New Washington Redskins' DE Jeremy Jarmon Wanted to be a Redskin All Along

by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 1:13 PM EDT in Interviews Comment 32 comments

FILE - In this Nov. 15, 2008, file photo, Kentucky defender Jeremy Jarmon knocks the ball out of the grasp of Vanderbilt quarterback Chris Nickson during an NCAA college football game in Lexington, Ky. The Washington Redskins figure they got a bargain by taking Jarmon in the third round of the NFL's supplemental draft Thursday, July 16, 2009. And Jarmon figures he gets an early jump on his professional career after being declared ineligible for his senior season by the NCAA because he tested positive for a banned substance. (AP Photo/Ed Reinke, File)

4 months ago: FILE - In this Nov. 15, 2008, file photo, Kentucky defender Jeremy Jarmon knocks the ball out of the grasp of Vanderbilt quarterback Chris Nickson during an NCAA college football game in Lexington, Ky. The Washington Redskins figure they got a bargain by taking Jarmon in the third round of the NFL's supplemental draft Thursday, July 16, 2009. And Jarmon figures he gets an early jump on his professional career after being declared ineligible for his senior season by the NCAA because he tested positive for a banned substance. (AP Photo/Ed Reinke, File)

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Kevin Sheehan interviewed newly acquired Washington Redskins DE Jeremy Jarmon this past Friday. They cover the day of the supplemental draft, his strengths, what went wrong with the failed drug test, missing his final year at the University of Kentucky, the four overtime game against LSU, and dinner with Dan Snyder and Coach Zorn in Aspen, Colorado.

"Cerrato told me, 'We want you you more than other teams.' I woke up yesterday morning [the day of the supplemental draft] saying I want to be a Redskin, so I sent Mr. Cerrato a text saying 'I want to be a Redskin.'"

I play with good leverage. I'm quick. I have a good body type to lose and add weight. Skins told me I'll have a chance to play DE and DT.

Jeremy Jarmon also met with the Eagles owner and Coach Reid leading up to the draft. Jarmon said he knew after meeting with Coach Zorn and Dan Snyder that he wanted to be a Redskin.

It's easy to dwell on the mistake signings from past free agents, but this is another move where you can see Washington is taking steps in the right direction.

Vinny Cerrato's tactics have become a lot more visible with the amount of players he has picked up with "questionable" off-field behavior. J.D. Skolnitsky and Jeremy Jarmon both were acquired from failed drug tests, which having heard their stories truly do seem like a simple mishap. Cody Glenn and Robert Henson both had been suspended by their respective collegiate teams, but their work ethic has been impeccable to date, which Hogs Haven learned first hand. It's easy to forget that these are kids. However, signing a veteran wide receiver to a multi-million dollar deal while publicly stating he's trying to revive his rap career, that's a different story. Cough. Brandon Lloyd. Cough.

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Role Model

Good guy to have learning under Haynesworth, who also plays a mix of DT and DE.

by SSBlitz on Jul 20, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If Snyderrato ends up drafting DEs as well as the Giants have, I will be a happy guy.

by smutsboy1 on Jul 20, 2009 2:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Who wouldn’t want to play for Dan Snyder? You’re all but guaranteed to make 3x worth your value.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 20, 2009 3:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well...

In Philly, you make 1/3 of your value…which is why they can’t get over the hump to win a super bowl.

by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ring ring...

“Hi, DeAngelo? Dan Snyder here. Here’s the deal… I know that 2 really bad teams completely gave up on you in less than a full calendar year, in much the same way a dejected gambler cashes in his lone $2.50 chip at the end of a long night of playing blackjack in a crappy Atlantic City casino. I also know that’s there virtually no interest in you throughout the rest of the league… Well, maybe there’s some interest I suppose, but nobody that’s going to pay you anywhere near what you stole in Oakland. But you know what? Vinny and I… Well, Vinny and I need to keep overpaying our players so that we can point to the lofty contracts that justify the price hike in ticket sales every year. So DeAngelo, how does 6 years, $55 million sound?”

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 20, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I know Snyder has made some awful, overly expensive deals in the past. But I don’t think DeAngelo Hall is going to be one of those bad moves. The guy is a 2 time pro bowler.

Can you really take any personnel decision Oakland makes with any kind of confidence? And Atlanta couldn’t afford Hall any more. You can’t tell me when Hall came to Skins last year that he wasn’t a very productive player in our secondary.

by pas493 on Jul 20, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DHall

You claim he sucks only b/c he’s not on your team….

http://www.yardbarker.com/forum/3/57/discussion/DEANGELO_HALL_ANYBODY/154699

The $23 mil bonus isn’t coming out of my pocket….yea, Skins have a reputation for over-priced free agents, but at least they’re not in their 30 or 40’s this time around. Go ahead..throw to his side…we’ll see what happens. If he can shut down TO…you dont think he can handle the Birds’ 5’5 113 lb WRs? Kevin Curtis is the big question mark…I’ll be curious to watch him play during training camp.

by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Come on, KevinE

I was expecting better out of you… Something like “Ring ring… Hello, Mr. Reid, it’s the police. I have some bad news about your sons…” …and so on.

But OK, let’s bring it back to football, I guess. First of all, let me say how disappointed I am in the knucklehead Eagles fans you found on yardbarker. They certainly weren’t speaking for me or any of the other educated Eagles fans out there. In fairness, the guy that wanted Hall doesn’t look very smart…

Here’s the thing I love about DeAngelo Hall…

If he can shut down TO

From Hall’s wikipedia page…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeAngelo_Hall

One of Hall’s finest moments came when he was assigned to one of the NFL’s premier wide receivers, Terrell Owens of the Philadelphia Eagles, on Monday Night Football. Although Owens gained 112 receiving yards, Hall was able to stop Owens on many of the Eagles’ third down attempts, and his tight coverage of Owens on the last Eagle possession of the game helped Atlanta clinch a 14-10 victory on September 12, 2005.

So one of his “greatest moments” is giving up 112 receiving yards?

And a few of your other points…

Go ahead..throw to his side…we’ll see what happens.

If throwing to his side is anything like what Eddie Royal did to Hall the first time Royal ever stepped onto an NFL field, then sure, we’ll throw over there all day.

The $23 mil bonus isn’t coming out of my pocket

OK, fair enough, but this isn’t baseball (and I hope I don’t need to explain any further).

5’5 113 lb WRs

They’re 5’7, 126, jerk.

Kevin Curtis is the big question mark

Maybe, maybe not. Frankly, if he is, it’s not really that big a deal. The receivers on this team go 6 deep.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 20, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DHall

You’re really going to throw up stats of DHall at Oakland? Look at how laughable Oakland has become and even before they got to that point, Warren Sapp had been preaching it for some time. In fact, Sapp advised people to avoid OAK at all costs. Denagelo is out and, focused, and doing well.

by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not throwing up any stats for Hall… I’m just saying he was routinely beaten like a rented mule.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 20, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He may be an instigator...

… but when he puts up pictures of Eagles fans at their finest and talks about rented mules I still chuckle.

by Boo. on Jul 20, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you mentioned eddie royal...

DHall has only played against him as a Raider

by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wikipedia is a very credible source, way to do your research

by pas493 on Jul 21, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks. Oh… Wait, I know that tone… that’s sarcasm. Pas493, you rascal… almost had me.

Wikipedia or not (and who doesn’t love wikipedia?), the point still remains that a game in which he gave up 112 yards is his shining moment. Did KevinE not reference it?

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 21, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Geez

I only mentioned it b/c you referenced it first…nice try. Why don’t you talk about DeAngelo’s play as a Skin last year..which is what matters. Look at what Randy Moss did in Oakland..you going to say he sucks too??

I digress. What happened to the Eagles corners in the games at Dallas, Baltimore and Arizona. They gave up a combined 110 points. Oh…and then there’s the 36 points the Giants put up at the Linc. You should be worried about your D…not ours. Skins didnt give up more than 27 all year.

by KevinE on Jul 21, 2009 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Since you asked…

Baltimore game… Sure, the score was 36-7, but the secondary was hardly to blame. They gave up a grand total of 138 passing yards.

OK, so they didn’t give up a lot of passing yards? They still put up 36 points though, right? They sure did… Let’s look at those scoring drives…

- After an Eagles turnover, 4 plays, 2 yards, FG.
- After an Eagles turnover, 3 plays, 6 yards, TD.
- After yet another Eagles turnover, 6 plays, 27 yards, FG.
- 3 plays, 60 yards, TD (the only scoring drive that began in Ravens territory).
- Ed Reed INT return.
- 5 plays, 36 yards (all running plays), TD

It’s actually quite remarkable the the score wasn’t worse. The secondary played great.

Arizona games – Well, Arizona put up 235 passing yards on us during the regular season, and 267 during the playoffs. Considering they have the best receiving corps in recent memory, that’s not too shabby. Their passing yards per game in 2008? 292.

Dallas game – OK, Dallas lit us up. One game… out of 19… you could say the secondary had a horrible game.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 21, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As for Hall's play with the Redskins last year...

Sure, he played a hell of a lot better than he did in Oakland. Pretty hard not to… But it’s not like he was Deion Sanders out there, either. He certainly didn’t show me anything that would warrant a 6 year, $55 million contract. Can we at least agree on that?

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 21, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No doubt...

Hall is making almost exactly the same money Asante Samuel is I think. Skins could have got him for less for sure, but they didn’t want him hitting the open market. It is it what is…Skins will always over-pay…even if the guy turns out to be a pro-bowler.

by KevinE on Jul 21, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The truth of the matter

Most of us really don’t care how much these players get paid. It’s comical to me when trolls come to HH and talk about the money Snyder spends. The fact is that DeAngelo Hall was the best FA CB on the market this year and we really needed a great CB to replace Shawn Springs. As good as Springs played for us, he couldn’t stay on the field for a full season.

No matter how much you want to harp on a couple of bad games Hall had, where he didn’t happen to time his pick right, and ended up giving up a big play or two (playing on a team that is the cosmological equivalent of a black hole for NFL players), the truth is that DeAngelo Hall has the skill set to be an elite NFL CB and has proven that in Atlanta.

We were able to bring him in and try him out and see whether or not he was still legit. And he proved to our coaching staff (with decades more experience than you or I) that he is still legit, and that he fits nicely in our system. Personally, I’m really looking forward to watching him make it to his 3rd Pro Bowl this season. Especially since I know that some of his INTs will come at the expense of McGlass and his pipsqueak Eaglet receivers.

RAK EM UP!

by VA_Skin on Jul 21, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Like a rented mule...

http://replay-re-cutter.nfl.com/clip.aspx?key=7E361496428623B8

Also…

Most of us really don’t care how much these players get paid. It’s comical to me when trolls come to HH and talk about the money Snyder spends.

It ain’t baseball.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 21, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

More like a scapegoat...

1st play highlight: Hall’s fault. He should have stayed with Royal.

2nd play highlight (TD): Weak safety play. Hall went up to cover Stokely, Wilson (# 28) should have fell back and played Royal tighter.

3rd play highlight (punt return):</em> Not even relevant to Hall. Next.

4th play highlight: Royal made a nice pre-snap move and caught Hall off guard. Happens to the best.

5th play highlight: Hall clearly slipped in the replay.

After the last drive recap…

6th play highlight: That’s on Hall. He gave Royal too much space.

7th play highlight: Poor safety play again. Wilson should have picked up Royal when he saw Hall step up to cover Stokely on the screen option.

8th play highlight (reverse): Hall stayed in coverage like he was supposed to and Eddie Royal was forced to throw it out of bounds.

9th play highlight: Royal wasn’t even Hall’s assignment on that play, he was deep in the backfield.

I can’t wait to watch the rematch this year when Denver comes to Fed Ex. My bet is on Hall shutting Royal down. Orton couldn’t carry Cutler’s jock strap and he won’t have all day to eat a peanut butter & jelly sandwich while going through 6 progressions like Cutler did against Oakland.

It ain’t baseball.

No it ain’t. It’s professional football with a hard salary cap. A hard salary cap that we stay under year in and year out, and still find a way to bring in the biggest names. So what does it really matter?

RAK EM UP!

by VA_Skin on Jul 22, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

I didn’t make the video. It was an Eddie Royal Week 1 highlight tape, so pointing out plays where Hall wasn’t responsible is kind of pointless. That said, Hall was absolutely abused in that game, and I’m seeing a lot of weak excuses on the plays in which he was beaten.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Jul 22, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Re-cut by byedawk?

That’s not you?

I’m seeing a desperate attempt to cover over the fact that DeAngelo Hall is a 2-time Pro Bowler who’s gonna be picking off NFC East QBs for years to come.

RAK EM UP!

by VA_Skin on Jul 22, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs