Hogs Haven Predicts Redskins Final 53
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT
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First, the obvious: Sugar has been shelved for the time being. I will be tackling a new writing assignment within SB Nation and I was asked to come up with a cooler name to write under. The best I could come up with was "Ken Meringolo". I know what you're thinking...sounds too much like an undercover secret agent of international intrigue. I guess you could say I followed the lead of one my heroes, Lt. Frank Drebin, and decided to use my maiden name.
Not that many tears (besides mine) will be shed over it, but Sugar will most assuredly be back. I will keep you guys posted on when and where my other writing assignments will end up. But on to the issues of the day.
Here is our crack at predicting the Redskins "Final 53". We have all been watching the preseason closely--there won't be many surprises. But we are picking a couple. Have at it (after the jump):
QB (3): Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Colt Brennan
RB (5): Clinton Portis, Ladell Betts, Rock Cartwright, Mike Sellers, Anthony Alridge
WR (5): Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle El, Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Marko Mitchell
TE (3): Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Todd Yoder
OL (9): Chris Samuels, Derrick Dockery, Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Stephon Heyer, Chad Rinehart, Mike Williams, Jeremy Bridges, Will Montgomery
DL (9): Phillip Daniels, Albert Haynesworth, Cornelius Griffin, Anthony Montgomery, Kedric Golston, Lorenzo Alexander, Andre Carter, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson
LB (7): London Fletcher, Rocky McIntosh, Brian Orakpo, H.B. Blades, Chris Wilson, Cody Glenn, Robert Henson
DB (9): Carlos Rogers, DeAngelo Hall, Fred Smoot, Kevin Barnes, Justin Tryon, LaRon Landry, Chris Horton, Reed Doughty, Kareem Moore
P: Hunter Smith
LS: Ethan Albright
K: Dave Rayner
I put Rob Jackson in over Renaldo Wynn, Robert Henson in over Robert Thomas, Rayner over Suisham, and Anthony Alridge in over whomever you want to call the 53rd man to make it.
Why do I continue to keep Renaldo Wynn off my final 53 list? If you think like me, then you think Wynn is not really a guy who is going to get a lot of snaps anyway unless there is an injury. Rob Jackson is still a little young and raw, and I have not heard his name a ton but if you are going to keep a guy around to caddy for the rest of the defensive linemen, why not keep a young guy who has a shot to develop into a serviceable backup instead of a guy at the end of his rope who has played all of his best football already? This is the pick I will most likely be wrong about, as Renaldo Wynn is a pro who knows how to play the game, and was brought in for his leadership and experience this offseason. But I had to stay true to what I have been saying this summer.
The Robert Henson/Cody Glenn/Robert Thomas decision at linebacker is a little more straight-forward. I think Cody Glenn is at the head of the 3-pack. The decision between Henson and Thomas is not so hard when you remember one thing: Vinny drafted Henson. He hates to be wrong about his draft picks. And lucky for him, he is in the position to pronounce his rightness! Henson has made a few mental blunders during games this preseason, and dropping that sure interception against the Ravens hurt him (coming out of TCU, he was actually graded as a sure-handed linebacker.) But in the end, the team will keep the guy they picked in the draft, and drop the guy they signed off the street. Regardless of who is better--though let's not make that out to be a huge deal. Neither Henson nor Thomas factors huge for us this season, and if Henson can figure out to stay on the field for special teams by mid-season, he will be worth the investment. Finally, it says here that Robert Henson will pull off an Alfred Fincher kind of performance against the Jags and earn the spot.
Anthony Alridge...really? Vinny brought him in this offseason and the word from the inside of the building is that Vinny loves him too much to let him go. What's not to love? He is one of those "yards-per-touch" guys. He is going to get the ball in the flat on screens, pitches, and dump-offs and he is going to get upfield in a hurry. I know Marcus Mason has been a fan favorite to make this squad multiple times, but the fact of the matter is he does not give us something we don't already have. Alridge gives us a scatback, speed option off the bench that will prove very useful this season.
I went with Rayner over Suisham even though there seems to be a resounding consensus that Suisham will retain his position. I FEEL LIKE I AM TAKING CRAZY PILLS! How do you hold any benefit of the doubt in a kicking competition when you were last in the league in field goal percentage? Rayner has had the better kickoff leg and neither has blown the roof off with their field goals. If anything, I would be tempted to keep Rayner and then bring in either Mike Nugent (Tampa Bay Buccaneers) or Brandon Coutu (Seattle Seahawks)--helps to watch every preseason game!--to compete with Rayner in the week leading up to the regular season. Coutu has a good chance to make the Seahawks' roster, but if he doesn't, we wouldn't be the only ones trying to sign him.
Practice Squad Predictions: Edwin Williams, Scott Burly, Keith Eloi, Robbie Agnone, Chase Daniel, Eddie Williams
WaTimes 53-man roster [Redskins 360]
WaPost 53-man roster [Redskins Insider]
Redskins Blog [Terl took his link down...I swore it was there?]
What do you guys think?
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I agree with everything but…
Rayner. Zorn is saying this just to to pressure on Suisham. I’d be pretty surprised if Shizaam got cut, but could care less.
Will Montgomery looked HORRIBLE against the Pats. He was playing Center on the plays I saw, so maybe that doesn’t count for much.
So Ken, no love for Edwin Williams?
by KevinE on Sep 2, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
But I have to go with my fellow canuck, Shaun Suisham. Only out of national loyalty. Rayner’s kickoffs were looking great in the preseason.
by SSBlitz on Sep 2, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t tell us you’re canadian, this changes everything.
Seriously though I like Suisham, I’m hoping Kevin’s thoughts on Hunter holding really helps the kicking game.
by pas493 on Sep 2, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can already see it
Suisham is getting distance on his long kicks. When I spoke with Shaun at camp, he said it was a huge a difference.
by KevinE on Sep 2, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Funny anecdote about my Canadianism.
Not many Redskins fans up here. People usually either choose the Bills for their proximity, or the 49er/Cowboys/Patriots depending on when they jumped on the bandwagon. So you can imagine how surprised I was when I noticed the homeless guy outside my office wears Redskins track pants. Being a hobo, he doesn’t change very often. And with my inability to pass him without giving him money now, I don’t think he ever will.
by SSBlitz on Sep 2, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close but...
Its time for Rock to roll on out of here. DT11 can handle kickoffs & AA will do just fine as the 3rd back.
by Will_GA on Sep 2, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Good post I especially agree with the aldridge selection
Rock does alot more for ST than return kicks.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 2, 2009 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Heard Theismann on the radio yesterday say...
…that he thought Mason should make the team. Take it for what it’s worth.
I’d like to see Mason make it (local boy makes good and all, plus from what I’ve seen, he can play).
Would love to see Doug Dutch (another local) somehow get onto the practice squad.
by artmonk4ever on Sep 2, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
Actually, +4 or 5… everyone I know wants Dutch to beat out Tryon for the 53. Why isn’t he getting more playing time? He should definitely be on the practice squad… especially because he can play wideout (did at Michigan) and special teams.
...one of those guys who reads all the time but barely comments
by Juice over Whine on Sep 2, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beating out Tryon doesn't necessarily get you a roster spot, imo
To me, Tryon would be the 56th or 57th guy on this team. We just don’t have huge depth at DB, so I won’t be surprised to see him make it. But if someone is better than Tryon, that just means that he’s just good enough to not quite make the team (but he will anyway if the coaches want 9 DBs).
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
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by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knew you were a chick!
use my maiden name
by liger99 on Sep 2, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
Nah, just a lesbian trapped in a dude’s body
by Ken Meringolo on Sep 2, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great Quote from the ST coach today about Rock
To all those out there who keep on insisting we can have DT return kicks thereby making Rock expendable read this quote from the Post. ""The thing that people don’t realize [about teams] is that people play four and five positions," Smith said. "A guy has a position on a kickoff, a kickoff return, a punt and a punt return; that’s four spots. When I lose a guy, I lose a guy at four spots.
“It may take one guy to fill all those four. It may take four guys to fill all four. That’s the difference. It’s not like when you lose a fullback and say, ‘Well, we’ll just go to another formation.’ In this case, you can lose four slots, which is critical. So you need guys that are versatile like Rock, who can do a lot of things and play a lot of places.”
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 2, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cartright
I would not get rid of Cartright at all. We have lost our 2 other st heros in Kherry Campbell and James Thrash. Cartright has to stay.
by monk81 on Sep 2, 2009 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Our special teams took a huge hit after we cut B Mitch a while back. I think some people lost sight of that fact and consider roster decisions the same as making them on Madden….he is rated better so he is better. Rock is the leader on ST, so losing him would be crushing even if he is a little slower. IMO we are going to be in a lot of close games this year and ST play is going to be a huge factor in winning them.
by liger99 on Sep 2, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a great tackler and one of the best kick returners in the game
Other guys might be more talented and could be better if they were returning kicks(Moss) but Rock was one of the better KR in the league last year statistically.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Mason could pass block he'd make the team.
Imagine Mason and CP lined up in the backfield, Cooley and Sleepy tight, and Big Mike Sellers leading the way…. you KNOW it’s a running play. Talk about a power sweep!
At any rate, Mason seems to be the same kind of power runner that CP is…. he could DEFINITELY be in our plans if something happens to Clinton. But he HAS to work on his pass blocking. We can’t risk Jason on Marcus Mason making a weak handwave at a blitzing safety.
by BillWard on Sep 2, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Next Year
We need to draft a RB next year, but we’re hindered by Vinny not picking a o-lineman this year.
We definately a clear cut double threat. Leon Washington, Sproles, LenWhale, Norwood, C.Taylor could be nice
by pas493 on Sep 2, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed. I like how you left out that dallas dude.
by liger99 on Sep 2, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can easily get a back in the 5th or 6th round
next year who can be as good as MM is now IMO.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 2, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want someone that is good as MM thats the point, I want better! Look at the combos out there: Turner-Norwood, Tomlinson-Sproles, Barber-Jones, Westbrook-McCoy, Jacobs-Ward (last year), LenWhale-CJ, DeHall-JStew, Addai-Brown, Parker-Mendenhall, Peterson-Taylor, McGahee-McClain-Rice, you want me to keep going?
We are sorely lacking here and Portis-5th/6th Rounder or Portis-Mason isn’t scaring any one.
by pas493 on Sep 2, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TJ Duckett and Shaun Alexander are still out there.
by KevinE on Sep 2, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not funny.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but that's next year.
Clearly, if Alridge or Mason or Dorsey get signed this year, it won’t be guaranteed, so we can see if we’ve got something valuable right there and then not have to use a draft pick on an unproven college guy.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't clear
I meant we can get someone who is ATLEAST as good coming out of college as Mason is now. Sproles was a late 4th rounder. Michael Turner was a 5th rounder. Dorsey levens was a 5th. Stephen Davis was a fourth. Jamal Anderson and TD were late rounders. McClain was a 4th. Ward was a 7th. Bradshaw was a 7th. The titans are raving about their sixth rounder Javon Ringer I was just trying to express that we don’t even have to use any of our top 3 picks to get a RB who could help us next year if we couldn’t find a guy in FA.
by BayAreaBullet on Sep 2, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Pretty close to what I think
But I’ve got Yoder out and Mason in, Jackson out and Wynn in, and Rayner out and Suisham in.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 2, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, can't believe I forgot this one
Chase over Colt. I’m calling it
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m calling it"
I know saying this entitles you to come back after the fact with a proud “I told you all so”, but then can I come back and call you out on it later too?
It’s not happening, Chase is on the practice squad as emergency QB.
by SSBlitz on Sep 3, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It wasn't some cocky statement
I was referencing shows like ER or Scrubs or House (all of which I’ve really only seen a few episode of) where someone is dead and a doctor says something like “call it” or “I’m calling it”
As in I’m saying that Colt is dead (has been all preseason).
Yea, you can try to track me down if I’m wrong. I don’t really care. BTW though, the emergency QB is the 3rd QB. A practice squad QB can’t come in in an emergency, since he’s not on the active roster.
But don’t worry, I won’t be a braggart about it if I’m right. This is the way I see it. Sorry if that offends you.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, one more
I didn’t even see you had Tryon on there. If we keep him there simply for the sake of having 9 DBs instead of 8, I guess I can live with that. But I think keeping him on the team would immediately make him the worst non-kicking Redskin on the roster.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"worst non-kicking redskin"
I love the designation. Is it wrong that Suisham just makes me angry?
by Sugar on Sep 3, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when you're only job is to kick balls every sunday
yea, you’re perfectly justified to be pissed if he can’t do that right,
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Sep 3, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't make me mad
We should all be so lucky to be under-qualified for a job. I refuse to believe that there’s such a shortage on guys who can kick a football between uprights or punt them to a proper area of the field. For years, the Redskins have been picking up guys who make that kind of stuff look downright impossible. Hard to believe this is the franchise that once had the only kicker to win NFL MVP.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Sep 3, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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