Should the Redskins be Looking at Former Chiefs CB Patrick Surtain
Good morning Redskins fans. I'm coming here from Arrowhead Pride to give you the lowdown on former Kansas City Chiefs CB Patrick Surtain. There's been some talk, or Tweets, that Washington should be taking a look at Surtain to provide some depth at the corner position.
What we do know is that, as the Washington Post reported, the Redskins have not contacted Surtain. There's also a rumor floating around that the Denver Broncos are interested in his services.
A quick search on Arrowhead Pride shows we've talked about Surtain. A lot. He was the topic of many conversations over the past year. However, it usually wasn't a good thing. 42 days after Scott Pioli was hired as the Chiefs new GM, Surtain and a number of other over-the-hill veterans were given the boot.
The move can be viewed one of two ways. A) Surtain was a salary cap casualty as he was due $7 million in 2009 and this netted us $6.184 million in cap space (like we need it) or B) he's a 33 year old corner who couldn't win his job back from rookie and 5th round draft pick Brandon Carr. My take? A combination of both. There's no doubt Surtain has lost a step but then again his salary was set to be one of the highest on the team.
What can he do for the Redskins?
After the jump we detail his tenure with the Chiefs and his current status >>>
At this point, he's solely a role player. His starting days are behind him and signing him should certainly be considered a risk. He appeared in eight games last season and only started two. He also appeared on the injury list 11 times. Things like injury don't usually get better with age particularly when you're in a position predicated on speed.
I talked with your fearless leader, Kevin, a little bit about the 'Skins corner situation. Two starters locked up, a capable veteran and a third round pick behind them. If you want my opinion, Surtain should only be in Washington if you're worried about injuries to your current crop.
Then again, he can provide another important component of the offseason preparation. I'll quote our former soundbyte machine head coach, Herm Edwards: "Competition. It's a good thing." The more competition you can create, the better. Creating competition at every position is the hallmark of a Bill Parcells/Bill Belichick regime. In that aspect, Surtain would be worth signing as training camp fodder.
Surtain's tenure with the Chiefs
When the Chiefs signed him in 2005, we were one year removed from a 13 win season and in the middle of one of the best three year stretches of offensive production in NFL history. Surtain was viewed as a savior to one of the worst defenses in the league. Jason Whitlock of the Kansas City Star famously claimed Law's arrival would result in a Super Bowl appearance for the Chiefs (He also said the Chiefs should Jeff George....about two weeks ago).
His first season with the Chiefs was more in line with his career average, snagging four picks and batting down 12 passes. After that, the decline started. If he started his dip in statistical rankings three years ago, don't get your hopes up that this will change in '09. It probably won't.
To recap: He's older, battled injuries last season, has lost a step in a position that requires an extra step and couldn't win his job back from a 5th round rookie.
Here's a few places on AP where we've talked about Surtain:
July 9th: Is the depth of the secondary a concern with the loss of Surtain?
July 8th: Are the Denver Broncos looking at Surtain?
February 24th: Chiefs release Surtain
February 6th: Chiefs salary cap situation: Surtain most likely casualty
December 15th: Video: Surtain takes back an interception for a touchdown
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Geez..I had no idea his injuries were that extensive
After hearing all this on Surtain…I don’t think he’s worth even the league minimum. Skins have some depth in their youth with Justin Tryon, whom I would trust more dropping back in coverage. I can’t see Surtain keeping up with any of the WRs in the NFC East.
by KevinE on Jul 16, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's mostly just last season
But those things don’t get better with age.
by Joel Thorman on Jul 16, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin Tryon
I really hope he’s not the next Ade Jimoh…
RAK EM UP!
by VA_Skin on Jul 16, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Tomahawk here from Arrowhad Pride also
Surtain def. does not have it in him anymore . The guy has no speed at all..he was run down at the 1 yard line by Phillip Rivers after intercepting him and hes the man that got beat deep to start the Chargers crazy comeback to beat us at Arrowhead..Great write up Prime!
by tomahawk44 on Jul 16, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice write-up
I was worried that he would be just good enough to be overpriced, and just old and slow enough to not be worth it. Typically these are the players that are in our freaking wheelhouse and we sign. But what the Skins need to do is develop Barnes and Tryon and they are already somewhat buried behind Hall, Rogers, and Smoot. So I say no, but if this guy is available in Week 6 or 7 still and someone on our squad goes down, he is probably worth a look to keep some depth on our bench.
by Ken Meringolo on Jul 16, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously?
Assuming Surtain was league minimum…you’d want him out there over Tryon? Given Joel’s writeup and tomahawk’s comment, it would be more effective to move Albert Haynesworth to cornerback instead.
by KevinE on Jul 16, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Hitter
I always thought P. Surtain was a big hitter and not much of a cover guy.
by Elaw6 on Jul 16, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With his speed (or rather lack thereof)
the only guys he’ll be hitting will be the opponent’s offensive linemen as they mow his ass down on a screen play.
Marley will be walking soon...she could probably play Linebacker better than some of the guys we had.
by PVChiefsfan on Jul 16, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Thanks for the write-up, but I was never worried about him coming to the Skins. I’m happy with our depth at cornerback, especially with the new young guys J.T. and Kevin.
by SSBlitz on Jul 16, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't
even know we were looking at him, but I think it would be absurd to sign him. For what we would use him for, it doesn’t make sense to sign a high priced veteran. At best, he would be the 5th corner. I think Barnes will work himself into the mi, maybe even jump ahead of Smoot. Who knows how Tryon will do, but I can’t imagine him covering any worse than a 33 year old broken down CB. I don’t see any reason to sign Surtain, or any other vet CB unless 1 or 2 injuries pop up.
by CJHutch on Jul 17, 2009 8:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We're not looking at him...
Just a ‘what if’ scenario
by KevinE on Jul 20, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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