Kiper picks Sanchez for Skins

by JustinU804 on Apr 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT Comment 53 comments

Looking at Mel Kiper's latest mock draft on espn.com, he comes up with Sanchez for the skins. Of course, its based on the Skins stance of taking the best player available (and he believes if Sanchez came back for his senior year at USC he would be the number 1 pick). I cannot stress enough how much I disagree with this pick. Even if he's the best player available, its not something I as a fan could endorse. It likely comes mostly from liking Colt, and wanting to see him get a chance, I admit. The only way such a pick would be palatable, would be if JC were moved draft day for a second round pick or a 3 plus another pick or player dependent on position. Then we are forced to start all over at QB. I am completely in favor of letting your 1 rounders start off the bat, but because of Colt's familiarity with the offense (though USC runs a pro-style offense, so it could be a decent transition) should allow him to be the assumed starter. And with the hatchet always looming overhead, Colt would give Zorn the best chance to win now.

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Shortly after compiling his mock draft,

Kiper suffered a fatal heart attack after seeing his reflection in a mirror and realizing that a hair was out of place.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Snyderrato plan is working...

So after the Cutler/Leftwich debacles and working Sanchez out, it looks like people really do believe Cerrato would draft a QB with the #13 pick.

The odds of the Skins trading back just went up a few points since if Kiper believes the Skins would draft a QB, then so would some GM’s. If the Skins draft a QB round #1, I can pretty much guarantee Snyderrato and Zorn would lose the entire locker room.

by KevinE on Apr 9, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Man oh man

I hope that’s the case.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Apr 9, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I third that

but …Campbell can play..we’ve seen it..he does as well as the group around him..

I don’t feel all that bad about Campbell on the verge of Free Agency and a huge pay-day

by terpsez11 on Apr 12, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully all smoke

There’s no way they’re trading JC. Campbell is a smart and talented quarterback. Cutler is one of the top QBs in the league, so I can see why Snyder would see what it might take to bring him in. But I still think he’s behind Campbell. At least I hope so…

The one up side to this mock draft is that IF (strong emphasis), Sanchez falls to us, we will be able to trade down to pick up more picks. So…. Kiper might be right on at least the #. I’m still hoping for any of the USC LBs or an OT (though I’m not really sold on the mindset of any of them).

by SSBlitz on Apr 9, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JC

welcome to HH ssblitz.

Yea, we already tried to ship JC for a 2nd round pick (in the Cutler frenzy) and no one bit on it….so nothing should change on that front. JC has been working all off-season and has a year under Zorn’s offense…it makes no sense to bring in a new QB this year (rookie or vet). Burn a 1st round pick next year on a QB if they must. Man, is it just me or I feel like Ive been typing the same comments for 7 days now defending JC. Kiper is a ding-dong.

by KevinE on Apr 9, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kiper Dong

Thanks for the post promotion.

I do think I can agree with some of the consensus that Sanchez could go at this spot-just maybe not to the skins. There are several teams within about 10 slots who could certainly benefit from Sanchez, and should the Lions continue their draft retardation and not take Stafford with the number 1 pick, they could definately look to swap if he is available at 13. Beind us are still the Jets, Bucs, and Vikings…Bucs I could see moving up, and the Jets have a trade relationship with the skins that could benefit us here.

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 9, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cutler SUCKS

Check out the stats Kyle Orten has a better starting record.

by RedskinCali63 on Apr 10, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA....

This made me laff.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 10, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you Mel Kiper...

for not calling our bluff.

by VA_Skin on Apr 9, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

by KevinE on Apr 9, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lame. Why?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

What does ’this" mean? I thought you posted and forgot to type the rest of your sentence.

by KevinE on Apr 9, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"This"

is short for “I agree with this”.

Hmmm… yeah, I thought it was a little harsh.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You don't pass on him at #13.

You just don’t pass up that much talent at that point in the draft. You shop the pick and get as much value out of it as possible or you just bite your tongue and pick him. I wouldn’t be worried about it though, he’s not going to drop to #13 and somebody will trade up to get him before then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 9, 2009 6:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

On that note

if you trade down, you get more compensation than you normally would or else you keep him. But like I said, he’s not falling that far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 9, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're SERIOUSLY

overestimating Sanchez’s talent and Sanchez’s value, IMO….

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why?

He had a sensational season in his first season starting. All the experts consider him a top 5 talent. How am I overestimating his value? Top 5 guys rarely fall to #13 so if he’s there, you have to either take him or trade the pick for what he’s worth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 9, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This isn't

some QB like Jay Cutler or Eli Manning, who stands out as a fine college QB among a team full of otherwise scrubs. This is a guy playing quarterback with a ton of future NFLers. I could win the Heisman playing QB at USC against Pac-10 defenses — especially when you’ve got the top-ranked unit on the other side of the ball keeping your opponent’s offense from putting points on the board. Who are Matt Leinart and John David Booty starting for these days — wait, they’re what? They’re both backups?? Hmm… what are the odds?

Not to mention Sanchez’s sexual harassment allegations….

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 10, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

TG!

Not specifically directed at Sanchez, but every CFL player is an outstanding CFL player, which explains why they are drafted into the NFL however not every outstanding CFL player will become an outstanding NFL player.
The teams which rebuild through the draft are able to do it by having a large number of draft picks which improves the chances of finding good to outstanding NFL players from the CFL. Any team targeting the “flashy” CFL players will not be succesful, see Detriot.
Last year the Redskins had 10 picks all in the 2nd round or later, I am promoting the team again trades out of #13 for more picks, providing more opportunity, even is a Sanchez happens to be at 13…better to trade away for more picks then to take an outstanding player on an outstanding team which has not played a down in the NFL

by dr WNC on Apr 10, 2009 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't notice you without the normal picture.

Nice tribute though. Fine, lets pick Josh Freeman #1 overall since he played with a horrible defense and was kind of okay. He’s going to be the next Jay Cutler!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 10, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You're missing the point.

Well, I don’t actually think you’re missing the point, but your response would be, were it serious.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 11, 2009 6:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

*sexual assault

sexual assault allegations, not harassment. Rape….

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 10, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez

He lit up a lot of defenses not just Pac-10 NCAA plays one more game last year and USC is National Champs the whole country knows it.

by RedskinCali63 on Apr 10, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wait, you like USC?

and your name is RedskinCali63??? What a coincidence!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Apr 11, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He

light up any good defenses?

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 12, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez

has been in a pro-style offense and is ready for the NFL

Pete Carroll wanted to keep him at USC..for selfish reasons

by terpsez11 on Apr 12, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's why

Matt Leinart and John David Booty are tearing it up in the NFL….

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 12, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL-

USC QBs!!!

He wouldn’t be worth #13 $$$ to us- better to trade away if that’s the only option!! We are in no need of QBs from the draft- we picked one up last year that’s not bad… why would they want another?!?

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on Apr 13, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 15, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought Sanchez was picking up steam

If he is ready to play in this league, and Stafford goes first, I find it hard to believe that the second best QB makes it to #13. The Skins would love for that to happen so they could dance with the devil and have yet another bad decision staring them in the face, but I am guessing if a team trades up to grab him, it happens in front of us.

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Exactly

I don’t think this is even worth discussing. I doubt Denver would pass on him at 12, even if they do believe in neckbeard. He’s a perfect fit for Mcdaniel’s offense.

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by hibachi on Apr 9, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez

I don’t know what all the fuss is he won’t be there at 13 anyway. If the Hawk’s don’t take him the 49ers will.

by RedskinCali63 on Apr 10, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

49ers

will NOT draft Sanchez. They have invested too much in the QB position to trade up and sign him to the large deal he would already get. Seahawks are an option, but IF healthy, the hawks can hold off another year drafting high on QB or get Davis in a later round…he will need to time to learn anyway.

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 11, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hawks a strong possibility

First draft for boy wonder up in seattle, he may wish to make his mark with a “franchise QB”, one that will have a little time to learn behind Hasselback the no longer chosen QB. Ego’s tend to make decisions which are not always the best decisions.

by dr WNC on Apr 11, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seahawks oughta

trade Hasselbeck to Washington (and draft QB)..like the rest of the SeaHawks..he’s been hurt so much..they could stand a total facelift

by terpsez11 on Apr 12, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ah...

no they shouldn’t. Skins do not need another QB.

by KevinE on Apr 12, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

A-freaking-men.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 12, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kiper on ESPN Radio

He just said that he can’t mock the trades, but expects TB or the Jets to move down to the 7-9 spot to get Sanchez. He continued on to say that Sanchez will not make it past 13 and if the Redskins took him, it would be to push JC. He thought Jason needed to be inspired to play better and that it would be a positive sign if he showed some emotion during the game….and that the competition would bring that out.

by liger99 on Apr 11, 2009 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is crazytalk.

I’m clinging to the notion that this all a guise to trade back. It would make no sense at all to spend our 13th pick on a benchwarmer. Especially with our needs at LB and OL.

IF, for some reason, JC underperforms or is injured, we’ve got Colt next in line to experiment with.

IF (worst case scenario), JC, Colt, and Collins are all busts, then next year there are about 5 potential 1st Round QBs that will probably be available.

by VA_Skin on Apr 11, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Crazy like a fox

It’s hard to believe that this is a setup perpetuated by the front office but if Sanchez is available at 13 then who is left on the board at other positions? I’m not saying Sanchez would be the pick or a good pick but if he’s there then most of the players targeted by the Redskins fans are gone…Smith, Oher, Cushing, etc…Just saying

by dr WNC on Apr 11, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Matt Mosley talks about Kiper's Sanchez pick

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfceast/0-9-61/Easter-weekend-Mailbag.html

I don’t think the Redskins will take Sanchez either, but keep in mind that Kiper is a Ravens season-ticket holder and he’s also plugged in pretty closely to the Redskins. So let’s not completely dismiss the most famous mocker of them all.

by KevinE on Apr 13, 2009 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez

is still kinda scary for me. Maybe we will draft Sanchez, fire Zorn, and give Carroll complete control of the team. Jon Gruden will be the new OC. Return of Chuckie!

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 13, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

by hibachi on Apr 14, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

a team with a great front office

I envy the Ravens so much.

dislike, and envy.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by Rydaddy617 on Apr 13, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hilarious

i dont know if i could cheer for him even if he was a redskin
not really feeling his name ha, sounds like he should be the star of one of those hispanic soap opera’s

by travisjh86 on Apr 15, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs