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Chat with Behind The Steel Curtain for Redskins/Steelers Game

With all the time and effort it takes to keep up with all the Redskins daily updates, it becomes almost impossible to truly know the ins and outs of every football team, so it works out well that each week leading up to the Redskins game, I will be able to do a Q&A session with the Redskins' opponents SB Nation blog. In this week's case, Behind the Steel Curtain. These Q&A session will give us a nice insight of what to expect and some key players to look for (fantasy?!).

Hogs HavenThe Steelers offensive line seems to be quite shaky. What are you expectations and predictions for how it will hold up this week against the Redskins D-line, which is one of the best in the business. Haynesworth and Orakpo will both be playing Saturday.

Mike Tomlin has said that he expects the Steelers first team to play around a full quarter on Saturday.  I would assume the Redskins first team would probably play a similar amount perhaps less, so we should have a full quarter of work for our first team against a top ten defense.  If last week against the Cardinals is any indication I expect the offensive line to look improved upon from last year and more confident working together as a cohesive unit.  Darnell Stapleton who started for the Steelers last season during their Super Bowl run is injured and former back-up tackle Trai Essex looks to fill his spot, although reports are he was likely to do so anyway.  The back-up group looked very impressive against the second and third teams of the Cardinals so fans are very excited to see their progress against a top level defense. 

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Hogs HavenOn the flip side, the Redskins offensive line is a major concern here in Washington. What can we expect from your d-line in your starting defense and backup defensive players who will see the majority of time?

I think the Steelers defensive line is criminally underrated and frequently forgotten about due to the play of the linebackers and Troy Polamalu who tend to overshadow the group.  Casey Hampton, Aaron Smith, and Brett Keisel form probably the best 3-4 defensive line in the NFL and with the addition of first round draft pick Ziggy Hood this season I think this defensive line will help create a lot of chaos for NFL teams including Jason Cambell and company on Saturday.

Hogs Haven: What type of minutes will Big Ben, Charlie Batch, and former Dennis Dixon play? I imagine the former Oregon Duck will see a lot of time. He seemed to impress his first pre-season game.

Mike Tomlin has said the starters will likely play a quarter.  I would expect Charlie Batch to lead them into halftime and Dennis Dixon likely getting the majority of the second half.  Dixon did look good in the first pre-season game, and it really isn't surprising considering he was a Heisman Trophy candidate before his injury his senior season at Oregon.  A lot of media are speculating that Dixon could be a possible "Wildcat" type player but I would be very surprised to see him work out of that type of formation much on Saturday, as he is in the process of proving he can be an NFL drop-back quarterback not a gimmick.

Hogs Haven: Any lesser known players to look out for that you expect to contribute/step-up heavily this year that was not a major contributer on your Super Bowl run last year?

Steelers fans will be looking heavily at undrafted free agent running back Isaac Redman who scored two touchdowns in the Steelers first pre-season game.  Redman is the career rushing leader at Division II Bowie St. and has been very impressive at Steelers training camp this season. The Steelers and their Fans are hoping Redman can provide a goal-line spark that has been missing from the team since Jerome Bettis left to be on Football Night in America.

Other players that Steelers fans will want to keep an eye on are Limas Sweed, Shaun McDonald, and Mike Wallace, who are all battling for the third wide-receiver spot.  It appears second year man out of Texas, Limas Sweed, has the edge and it is his job to lose; but rookie Mike Wallace's speed has been eye-opening so far which isn't surprising considering he was the second fastest man at the Combine behind Darrius Heyward-Bey.  These two players and veteran Shaun McDonald, who led the team in catches and yards during the last preseason game, are all trying to prove they can make an impact on the 2009 Pittsburgh Steelers.

A quick update, Big Ben hurt his foot in practice yesterday and probably will not play Saturday. This is a big shame since I really wanted to see Washington's first defense go against a QB who is so tough to bring down and so great at making the tough plays. A full half of Charlie Batch?? I mean, it will be comical, but I really want to see our guys tested.

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Looks like we’re in for another showing from steelers fans this saturday…

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2009/8/17/992343/anyone-going-to-the-steelers-game

I’m out of town this weekend so i won’t make it but please pour your beers on them for me.

by travisjh86 on Aug 21, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dang

Yea, the Steelers blogger that answered these questions is going, but I’ll let him pass since a.) he lives in DC, and 2.) he’s SB Nation.

Man…it would be great if I could burn a terrible towel in front of a bunch of PIT fans and video their reaction. I’ll see what i can do. Sugar and I will be at Fedex bright and early.

by KevinE on Aug 21, 2009 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just don’t do it in Pittsburgh, the real crazy Yinzers would probably kill you. You could burn down their house and not get that strong of a reaction from them.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I work with one of those steelcurtain losers on that link...cdsumm

He sits over by the bathroom in my office…I normally stop by to fart in his cube on my way to take a dump. I will go eat some nasty Indian food for lunch today and give him a nice treat before I leave.

by liger99 on Aug 21, 2009 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Redskins fans level of fandom

I know there’s a lot of diehard skins fans out there but seeing opposing teams fans at FedEx in mase bothers me. I never got to see a game at RFK but know plenty about it. I’ve seen about 10-12 games at FedEx and there’s always a lot of opposing fans there.

I guess there’s really no point to my venting it’s just that maybe the size of fedex combined with dc not being a good sports town leads to away teams being represented strongly. That and a bunch of corporations own tickets.

I want the homefield advantage we used to
have.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Aug 21, 2009 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I think Batch will test ya'll just fine. You may be disappointed, but not in Batch.
A quick update, Big Ben hurt his foot in practice yesterday and probably will not play Saturday. This is a big shame since I really wanted to see Washington’s first defense go against a QB who is so tough to bring down and so great at making the tough plays. A full half of Charlie Batch?? I mean, it will be comical, but I really want to see our guys tested

Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile - Albert Einstein.

by fanofsteel on Aug 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha….it should be a good time guys…

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by drinkyourmilkshake on Aug 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Limas Sweed

He was a guy that a lot of people had pegged as a Redskin in last year’s draft. I guess we weren’t the only ones that drafted a slow-to-develop receiver. But he should be good.

Wasn’t he the one who alligator-armed a pass against us last year? Or did he just straight-up drop it?

by Ken Meringolo on Aug 21, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably dropped it!

He did a lot of that last season. They got him some contacts in the offseason though and he’s definitely improved, both as a route runner and his co-ordination. Rookie WRs rarely make a big contribution, it’s usually the crisp route runners who do. I don’t think anyone would’ve called Sweed that type of player as a rookie but he is a deep threat.

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the Iron Curtain.

Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile - Albert Einstein.

by fanofsteel on Aug 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mean Joe would have sacked Moscow on first down. War over.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

looks like

Big Ben is scared of Big Al. The thought of Painsworth and B-Rak bearing down on him made Ben kick the Gatorade table to put himself out of the game.

by CJHutch on Aug 21, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not gonna lie, I’m relieved. Big Ben is too valuable to throw in against your D-Line with all the questions about our O-Line for this game. It’s the preseason, there are better ways to get Ben into regular season form than having him run for his life from big Al and Orakpo.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is that....respect?

Sorry if I’m a little thrown, but I’m still not used to intelligent football conversations. Before this blog, the arguments usually went “Redskins suck, Cowboys rule.” Mind you, I actually live in D.C. so you can imagine how much this can grate on one’s nerves.

I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....

by Rekka on Aug 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There’s a big deal at BTSC about being respectful when visiting sites that aren’t for the Browns. It has something to do with Dan Rooney once complementing the blog.

Also it’s quite clear that the Cowboys suck. I mean any decent Football fan can see that.

I myself though started being allowed to watch football in 1990-1991. I became a huge Redskins fan. I lived close enough to Pittsburgh though that I saw them more often. Both played great defense and ran the ball, so I became a Steelers fan as well.

I stopped following the Skins when D.S. trashed the team, and am patiently waiting in exile for the Skins to return to glory when either a new owner takes over or DS figures out how to be a good owner.

My two favorite players remain Darrel Green and Rod Woodson. Those two just killed teams.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should also state that I have seen a higher class of fan debate on SB Nation across the board, it really is a great site.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

you just admitted to being a fairweather fan….
thats hilarious

by travisjh86 on Aug 24, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah right

I actually don’t know how to respond. I figured as soon as some Pittsburgh fan caught wind of my statement, I’d be lambasted with the usual Redskins rhetoric. Now I feel compelled to come clean and reveal that I was pretty much kidding anyway.

by CJHutch on Aug 21, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably more scared of his Offensive Line...

…a) they’re not very good and b) it was one of them who stepped on him and injured him!

by KiwiSteelerFan on Aug 21, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Max Starks, the multi-million dollar man, tried to block James Harrison, who drove him backwards into Ben.

So yeah, I’d be scared.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 22, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A few things to add.

Both our young DE’s have looked really good, so your second string O-Line should get a good test with Ziggy Hood, Chris Hoke (he could start on another team) and Ra’Shon Harris.

Last week we played a very vanilla defense, so you may not get to see a lot of blitzing, last week I think we sent 5 maybe 2 or 3 times the entire game, most plays were 4 man rushes.

Mendenhall is looking for a big game, he has struggled and looked hesitant, so he may be looking for a big game to secure his 2nd string spot.

Lastly your DB’s will get tested all game. This is not a typical Steeler team with no WR depth, we have 3 #3 receivers and the guys behind them have played well too. With Dixon playing well you will get to see some tough assignments for your 2nd team defense. The backups at O-Line and RB have impressed too.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

I’d like to seriously hear your serious reasons why Batch isn’t a good back up in the NFL.

by Johnny_S on Aug 21, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are two kinds of "good backups"

One is a QB who you are comfy with coming off the bench in a relief role or to pick up where an injured starter left off mid-game.
The other is a guy who is capable of being a multi-week starter, up to and including a full season depending on when the starter goes down ‘for good’. Not every backup in the league fits both of these categories.

I think Batch is GREAT at coming off the bench but I don’t think he is a guy who can be a difference-maker over a long stretch of games. Defensive coordinators proved they could shut him down when he had the chance to be a starter in other cities. Yet coming off the bench, he is smart and experienced enough to execute/finish off a game plan with the luxury of the knowing the opposing defense spent a week preparing for Big Ben. What he has in Pittsburgh though that could prove me wrong is a stifling defense and commitment to the run.

Just my two cents. All that said, who thought Todd Collins would come in and lead the Skins to the playoffs two years ago? Not me.

by Ken Meringolo on Aug 21, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Charlie Batch has only started for one other team, Detroit, and had a passer rating of 80ish while he was there. Please don’t confuse his ability with Detroit’s. The stink of that city may never wash off of his clothes, but he is a high quality QB. he wouldn’t be in Pittsburgh, even as a backup, if he wasn’t.

His record with the Steelers is 3-1 (the sole loss being a week 17 meaning less game in 07), he’s got a 3.4% sacks/attempts rating (lowest by far of any Steelers QB ever), his PIT passer rating is 87.5, compared to 89.4 for Big Ben, and his yards/completion are better than any Steelers passer since Bradshaw.

I’m not sure he could put up 4000 yards in a 16 game season, but his mobility, decision making, and arm are good enough to win, thats for certain.

Guns don't kill people. Lamar Woodley kills people. (mattyc_77 on twitter)

by BostonWahoo on Aug 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We love the classy old QB’s for backups in Pittsburgh, and Charlie is like an extra coach.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your backup isn't Neil O'Donnell?

Batch is a good temp but like others said I don’t think he could fill in for a long period of time, the same goes with Dixon.

How is Mendenhall looking?

by pas493 on Aug 21, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you know that Dixon is not either?

No one has seen anything of him in the NFL besides preseason, where he played damn well last week. Any conjectures you are making on Dixon are based on college…where he played damn well as a senior. How do you know he would not be a good back up?

There have been no good arguments made (with any sort of proof) that Batch and Dixon are bad back-up options.

by Johnny_S on Aug 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax man, I wasn’t bashing anyone and what am I not allowed to have an opinion? Dixon did look well last week and did have a good senior year before he was injured. But his junior year he threw more picks then he did TDs. He did a lot of things with his legs in Eugene that I don’t think he can get away with in the NFL.

Do I think Dixon or Batch could get it done in a spot start? Absolutely

Do I think if Big Ben went down in the first couple of weeks that Batch and Dixon could carry the team for 12 to 14 weeks? No, I think Leftwich would be a better fit.

How do I know he won’t be a good back up? I DON’T, thats why I said I THINK.

by pas493 on Aug 21, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is fired up?

You will see curses when I am angry or enraged.

You are entitled to have you opinion, but on that same field, I am entitled to refute it, especially if its a “well I just think” argument.

Dixon decided to become more of a pocket passer his senior year, that’s why his numbers and his team (prior to injury) greatly improved. His junior year is rather irrelevant while looking at his style of play now.

I am one of the biggest naysayers of the Wildcat or a running QB (just go ask around BTSC) and I still think Dixon is a good QB. I have not seen anything that would lead me to believe he would opt to leave the pocket quickly.

I think I would take Dixon over Leftwich, based on Byron’s sloooooow release and our O-lines ineptitude at giving the QB time.

by Johnny_S on Aug 21, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batch was on the IR for all of 2004 and 2008, plus he was knocked out for the year in the 2001 season. Given your o-line issues, are you not worried that Batch is going to go down? I would be…he is getting older and has had knee issues too. Dixon an option as long as he is not asked to throw a lot, which is the trend now with young qbs. Ryan(17 tds/11 ints) and Flacco(14/12) did okay last year with that approach and PIT has the run game to limit his throws (note the high td/int ratios). What would hold dixon back is that he has not faced NFL defenses, which is critical to being successful. Being the number 3 qb last year means he did not get reps with the first team, like the number 2 does. This limits his transition from college to the nfl game, you dont develop the ability to read defenses nor do you practice going through your reads quickly….he would be learning on the fly. Preseason games against the 2nd and 3rd units are helpfu, but they are not nfl speed.

by liger99 on Aug 21, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Isn’t everyone worried their QB will go down? That’s kind of a pointless QB. Even if you have the best OL in the league it’s still possible (See Brady last year). I also fear that Ben will go down, but that really has no bearing on whether he is a good QB or not.

The second half of your post you just listed stuff I already knew. I know he has not gotten any reps against a 1st team. However, in the opportunities he has had, he has surpassed my expectations. He has shown great presence in the pocket. The game against you should be good, hopefully him and Batch split snaps against your first team D. It would be a great display of a “what if” Ben goes down situation for us.

by Johnny_S on Aug 22, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't

I think I would take Dixon over Leftwich, based on Byron’s sloooooow release and our O-lines ineptitude at giving the QB time.

understand this comment. I know it was precluded with the infamous “I think”, but still. Leftwich already proved he could come in and win for you. To tell you the truth, I think he was more responsible than anyone for you guys whupping our ass last year. The game was a defensive stalemate before he came in for Big Ben.

Now, don’t get me wrong, I like Dixon. I was kinda hoping the Skins would end up with him in the draft. But he is an unknown. AND he’s from Oregon, which hasn’t exactly had the best luck with it’s QB’s transitioning to the NFL. Not lately anyway. So the argument that Dixon “would have been a 1st rounder if…” doesn’t hold much weight. I think he was better off coming in less heralded than Akili Smith and Harrington, therefor not battling that pressure along with everything else a rookie has to endure.

by CJHutch on Aug 21, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. Dixon > C. Brennan.

So there, write him up for he Hall. He should be starting already.

by Phantaskippy on Aug 22, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't know

if I’d say that either. As was said before, all you have to go on from Dixon is college production at this point. And if you’re using that, I’d say Colt’s college #’s stack up pretty damned well.

Again, I’m not saying Dixon is NOT better. I’m saying there’s no way to know right now.

by CJHutch on Aug 22, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I would take Byron in the 1 game, subbing in mid game situation. However, I would take Dixon over Byron for a long haul. But then again, I still haven’t seen Dixon make reads against a 1st team, so my argument is just an opinion.

by Johnny_S on Aug 22, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK

I can go with that. I feel the same way with us. If JC goes down mid-game, I think Collin goes in. But if he’s out long term, you’ve gotta go with the Wild Thing. And just hope that this Colt isn’t a Fall Guy as well.

by CJHutch on Aug 22, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

few teams if any, have this at the back up spot
but I don’t think he is a guy who can be a difference-maker over a long stretch of games.

by smutsboy1 on Aug 24, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Batch

Is a very good back-up and will be enough of a test after the debacle last week.

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Aug 22, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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