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Washington Redskins Tampering Case Opened

Good news everyone...it looks like we now know who is in line to take at least one of our draft picks next season. I know it has been a real source of worry for many of you out there. I mean, with a full slate of draft picks on the board, you just knew something stupid was going to happen sooner or later. The best part of the Haynesworth deal--in my humble opinion-was that it didn't cost us any draft picks. If they can prove we tampered with the Tennessee Titans and their efforts to re-sign Albert Haynesworth, we can kiss goodbye at least one draft pick.

Oh man...are you kidding me?

Just when you thought it was possible to land a player with nothing more than $100 million, we get this story.  Are we really going to be busted for tampering? Something it seems that EVERYONE does. How do you get busted for tampering? Seriously. It is like getting busted snacking in the bulk food section. If they didn't want you to help yourself to the gummy worms, why would they put a whole barrel of them out there like that? Same with the chocolate chips, mini-Reese's, and Cheerios. The scoop is still mandatory of course. We're not animals.

This rule is absurd. The whole world knows the Redskins were talking to Haynesworth's agent before the free agency period started. It was reported Snyder and Chad Speck had dinner, but spent the whole night talking about Malcolm Kelly, another one of Speck's clients. Nobody, and I mean nobody believed that story. Even if it was technically true, there was still a whole exchange that went something like this:

Dan: Malcolm is going to be great this year. I can just taste it. He is so gifted. If he was like, 100 lbs heavier, and maybe played on the defensive line, I would be tempted to pay him $100 million.

Chad Speck: Yeah, Malcolm has been really working hard this offseason. If he was on the verge of free agency, he would be super interested in a place like D.C.

Dan: You don't say? I hear it is hard to leave a place like that. So nice down there. You're telling me that Malcolm Kelly, if he--hypothetically speaking of course--wore number 92 (cough, cough), he would keep his house on the market long enough to consider some out-of-town offers?

Chad: In today's real estate market, you would be hard-pressed to turn down something so absurdly over-the-top like that...what would you be looking for in the way of a home inspection? (wink, wink)

Dan: I am so confused right now.

Chad: Do you want to be gay with me?

Dan: Sorry, dude. I am already with Drew Rosenhaus.

 

How do they prove wrongdoing here?

Who is going to admit to wrongdoing?

Listen, if we get docked a draft pick for this, at least we can say that we actually DID something with the pick. Right? I mean, there will be an actual action that we can point to and say, "That was what that draft pick was used for." As opposed to having ZERO clue what we have gotten in return for so many draft picks over the years. What do you guys think?

 

 

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Unless someone admits guilt or has video/audio recordings (or is a helluva lip-reader), I don’t see how something like this could ever be proven. Now, I say that honestly not knowing the full extent of damning evidence against Snyder. If there are phone messages or emails (like the 49ers tampering case involving Briggs) or anything associated with that dinner that are considered to be in context with that dinner, then Goodell may decide to make an example of the King Cobra of free agency. After all, the NFL is an independent agency that can almost make it’s own rules as it goes (as long as those rules don’t conflict with the players’ CBA).

"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.

by VA_Skin on May 24, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

IF Snyder does get busted and we lose a draft pick

signing Haynesworth won’t bring me any peace of mind.

It’s kind of like Michael Phelps getting caught smoking from a bong. A lot of people do it and it’s really not a serious crime, but getting caught is absolutely stupid. Phelps had to know that somebody would be at that party with a camera or phone. Come on dude, show some pocket awareness. Snyder has unlimited resources and knows that other teams have been caught. Why not use some of those resources along with some common sense to avoid the limelight?

"The character of a person is in direct proportion to his commitment to excellence." -Vince Lombardi.

by VA_Skin on May 24, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

If we lose

a 1st or a 2nd round pick, in addition to paying Fat Albert $100 mil, I think that would be pretty bad.

If is a lower round pick, then I don’t think I would be too upset about it.

Bottom line- The Danny is a retard for even putting them in the situation.

by jdubz on May 24, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Spygate?

come on man…they were busted breaking the very rule that was instituted after the snowblower incident..the Kraft group knew doggone well that if there was a filming of signals for there use..there had to be one of their own..at the very least…

the Titans are now on the list…of weepy-eyed whiners that seem to be everywhere these days..they should have stepped up to the plate long before F/A.. if they wanted to keep him

by terpsez11 on May 27, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to even think this but

is this what Pats’ fans felt like with spygate? I know its not really the same but its pretty close.

Still…freaking Titans

by HustlerofCulture on May 25, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Other teams

IF the Redskins did tamper, which really means they talked to a player about potential services…not exactly “off the wall”. The question needs to be answered about the other teams which were interested in Albert, if it is to be believed how it went down the Redskins were actually out of the running and then got back in….

Historically, 1 case of tampering has occured the results: Loss of a 5th round pick and changing the position of the 3rd round picks…..I expect changes to occur in the system and less of a punishment if the Redskins are found to have talked to Haynesworth before they were allowed.

by dr WNC on May 25, 2009 7:36 AM EDT reply actions  

case has holes

I heard Czaban and Pollin talking about this a few weeks back. Part of their “evidence” was an interview on a “sports talk station”, which would be 980. Pollin says he did the interview, and it was with Rock Cartwright. He asked Cartwright what he thought about the prospect of getting Haynesworth, and Cartwright said he knows we want him, and it would be great. They said, and I agree, that this is very weak. I don’t see any way the league would take that as viable evidence. It’s heresay from a special teams player who has no say-so in the personnel dept. One thing that’s interesting: they also cited Cerrato as saying he would look at all options, including Haynesworth. I don’t see this as being an out-of-bounds statement. What’s funny is that Cerrato said it on his own show. Though it would suck should the team suffer from this ineptitude, it would be somewhat poetic if they did so because of Cerrato running his mouth on his OWN SHOW. A perfect example of why a GM (or someone posing as one) should not host his on program.

by CJHutch on May 25, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cerrato show is what scares me

That is one of those things where nothing good could have come out of it. They were begging for a problem from the outset.

by Ken Meringolo on May 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

penalty

Our penalty should be Cerrato stays off the air, whether they’re guilty or not. Actually, I’d be fine losing draft picks if it meant the ouster of ole “Bug Eyes” Cerrato. As fans, can we petition the league to make a ruling like this?

by CJHutch on May 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I have conclusive evidence...

Sugar is somehow behind this whole scandal!!

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on May 26, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

If I was an owner, I would tamper like there was no tomorrow. I would stay up nights just devising ways to tamper. My motto would be, “If you’re not tampering, you’re not trying”

by Ken Meringolo on May 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is

no holes here. You don’t negotiate a 100 million dollar contract in 2 hours. That said EVERYONE does it this is nothing new and if we do lose a draft pick for it, it is not going to be a 1st or 2nd round pick.

by RedskinCali63 on May 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

There is no

doubt that we are guilty, just as guilty as every other team in the league. What I’m saying is that their evidence is shaky. Of course, every other team somehow manages to do this without being caught. Leave it up to our braintrust (or lack thereof) to bungle their way through it.

by CJHutch on May 26, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

An agent can contact other teams prior to FA

It is not tampering for Speck and Snyder to meet and discuss Haynesworth as long as the agent makes the contact and they do not negotiate a contract. From what I have read the rules are that a player (no mention of the agent) cannot contact other teams to discuss a contract. Speck was free to tell Snyder what they would want in a contract under the rules, that is why they did not try to hide their meeting at all. I still voted 50/50 chance that the skins get busted due to the NFL wanting to make an example of someone and who better than the Redskins to put the screws to?

You should read this:
Agents CAN contact teams

Quote from article:
“As agents such as Rosenhaus have pointed out time and again, there are no rules that bar agents from talking to teams about players. The rules only apply the other way. It is only tampering if teams talk to agents about players.”

by liger99 on May 26, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Does this mean...

they have to become “super agents” like 007 to become stealthy and inconspicuous?

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on May 26, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at

it this way if we did Tampa Bay did they offered almost the same contract.

by RedskinCali63 on May 26, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

me thinks Tenn is just pissed they lost Haynesworth and they wanna see if they can get something out of this

by RedskinFan4Life on May 27, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

that’s EXACTLY what it is. They love taking a pound of flesh from us. Just like they did with Wilbur Marshall.

by CJHutch on May 28, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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