Summing up the Philadelphia Eagles in the 2000s (Flow chart)
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 15, 2009 12:21 AM EDT
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PrintAs we all know, Hogs Haven likes to make fun of people. We've done Romo, our own Vinny Cerrato, and now we direct our attention to the Birds. I'm not trying to one-up our other posts, but I thought this was definitely good enough to fuel some trash talking. I've been saying for years that the Eagles really pooped the bed not giving Donovan McNabb better weapons. I think this flow chart sums it up properly (click to enlarge):
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* - Before the Eagles' fans blow up the comments section, let me add a foot note here. I actually sent this flow chart to a great friend of mine last week, who happens to be a season ticket holder for the Eagles. His first reaction was this flow chart is crap because of DeSean Jackson. My response, "Well, follow the line, it ends in another NFC Championship loss." Not only that, DeSean is only one WR. Great teams don't win with one good WR. I of course brought up Todd Stinkston Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell (yes, those 2 WRs on the Super Bowl roster). No rebuttal there. The Eagles had a chance to get Anquan Boldin earlier this year, and they passed instead drafting Jeremy Maclin. My same friend pointed out that no stud WRs have come out of the Big 12 the last ten years, which worries him. Roy Williams certainly has mad skills, but he has yet to really be that big impact player. So yes, DeSean Jackson is a great player, but how good would he be without McNabb? It doesn't matter. The Eagles have had 7 playoff appearances this decade and of course no Super Bowls. It's pretty safe to say the WR position has been the weak link.
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T.O. was really the only legitimate WR threat the Birds have had this decade. And what happened in his first year there (before he ripped the locker room apart)?? They made it to the SB for the first time in 25 years! McNabb had the best season of his career that year (2004), and the Birds went 13-3 and clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs. I’m not saying it was all T.O., but it showed how having a top 10 WR helped McNabb and the Birds get over the top.
RAK EM UP!
T.O. helped us get to playoffs
not the superbowl. in fact, the ONLY post-season game he played in was the superbowl. And obviously, we didn’t need that much help getting to the playoffs considering we already do that rather consistently.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jun 15, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So which is it? If the Eagles didn’t need that much help getting to the playoffs, did T.O. help you get to the 2004 playoffs or not?
When it comes down to it, thought, it really doesn’t matter. It still doesn’t negate the fact that Eagles only legit WR this past decade was T.O. Hell, T.O. even helped Freddie Mitchell look like a real WR.
Ok, let me rephrase it so you can understand
first off, every player helps get a team to the playoffs so yes, T.O. helped us get to the playoffs and played a big part in being 13-3. All i’m saying is that he didn’t help take us to the superbowl through the playoffs because he didn’t play. Therefore, he didn’t help take us anywhere that we werent already regular visitors.
I’m not disagreeing with either of you in the matter that a having a top 10 WR could get us over the top. I’d love it. But for whatever reason, our FO loves to draft receivers instead of buy them. It just frustrates me when people say that T.O. got us to the superbowl when he actually didn’t (it’s very tough for me to let anyone give such a dbag that kind of credit when it’s undeserved).
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jun 16, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
We all despise T.O.
I’m sure if we had a poll on HH about who the most hated NFC East player of all time was, T.O. would probably be in the top 5. However, T.O. was the primary reason McNabb had the best season of his career in 2004, completing 300 out of 469 (64%) passes for 3,875 yards, 31 touchdowns, and 8 interceptions. He was instrumental in Philly finishing the season 13-3, clinching the NFC #1 seed, and thus having home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.
RAK EM UP!
All i’m saying is that he didn’t help take us to the superbowl through the playoffs because he didn’t play
T.O. is obviously a douchebag, but you acting like he didn’t help the Eagles through the playoffs and into the 2004 Super Bowl is naive at best.
You must think it’s a coincidence that McNabb had his best season ever. Look, T.O.‘s presence that season without a doubt improved many of his teammates play, most notably McNabb. T.O. helped give McNabb a confidence he had never had (and hasn’t had since), and it’s not like that confidence just disappeared in those playoffs… although, it started to wane in the Atlanta game where he “only” threw for 180 yards and 2 TDs.
So please, pretty please with sugar on top… stop deluding yourself into thinking that just because T.O. is an ass he didn’t help his team while not on the field for two playoff games.
That's a stretch
and silly. To assume it was T.O.‘s sideline presence (when he wasn’t even getting along with the team) is what drove us to the superbowl is a bold statement. The eagles played without T.O. against the two best teams in the NFC in the two very important games and won as the Eagles. Give mcnabb some credit. give the 2004 defense credit. yea, mcnabb had a great season because he had a great receiver to throw to. And that great receiver demanded double coverage therefore opening other talented receivers. I’m sure i don’t have to tell you, but those things inflate everyone’s numbers. It doesn’t summon talent. T.O. didn’t motivate the team into having some miraculous clairvoyant epiphone. He was sidelined. He contributed nothing. You can call mcnabb’s numbers “confidence driven by T.O.”…. i’ll call it talent + opportunity.
Eagles.
by #1EaglesFan on Jun 17, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Back on point
Look, T.O.‘s presence that season without a doubt improved many of his teammates play, most notably McNabb. T.O. helped give McNabb a confidence he had never had (and hasn’t had since), and it’s not like that confidence just disappeared in those playoffs…
superjuan is saying that T.O.‘s presence on the team DURING THE SEASON raised everybody’s game that season, which carried over into the playoffs (the word “sideline” wasn’t even in his comment). That’s not a stretch, it’s a FACT. Having home-field advantage during the playoffs as a result of the McNabb/Owens combination helped also. McNabb is a really good QB and your defense was solid that season. But without quality offensive weapons like T.O., your Eagles have not been able to duplicate the success of that season. They’ve come close, but they always fall short and they always will until Lurie/Andy & Co. bring in an elite FA WR or someone (DJ?) steps up to fill Owens’ shoes. If that doesn’t happen in the next couple of years, then it really won’t matter because McNabb will probably be gone and Kolb couldn’t carry McNabb’s jock strap.
RAK EM UP!
actually we really only duplicated the success of the previous seasons w/ the ’04 season…we were 12-4 w/ home field in the ’02 and ’03 playoffs. The only difference was the one extra win on our reg. season schedule.
I’ll give you that there was confidence in our WR corps brought on by T.O., but the fact of the matter is T.O. wasn’t on the field for 5 weeks. Which means the other teams, Minn/Atl, didnt have to shadow/dbl team him in the playoffs, and he didnt help us win the NFCCG..That would have been Dawk destroying Vick/Crumpler, haha, sorry had to say it.
So that is where the animosity comes from when you try to say that T.O. got us to the super bowl. All it shows is that w/ a dominant WR our offense is rediculous and were are capable dominating teams. Hence we agree that we need a no. 1 WR to win the big one, but don’t need T.O. to get to the super bowl. Insert any dominant No. 1 WR into our offense and we are an incredible team.
Also, Mcnabb always had confidence, T.O. didnt give it to him or bring it out. No man w/o a lot of confidence smiles that fkn much.
Lastly, i dont know how other Eagle fans feel, but is it too much to think that if Macllin turns out to be as good as he’s supposed to, that both Jax and Mac can’t fill the whole of a dominant no. 1 WR? Two really good wr could be the equivalent of a dominant 1. Not sayin right away, but by the end of the year goin into next year. While Mcnabb is stil at the helm. The two of them bein really good and the role player wr that we have on this team, i.e. Avants solid hands, our WR corps will be the best we’ve ever had for Mcnabb. Much better then T.O./insert name here.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 17, 2009 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
The only difference was the one extra win on our reg. season schedule.
Not to mention an NFC Championship, a Super Bowl appearance AND McNabb’s best season ever.
Sorry but the Eagles did not “duplicate” their previous season… unless you think they won all those NFC championship games prior to the 2004 season.
Insert any dominant No. 1 WR into our offense and we are an incredible team.
Five years ago? Maybe… I would add that the Eagles needed a true #1 RB as well.
Today? Nope… their McNabb window (two years at most?) is closing fast and they still need a real fullback and tight end. The offensive line changes also throw a question mark on their chances in that short window.
And while I don’t know enough about the Eagles defense, I remember them being inconsistent last year… either being a wall or giving up a bunch of points at inopportune times.
Also, Mcnabb always had confidence, T.O. didnt give it to him or bring it out.
Please. Prior to 2004 McNabb’s passer rating never broke 86. He was an average QB with a strong but inaccurate arm whose running abilities had to be respected.
In 2005, when T.O. left, McNabb stopped running and his passer rating dropped to 85. His passer rating has been higher since but I would credit a lot of that to the emergence of Brian Westbrook as a runner more than a receiver. (Prior to that Westbrook had split his yards fairly evenly between receiving and rushing.)
To put things simply, McNabb isn’t the type of player who elevates other’s play, he is the type that is elevated by others and thus a lot of his confidence is predicated on others.
No man w/o a lot of confidence smiles that fkn much.
I’ve worked with more than one person who smiled a lot when they didn’t understand what was going on. It seemed to be a coping mechanism, so needless to say I wouldn’t equate smiling with confidence.
I would add that the Eagles needed a true #1 RB as well.
Brian Westbrook is only one year removed from a 2,000+ yard season. If he’s even slightly healthy, he’s better than 90% of starting NFL RB’s. Check.
their McNabb window (two years at most?) is closing fast
2 years is a long time. If McNabb still has it, he’ll get a new contract. If not, we’ll likely part ways.
they still need a real fullback
Signed Leonard Weaver. Check.
and tight end.
In the Eagles 4 playoff games last year (if you include the Dallas reg season finale), Brent Celek had 22 catches, 181 yards, and 4 TD. Plus, they drafted a nice looking TE, Cornelius Ingram. Check.
The offensive line changes also throw a question mark on their chances in that short window.
Peters, Herremans, Jackson, Andrews, Andrews – Pretty much unanimously regarded as one of the top 5 units in the NFL. I’ll also note that Shawn Andrews and Jason Peters were roommates in college, and I THINK Shawn Andrews and Stacy Andrews also know each other pretty well. Concerned? Not even a little. Check.
And while I don’t know enough about the Eagles defense, I remember them being inconsistent last year…
3rd ranked defense in the NFL.
Prior to 2004 McNabb’s passer rating never broke 86. He was an average QB with a strong but inaccurate arm whose running abilities had to be respected.
QB rating… “The idiot’s guide to football.” John Elway’s career QB rating – 79.9.
To put things simply, McNabb isn’t the type of player who elevates other’s play, he is the type that is elevated by others and thus a lot of his confidence is predicated on others
Honestly, I read that 4 times, and I have absolutely no idea whatsoever what you just tried to say.
I’ve worked with more than one person who smiled a lot when they didn’t understand what was going on. It seemed to be a coping mechanism, so needless to say I wouldn’t equate smiling with confidence.
I’m smiling thinking about the 2009 season.
I won't bother w/ the rest of your post
But we DID duplicate the ‘02 and ’03 seasons with T.O…..outside of the 13th win. We were first seed in the playoffs in all 3 seasons. T.O. did not play in any of the playoff games, just the super bowl, which we lost. So he he did not win the NFCCG for us! He didnt get us over the hump, the team got over the hump despite not having him in the playoffs. Then he was a big distraction and played in the Super Bowl. Since we did not win the big one, he didnt help the Eagles do anything they hadn’t done w/o him.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
For some reason or another you don’t understand how, or don’t believe that, a good/great player can improve another player’s confidence and play… especially after playing and practicing with them for an entire season.
I can assure you that this “push” does happen and that it doesn’t disappear immediately once you don’t play a few games with them. (I guess, if you were unsure of your own skills in the first place it might disappear the second you stop playing with them, but that’s another discussion in itself because I don’t think McNabb is THAT weak minded.)
I guess it comes down to this: if you really don’t believe in the “push”, or you believe that the “push” disappears immediately then there is no reason to continue this discussion.
First off, from my first post, i believe mcnabb has a lot of confidence. So, no, i dont believe his confidence was truly raised by T.O. I think its obvious Mcnabb knows what he’s capable of it and that you just have to give him the tools to get it done.
Secondly, i do believe there is a “push” that you get from having the talent that T.O. was, on the field with you, but he wasn’t on the field for 6 weeks w/ the Eagles. That’s not exactly a game or two. The Eagles had already been to the NFCCG 3 times, they had been there before, i.e. they didnt need T.O. to get them there. So you’re gonna tell me after not playin w/ T.O. for 4/5 games, that the “push” that T.O. gave the other WR’s was still fresh. No, it wasn’t. What was fresh in there minds was that they had one the division game w/o T.O., so they didnt need him on the field for them to get over the hump.
You wanna tell me they had there chests puffed out a lil further w/ .T.O. lined up across the field, hell yah they did, and anyone would. But, you can not tell me that they still had their chests out because T.O. had been apart of the team in the regular season, when they played that NFCCG. He hadn’t played a single playoff game for them.
So, If you truly believe that, you’ve got your head deep in that burgundy sand. Play any sport, when one of your best players goes down, there’s either a let down or a picke me up. Obviously the Eagles picked themselves up and believed they had enough to win w/o T.O. on the field. Hence, they won in spite of T.O. not because of him.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 18, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Secondly, i do believe there is a "push" that you get from having the talent that T.O. was, on the field with you, but he wasn’t on the field for 6 weeks w/ the Eagles. That’s not exactly a game or two
To be exact it was three games… one of which every important starter (including McNabb) pretty much sat out. So calling it two games isn’t that off.
But, you can not tell me that they still had their chests out because T.O. had been apart of the team in the regular season, when they played that NFCCG.
That’s exactly what I’m saying because if they lost that “swagger” after not having T.O. for a pair of playoff game, then I would have to believe that the 2004 Eagles were much weaker minded then you or I believe.
Obviously the Eagles picked themselves up and believed they had enough to win w/o T.O. on the field.
While I agree that their previous experience in the NFC championship game helped, I guess you’re forgetting that they lost each of those games. Sorry but you’re being naive in thinking that T.O. “push” didn’t have anything to do with helping the team get over that hump.
I’ve been doing pretty fair assessments of the NFC East teams’ strengths and weaknesses (and other concerns) over at Bleeding Green Nation.
Here’s the Cowboys…
And here’s the Giants…
Guess who’s next… And you know what? It’s clear as day who the weakest team in the NFC East is going into the season.
Reid and Romo choke the same exact way
they are the two biggest chokes that the media makes excuses for..
Reid?Romo play the regular season one way..then the playoffs another
Andy Reid is 10-7 in the playoffs...
What’s the Redskins’ playoff record during Reid’s tenure.
Thanks for playing.
Great Chart
I like that chart you have put together. It’s very clever. I can’t wait until the NFL season gets going, I’m ready for some football!!! I just want to put it out there now: THE REDSKINS WILL BEAT THE GIANTS IN THE OPENER!! 21-13
which franchise has made the playoffs more? Eagles or Skins
if you dont know then I’ll be happy to give you the answer
From Richmond to the District
skins 22
eagles 21
you can now return to watching repeats of VH1’s I love the 80’s and reliving your glory years.
I’d rather watch NFL network, they are recapping the Redskins sweeping the Eagles last year this afternoon
From Richmond to the District
HOF
Redskins 17 Eagles 9 but there is one thing I don’t understand Sonny J is under both teams as a HOF’er I know in went in as a Redskin.
alot of those
are becasuse the redskins execs headed the voting when the hall was first introduced,
& it’s 23-17 if you include everyone, & Sonny J is under both, but if ur counting people who only played for one team its 17-9, but players like Reggie White still count, so their are exceptions, & i don’t feel like going threw & seeing which players who played for several teams, should be on which teams list
http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.html
by sports00fan00 on Jun 16, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Of all the days to be late to the party
You Philly fans showing up today…I love it. It’s the middle of June and everybody’s a contender and we get to argue about football. Also, we beat your asses twice last season. And it was AWESOME! You guys collect Championship losses like Philly girls collect crabs.
We may not have been playing in the playoffs, but getting to watch you lose in big games has become a bit of an annual tradition.
by Ken Meringolo on Jun 15, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Break Down
Division Champs Redskins 12 – Eagles 11
League Champs Redskins 5 – Eagles 3
Super Bowls Redskins 5 – Eagles 2
Super Bowl Wins Redskins 3 – Eagles 0 aahhh that hurts don’t it!
As I said earlier scoreboard
care to explain to me what exactly a league championship is and how that is relevant to today’s game here in the 21st century.
well if you were a football fan then i think you could stop being a dick and probably figure out that by league championships he meant conference championships… so either you are just that dumb or you decided to be an ass once again
From Richmond to the District
to tell you the truth i thought they were trying to reference winning some sort of league championship from before the superbowl was around. I apologize but my biggest pet peave with any team, any sport is “See I have proof team X is better than team Y, a championship trophy from 1963”.
If they were referring to conference championships wouldnt that be the same thing as Superbowl appearances?? If you are talking about pre-superbowl than what the hell are you doing?? Like I said above how is anything before 1966 relevant to today’s game??
Actually, forget that question. Forget all this crap. I regret posting here even more than I do in the now infamous “Interior Offensive Line” thread. I am going to like my team. You are going to like your team, but I am going to be stuck living in the same city as your team where the QB taking a dump is page 1 news so I am going to inevitably end up here posting/discussing color/size/shape with the rest of you animals. Deal with it.
You are going to like your team, but I am going to be stuck living in the same city as your team where the QB taking a dump is page 1 news so I am going to inevitably end up here posting/discussing color/size/shape with the rest of you animals. Deal with it.
Wai-wai-wai-WAIT. You sound like when you log on to your PC every day, one of the only 3 possible options in this infinite matrix network of billions and billions of website destinations is Hogs Haven. If you really didn’t like it, you wouldn’t be here posting (PERIOD). But you do like it and I think deep down inside you are a closet Skins fan…
COME ON OUT MAN – THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE !!!
At least admit that, right now, you are wearing these:
If so, you will probably be interested in one of these.
RAK EM UP!
the Eagles have been to the super bowl twice, so we only have 2 nfc championships, not 3.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 15, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
League championships
Are different than NFC championships. It was before there was an AFC and a NFC.
by RedskinCali63 on Jun 15, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
gotcha…so you’re talkin bout 48, 49 and 60…thought you were goin w/ conference championships in your post….my bad.
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 15, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
It is
what it is. We lead you in every category there is. The Redskins and Eagles have met a total of 147 times over their long rivalry, which dates back to 1934. They have played a home-and-home series every year since 1936.
The Redskins hold the series edge at 76-66-6
Once again Scoreboard
by RedskinCali63 on Jun 15, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The Redskins and Eagles have met a total of 147 times over their long rivalry, which dates back to 1934.
again… whats with your obsession with the 30s?? You guys were a great team, no one can take that away from you. Something else no one can take away from you…. BEFORE 1992 THERE IS NOT MUCH OF A CASE BETWEEN WHO WAS A MORE SUCCESFUL ORGANIZATION. SKINS HANDS DOWN. Unfortunately, since than things havent went your way.
We lead you in every category there is.
Except, recent history. Since the Skins last superbowl championship the Eagles have won 21 of 32 total meetings including 2 seperate stretches of 3 year sweeps (02-04 + 93-95). Please dont make me break down playoff apearrances, overall record, and yes… NFC championship games.
Ok so I Broke it down for you.
Reg season Redskins 537-494-27 Eagles 488-530-26
Post season Redskins 23-17 Eagles 19-18
Playoff Appearances Redskins 23 Eagles 19
Super bowls Redskins 3-2 Eagles 0-2
So once again Scoreboard.
And at least when we go to the championship game we finish it unlike you. At least Buffalo got there Four times.
Plus you guys have been around for all 43 Superbowls and the Panthers,Buc and Seahawks have one less trip there than you do and have not been around 43 like you and the Buc’s won it! You don’t have a leg to stand on here so take your ball and go home.
Oh Yea did I say scoreboard.
by RedskinCali63 on Jun 15, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh and by the way
The Eagles are the only team in the NFC east below 500 yea thats right a losing record.
NFC title games Redskins 5-1 Eagles 2-4
Dam this is getting old SCOREBOARD!
by RedskinCali63 on Jun 15, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Congrats...
The Redskins were good a loooooong time ago. Awesome. Good for you.
Let’s take a look at this decade…
Eagles – 92-51-1
Redskins – 66-78-0
26.5 games behind.
(In a douchey voice)… “Scoreboard!”
I hope
it is Rak who breaks McGlass this year becaues we all know he is going down just like Bye, Dawk :( at his all boys high school prom.
What's that?
Your 8th lame gay joke on this thread?
The card please… (audience anticipation) Ladies and Gentlemen… The SportsNation Homophobe of the Year… RedskinCali63!!! (clapping and champagne corks popping)
hey now…lets not be wishin injuries on people….
Last time i checked the last body bag didn’t go so well for you guys…..gonna bring back brian mitchell to play qb??
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
?
Redskins won the rematch in the playoffs getting buddy ryan fired. Then won the SB the following year. seems like it went much better for us. Andre Dirty Waters cheap shots a kicker and is an Eagle hero. Compare that to Joe Gibbs.
i just meant the injuries in that game…..the point was not hopin ppl got hurt…
"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."
by greenbean#twoOH on Jun 15, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
at last week's Press Conference
McNabb kept saying I want to win a SuperBowl in “2” years
he was sitting right next to Reid saying 2009 is not their year… 2010..
they have been making excuses this whole decade..
The bottom line...
Until Andy and Co. decide to pay their deserving players and give McNabb the legitimate WR threat he needs, [the Philadelphia Beagles] will always be perennial pretenders. Signing McNabb to an extension was a step in the right direction and D. Jackson may now be that WR threat. We shall see.
But if Snyder has proven that you can’t BUY a Superbowl, Jeff Lurie has proven that you can’t WIN a Superbowl if you aren’t willing to pay players what they deserve and bring in the personnel [their] team needs to win.
RAK EM UP!
You need 2 WRs tho
DeSean Jackson and who else?
Reggie Brown? Bust.
Hank Baskett? Too busy doing reality shows with Kendra (I would be too).
Greg Lewis? Bust. I actually thought he was gonna be a stud.
Kevin Curtis? Maybe…coming off a broken leg is tough tho.
Jeremy Maclin? Odds are against him going from Mizzo to NFL.
Boldin would be a nice fit. It woulda cost them the pick they used for Maclin and a 3rd right?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 16, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Whooooaaa... Lots of problems here...
Reggie Brown? Bust.
Granted, 2008 was awful. And not to make excuses for him (because again, 2008 was awful), but he did have 816 and 780 yards respectively in 2006 and 2007. He’d be extremely useful as a 4th or even a 3rd receiver.
Hank Baskett? Too busy doing reality shows with Kendra (I would be too).
No arguments there.
Greg Lewis? Bust. I actually thought he was gonna be a stud.
He’s gone. We traded him to the Pats. As for the “bust” moniker, he was an undrafted free agent. Are we calling undrafted free agents busts now?
Kevin Curtis? Maybe…coming off a broken leg is tough tho.
He didn’t break his leg. He had a sports hernia, missed 6 games, and was hampered by it for most of the season. He’s only one year removed from a season in which he racked up 1,110 yards. I’m perfectly happy with him as our 2.
Jeremy Maclin? Odds are against him going from Mizzo to NFL.
That’s just retarded. If you’re gonna throw out a statement like that, please also include the phrase “…and I base that on absolutely nothing.” I’m not saying he’s going to be a stud like Jackson was his rookie season, but to just dismiss him is ludicrous.
Boldin would be a nice fit. It woulda cost them the pick they used for Maclin and a 3rd right?
Almost more importantly, it would have cost them about $10 mil per season for an aging vet that has taken his fair share of big hits in his career.
“I don’t see it. Fact is, there haven’t been many big-time prospects out of Big 12 schools”
Seriously? There are a TON of great players from the Big 12, especially on the defensive side of the ball and the O-line. Texas alone has 43 alum playing in the NFL. I think APeterson has made a pretty big impact also. The Big 12 is right behind the SEC in producing quality NFL players, the schools that run the spread just does not translate to the nfl and nor do the QBs and usually the WRs
So if I can summarize
Redskins fans – “Redskins are better b/c they have 3 Super Bowls”
Eagles fans – “Eagles are better b/c they have been much better in recent years”
So, in summary, you all agree the Giants are the best team in the NFC East?
I begrudgingly agree...
The same way Mets fan have nothing to say to me (a Phils fan), I pretty much don’t have anything to say to Giants fans. Their SB Championship is WAY too recent and their team is still way too good to talk too much shit.
However, the Cowboys (with no playoffs wins) and the Redskins (with a .458 winning %) this decade have been pretty much irrelevant.
Bingo
Hopefully some retarded Cowboy fan doesn’t jump in with “We have 5 Super Bowls!”
by Kevin Ewoldt on Jun 16, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The G-Men
Are the best in the east. Until someone knocks them off. They have owned us for awile years now no argument.
by RedskinCali63 on Jun 16, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think
it really matters what conf-or school a WR comes from it’s all about can they play in the NFL. It is the second hardest position to learn in the NFL next to QB.
This is unbelievable
What’s up, skins fans. Always respected your team.
But how can anybody argue with NO SUPERBOWLS. NO SUPERBOWLS.
NO SUPERBOWLS. NO SUPERBOWLS. NO SUPERBOWLS. NO SUPERBOWLS.
How can there be any more discussion? NO SUPERBOWLS. NO SUPERBOWLS.
I can’t believe anybody here dignifies “Bye, Dawk:(” with responses. He’s the worst troll I’ve ever seen at BBV, constantly personally insulting people and making illogical, ad hominem, childish rants.
Your content is great, but the comments would be better if you never, ever replied to any comment he ever made. Like I won’t, when he says something stupid about this post.
Pop quiz: Which NFC East team has never, ever, ever, ever won a Superbowl and never, ever, ever will?
Good luck this year Skins. In a (my) perfect world you’d be 2nd in the NFC East every year!
You play to win the game!
by Simms-McConkey on Jun 22, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
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