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Redskins Continuity: Gibbs & Zorn Spend the Day Together

Jim Zorn took up Joe Gibbs Racing's offer to spend a day at the tracks with the Hall of Fame Coach down in Charlotte. The two coaches spoke about family, Redskins' football, and of course, Jason Campbell.

Regarding if JC was treated like the red-headed step-child during the very public Mark Sanchez/Jay Cutler soap opera:

"I have a different outlook on that," Gibbs said of shopping the quarterback he had plucked from Auburn. "At some point you're going to have to take the team down the field in a driving hailstorm to win the game. If you get all uptight about stuff as the quarterback -- if (trade rumors) is something that bothers you -- you're in the wrong position."

Gibbs thinks Campbell's hardship is similar to previous QB's he coached:

"You gotta realize an NFL quarterback is going to go through a lot -- all the ones I coached did," Gibbs added through that wheezing laugh of his. "If it wasn't (Mark) Rypien getting benched in the middle of a season, it was Joe Theismann technically going to get benched. Or it was Doug Williams going through two teams and coming here when everybody thought his career was over."

Gibbs on Zorn's legitimacy as a coach:

"I think he has a good feel for the job and where he is," Gibbs said of Zorn. "He understands coaching. He understands where he is. I think that going through that first year, I know what that was like for me. I mean, he wound up in the same spot I did -- 8-8. The second year, you're more settled."

Gibbs on whether he has any regrets coming back to DC for a second go at coaching:

"In life, you get an opportunity you take it," he said. "It was important for me to come back. I felt like it was the right thing for me to do. I think it was the right time for me to leave. I took my best shot and went after it.

"The four games we won after Sean (Taylor) died was the most unbelievable coaching experience ever," he added. "How that team came together and got into the playoffs, man, just unbelievable."

I've read all of Gibbs' comments multiple times trying to dissect the truthfulness in them. I suspect the REAL conversation went more like this:

Zorn: Coach. I am really in a pickle here! The entire fan base wants Campbell to QB this team, but I'm the only one that knows he can't run this offense.

Gibbs: If you look inside your heart, and talk to Jesus, you will find a way.

Zorn: What made you trade up to get this QB? Sure, he never lost a game at Auburn, but he had Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams in his backfield. They would have won all twelve games if they had the drummer for Def Leppard under Center!!

Gibbs: Boy! I'll tell ya! That drummer really plays his guts out. His faith in God must be at a level we all need to be at.

Zorn: The only level the drummer has is a Blood Alcohol Content level....and it's probably higher than the amount of points we're scoring a game.

Gibbs: I really give it our guys. They really fight hard!

Full Article: [WaPost]: Zorn Joins Gibbs for a Day at the Races

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Maybe i shoulda mixed in some fake Cincyboy or Bye Dawk?

yea, not my best work…especially since Zorn is warming up to JC…it’s just the big push to get Cutler/Sanchez still baffles me. (not that the FO looked into it, that they were trying so hard)

by KevinE on Jun 24, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

confusion

The media driven Cutler/Sanchez pursuit seems to baffle everyone.
What confuses me more is the Redskins went after BUT did not obtain Cutler and Sanchez. If the pursuit was as eager as the press described then how did Money bags Dan not land one of the two QBs.
The next thing you’ll hear is the Redskins going after Farve, already been there!
IMO the Redskin’s FO believed that Cutler and/or Sanchez are better franchise QB then JC, but not all around better to throw all the money and whatever towards them. They explored an opportunity but the opportunity was not right for the price,
I hate to compare people to cars, but I would really like to have a BMW Z4 motorsport, not that anything is wrong with the BMW bottom line 325 which gets me everywhere I want to go plus…It would be nice to have a Z4, Every Z4 which becomes available I take a look and see what they want and at the right price I would go for it. This is not a lack of confidence in the 325 or the performance of the 325 but….Could it be the same for QB?

by dr WNC on Jun 24, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, all good points

I guess my frustration is they treat their current BMW 325 like a Ford Festiva. It is what is. Cutler I get…but the Sanchez one baffles me…it’s like "give me $150K and there’s a 50% chance behind this curtain is a Mercedes E-class and a 50% chance it’s this car.

by KevinE on Jun 24, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The media sure thinks that Sanchez is going to be a stud and that it was a fantastic move for the Jets. You know if he came the skins that they be calling it one of the worst moves of all time (they would be comparing him to Shuler every other sentence). Even when Sanchez struggled in OTAs the media gave the caveat that Ryan intentionally dumped the entire playbook on him to inspire him and that any rookie QB would struggle with that.

by liger99 on Jun 24, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard from some chick he did in a shower a few years ago that he has “Sanchez” tattoo’d inside his bottom lip.

by SSBlitz on Jun 24, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good points. I agree.

When Cutler is surprisingly available on the market, it only makes sense to see what it would take to get him. So I fully believe Danny did his due diligence in Denver.
But I think with Sanchez, it is more media escalation than warranted interest. We all know how much bloggers (ie Florio) can jump to conclusions based on little to no evidence. The fact that Snyder went after Cutler made for an easy assumption that he would also go after Sanchez. I’m sure Snyderatto did their due diligence again, as they would with most players, but any shown interest was just to inflate his value in the draft (to get Brian Orakpo to fall, as I posted pre-draft).
And as sugar mentioned before the draft as well, no team (not even run by Snyderatto) shows zealous interest in a player they actually want to draft.

by SSBlitz on Jun 24, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Orakpo Theory

Is a very good one, with only minor interest played towards him by the Redskins, everything fell into place for the Redskins to draft the best defensive player available in the draft.. Sanchez, may not have been all smoke screen but enough interest to spark others to make a move….possible

by dr WNC on Jun 24, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The two coaches spoke about family, Redskins’ football, and of course, Jason Campbell.

They also talked about god. Lots and lots of god.

Zorn is godsquad just like Gibbs was.

by smutsboy1 on Jun 24, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“He understands where he is.” = “Zorn knows he was bad last year.”

by liger99 on Jun 24, 2009 11:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can't think of anyone else

I would rather Zorn spend his time with.

RAK EM UP!

by VA_Skin on Jun 24, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good move Zorny

There’s no downside trying to be on Gibbs goodside. With Joe in his corner saying he’s doing fine, fans will be a little less likely to call for his head if this season goes down the crapper…or at least wait an extra 2 games.

by fat pete on Jun 24, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

http://www.firejimzorn.com/

I guess it’s good that there hasn’t been a posting since Dec 2008!

by KevinE on Jun 24, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

around week 8 I felt foolish for supporting that site.

around week 16 I felt more justified again.

by smutsboy1 on Jun 25, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coach Z

Coach Z will have an steep uphill climb because the owner and upper management are focused on soaking the redskins fans for every nickel they can get and the management are a bunch of yes men; this team needs a good gm, (JOE GIBBS, DUH! at least make the offer!). Coach better win at least ten games and go deep into the playoffs or else he is outta here! GRUDEN or SHANAHAN waiting in the wings!

by big robb on Jun 26, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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