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Boldly Hoping: Redskins Defensive Secondary

Good day to all of you out there fighting to keep hope alive. Time to dust off the ol' series that serves up the tastiest Kool-Aid in town. Time to dig deep for reasons why our beloved Redskins remain in the hunt for a Super Bowl sooner rather than later. Time to break out the italics, because the latest chapter in the Boldly Hoping saga continues now.

I have been dreading this look at our secondary. Like many of you out there, spending more than 2 seconds thinking about the state of our defensive backfield is impossible without re-visiting the tragic death of Sean Taylor. Laron Landry and Sean Taylor were a wet dream standing back there. There is no need for me to further spell out the destruction they would have brought to this league, as we all dwell on it still. Let's move that to the side for the moment and look at who is there now.

I am continually surprised when I find myself in an actual debate about the skills and impact of Laron Landry on our defense. People whose opinions I don't easily dismiss argue he just isn't a force and doesn't make enough plays to be considered an elite player. They argue that he doesn't seem to be around the ball the way Taylor always was and that he doesn't change the game the way Taylor always did from a turnovers perspective. I get names thrown at me...Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, etc. To be frank, they have a point. But this debate is not one-sided. First thing first--the Reeds, Polamalus, and Sean Taylors of the world are beyond elite. They are otherworldly and their greatness is exceeded only by their scarcity. The point being that there are players in this league that are great players that aren't on the same level as Ed Reed (for example.) So I am unprepared to judge Laron Landry by that standard today. It is easy to look great next to Sean Taylor, and then become invisible when it takes a 7th round draft choice playing beyond expectations to lock up the spot beside him. For the sake of registering an opinion, I do think Laron is a special player, capable of taking over games in the defensive backfield. He has the speed to impact the deep passing game, and the power to impact the running game (can we not talk about the Brandon Jacobs train that ran him over last season?) Most importantly, it seems to me that he has the mean streak in him necessary to want to be a physical, nasty presence back there. I believe he was making a large impact last season by taking away a side of the field for example against teams trying to flood intermediate and short zones. At FedEx, I watched him before most plays and witnessed how he played mind games with the opposing quarterbacks, starting up and moving back, or starting on one side and sliding over, or up. I do think his presence was the determining factor in a few games last season, and what at times seemed like his disappearance was nothing more than the offense going away from him. However, to make the leap to elite status he has to turn up the heat in the turnover department. He was tied for 5th among defensive backs last season in forced fumbles. But his INT total--2--is not where we need it to be. In the opener last season, Eli threw one right through his arms. That play (that kind of play) simply has to be made. Ed Reed does not drop that ball...EVER. And the exciting thing about Landry is that with the ball in his hands, he is as explosive of an athlete as there is on the field. He has to put himself in that position more. Because even with relatively young, talented corners on the field for us next year, it will be Landry that will have to dictate to opposing offenses what is there and what isn't. While you may argue the point, you can't argue that some bold hoping is starting to take place here!

Speaking of our corners, let's get past whether DeAngelo Hall is overpaid or not. It doesn't matter. He's 25, a starting talent for most teams (including ours), and he is a Redskins fan. That is enough for me to trot out some serious hope. Hall and Carlos Rogers theoretically represent one of the better CB tandems in the league. Rogers turned the corner last year and despite showing a few signs of ego/attitude at the end of last year when it came to playing time and his contract, he remains someone we will have to count on to lock down the bigger, physical receivers in this league. It is my hope that the Redskins lock this player up long-term in the course of this season. Cornerbacks with the ability to cover man-to-man are a valuable commodity in this league, and especially in a year when there does not appear to be much in the way of top-tier talent coming out of the draft, securing the position is imperative.

And don't think I have forgotten about Captain Steubing. Smoot is a fan favorite, and as a 3rd corner, is a luxury that a lot of teams don't have. He is no up-and-comer that is trying to work his way into the top two. He is an established veteran used to being a starter. If our top two corners do their jobs, it will be Smoot that gets thrown at most, and that is something that should favor the Redskins. He has proven he is able to catch the ball and he has exhibited the kind of toughness and mental resolve that you wish every player had. Plus he is an absolute riot jawing with opposing players, fans, his own teammates, refs, himself, etc.

Finally, back to where we started--safety. IS Chris Horton for real? For a front office that stupidly prides itself on paying whatever it takes to land splashy, big-name players, Horton was an absolute breath of fresh air. A 7th rounder that gets named NFC Defensive Player of the Week in week 2? It took him a while to be in the right place on the majority of plays, but his ability to be in the right place when turnovers were at stake (especially early in the season) is something that some players just have. Personally, it gives me great pleasure to see a guy play his way into our starting lineup that wasn't the focus of some huge off-season saga. Really harkens back to the days where homegrown talent was the rule, not the exception. Year two will hopefully be the pudding that bears the proof that he belongs on the field now and for a long time to come.

The Redskins were #4 in team defense last season. Turnovers, sacks, "big plays"...all still largely elude this unit and ultimately tell the tale of why they are not perceived by many to be a truly great defense. The addition of Haynesworth should help the secondary as much as anyone else on this defense if he does in fact increase the pressure on opposing quarterbacks. Another pass-rushing LB would do the same thing. As we sit right now though, our defensive secondary is as sound as we could hope for, and has the juice to rank as one of the best in 2009. You asked for it and you got it...Boldly Hoping where no hope has helped before.

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Poll
Which of these 5 players will make the biggest impact in the Redskins defensive backfield this upcoming season?
Laron Landry
267 votes
Carlos Rogers
55 votes
DeAngelo Hall
286 votes
Fred Smoot
5 votes
Chris Horton
144 votes

757 votes | Poll has closed

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I wish Landry could move to SS

He’d have much more of a ‘game changing’ impact. His athleticism and size is kind of wasted playing centerfield for us.

That being said, secondary is one of our best units.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 9, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure

If Landry moved to SS, who would play free? Horton and Reed don’t have the speed and athleticism to play FS, and they’re much more suited to playing run support than pass coverage. I don’t think Landry is wasted at FS at all; in fact, I believe his presence back there elimates the chance for most big passing plays. He has incredible range, and I look for him to have his share of interceptions this year.

by AdamHankins on Apr 9, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's the problem.

We don’t have a true FS, which is why Landry plays that position for us.

I guess I shouldn’t say Landry’s talent is wasted, just under-utilized. He’s a much better fit at SS, IMHO.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 9, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

DeAngelo Hall

The Redskins have really been blasted by the media for paying so much for Hall, but I think it was a good move. Hall played well for the Redskins last year, and he seems to have a real knack for creating turnovers. More turnovers is what this defense needs to get to the next level, and I look for them to come in bunches this year. I envision Haynesworth forcing quarterbacks to make hastier decisions, and this secondary is going to make them pay. This is definitely the best overall secondary that the Redskins have had in many years.

by AdamHankins on Apr 9, 2009 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

I voted for Hall as well. With Springs gone, he’s the guy that will be handling #1 WRs not to mention he can actually catch a ball thrown directly to him. I expect turnovers to be as plentiful as Paris Hilton’s STDs.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

Although Rogers showed some skill in shutting down the #1 recievers last year before Hall when Springs was out. The secondary has an opportunity to be special…

by dr WNC on Apr 9, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think Hall will have a big, big year forthcoming.

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 9, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahhh i don't know

Hall still has some things to prove to me, i feel like he still gets burned way too much… carlos needs to learn how to catch but i trust him shutting down #1’s before hall,
but all in all our backfield is great

by travisjh86 on Apr 9, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very true

I still have trouble getting over that one time when Carlos got burned for a touchdown, then the next series he batted the ball away on a bomb and he started doing a celebratory dance (the Skins were still losing). Classic.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 9, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Hall plays the ball too much which is why he occasionally gets burned (by rooks like Eddie Royal) in man-to-man coverage. But he is a turnover machine.

Rogers should spend half of his offseason catching balls from a football throwing machine and take his freakin’ gloves off! Other than that, he’s our best shutdown corner.

Landry was injured part of the season last year, so we haven’t even really seen what his full potential at FS is (or whether he is or isn’t better suited for SS).

Smoot is past his prime but good for nickel packages.

Overall, our defense is strong in the secondary and D-line. We just need an impact OLB.

by VA_Skin on Apr 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to nitpick

but do we have a rather large hole at RDE, even if Daniels & Wynn stay healthy.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 10, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

At RDE,

we have Carter (a pass rushing specialist who excelled at SF before they implemented the 3-4), Wilson (lead the CFL with double digit sacks for 2 years) and Jackson (unproven but with some upside). Daniels and Wynn will rotate in and out at LDE.

by VA_Skin on Apr 10, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meant LDE

We have two mid-30’s guys who were never ‘great’ to begin with, or completely unproven guys without much pedigree.

Andre Carter averages 7 sacks a year and only broke double digits once in San Fran. He is the definition of average.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 13, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carter had double digit sacks

in 2002 (SF) and 2007 (us). The reason his numbers tapered off in SF was because they switched to a 3-4 and tried to play him out of position. Barring injury, with the addition of Haynesworth, Carter should have a MONSTER year.

Daniels and Wynn are both older but also very professional. They train hard (Daniels is squatting over 500 lbs.) and stay in great game shape. Their primary objective will be to stop the run, which they are both proficient at.

by VA_Skin on Apr 13, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don't think

it tops our secondary during the first half of ’07, when we had Area 51 playing safety.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000
  1. was once in a generation player.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 9, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

::tear::

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Skins and the media both

make a big deal out of sighting the entire contract package…which is almost never meant to go full term..only to be restructured later..Haynesworth’s deal is never gonna be 100 million

by terpsez11 on Apr 12, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I wish the entire football universe (fans, media, team) would stop referring to the total potential value of a deal.

Haynesworth is basically signed for 4 years and $48M, that’s what every headline should say.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 13, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Horton

Seemed a little slow on the blitz. He was always picked up by someone too. He does have a nose for the ball and made some plays otherwise. I am still looking for someone to take advantage of the holes AH is going to create. Carter should provide some heat, but after that who? Hopefully it will be our #13 pick.

by liger99 on Apr 9, 2009 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm not worried about it

With Haynesworth in the middle, Blache can pretty much draw up anything he wants. Corner blitzes, Horton running wild….should be fun to watch.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 9, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinkin' the same thing...

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great post.

I see Chris Horton dominating this year. He’s got the intangibles (intelligence, natural instinct, dedication, attitude, etc.) that can’t be coached, along with a good understanding of his role in Blache’s defense. If he can learn to wrap up his tackles a little better, he will be a beast this year!

If we can’t find another OLB starter (besides Rocky) in the draft, and the coaches decide to make Blades the starting OLB, Horton will have to provide support on pass plays as well.

by VA_Skin on Apr 9, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

If we can't find another OLB starter in the draft,

Karlos Dansby will be a FA next offseason…

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

I think Taylor Mays should be a compensatory pick next year for 21.

by VA_Skin on Apr 9, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fact,

I DEMAND it.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 9, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Tryon?

I left him out of my post but he may very well factor in at some point and the question to be asked is: Is that a bad thing or is that a horrible thing?

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 9, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Horrible.

Tryon was a Scum Devil.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 10, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

That must have been

done by one of his relatives…

by VA_Skin on Apr 10, 2009 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's TWO votes for Smooter.

Hmmm…. I should log out and vote for him. (Voted for Landry originally)

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 10, 2009 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rogers in a contract year should have a huge season.

(As long as he can catch the football)

RIP Sean Taylor (1983-2007)

by RedskinFEVA on Apr 12, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I would certainly hope

that if he COULD catch the football, he would have done so by now.

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by DbacksSkins on Apr 15, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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