Washington Redskins Have Some Actual Depth
I have pointed to the ages of a large contingent of the Redskins' roster as a sign that we are in fact getting younger. That much has been unmistakable. What has remained in question is whether or not the youth on our team could actually play. There still remains some question marks, but as we head into the season, we have some answers on some of the players that simply must be able to get it done on the field, either as a starter or as a backup.
Devin Thomas - He really shined against the Patriots. I have only my tailgate-soaked memories of the game, so I will have to watch the replay on NFL Network but he looked like he belonged on the field instead of just taking up space. He made moves on both the ball and the defenders that made me feel a lot better about his role in our offense.
Malcolm Kelly - You get the feeling that he builds up a lot of confidence in his coaches and teammates all week in practice. To a man, they all talk about Malcolm getting on the field in games and making plays. He might not be a world-beater yet, but he has flashed an ability to play the ball in the air that we can only hope translates into touchdowns for us this season.
Marko Mitchell- We have yet to see him square off against the other team's starting cornerbacks for a whole game, but the word on the street is that he gets it done in practice against our starters. In the last two preseason games, he has hauled in touchdown catches from the reserve quarterback--both of which required him to catch the ball in traffic and get both feet down in bounds.
More after the jump...
Fred Davis- Sleepy has been on the field a ton this preseason. He has contributed on special teams, and he has hauled in a touchdown pass. All offseason, I have been singing his praises along with almost everyone else. He is a beast. But he still needed to get a few things clicking before he was able to be a factor on this roster. Is that a clicking sound I hear coming from #86?
I get the feeling that Coach Zorn would love nothing better than for Kelly and Thomas to push Antwaan Randle El off the field. I am not sure we are there exactly, but my gut tells me if you are listening to the radio call this season, you are going to hear Larry Michael say, "Look at this! Kelly wide to the left, Thomas wide to the right, and Fred Davis in the slot. Here we go." That formation would get Cooley and Portis on the field as well. That would be exciting.
Brian Orakpo- Another rookie who has shown he belongs on the field. His bust potential is at an all-time low following his performance this preseason thus far. He can rush the passer to be sure, and when he bones up on his linebacking skills he will be an even bigger force on this unit. So far he has been more than a few offensive linemen could handle.
Chris Horton- His impact last season waned as the year wore on, but his commitment this offseason to studying film and learning his position leads me to believe he is not a one-year wonder.
Kareem Moore - With Reed Doughty back and looking pretty strong for us at backup safety, it is less important that Moore is ready to step in right away. To be sure, he has not done anything that would push either Horton or Doughty off of the field, but he got some valuable experience this preseason. I would love to see him start standing out on special teams. Either way, we know a lot more about him this year.
Kevin Barnes - As a 3rd round draft pick, there are expectations that you are capable of coming into the league and contributing right away. For some reason though, this franchise has a way of not finding out about those expectations. Last year Chad Rinehart (a 3rd rounder) did not see enough reps even in practice for anyone to know much about him, and that is unacceptable. Barnes got burned early in the preseason and then against New England, he made a play. I won't say that he is ready to play most downs right this second, but the coaches have some tape of this guy now and I am confident that Blache can use it to bring him along. We are fortunate that we do not need to force him into the fire right away, but if we had to, it would seem we could do worse.
If you look at nothing other than just getting some reps, you can throw in Justin Tryon, Jeremy Jarmon and maybe even Chad Rinehart as guys who got some much-needed looks in August.
Because of the way the team spends its money, the roster has been top-heavy for a while now. On "paper", you would have said our starters were capable of causing damage in the league every year going back a ways. But one or two injuries forced us to rely on guys we knew literally nothing about. Or even worse, it forced us to rely on guys everyone else in the league knew enough about--like they weren't any good.
Look, this team has some major areas that need to be bolstered by quality young talent. AHEM....offensive line...cough, cough. But isn't it refreshing to know that our bench has a few players capable of stepping up and contributing right now at positions (like wide receiver) that have for so long been bare? I am encouraged. I am still not ready to sing the praises of Vinny Cerrato, but if he comes back next season and hauls in a few offensive linemen in the draft, I will be a lot closer.
In the last preseason game, we will get a healthy dose of young players. But the real work has been done. This week, guys like Cody Glenn and Robert Henson will be making their case to be a factor in the team's long-term plans. I can only guess that the team likes something from at least one of these guys, or Alfred Fincher would still be here. If you recall, it was the 4th preseason game last year where Fincher really made a name for himself. My guess is they are going to give one of the guys that Vinny drafted a chance to make the team and, at the same time, make Vinny look good.
What do you guys think?
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Which 1st or 2nd year guy are you the most excited about?
by Ken Meringolo on Aug 31, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Orakpo
I’m excited about them all but something about watching Orakpo play just gets me all giddy.
by travisjh86 on Aug 31, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
I voted the first based solely on him. Don’t get me wrong, I think the other guys can contribute, but B Rak is gonna e a difference maker.
As for the receivers, I am now firmly in the corner of Mitchell. Obviously he was saying what he was supposed to say about his downfield, er, block. But he got it right. That type of thing will win over the coaches as much as any catch. Well, ALMOST any catch. The fact that he has now pulled in 2 TD catches that this team has been hasn’t been able to make since ’99 has to make a difference. That Brennan throw was pretty, but the over the shoulder catch and subsequent footwork are the types of things big league receivers make. He may not be as athletic as Thomas or Kelly, but he makes up for it in height and fundamentals. I think they should have him school Thomas and Kelly on end zone footwork.
by CJHutch on Aug 31, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santana Moss. OK he’s not a 1st or 2nd year guy, but he will benefit if there are other threats.
And Zorn. I think he’s going to prove to be a great coach. I think his players respect him, he’s comfortable in the position and he understands the QB position.
by hsoup on Aug 31, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Orakpo and the trio of Davis/Kelly/Thomas...
which do you think is going to make the biggest impact this season? And I know it is unfair to triple team Orakpo, but I am doing it anyway.
by Ken Meringolo on Aug 31, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Orakpo
I’ll give him handicap of being a rookie, of course.
JJ Fe
by Rydaddy617 on Aug 31, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Handicap unnecessary
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
by kseandoyle on Aug 31, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The answer should be Davis/Kelly/Thomas but i’m not sure since Kelly and Thomas haven’t been named number two quite yet.
But the combination of all three of them on offense should be more of an impact than Orakpo alone although Orakpo is already a starter. I know Orakpo will be a huge impact for us on defense this year but I keep wanting to tell myself that at least two of the three second rounders from last year will have above average years.
by travisjh86 on Aug 31, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I posted this in another article, but if we only had room for one of the following who would you choose and why:
Marko Mitchell or Marcus Mason.
by travisjh86 on Aug 31, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell
I hate to pick against Mason because I think he has better vision than ANY of our other backs, but I think MItchell is gonna open some eyes. We keep talking about Thomas or Kelly grabbing the #2, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if Mitchell ends up there by years end. Sure, he’s done most of his work against nobodies, but you can pick out the subtle parts of the plays he’s made to tell he’s gonna be a pretty damned good receiver. And the guys got suction cups for hands.
by CJHutch on Aug 31, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why make the choice
If both are ready, both are young then the Redskins need to find a way to keep both
by dr WNC on Aug 31, 2009 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell
the coaches will be more comfortable with the idea of Mitchell missing a tackle on special teams than they will be about Mason missing a block and letting Campbell get hit. I love to watch Mason run but am not sure he makes the team.
by hsoup on Aug 31, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mitchell for sure. He has ‘it’ where Mason does not. Mitchell can make game changing plays or at least I feel like he can. I thought Mason had ‘it’ two years ago, but I have not seen anything from him this year. I think Mithell will make an impact, and Mason is just a 25 year-old backup.
by liger99 on Sep 1, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm normally with you
But I have to respectfully disagree here, sir. Mason has finally raised his game enough to start with our 1st team. IMO, Mason has shown (beyond a shadow of a doubt) that he is better than Betts. Especially at the very thing Zorn wants out of Betts, a 3rd down and goal-line back.
Mason is just a 25 year-old backup.I’ll take that over a 29-30 year old backup (who just doesn’t have the same explosion) ANY day.
RAK EM UP!
by VA_Skin on Sep 1, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually like Mason over Betts, but don’t see Zorn cutting betts for him. After the young guys let Zorn down last year, I feel like he is going to lean towards the vet players in making roster decisions…unless the player gives him a good ‘reason’ to bump the vet out. I have not seen the reason this year. In 2007 Mason killed it verse the 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason…he actually made the 53 man roster that year. He played well in 2008 too, but something is missing this year. He seems slower and he is not killing the 2nd and 3rd team D like in 2007. I was expecting to see some 20+ yard runs like in the past….maybe I’m missing something…I have not seen that burst like before? If he was strong on special teams or if we had cap issues or if zorn trusted the young guys more or if he was bursting off long runs, I could see betts getting cut for him. He could still make the team as the 4/5 RB, just not over betts or rock. I will watch Mason closely in this next game to see if I’m missing something.
by liger99 on Sep 2, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve watched my PVR of this game twice now, planning on doing it again tonight. The whole game was beautiful and reminds me why I fell in love with the redskins. Some things I noticed:
Hunter is a great punter.
Thomas had a great mid-field move that just froze a defender. It was beautiful to watch and reminds me how quick he is for such a big receiver.
Kelly has been playing strong too (though he could’ve opened his body to the goal-line fade.
Horton’s tackling and ability to get into the backfield continue to impress me. Seriously, he doesn’t miss a tackle.
Smoot played very well. He made great coverage moves and had a few very nice hits (one missed).
Haynesworth is a beast. Love the smash-mouth mentality of crushing Brady into the ground (something we saw Pittsburgh and Baltimore do to Campbell last year)
Rak is my boyfriend.
by SSBlitz on Aug 31, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Rak is my boyfriend"
you’re gonna get me fired. they frown upon laughter at my workplace. especially the ones that make you have to leave the office..
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Aug 31, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that
I immediately tivo-replayed it like three times
Thomas had a great mid-field move that just froze a defender. It was beautiful to watch and reminds me how quick he is for such a big receiver.
by smutsboy1 on Aug 31, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two players I forgot.
Heyer – Just creamed that guy on the screen play. Got out there quick too.
Moss – Made a bunch of beautiful catches. And had the dirtiest first down celebration. I don’t know exactly what he did, but I love it. Pointing and opening his hands…
by SSBlitz on Sep 1, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the moss thing was bad ass. I’m sure I looked just as bad ass attempting it after jumping up from the couch when he made the first down.
by liger99 on Sep 1, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marko Mitchell
is my answer to Sugar’s question and travisjh’s.
I do think it’s a bit premature to be talking about our depth, though. We are not in a very good position to accurately evaluate our actual depth. By the time the bye week rolls around, we might be. Also, the supposed depth being discussed here is largley irrelevant if the offensive line falls apart again.
by artmonk4ever on Aug 31, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is true BUT
I feel justified talking up our guys after hearing the non-stop hoopla being made over the potential for the young crop of receivers the Giants have. Except ALL of our “big ifs” have the one thing you *CAN’T" teach – size.
by CJHutch on Aug 31, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a clicking sound I hear coming from #86?
nope… that was the sound of the ball hitting the turf.
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I (personally) think the article was poorly titled. While the skins and some of their players (orakpo, mitchell) have shown me waaay more than i expected out of them I wouldnt list any position (other than WR and even thats exxxtremely premature) as deep.
Now that Fincher is gone who would step into Orakpo’s spot if he were to miss a game?
Mentioning Justin Tyron in an article about depth is laughable… how did he even make it past the 1st round of cuts??
by dt3 on Aug 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that Fincher is gone who would step into Orakpo’s spot if he were to miss a game?
Chris Wilson would be my first guess. Henson and Glenn are there too. I’d rather not see Blades on the outside. With the safeties we have, we could put Doughty or Horton in as a 3 safety nickel type defense too.
Mentioning Justin Tyron in an article about depth is laughable… how did he even make it past the 1st round of cuts??
He had two or three nice plays against the Patriots.
Safeties, CBs, DLine all have great depth.
by SSBlitz on Aug 31, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t heard anything about him in awhile, how’s he doing?
by travisjh86 on Sep 1, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like thomas is the backup to Rocky on the weak side.
by liger99 on Sep 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's as irrelevant as ever.
RAK EM UP!
by VA_Skin on Sep 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to remember this is a Philly fan
But come on…the Skins have been one deep at so many positions for so long. We get hung up on the “we look good on paper” argument because we have had some name guys on our roster. But the reality is we have been paper thin up and down our roster. The point isn’t necessarily the analysis of each of the guys who are up and coming…the point is we have guys that are finally coming up.
by Ken Meringolo on Aug 31, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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