can do in the next three months. (my first attempt at calling out Snyder on this blog after the jump)

Star-divide

Where we are now is smack dab in the middle of EXACTLY where we have been for the last decade: a thriving culture of mediocrity and underachievement. Our (the fans) expectations for this team have been perennially overstated, while our actual chances of transforming into a solid squad capable of developing into a contender have been perennially squandered. Last week I asked, "Who are the Washington Redskins?" This week our answer is crystal clear: "The team that just lost to the 0-for-19 Detroit Lions." When I mentioned above that we have had occasion to ponder who merits being a "core Redskin" through the years, the question that pops up in my mind automatically was/is always, "The core of what?" Besides that playoff run after Sean Taylor's death, there has been nothing "special" to point to as the core of this team.

In fact, what truly lies at the core of this team--Dan Snyder--is better cut out and removed than saved. But that too, is unrealistic. I can't tell you how much the recent stories of the ticket scandal bothered me. The word out of Snyder's office was that he was unaware that this was happening. Let me tell you how that works: Snyder has created a labyrinth of businesses and entities that enable him to claim he is far removed from certain operational procedures that would be toxic if they could touch him. Plausible deniability is the name of the game. For a man who has made a name in this league for micro-managing and inserting himself into the nooks and crannies of his business, it is at least difficult to believe he would not know something like that was going on. Believe what you want. But answer me this Mr. Snyder:

WHAT CONCOCTED ENTITIES STAND BETWEEN YOU AND THE DECADE OF INSTABILITY, MEDIOCRITY, MISMANAGED RESOURCES, LACK OF DIRECTION, AND OVERALL UNDERACHIEVEMENT?

These have been the hallmark of your tenure, sir. These are irrefutable. And it makes me sick.

I get that players have to make plays. Not getting in on 4th and goal yesterday was on the players. Giving up the offsides penalty to let the Lions out of their end zone on the next down is on the players. And that is naming but two of the most recent examples of players not making plays.

Not for a second do I believe that Daniel Snyder wants to lose. I will even go so far as to give him credit for showing restraint in free agency once or twice in the last five years (though one can argue the subtle difference between "We have chosen not to dabble in free agency" and "We have no salary cap room to sign even our own players.")

The most troubling part is that all I have done is joined the chorus of a million people saying the same thing. A million voices with no actual say or vote in the matter. And then it hits me...Viva La Revolucion!

The Revolution

If history has taught us anything, it is that when a large, brave group of like-minded, intelligent people are ignored and marginalized by the power or powers that be, what results is revolution. Now, we aren't storming the gates of FedEx or Redskins Park. And I am not suggesting staying away from FedEx as the primary means of prosecuting our Revolution. On the contrary, we will wage our war from within. We must never stop supporting our team, its players and coaches, our fellow fans and of course the First Ladies of football themselves, the Redskins cheerleaders.

So what in the hell is this Revolution going to do and what could it accomplish? Stay tuned to find out. This thing is coming complete with its own logo, mission statement and HQ. I expect the battle ahead to be a long, protracted affair that at times seems unwinnable. Our short-term objective: to win over the hearts and minds of as many Redskins fans as possible, by proving that we are not trying to subvert our own team or advance the cause of negativity. Rather, The Revolution will stand as a symbol for every true fan ready to dig harder and deeper into the ground that we believe is ours...Should the Redskins become a winner and contender, it will be BECAUSE of the positive energy and vibe that The Revolution puts out.

 

Ten Yard Fight - 10 Chances to Make One Good Point

1) I took a lot of heat--mostly from Steelers fans--when I picked the Bengals to make the playoffs out of the AFC. I even picked them before I saw any episodes of HBOs' Hard Knocks. I have never watched that show before due to the multiple seasons that featured the Cowgirls but I was very impressed with Marvin Lewis and what they were doing this preseason. I am sure they can cut and edit that show a million ways to make a team look better, but I thought the Bengals made a good showing. Beating the Steelers at home for the first time since 2001 was also a great showing.

2) Both teams that were in the Super Bowl last year are 1-2...same as YOUR Washington Redskins. I simply must believe that expectations were higher in both of those cities than here. Check that. Expectations belonged higher there than here.

3) The Rams put up almost 100 more yards on the Packers than they did on the Redskins. This would be a way better point if our defense had not just given up 381 total yards to the Lions.

4) The team that couldn't step out of one pile of crap without stepping into another heaping, steaming pile of crap this offseason is 3-0. I speak of the Denver Broncos of course. Nothing went right this summer and then all of a sudden Brandon Stokley catches a tipped pass and takes it to the house with next to no time remaining against the Bengals and they are 3-0. They remind me of the Indians from the movie Major League and the way the Cleveland fans spent all spring training saying things like, "These guys suck." Then a few breaks go their way and Josh McDaniels looks like he knows what he is doing.

5) Losing Chad Pennington for the season might not hurt the Dolphins as much as you would think (if you thought it would at all.) I believe in his leadership and accuracy. But that offense is not built on his arm. Between Chad Henne, Pat White and Ronnie Brown, they have built enough depth at the quarterback spot to keep doing what they do. The big 3rd down throws from Pennington will be sorely missed, but they really like Henne down there. Pennington earned every second he got but he was always on borrowed time.

6) All preseason long I told you how much I liked Brandon Coutu, the kicker in Seattle who has essentially battled Olindo Mare for the kicking job for over a year. They went with the veteran incumbent and now he is strugg-a-ling. Where have I heard this story before? It is refreshing to see another team besides the Redskins struggle at the kicking spot. Everyone has to decide for themselves if the game hinged on those kicks but if you ask me, I think Mare lost them that game.

7) Why should this be so hard to say? The Ravens are freakishly good right now. MVP through week 3: Ozzie Newsome, their GM.

8) Memo to Eric Mangini: Seriously, with your ongoing quarterback battles? I can't remember a less compelling mystery. It's like expecting everyone to hold their breath and wait for you to announce what kind of dump you just took. "It was a squealer people...a squealer." Just put Josh Cribbs behind center and be done with it.

9) As we were watching the scores come rolling across the screen on Sunday, the least surprising was the Patriots taking care of business against the Falcons. Last year the Pats sat out of the playoffs despite an 11-5 record. Now that the Jets are destroying everything in their path, Tom Brady and company know that they have little room for error again this year.

10) Despite Favre pulling off his miracle magic yet again, I was left more impressed by what the 49ers did than what the Vikings did. They held Adrian Peterson in check and until the last drive, they had Brett Favre under wraps as well. If one play is going to define that game for me I will let it be the downfield pass Favre threw to Bernard Berrian. Berrian backtracks a little to get some more ground and Favre came barrelling down the field to block Patrick Willis. I think that the reason Favre is able to pull off so many miracle moments in games is because teammates are always going to play to the last second for him. Sure, he has the talent to pull off the impossible, but when people see a 40 year old man run down the middle of the field and sell out on a block of one of the toughest players in the league (I love Willis) you know that when the chips are down, he is going to get everything every man has until the echo of the last whistle.

Give Me the Numbers, STAT!

Oh man...back to reality. I have been spending a lot of time on the defensive side of the ball in recent weeks. Let's look at the position that just might be getting unfairly blamed right now: the quarterback.

Jason Campbell is 9th in the league in total passing yards with 793, 9th in the league in QB rating at 92.6, and he is 5th in the league in completion percentage with a 67.6% rate. He sits just on the fringe of the top ten in total attempts. I see this kind of production and I just don't see Jason Campbell as anywhere close to our problem. In fact, I know we can all think of plays where either the line or a receiver let him down in a crucial situation. He is never going to be confused with Joe Montana, but he has played well enough for us to win games. This team is simply not equipped to overcome costly mistakes by anyone at any position. So JC is forced to play perfect ball just so we can have a chance to win.

Somebody asked me on Sunday if I thought we would be winning these games if we had an MVP quarterback. I answered, "Of course we would. Having an MVP quarterback implies near perfect decision-making at all times and sets up the team for success in other facets of the game." Any team that could upgrade to an MVP quarterback would be better. We need to elevate the play around Jason Campbell, because there is no MVP quarterback on our bench. But the one we have is capable of winning games for us if everyone does their job around him.

Just as the team has to do some serious soul-searching to figure out what direction they take from here on out, we need to do the same. I know I don't want to be "Bag-on-my-head Guy", but for some people, that is where they are. I'll be cheering just as loud as ever when the defense is on the field this week at FedEx. I just think it is more fun to support my team that way. But make no mistake...

The Revolution begins today.

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I feel for you guys

As a Giants fan I would like to thank Mr Snyder for not making the Redskins competetive whilst he has been owner.

On the other hand I do feel for you fans as it must be soul destroying to watch your team year on year look like they are just going through the motions.

Do you think the players have more loyalty to Snyder as he pays the money, especially the big contract FA signings, knowing that the coaches cannot cut them unless they really stink the place up (B Lloyd and Adam A for example).

by G Fan in England on Sep 29, 2009 6:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe

you are correct with some of these guys and their contracts. They know they could never make the money they are making anywhere else on the planet and Snyder tries to be “chummy” with his big expensive toys because it makes him feel like more of a man to hang with his “warriors.”

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a giants fan you are also at the wrong website !!

The Rod has spoken

by Rodskin on Sep 29, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good question

I wish I knew the answer. My guess is that everyone knows that snyder isn’t going anywhere. If he were to blow up the front office, I think that would automatically give an “aww s**t” vibe that guys would know a real GM is coming. To me, the first move is fire cerrato and hire somebody to run this organization correctly.

by monk81 on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hail to the redskins

ive been a skins fan almost 30 years and no loss hurted more than last weeks game against the lions. if changes need to be made in the coaching area or player area,its should be done soon,i dont want to feel like this again.

by christoflex on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On the bright side

We still have Tampa Bay and Carolina who are both winless next on our schedule. Can it get worse? Yes, we could lose to 3 winless teams in a row and then be faced with playing the Eagles. That would be pretty damn bad.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh and Kansas City

That’s 3 winless teams coming up. So conceivably we could give 4 teams their first win. That would be horrendous.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carolina looked

pretty darn good against the ’girls last night – although I only watched the first half. Makes me a bit uneasy.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Sep 29, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A team that only puts up 7 points against a team that gave up 52 points in their first two games.

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carolina

was in the game until the last 4 minutes: 13-7, but then their quarterback threw an interception for a TD.

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we have

thus far faced 3 teams that did not have a win when we played them, and we have yet to put a complete game together. I don’t look at any of the upcoming games as easy.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No not easy

but what a great start to the season instead of the top tier teams

by dr WNC on Sep 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

truthfully

I’m not sure if I agree with that. This may sound crazy, but I have a feeling we will do better against the better teams. It’s no secret that we historically play down to our opponents. I think the players get up for the good teams moreso than the bad teams. Again, a result of poor leadership.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The special teams

have been playing good. Now if the defense could pickup where they were last year. Derrick Brooks was still a free agent on the 16th and is not showing up on NFL players.
Get him an put Orakpo on defensive end.

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 29, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good idea but

Dallas signed Brooks.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure

You aren’t thinking of Keith Brooking are you? Last time I checked Derrick Brooks was still a free agent. But either way, I don’t see us signing him so it doesn’t make a huge difference anyway.

by bigrm18 on Sep 30, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're right

Yeah, I got the 2 confused. Either way Brooks is ancient for the NFL.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Viva la Revolution

As Reagen almost said in a movie, “Let’s go out there and win one for Les Miserables.” I’ll bring the guillotine if someone will bring beer and snacks!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Sep 29, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I will support any revolution at this point...

but I don’t get what spending money in the shrine to Snyder’s suck fest is going to accomplish anymore. He has shown year in and year out that he doesn’t give a shit about his fans. He has turned the Redskins from a team of class into pure shame. He has ruined the team my grandparents, my parents and I grew up loving. (My grandfather and my father used to go to Griffith Stadium to watch a class act team.)

The last straw has long since been burned.

I really do understand supporting ‘the team’ but what is ‘the team’ anymore?
It is a Frankinsteinesque creature concocted out of the bowls of Vinny and Danny, except at least Frankinstein was sort of scary.

Snyder is to blame and the only thing Snyder understands is money. I am either not going anymore (more likely) or I am going to wear a bag on my head with slogan ‘Viva Snyder’s shame fest!’

I really hope I am proven wrong, but we will never have a hope in hell while Snyder is around.

by poopo on Sep 29, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fans Booing

Amidst the talk of drafting an entire new team and starting a revolution, I want to be clear to the fans of HogsHaven. I will be at the game this Sunday in full Darrell Green jersey attire. I will place a Redskins hat upon my head. I will have no voice in my Monday meetings due to cheering in excess for three straight hours. I will NOT boo my team. Not even the loss to Detroit will disappoint me as much as witnessing my team take the field Sunday to the roar of booing in the stands, as has been predicted. If this happens, I will no longer plead for drafting any O line or D line, but I will be pleading for drafting new fans.

by RFKate28 on Sep 29, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let me ask this question?

is someone more of a fan for continuning to support and pay money to Snyder or is someone more of a fan by not supporting Snyder by not going to the game and spending money?

Let me also say that I don’t agree with booing though….

Last question RFKate28, do you like what Snyder has turned our beloved Redskins into?

by poopo on Sep 29, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand going to the game as you’ve already paid for the tickets.

However, if you buy one thing at that game: a beer, a hot dog, a hamburger, a water…if you use the ATM machine even you have failed Redskins nation.

by snowburnt on Sep 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what happens to the people that work there?

the hot dog vendors? the bartenders etc?

I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....

by Rekka on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snyder loves you!

he can stink up the joint and make hundreds of millions off of your blindness!!!!! Go ahead and let him get rich and turn our favorite team into the Cubs!!!!!! Our team is a laughing stock!!! We all love the Skins, but we will not take a tyrant who turns all of into buffoons lightly as you seem to do!

My name came up on the waiting list AND I DECLINED!!!!!! I will not line his greedy, apathetic to the fans imbecile!!!!

by brettpedigo on Sep 29, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that’s alright. He doesn’t need individuals to buy season tickets. He has a line of brokers ready to buy them up and sell them on the secondary market.

by killianskid34 on Sep 30, 2009 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sooooo sad.

I’m telling you, people will eventually stop going. maybe it will take Armageddon, but PLEASE STOP GOING UNDER DANNY BOY!!!!

by brettpedigo on Sep 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not

I, too, am frustrated every week at the poor performances on the field. However, I don’t think booing the team is going to fix the problem. I don’t buy food at the stadium. I don’t buy paraphernalia at the kiosks in the stadium. I’m not naive enough to believe that my individual stance is going to make the difference and grab Snyder’s attention.
I do, however, believe that a team getting cheered for three hours is going to play better than a team getting booed for three hours. We, the fans, are part of what gives those players motivation. Yes, money, fame, fortune all play major roles. But we can’t deny our responsibility either.

by RFKate28 on Sep 29, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agree

I agree with your point. I am not booer. I will continue to cheer my team.
What would produce better results: booing your team after the first series (which has happened) or cheering your team for 4 quarters? I guarantee that cheering gets it done every time.
I do believe that you can still be a true fan and not go to games and not spend money. This is a tough time to draw the line at spending money on the team. That may be the only way to get it through to snyder.

by monk81 on Sep 29, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Revolution?

What exactly are people supposed to do during this revolution?

It was a good post but how do you make an owner change?

Whatever problems exist at HC and QB are minor compared to the problems higher up so changes lower down will only have a minor effect. Maybe changes at HC and/or QB will help the team rise to mediocrity but I don’t want mediocrity, I want a yearly contender like we were in the 1980s.

Like so many people here, I was a fan of the team as a youth, I was a fan during the glory years, I’ve been a fan during these miserable Snyder years and I’ll always be a fan but I’m also not going to lower my hopes for the team to be satisfied with perrennial mediocrity.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 29, 2009 9:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You never know what you can do until you stand up and try

The Revolution is going to be about figuring out if and how we can actually impact this franchise. Maybe we will find that there is simply no getting through to Dan Snyder regardless of how hard we try. But we are going to try.

by Sugar on Sep 29, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

does anyone

know his address? Can we picket out front of his house? Maybe a bunch of signs with Kevin’s “upset Indian” logo out front of his mansion would make the news and embarrass the hell out of him.

Of course, I have the BEST IDEA. Unfortunately it would be near impossible to pull off. But, imagine if we could get people to coordinate the colors of their shirts/jerseys on Sunday so that, from an aerial view, it spelled out SELL THE TEAM!. You KNOW that would get national play. Of course, he would probably threaten everyone in the stadium with legal action.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn’t have a house. He flies around in Redskins-1 in the upper reaches of the stratosphere and only comes down for Skins games, Scientology meetings, and to take Mark Sanchez out to dinner.

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PERFECT!!!

does anyone have a surface to air missile?

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually thats what Ahmadinejad is up to in Iran right now.

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

He lives on river road. I’ve driven by it many times. You can see the front guest house from the road, but he built a large berm to keep people from seeing the main house. Go to wikimapia and look up and down river road and it is identified as the Redskin Owner’s house.

by monk81 on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its just a decoy Hutch don't fall for it

Keep trying to get enriched uranium from Vladimir the former Soviet Scientist

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I am

I’ve got 3 possibilities on Craigslist, and I’m awaiting a seller’s response on Ebay.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

watch what you say...

homeland security is watching!

by grandpa grouse on Sep 29, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you kiddin

me? You think the government wouldn’t like to see Snyder outta here? The best way to pick up the mood in DC is for the Redskins to win. Plus, as much time as Congress is wasting taking on this healthcare bill, they need something to watch around here. I’m sure they’d rather see good football than bad.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you gotta point there...

but if you put a hat on no one will notice.

by grandpa grouse on Sep 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+100

You’re damn right we’re going to try! If nothing else embarassing Daniel Snyder on a National Stage will make me feel better about the whole thing.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

count me in

there’s nothing to lose.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you for talking about the real issue: Snyder

Snyder.Snyder.
Snyder.

So many media outlets are spending too much time talking about Zorn or the players.

Every word on everyone’s lips should be Snyder. He should be ashamed to show his face anywhere within a 300 mile radius of DC.

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Snyder

Players play the game
Snyder and his ownership have hurt the Redskins in building a team.
The players play the game, and the Redskins lost to Detriot not because of Snyders doings the last 10 years but the failure to properly game plan, properly coach and players to properly execute.

Issues aside, the best thing to do would be to blow up the entire organzation however that will not happen so the next best thing to do is nothing. Continue on and see if this group can come together as a team, adding drafted players for the next 2 or 3 years.

by dr WNC on Sep 29, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What we can do

Is tarnish Snyder’s name, drag it through the mud, stomp on it, beat it to a pulp and then stomp on it some more until we’ve completely and totally embarassed and demoralized the evil little man. Perhaps then he’ll sell the team, but even if he doesn’t it will be fun. I pay too much money for my Redskins tickets not to express myself in the stadium. Get your “Sell the Team” shirts now.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wrong
the Redskins lost to Detriot not because of Snyders doings the last 10 years…

Snyder bears as much responsibility as anyone for that loss, for this season, for last season, and for every season.

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snyder is 100% the problem

Shottenheimer was well on his way to bringing fire and passion back to the Redskins when Snyder fired him. Yes, Snyder is 100% responsible for the state of the organization today.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

the State of the organization is 100% Snyder
the loss to Detriot, the players did not perform consistently on the field to win and the coaches did not coach to win

by dr WNC on Sep 29, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Amen, brother. There are too many people blaming Zorn for everything. To me, while he is clearly over his head as far as being head coach, he is not solely to blame. I blame Snyder for putting in this position that he never should have been in in the first place. He was hired as an OC, and after no self-respecting coach wanted the job, Snyder had no choice but to hire him as HC.

by killianskid34 on Sep 30, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sad

I’d forgotten that he went from being QB coach to HC in 1 leap. The fact that Snyder couldn’t convince any of the proven HC’s to come here says a lot but what can you expect after the way he treated Schottenhiemer?

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snyder's an idiot. He hired an OC (Zorn) before a HC

Does Snyder understand how football works? Does he acknowledge the world beyond Landover, Maryland?
what kind of HC doesn’t want to pick his own offensive coordinator?

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

that was yet another idiotic Snyder move.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Redskins will get better

this week’s power rankings will probably dump them near the bottom 5. I’d be surprised if they weren’t a mid-pack (15-16 of 32) team by season end. Unfortunately I think the NFC bEast is too loaded this year, it will be tough to make a playoff run.

You play to win the game!

by Simms-McConkey on Sep 29, 2009 10:52 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

On the bright side..

maybe we will get some wins from being under-estimated by other teams!! ;)

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on Sep 29, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm waiting with bated breath

for the details of this revolution. I’ve been just as hesitant to join everyone in blasting Snyder, cause I’d rather focus on what’s going on on the field, but it’s impossible to ignore how he has taken our team and ripped its heart out.

I was listening to Snyder’s radio station yesterday and Kevin Sheehan was even talking about how after he fired Spurrier the fanbase was at a tipping point. People were completely fed up 4 years ago, and somehow Snyder convinced Gibbs to come back. Some of us suspended judgement thinking things had changed. There are very few options for how he can salvage this mess going forward.

PS: Sorry I bailed on the Hard Times party Sugar. That’s what I get for hanging out with a Ravens fan

by Boo. on Sep 29, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All good dude...

Their NFL ticket was not available for some unknown reason so I completely understood. We will be careful not to plan another event there until we have confirmation of them having the Ticket.

by Sugar on Sep 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also stopped being friends with the Ravens fan

I figured that would be the easier solution anyway, and I don’t want to be reminded that we are the far inferior team in MD any longer.

by Boo. on Sep 29, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Singletary

We should have picked up Singletary when we had the chance. He’ll bench any player on the field if the effort isn’t there regardless of how much money they are making. Money and effort are mutually exclusive and should not factor into gameday decisions.

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Singletary, Rex Ryan, Harbaugh...

These are winning coaches, and they will be winning coaches for a long time.

Shanahan doesn’t do it for me. Chucky, perhaps, but he didn’t do much after Dungy’s stamp wore off that team.

by Boo. on Sep 29, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harbaugh

is largely successful b/c he was given a staff with two experienced, proven coordinators. Cam Cameron is running that offense.

For Snyder to think Zorn could be a first time head coach & play caller without having a veteran on his staff was sheer idiocy.

Par for the course with Snyder’s Redskins.

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well
For Snyder to think Zorn could be a first time head coach & play caller without having a veteran on his staff was sheer idiocy.

That was the point of Snyder convincing Blache to stay unretired. At the time, I didn’t mind having Zorn as our offensive coordinator because I always liked Seattle’s offense and I thought he would be able to replicate that offense here. However, we can all say that Zorn sucks now after we’ve seen the past few weeks (including the last 8 games of last year) but when we were 6-2 last year everyone was saying that Snyder has turned the corner for hiring Zorn (and not a big name, high priced coach), and Zorn was an offensive genius and a great head coach.

Hindsight can be a b*tch!

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

don't generalize opinions

I was against promoting Zorn to HC, period. Let alone without a veteran offensive coach to help him out.

So were a lot of other Skins fans.

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take your own advice

Exactly how am I generalizing opinions when I constantly said “I” in my comment?

Not once did I say that you felt this way or felt that way, and more importantly I never even mentioned you at all in my comment, so why are you acting as if I put words in your mouth?

When I did generalize opinions as you say was when were 6-2 and everybody was loving Zorn as our head coach. How many fans can you honestly say didn’t like Zorn when we were 6-2?

You said:

For Snyder to think Zorn could be a first time head coach & play caller without having a veteran on his staff was sheer idiocy.

You never said that you were against promoting Zorn to HC, you basically said that it was stupid for Snyder to think that Zorn could be a HC and OC, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that you were against Zorn being a HC. You could have wanted Zorn to be the HC, but not the OC for all I know. I can only reply to what you type.

You also never said veteran offensive coach. You just said “a veteran on his staff” and last time I checked Blache was a veteran coach correct?

Instead of being so defensive, you could use that energy to be more clear and precise in your comments and we wouldn’t have this confusion in the first place.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Harbaugh

is largely successful b/c he was given a staff with two experienced, proven coordinators. Cam Cameron is running that offense.

For Snyder to think Zorn could be a first time head coach & play caller without having a veteran offensive coach on his staff was sheer idiocy.

I was against promoting someone as inexperienced as Zorn to HC, and I was especially against doing so without giving him a veteran to lean on.

A poorly constructed offensive staff, par for the course with Snyder’s Redskins, where almost nothing is well planned.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never said

That I disagreed with what you or that you were wrong, I was only replying to what you said in your initial comment.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so I guess we agree.

But one of my points is that it’s not hindsight for me to say that Zorn was a bad HC hire, or that he wasn’t given the right staff.

A lot of fans knew this had a high likelihood of happening.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just out of curiosity

Who did you want as HC after Gibbs abruptly retired?

by VA_Skin on Oct 1, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At the time I wanted Gregg Williams

but then I read today that he and Snyder basically hated each other.

I would have taken a veteran retread for a couple years until something better came along.

Zorn was one of the worst possible choices. You don’t hire an OC before a HC, then promote him and not give him a veteran support system.

Virtually any retread coach is better than that plan.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Oct 1, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blache? look at the defense

I can see that Blache was being relied on to provide veteran coaching and look what he’s done to the defense…we were 4th overall last year.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harbough

also has a brilliant GM in Ozzie Newsome. Ozzie drafts and signs players that play for the coaches. Not big-time free agents. That is a major factor in their franchise. I won’t let this point go!

by monk81 on Sep 29, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Newsome is one of the best GMs in the NFL

hands down.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely

Their first draft included John Ogden and Ray Lewis both on their way to Canton. They pick Ed Reed at #20 and he’s well on the way to Canton also. It would be nice to have GM like that.

by jamie21224 on Sep 29, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1,000,000

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you can consider

Vinny as a GM. What is his title again Head of All Football Operations. But your right pas493 it would definitely be nice to have a REAL GM.

by jamie21224 on Sep 29, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, a GOOD gm

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With that being said

who’s available? I know Scott Pioli went to Kansas City so he’s not available. Would you guys be open to
bringing back Charley Casserly? I don’t think that will happen but he did good job before.

by jamie21224 on Sep 29, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know the first thing about the GM job market

I do know we still have a guy pretty high up in our front office who came over from Chicago a couple years back. Young guy, highly regarded. The WaPo wrote about him once.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

too late

if he’s been here a couple years already, he’s tainted.

by CJHutch on Sep 30, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why your Revolution Sucks

I can proudly, I guess for a lack of a better word, say that I have been a Redskins fan since I was a little kid. I am now entering my 30’s and I have seen this franchise fall into utter despair of the last 10 years. Week in and week out I’m shown the same underachieving, and more importantly, mediocre,over payed, and over-hyped players on this pathetic team roster.
This team lacks depth, leadership, and a go to guy to pick the team up when things are on the line.
Your revolution is anything but, all you are doing is drinking the same kool-aid that all Redskins fans are guilty of drinking for the past ten years. It is as much our fault as anyone else. We constantly argue and hope and dream for the next big free agent to be signed by Snyder. We always search for the coach who we think is going to lead this team over the hump.
Reality check, the great coaches don’t want to coach here because the talent level sucks…..there is absolutely no one on the roster who stands out whatsoever. Plus, the Giants fan got it right, the high priced free agents run this team because they are Snyder’s darlings and can get away with playing poorly as soon as they sign the dotted line to a bloated contract they don’t deserve.
Any coach who comes to this team is going to be undermined by over-payed, mediocre, not as talented as they think they are divas….for goodness sakes, Clinton Portis and LeVar Arrington, two of our best players in recent years, wouldn’t even stand in line for Joe freakin Gibbs, a man who won 3 super bowls.
Bottom line…..look forward to even more horrible years as this roster and team keeps getting older and the depth gets even more thin because that’s what’s going to happen. No draft pick/horrible draft picks equals horrible teams.
The only way to kill Snyder is through his wallet, sadly, seats at the stadium are payed for until forever, it doesn’t matter if no one shows up because the stadium is always sold out. But hopefully time catches up to this man, people should boycott him, they should stop filling his pockets by buying the most expensive ticket in sports to be constantly disappointed week in and week out, they should stop buying his merchandise, they should stop listening to his radio stations, someone within the organization should stand up to this man, enough is enough.

by query8779 on Sep 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why you don't play a professional sport

A quality coach or player or even GM would want to come to a situation like that because it’s a fixer upper. Who wouldn’t want to be THE GUY that fixed everything. That took a team from none to one.

I’d much rather be the guy taking over from Spurrier or Zorn than the guy taking over from Cowher or Bellichek. Why? Number one you have lowered expectations. Number two it’s your team. Nothing else has worked and they’re counting on you to fix it.

It’s the hero spirit and the competitive spirit that they need to bring here.

You probably refuse to vote too, right?

by snowburnt on Sep 29, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly

Everyone keeps saying that no one wants to work for Snyder, but we didn’t even ask any of the famous available coaches to be our HC except for Cowher and what team is he coaching for right now? No one, because he didn’t want to return to coaching at the time.

I could see if you were a first time HC (Steve Spagnuolo) and were scared to be our HC because of the pressure of coaching the Washington Redskins. But these established coaches have no reason to fear to come here. If you’re as good as everyone thinks you are you shouldn’t have a problem coming here and coaching this team.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's not entirely correct...

The fact is that no head coach that wants to be successful wants to work for Snyder. It can’t happen. Snyder won’t let it happen because he will not let go of control. He is the classic control freak/micromanager. It’s his money, so he feels he needs to be involved…in fact, he probably feels he is truly helping the situation by being involved.

As long as Snyder continues this behavior, no coach will have a chance of being successful here. Ask Joe Gibbs. Do you really think Gibbs was as successful as he thought he should be? Or do you think he left without success because of Snyder?

That’s my opinion, and I’m stickin to it!

by grandpa grouse on Sep 29, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

common knowledge

It seems to be common knowledge on Monday Night Countdown that none of the good (available) HC will work for Snyder. So the theory that someone would want to come here and be the guy to fix things just doesn’t match reality. I suspect it’s because nobody wants to admit where this team is really at which is in need of a complete rebuild. Several years ago (4-5) we had some good pieces (solid OL) but we needed a decent QB and a better defense. I think people still think we’re at that point but we aren’t. The OL is a train wreck, our CB’s are second rate (and not even very young), and our RB has too much mileage. With the GM duties being handled by Snyder + VC why would a coach think that’s going to be handled well?

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They said the same thing

About Jerry Jones, that he was too much in control and wouldn’t let a HC be the HC. However, he got Bill Parcells to come to Dallas didn’t he? So believe me, if there’s an established coach that wants to coach and Snyder wants him bad enough, Snyder will get him.

Just like Keyshawn Johnson said on Monday Night Countdown; find a way!

Snyder will find a way to get one of the established coaches to coach here, I guarantee it (if he wants them badly enough).

by bigrm18 on Sep 30, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

almost everyone has their price

and Snyder will always pay it

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Johnson's comments

and the kay to making that work is for Snyder to admit he’s botched everything so far and realize he needs a real GM and a real HC. That will mean Danny will have to swallow his pride and do you think Napoleon with a cell phone will do that?

Just because Jerry Jones did doesn’t mean Danny will. It’s not a given like Keyshawn and you guys make it sound.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It also isn't a given

That Snyder will not be able to encourage one of the established coaches to coach here as you make it sound.

Yes Snyder is still crappy, but he has gotten better compared to where he was when he first came here. So who’s to say that he won’t continue to get better or realize that Cerrato is the problem and maybe not all of the head coaches that he continually hires and fires?

by bigrm18 on Sep 30, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The improvements have been marginal at best
but he has gotten better compared to where he was when he first came here

He’s gone from filling a roster with high priced crap to just filling it with high priced free agents.

Neither is going to work.

he still hasn’t hired a good football guy to be GM. Until he does that, nothing else he does really matters.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... but...no
He’s gone from filling a roster with high priced crap to just filling it with high priced free agents.

We signed Haynesworth, Dockery, and Hall during the offseason (high priced free agents)

On the opposite end of the spectrum, we added these players through the draft:

Orakpo
Barnes
Jarmon
Henson
Mitchell
And Edwin Williams through free agency, but he’s a rookie so that doesn’t towards the first category

The year before we added no one through free agency (at least not on the active roster)

However, we added these players through the draft the year before:

Davis
Horton
Kelly
Thomas
Moore
Rinehart
Tryon
Westbrook

So let’s review.

The past two years we’ve filled the roster with 3 high-priced free agents. On the other hand, we’ve filled the roster with 14 drafted players or rookies.

So believe me when I tell you, Snyder HAS improved. Is he exactly where we want him to be as our owner? No. But has he improved? Yes.

by bigrm18 on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's a little premature to declare that Snyder's built a new team

a bulk of our ’09 opening day starters were expensive free agents or high draft picks.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not saying that

All I’m saying is that Snyder isn’t filling the team with free agents like he used to. He’s actually beginning to fill the team with young players with potential. Yes he still has his moments (i.e. Haynesworth) but he’s learning, and who’s to say that he won’t continue to learn about building a team through the draft.

by bigrm18 on Sep 30, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree, Snyder has improved

But he’s still not good. He went from the worst in the league to the bottom 25%. OK, I’m glad he’s learned something but he’s got a long way to go. As someone stated in another thread (I can’t remember which one), at least he isn’t apathetic or unwilling to spend money.

by ZakInOmaha on Oct 1, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's all I've been trying to say

Snyder isn’t good, but he’s improved.

by bigrm18 on Oct 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

it could happen. I don’t think it’s likely unless he gives the proven HC more power over personnel.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HC as GM is not a great model

it hasn’t shown much success in the NFL, especially not without a competent Team President like in NE or Philly.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

But Snyder + VC have a much worse record than several of the HC’s who have been both GM and HC (Holmgren, Shanahan, Parcells) so to me it COULD be an improvement.

by ZakInOmaha on Oct 1, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually

I disagree. While we are obviously not the most talented team in the league, this team does have talent. Young and old. You can’t tell me that another coach wouldn’t want to coach Haynesworth, Cooley, Orakpo, Fletcher, Horton, Moss, etc. I’d even venture to say that another coach would be excited at the potential of Kelly, Jarmon, and even Mitchell, as well as the possibility of unlocking Landry’s talent. No, we are not the most talented team. And we have serious concerns along the O-line. But we have a lot more talent than plenty of other teams in the league. We just don’t have the leadership to maximize that talent.

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

there is some talent

but not enough. In the NFL a few players don’t make a team. Samuels is the only OL we have who should be starting. Most of our DL are old are very close to it. Our CB’s are mediocre at best. People hail Rogers like he’s a premier CB but he’s really pretty mediocre and Hall isn’t even that.

I would say that if this team were well coached it would be mediocre and not awful.

The bad part is that with Snyder and VC playing at GM duties we’re not going to pull in a good coach or get smart personnel decisions.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You got that right

The way I feel now, I would never step into that stadium again until Snyder sells the teams or gets a clue and hires a quality front office capable of putting a proper coaching staff and roster together. I’ll continue to watch on TV and save my hard earned money to spend on better things than on Danial Snyder’s next FA.

by query8779 on Sep 29, 2009 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The TV sponsors

use viewers as potential buyers of their products. Your method should then included boycotting Redskins on TV.

by Jefferson1935 on Sep 29, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://twitter.com/lavararrington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Sep 29, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Skis fans will never revolt.

They are too scared. Sorry. no one will wear bags. No one will hold up signs that say fire Snyder. No one will do a second quarter walkout. No one will eat before the game and not but food or programs. HEAVENS forbid anyone gives up their seats. Everyone will cheer as loud as they did in the 80’s. Washington and surrounding areas are a hot bed of compromise. I am on board, but i left that sad area long ago.

The town believes that the seats are gold. no one gives up gold. Dan Snyder wins. and will for the next 50 years. sorry. Truth hurts. it is time to find a new team for everyone.

by brettpedigo on Sep 29, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All about the nature of the Revolt

2nd quarter walkout would not work because most people don’t even get to their seats until the 2nd quarter anyway.

We need to have well-defined goals, and creative ideas to accomplish them. I put my faith in our ability to continue to enjoy being fans of our favorite team while still trying to execute a plan.

This will not be easy. Most things worth fighting for aren’t.

by Sugar on Sep 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snyder’s not going anywhere. You love the team too much to do anything. And he doesn’t give a damn what we think or do.

Just shut up and root for your favorite team or get together as a group and maybe everyone can get a bulk discount on tampons. Why do so many Redskins fans feel like they are entitled to have a super bowl caliber team every year and then when we don’t everyone cries about it.

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor summarization of the frustration we all feel at Snyder's ineptitude
Why do so many Redskins fans feel like they are entitled to have a super bowl caliber team every year and then when we don’t everyone cries about it.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its just draining man

Its Tuesday you have a 24 hour rule in the NFL. There hasn’t been ONE post in the past two days that was about football. When did this become the #1 place to bitch for Redskins fans? Is it going to be this way for the next 13 weeks? Every week, every fan comes on here and makes a fanpost about how Snyder sucks and their life sucks b/c the Redskins suck?

Come on guys, do you realize that theres a game this week agains the Bucs? We can’t talk about that and how we match up against them and the football aspects of that?

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we just suffered an historic loss

so I think there’s going to be more lamenting than usual.

Also we’re stuck with one of the most inept owners in the league, so as the years of failure pile up, frustration is going to build.

I don’t think it’s fair to demand that people who live and breathe the Redskins (like me) don’t spend a lot of time reflecting on this.

Part of the reason this whole situation is draining is because of the state of the team itself, not because so many people are hung up on it.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 29, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just hope the team doesn’t sit around moping and crying about our “historic” loss. Its a loss, I’ve been through 172 of them in my lifetime. No remembers who the Bucs finally beat when they lost 26 straight they just remember how bad the Bucs were.

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not looking for a superbowl

Just looking for improvement!!!!

by Kurtstack on Sep 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do so many Redskins fans feel like they are entitled to have a super bowl caliber team every year

I know this is a kinda weird analogy, but bear with me.

If you see someone behind a glass window constantly trying to turn a television on using the “volume up” button, instead of the “power on” button you’d be frustrated as well right? They see that nothing is happening when they press the “volume up” button but they keep on doing it anyway. You bang on the glass and yell your head off but they don’t even bother to turn around. Both you and the person trying to turn the television on want to watch your favorite show but you can’t because he doesn’t know how to turn it on. Meanwhile, there’s people all around him that has figured out how to turn the TV on, yet he decides to keep doing it his way, and he feels the TV will eventually turn on if he keeps pressing the “volume up” button. That’s basically where we are with Snyder.

Snyder is trying to “turn the TV on” ( make this team a Super Bowl contender) by “pressing the volume up button” (acquiring free agents) instead of actually “pressing the power on button” (acquiring draft picks and building a team through the draft). More importantly, he keeps on “pressing the volume up button” expecting to see different results, instead of moving his finger to the left and finding the actual button that turns the TV on like everyone else has figured out. That’s why frustration has sit in with everyone I’m pretty sure. Now I’ll admit, his finger has moved to the left a little, but it’s still on the “volume up” button. I’m hoping Snyder will figure out that the “volume up” button isn’t the way to turn the TV on.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha great analogy

So easy to visualize

by pas493 on Sep 29, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my remote

has a button that handles everything. Turns on all my components, sets the pre determined volume level, dims the lights. Any chance we could get that for Snyder?

by CJHutch on Sep 29, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd still

Probably take the batteries out and then try to turn everything on using the powerless remote.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Were are like lions as well

Just looking for a heart. There is not one to be found in this part of the country. We are the new Lions, Bengals and Browns. And awesome cliché tampon drop. your weak insult solidifies my argument about compromise.

by brettpedigo on Sep 29, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every year?

Hey Rumpelstiltskin, it’s 2009 and we haven’t had a Super Bowl caliber team in 17 years.

I’d settle for a team that has goes to the playoffs more than twice a decade even if the team gets destroyed in the game.

by ZakInOmaha on Sep 30, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will some please do something with about all of the crap ranting FanPosts

I know this is somewhat off topic, but I really don’t know where else to say this… and I’m definitely not making another rant FanPost.

While I empathize and agree with most of the posts and sentiments in these posts and discussions, they’re really just rants and lack any substantive discussion. Maybe I am incorrect in assuming that FanPosts aren’t for these kinds of discussions, but even if they are do we really need a FanPost from EVERY fan who is disappointed about last weekends loss?

by superjuan on Sep 29, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

FanPosts?

Oh shit, I thought this was a Ranting Blog. Shit. Sorry. Go Skins~!

by poopo on Sep 29, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am so down

If anyone wants to read a blog post that shows definitively why Snyder is the one to blame read this:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/262537-whos-to-blame-in-washington/show_full

I didn’t write it but I saw it posted at Redskins Insider yesterday. It breaks things down pretty well. If someone is planning on orchestrating doing something that embarsses Snyder at a game let me know. I’ll wear my county lockup pants.

by SkinsOsTerps on Sep 29, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome article.

This Snyder guy is horrible. But don’t forget whose fault this REALLY is… Jack Kent Cooke. It is his fault for not giving the team to his son like a good father would have done. I am sure he did not realize it would screw every single redskins fan over for the next 60 years years, though.

by brettpedigo on Sep 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

start the revolution without me

You gonna make an ego-maniacal owner change his stripes? I don’t think so. The first guy he should fire is Vinny, but we all know that won’t happen. Face it, the Skins are toast for the next 3 or 4 decades unless he changes his ways and get’s out of the way. Fire Zorn, bench Campbell, trade all the Free Agents…won’t fix anything. Snyder is like the kid who owns all the toys in the sandbox and owns the sandbox too.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Sep 29, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GM is the most valuable...

…to any teams office. Football or baseball. We need a GM in the mold of a Bobby Beathard or Casserley. They could both identify talent, young or old, through free agency or the draft, and assemble a team that the coaching staff could work with. It’s not always about who’s the most well known or expensive player. Cerrato ain’t cuttin’ it.

by Roy D. on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FREE BAGS TO COVER EMBARRASSED FANS FACES

We’re running a promotion on our web site just for disgruntled Skins fans. Stop by either our VA or DC store and get a free paper bag to cover your face while you watch the game. See www.groomingguys.com for details. We’re fans, but this is infurating and if guys need to cover thier face… we’re here to help.

by Grooming Guys on Sep 29, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will it make anybody feel better if

every shot of the crowd this weekend focuses on people with bag heads?

It won’t make me feel good, that’s for sure. And you know as soon as the skins build a lead all those bags will come off.

Sure it will embarrass Danny, but it will also embarrass the players. No matter what you say, they don’t deserve that.

by Boo. on Sep 29, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That solves nothing

Putting a paper bag over your head will really make us the laughing stock of the NFL, and even more so in the NFC East. Can you imagine the ridicule and hilarity that would ensue from Giant, Eagle, and Cowboy fans if we even thought about doing something like this? I’d be truly embarrassed and ashamed of Redskin Nation if we did something so pointless.

by bigrm18 on Sep 29, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We will definitely see this on Sunday

and its ridiculous. People look at the Rams and Lions fans doing stuff like this and laugh, compassionately. Poor small market teams and their runs of bad luck, at least they’re being good sports about it and still going to the games.

Enough of calling it a historic loss, too. It was a bad loss, but the Lions are going to win a bunch more games this year and it hasn’t stopped us from having a chance to win. This team can turn it around with three winnable games before the tough part of the schedule comes. Time to be the Redskins fans that lift their team, not the Redskins fans that embarrass themselves.

by Boo. on Sep 29, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IF I wore a paper bag

I would write Snyder across it, and “I love the team, hate the owner” on the back.

I feel as if a majority of anger and ill-will by the fan base these days is (rightfully) directed at Snyder.

Hopefully the players know that.

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

snyder’s disregard of the importance of the draft is his greatest weakness.

#1 eagles fan in Canada as decided by a panel of jesus'

I'm a Leaf's fan... I like the flyers though (especially back in the day flyers)

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Sep 29, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

among many weaknesses.

he doesn’t know the first thing about running an NFL team.

from hiring good football people, to having patience, to committing to a plan, to the draft, to not giving out max value contracts, etc etc etc

It's all Dan Snyder's Fault

by smutsboy1 on Sep 30, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, can’t disagree, i just feel the draft is is the most important thing for building a good team… he is bad at everything though ur right.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Oct 6, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also on the bright side...

I will be at the game on Sunday. All will go well…

by bigredsnapper on Sep 30, 2009 1:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What would you have us do master?

How can we aid the revolution besides staying at home and watching the skins on TV?

Go Skins

by The Great Samini on Sep 30, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on now

we’re Redskins fans. Not Mr. Slave. Don’t call a guy named sugar ‘master’. :)

by SkinsOsTerps on Sep 30, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha

I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....

by Rekka on Sep 30, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hehehehe

First and foremost, we’re gonna have fun. I won’t be wearing a bag on my head. I will be tailgating my butt off and having as much fun on a Sunday as possible. I will take a win any way I can get it and be happy and celebrate it. But there is a way to voice our displeasure with Snyder in a way that he can’t ignore forever. (maybe)

by Sugar on Oct 1, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what is ur plan for snyder? hire a bona-fide gm? snyder will still go after free agents, which shouldn’t hurt if there’s no cap, but the cap will likely be back at some point.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Oct 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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