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Minicamp Coverage: Observations and Interviews from Redskins Park

Well, Sugar and I have arrived at Redskins Park. It is wet as can be but practice is still on. We're blogging from the media room now adjacent to the main complex. Jason LaCanfora and David Elfin are here. We're about to head out to the field now so we'll keep you posted on the action with this thread.

Update 11:43am - So the day just ended and we got to talk to several players after practice including Heyer, Randy Thomas, Mike Williams, Brian Orakpo, and Renaldo Wynn. Zorn spoke to the media for 5 minutes afterwards. We'll post the full details with audio and pictures tonight. I am still soaking wet at this point and have yet to eat.

Sugar:

Seen and heard on the sidelines in our waterlogged media group: I spoke to Homer McFanboy's Brian Murphy about who has been standing out among the non-roster guys invited to participate in this session. Kelley Washington was mentioned by all as a guy who has been standing out, perhaps even as a guy who could finally unseat James Thrash on this roster. We shall see. JLC and I spoke about James Thrash also, as I wondered aloud if Justin Tryon would make this team, and if his spot would come down to a choice between him and Thrash. Matt Terl (Redskins blogger) is the man by the way. He doesn't big-time anyone, and he was one of the more soaked individuals on the sidelines this morning.

As for the actual practice, who did I see that stood out: No doubt...it was Fred Davis. I swear it seemed like he was a man among boys out there on some plays. He caught everything I saw thrown his way, and he worked with the first-teamers in 11-on-11 drills. If we can get him and Cooley on the field together in the red zone, I just don't know who is built to stop that kind of firepower. Kevin Barnes, our new rookie corner, did not look that great in a few one-on-one matchups. He seemed to be getting burned by some no-name guys too. Ultimately, you would expect a guy in his spot to open rough I guess, but it was probably not one of his finer days in cleats.

I was looking for Colt and in 11-on-11 drills he delivered two sidearmed throws in a row, to the ground. He made some other good throws underneath, but I wonder what the coaches think about his delivery. When Zorn was asked about Colt later, he said he had a "MUCH stronger arm already than last year," and indicated that last year at this time, he was still dealing with the labrum injury, so he is much farther now than he was last season.

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Coach Zorn also said that he liked the flash that Robert Henson showed today and this weekend (Henson is an early Hogs Haven favorite). Otherwise, he said the veterans are much farther along in general this time around in his second year and that the coaches seemed a little more comfortable, too.

We had a chance to get some facetime with a few players, and here are some of the things we got from them:

Andre Carter, on playing linebacker: "Been there, done that..." Didn't sound like he was going to be volunteering for any snaps at LB anytime soon.

Chris Samuels, on how healthy he is: "Almost 100%, not there yet."

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Randy Thomas, on Jason Campbell's offseason saga and how he has handled it: "Stayed poised. You would never know anything was going on. Not one time was I thinking someone else was the quarterback. That's all media talk. "

Randy Thomas on free-agent and draft speculation: "Well, we're always involved in everything right?"

Randy Thomas, on the age of the offensive line: "They say we're old. They will keep saying it until we win a ring. We've been together for a while...we were old when we were 28. We gonna stay old until we win a championship."

Mike Williams, on what he missed most about being out of football. "Competition. I'm a competitive guy." He did not look 400 lbs...I'll be honest, he was working hard and he looked like a tank.

Brian Orakpo, on playing linebacker vs defensive end: "Space. You play in more space as a linebacker." He talked about playing linebacker at Texas and he was practicing with the linebacker group today.

I think the other real notable event of the day was a play in which Fred Smoot, in NO pads, laid out Marques Hagans. They were both going for the ball and I think Hagans even caught it, but Smoot knocked him down pretty hard. From the other side of the field, we could all hear Smoot hooting and howling, as he made his way back to the defensive huddle.

Kevin:

Coach Zorn said Devin Thomas' hamstring injury is nothing to worry about, and he'll be fine. 

Just to continue on the Colt topic, Zorn added that he still has a decent amount of learning to do with the playbook/system. JC was definitely the most accurate passer out there today, which without doubt quells any "start Colt now" feelings. 

Fred Davis did stand out, and Coach Zorn was all giddy about him in the post-practice interviews. I asked Zorn about Jansen, and he said positive things mentioning how they worked him out as Center today, which David Elfin covered. I have the impression that Heyer will win the competition; however, I asked Zorn this direct question and he humbled me replying that the competition does not begin until they get into pads and can really compete. Makes sense.

We talked to Stephon Heyer after practice, and he was confident he would be a major contributor this year. I asked him specifically how is the offensive line going to improve when the Redskins are basically fielding the same guys as last year (who gave up the 10th most sacks)? He replied that they need to focus on their technique and running plays that benefit their strengths. 

Multiple people were talking about how great shape Phillip Daniels is in. You can tell by this picture (next to Andre Carter) he is the biggest guy out there. The roster we received has him listed as 6'4" 276 lbs, which is definitely not accurate since Albert is listed as 6'6" 320 lbs. (Phillip is clearly taller than Albert). If I had to guess now, the Skins' starting front four will be Phillip, Andre, Hanyesworth, and Griffin. Very impressive. Orakpo when we talked to him said he's already learning a lot from London. He's worked all minicamp with the LB crew so his role is becoming clearer. Orakpo is listed on the roster as 6'4 which isn't accurate either. I'm 6'2 and he was the same height as me at most. His build isn't suited for a full-time DE, so the Skins are going about this the best way I feel.

Another player that stood out was Domnique Dorsey, the RB the Redskins signed from the CFL. He showed great hands and in multiple plays showed a stellar burst through the secondary. Sellers and Rock also were showing good hands in the bad weather.

Mike Williams is absolutely a guy you want to root for. I tried to get out of him what his exact diet is, but he wouldn't go into specifics. The most important thing was eating at the right times (ie - no late night snacks). Kelli Johnson asked about Mike Williams, and Coach Zorn replied that he was working by himself today on the sleds. Zorn drew a laugh stating, "We were doing our things on the field when we heard this really loud noise coming from his area...he was crushing the sled." A handful of players hit the weight room after practice, and Mike Williams was one of them.

Randy Thomas is another great personality. I asked him multiple questions on how much JC audibles, and I did not get much of a direct answer. From what I gathered, for the most part, the play comes in and they run it.

The kickers did not work out at all really given the pourous conditions. When I looked over to their side of the field, this is what I saw:

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I could not stop laughing at this view. I was like, "Who is this midget coach?" Turns out it is Coach Danny Smith's kid, who got some field time today. Look how all the players are so focused on whatever he's saying! Good times.

As Sugar mentioned, the media folks that have been in camp all weekend were impressed with Kelly Washington. The Skins offered him a contract, but he is going to wait until after the Ravens camp hoping to get a better offer. The Washington Times found this fantastic TD celebration he did as a Bungle

 

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Fred Davis

I am glad to see his is standing out last year I remember hearing at the end of the year the whole coaching staff was very happy with his progress good to hear that is all still improving. I wound love to see this guy lined up in the slot. Plus he gives Jason a big target.
Long Live Jason!

by RedskinCali63 on May 3, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I especially like

Randy Thomas: "Not one time was I thinking someone else was the quarterback. That’s all media talk. "

and the PFT report that Kelly wasn’t at practice. I’m trying to gauge how much of what they report is accurate. Maybe 10%.

by SSBlitz on May 4, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

One Practice

Have a few questions for those who watched, the rain shortened event.
1. Kevin, Feeling better about the offensive line or same concers are still there?
1a. Williams as the RT? A unmotivated guy who has failed twice before and is destined to fail again or a solid possibility?
2. Any concerns if Orakpo remains at LB, with the current set of Defensive lineman in Camp. Specifically, old and washed up (to quote others) Wynn, Daniels and Carter…and includes solid backups or not with younger guys.
3. No Practice players: Kelly was talked about missing practice all week, I assume he was held out of some events.
4. Alridge, any signs

by dr WNC on May 4, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Practice...

1.) I’m still concerned. The line lacks quality depth, so if we endure no injuries, then great, otherwise…gonna be a long year. If the old guys struggled down the stretch, why wouldn’t they this year too? A week 8 bye week is great for us (versus like a week 4).

1a.) He told us he’s a competitive guy, but my first thought is competitive guys don’t let themselves go like that. Too early to tell if he’ll make it or not…if I had to guess I’d say no. I just don’t think he will be able to deal with training camp, the heat, the running being out this long. The weight is one thing, the conditioning is what Im worried about. Next year perhaps.

2.) No concerns at all. Blache’s D revolves around the front line holding the line and the LBs taking over. Orakpo will be playing DE on 3rd and longs so he’ll get some good sack opportunities. Andre Carter is in fantastic shape. I told him “I’m quoting you that you guaranteed 20 sacks this year.” He laughed, but I expect good things from him. Renaldo Wynn is in amazing shape as well which I just read he credited to the Giants organization. They’re definitely do something right over there,so next time I talked to Renaldo I’ll ask what they do differently there. Everyone was in great spirits on this team….

3.) I could have swore I saw Kelly out there yesterday but everyone else claims he wasn’t. Must have been someone else wearing his 12 jersey I guess. Zorn said all the WRs will be fine, no need to get worried.

4.) Redskins might be signing Jeremy Bridges, OL and they signed Trent Shelton to a 3-year deal (Insider).

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 4, 2009 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to clarify-Questions were all in curiosity, not a lack of anything in the reporting.

Overall it was a GREAT Synopsis of the day, it’s great to have Hogs Haven Reps as media at practice events and the such, I believe we are getting a real feel for the situation, instead of biased reporting…

1. A valid concern about the line
2. Excellent thoughts on Williams…although here’s to hoping he finds new motivation and makes it this year, or at least the 2nd half of the year.
3. A special Defense…indeed! Whoo-hoo!

by dr WNC on May 4, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

No problem...

The media thing is new to us, so we’re learning as we go…haha. Sugar is actually putting together a post on our experience on that…we had quite a few ‘technical diffculties’…and by ‘we’ I mean totally me.

Yea, it’s tough to get answers with real substance since they’re mostly just working out with a football.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 4, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

dr....good questions

1) be careful what you ask kevin…he was nursing a bad hangover and had ZERO raingear!
1a) Williams best chance is as a depth guy all the way…I got the sense talking to him that he is enthusiastically pursuing making the squad, but when you are out that long, I think people expect you to blow them away if you are going to get that chance to suit up. Haven’t heard anyone that is blown away by him yet.
2) Orakpo is built like a linebacker. Kevin and I talked about this a lot during and after practice. Dr…this guy looks like the beast you expect, but in a slightly smaller package than you might expect it. I think he was listed as 6’4" and he did not look it at all. Andre Carter made him look like rather small indeed. At linebacker, I expect him to cause a ruckus. As a pass rusher, I expect them to line him up to take advantage of gaps created by Daniels and Haynesworth. (Haynesworth looked HUGE)
3) Not sure what kind of crack Kevin was smoking, but Malcolm Kelly was no practicing yesterday.
4) Bridges is signed I believe, and and looks to be really impressing the coaches.

by Ken Meringolo on May 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding point 2...

Yahoo Sports has Orakpo listed at 6’-3", 263 lbs., which would make Orakpo a HUGE OLB in a 4-3. But if he looks smaller than Carter (6’-4", 252 lbs.), then that info. must be inaccurate. Either way, at his speed (4.6 -40) and size, with room to get a running start playing OLB, Orakpo is gonna be knocking people out.

by VA_Skin on May 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone who's never played football, or paid attention to pre-season football...

What’s the significance of laying someone out while not wearing pads?

I played rugby for about 3 years and pads are forbidden (you’re not allowed to leave your feet tacking and you have to wrap up…)

by snowburnt on May 4, 2009 11:11 AM EDT reply actions  

dude...it was smoot

We Redskins fans have always known he is not afraid to get low and lay a hit on someone, but he still gets a rep as a non-hitting corner. This is mostly due to his size. For me, the big deal about this was just getting to see Smoot smack someone and then start dancing and hollering. That dude is a trip. He is not a quiet man.

by Ken Meringolo on May 4, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I saw him kill some guys while he was playing a nickel or dime role in the past few years.

Yeah, I love hearing him in interviews, he talks so fast.

by snowburnt on May 4, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks guys.

I’m sure it was pretty miserable out there.

by VA_Skin on May 4, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Miserable??

It might have been rainy and wet, but I’m thinking it was pretty interesting.

by dr WNC on May 4, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was miserable but very cool

It wasnt raining when I left my apt, so i only had a light jacket w/ a t-shirt underneath. When we got out there, It was raining sideways and cold…my jeans and head were soaked and i had zero warmth…haha, but it was all good. I was happy to be out there…the other media regulars couldnt get out of there fast enough…one even left early.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 4, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was interesting in that...

You get to see what the “media” does during these things. I mean, it was literally just like, 8 of us or so, counting the beat writers and cameramen. They stood in the rain and lamented life. I will write more in my upcoming column about it. As for standing in the rain and acting like I could tell who was really “standing out”…well, let’s just say Kevin Barnes and Fred Davis were easy pickings, and I stopped there.

by Ken Meringolo on May 4, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tryon

“as I wondered aloud if Justin Tryon would make this team, and if his spot would come down to a choice between him and Thrash.”

Did you see Tryon at the work out? I was just wondering how he is standing up to, say, Barnes, and the rest of the squad. Is his position on the team (guaranteed last year by his draft pick status, it seems) really in that much jeopardy?

by matthiasstephan on May 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

We asked about him

His spot is in jeopardy. I tried to take a picture but it didn’t come out b/c he was too far away. He is a REALLY small guy. The roster has him listed as 5’9". For Blache’s defense which requires corners to hold their man with one-on-one coverage, that makes Tryon a big liability since most WRs can get above him.

When we asked JLC about it, he thought the number of WRs they decide to carry could be a big factor. The way Barnes is playing now, they will need an extra corner. Barnes hasn’t played competitive football since early last season, and now he’s going against bigs, so being rusty isn’t a big concern for me yet. So to answer your question, it’s way too early to tell.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 4, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It answers it thoroughly.

He was my ‘Adopt-a-Redskin’ from last year, but I could never find very much on him. This may explain why.

I will feel bad if it is the system, and not just his talent, that could lead to him being cut. I understand it is all about finding the right personnel, but …

by matthiasstephan on May 5, 2009 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tryon is in trouble

He did not make a huge contribution last year, and one would assume that Barnes is already ahead of him on the depth chart, by way of his 3rd round draft pick status. Tryon has skills. But his size hurts him in this defense, as Kevin alluded to. I made the comment on the sidelines that a guy like him will get scrutinized around cut time because:
a) most people believe, rightly or wrongly, that he made the team last year because of Vinny’s New World Order Draft Strategy, where no matter who he drafted, they made the team
b) with the drafting of guys like Robert Henson, and the signing of guys like Kelley Washington (both players who should make our team as special teams starters), Tryon will most likely have to make it as a corner, and not solely on the merits of his special teams play.
c) he might not be better than a guy who gets cut this pre-season, and I see the Skins trying to bring in a veteran corner as teams make cuts.
For these reasons, I put the chances of Tryon making the team below 50% right now. Then again, I thought Sausage Pop Tarts was a slam dunk idea.

by Ken Meringolo on May 4, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Situation last year or something else?

Tryon, played in 14 games last year and as far as I can tell that is more games than any other rookie other than Horton. He must have shown some skills last year to make it on the field.
CB depth chart is not very deep…
25 Barnes, Kevin CB 6-0
24 Dutch, Doug CB 5-11
23 Hall, DeAngelo CB 5-10
22 Rogers, Carlos CB 5-11
27 Smoot, Fred CB 5-11
20 Tryon, Justin CB 5-9
34 Westbrook, Byron CB 5-10
How many CB’s does a team normally keep, guess would be minimum of 5…Tryon would be in that group of 5 unless Dutch or Westbrook are able to prove better players, although Westbrook couldn’t move in front of him last year. Just saying…

by dr WNC on May 4, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right...

He would be in that group. But if he doesn’t wow this offseason, I can see them bringing in someone from someone else’s cut list with more size. I could be wrong, and to be honest I hope I am, given my affinity for guys we draft ourselves.

by Ken Meringolo on May 5, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Kev-
now that you are officially part of the ’Skins press corps, when do we get hooks for special access???

Josh

by jdubz on May 6, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha..

I don’t think I’m even yet…I asked about coming back again and that wasn’t met to receptively. I think 3 friends have already asked me to get them jobs with the Redskins. What’s funny is we still are not “in” with them at all, but the fact they let us come to minicamp speaks volumes of great the Redskins organization. Many of the other SB Nation bloggers, like the Giants, are completely shut out of ALL activities, yet the Skins, who have their own blogger, let us in. Very Cool.

by Kevin Ewoldt on May 7, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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