3rd Round Pick: Getting to Know Kevin Barnes
by KevinE on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM EDT
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Height: 6-01/4 | Weight: 187 | 40-Time: 4.52 [draft countdown]
Strengths:
Very athletic...Good height with long arms...Quick with good speed and a burst to close...Excellent leaping ability...Terrific instincts and awareness...Good tackler...Can deliver the big hit...Nice range...Above average hands and ball skills...Active with a good motor...Has upside.
Weaknesses:
Does not have the ideal bulk that you look for...Needs to be more physical...Isn't very strong...Not real smooth or fluid...Too aggressive at times...Unrefined footwork...Trouble shedding blocks...Durability?
Notes:
Redshirted in 2004...Played extensively as a backup and on special teams in 2005 and 2006...Took over a starting job in 2007 and had a breakout season...College career ended prematurely in 2008 when he fractured his shoulder blade, which required surgery...Was a member of the Terrapin's leadership committee...Prior to the injury some felt he had legitimate Day One potential...Underrated prospect with nice triangle numbers who could be available at a value point on Draft Day.
Year
GP
TKL
PBU
INT
YDS
2005
11
4
1
0
0
2006
13
11
0
0
0
2007
13
65
9
4
55
2008
7
20
5
2
27
Totals
44
100
15
6
82
Some highlights from an interview with Kevin Barnes from NFL Draft University:
Scott Porter: What are your biggest strengths as a football player?
Kevin Barnes: My size I see as a major strength. I have an advantage of being a big cornerback who can move like the little guys can who play the position.
Scott Porter: What type of player and person is an NFL team getting in Kevin Barnes?
Kevin Barnes: They are getting a well rounded individual who has never been in any trouble and will never get into any trouble. I was raised well and well disciplined, I grew up having authority and that goes a long ways.
And now the bad news...
Scott Porter: Did you have a favorite player and team as a kid?
Kevin Barnes: I grew up in North Carolina, but the Carolina Panthers were not a team when I was younger so I grew up loving the Dallas Cowboys and became a big Deion Sanders fan.
The Redskins blog brought to light his outstanding Wonderlic score of 41 and his rehab back to 100%. The WaTimes article had some interesting analysis:
In some ways, he might be better-suited for the pro game than college. He faced so much one-on-one coverage at Maryland that his ability to take risks for a greater payoff was negated, and the possibility of receiving help from safeties in pro defenses might help him exploit his size.
Here's an absolute sick hit he laid against Cal. I was at this game and oh man, what a hit. Wait for the present at the end of the video. Yahoo Sports also has a small montage video of KB.
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With Smoot's skills declining
and Rogers in his contract year, I figured we would take a CB at some point. I was hoping for an OL, but apparently there aren’t any left that are rated high enough for Snyderrato.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree
Our continued lack of interest in o-linemen is a mistake, but CB was a good pick if we weren’t going to go OL.
Kinda wish we had drafted the CB out of Vandy and not this guy who broke every bone in his body last year.
2nd year in a row of picking someone with an injury history.
by smutsboy1 on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, along with every other team
4-OL taken in 3rd round, 1 so far in 4th round.
Reaching for need over value…never works
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A 41 on the Wonderlic!
That’s better than Stafford!!
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From that 'outstanding Wonderlic' link...
And he left the combine with a 41 on the Wonderlic test, the best of any prospect this season on the 12-minute, 50-question exam used to evaluate logical thinking and problem solving.
That would satisfy almost anyone. Almost.
“It was kind of disappointing,” Barnes said. "When I finished taking it, I was like, ‘I can only see myself getting one wrong. OK, I got a 49.’ "
Sounds like another possible Chris Horton. Smart and tough.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
41 on the Wonderlic??
….wow. That IS impressive.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 29, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry,
Posted a fanpost while this was being posted, my bad
Like the pick, BAP=Best possible team, need to ask does Smoot make the team this year?
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he will.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn is on a teleconference with ESPN
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
videoconferece *
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn said he is 100% confident in JC and that Campbell needs to improve at his reads and putting the ball where it needs to be (timing).
Trey Wingo asked, “What did you learn from last year,” Zorn smiled and replied, “…not to fizzle out in the 2nd half of the season.” He looks forward to winning championships with Campbell.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn
needs to improve at his reads and putting the ball where it needs to be (timing).
It’s pretty clear JC is not the answer.
by KevinE on Apr 26, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JC
didn’t look very well suited for the WCO last year. It seems like Zorn needs to adjust his West Coast style somewhat, in order to fit Campbell’s arm strength and downfield potential.
Or maybe if we keep adding defensive players we’ll be like the ’85 Bears and not need a great QB. < : )
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely disagree.
I think JC has been showing a lot of talent, somewhat inconsistently. Not having to switch coordinators again should help with that.
by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he has improved
..but everything Zorn and Cerrato have said the last 2 weeks has proven that he won’t be the guy they want. I think JC is good enough and worth another full year. But I am cautiously optimistic.
by KevinE on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything they've said for the past two weeks.
Is all part of the pre-draft dance. And can’t be taken at face value.
by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
You still don’t think they really wanted Sanchez, do you?
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they would've taken him.
But I think it’s a small fraction of the interest they’ve actually shown.
by SSBlitz on Apr 26, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This 111 pick....
was originally a Skins pick. :-(
by KevinE on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Barnes
Having watched Barnes at Maryland, I really thought he was going to be a 2nd rounder before the injury. He was invited to senior bowl and was getting big ups around the country. I think he will supplant Smoot before the season is over without question. He is a great player with the ability to tackle, which is something that Greg Blache (by way of Williams) values higher than almost every attribute in corners.
Also, don’t forget the value that Williams and Blache have always put on having great cover corners. The defense is built around the idea that our corners can survive in man-to-man coverage. This is a position of need for the defense as a result. Unfortunately, our offense still needs help…
I think Barnes was a great pick, but unfortunately, we don’t have a whole lot of picks in this draft so it didn’t address a starting need. I guess that means the Redskins didn’t see anyone who could contribute as much as readily as Barnes, because this is a team that is built on winning now(ish).
I think Barnes will start as the 4th corner and then eventually will be the 3rd. Smoot will be cut or walk after this season (is his contract up?) and hopefully we can retain Rogers. Then, we’d really have a great (and young!) set of corners.
by mmford10 on Apr 26, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way...
Let’s hope for Marcus Freeman (OSU OLB) in the 5th coming up…. looks like he could be a sleeper pick…
by mmford10 on Apr 26, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Duke Robinson and Herman Johnson
are still available?
Duke Robinson. 6’ 5", 330 lbs. (Oklahoma)
Herman Johnson. 6’ 7", 386 lbs. (LSU)
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OL possibilities *
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Round 5 has started.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN
Vinny didn’t get to move up ahead of Cinci in the 5th to get his player!
(142) Bengals Huber, Kevin P 6’1" 220 Cincinnati
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here we GO....
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatd we trade for?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redskins trade pick to Vikings!
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And....
the Skins trade their 5th round pick to the Vikings. Interesting.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 26, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So.....
offensive tackle, Vinny? That ring any bells??
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
158
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea..my bad
we got their 7th too. nfl.com was slow posting the skins pick inthe 5th
by KevinE on Apr 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah they haven't put it in the trade tracker yet.
I like picking up 7th round picks. I feel like you can take a lot of risks there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey. Look at it this way.
Maybe the Vikings just traded Steve Hutchison to us.
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by DbacksSkins on Apr 26, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else watching the caps game at the same time?
I can’t stand the way the commentator says Varlamov.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There goes the QB to the Giants
Traded back and lost the QB to the Giants
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why are we drafting a QB again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the punter is off the board
The need is LB and Lineman, it’ll make sense right?
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for Nate Davis
that stuff about his learning disability is bullshit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashad Jennings time?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 2:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles select Victor Harris- CB (VT)
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Redskins on the clock...
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cody Glenn?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for the 158th pick, the Washington Redskins select...
CODY GLENN- OLB
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was suspended indefinitely
from Nebraska for some reason. Don’t know why.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke Robinson to the Panthers : (
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vinny must not think it's an issue.
With the signing of Dockery and a couple of other tackle prospects, I guess he believes we’ll be fine this year. I disagree and I think this will be a big problem for us later on as the line continues to wear down. Any news on Chad Rinehart though?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vinny is basing his decision
off Zorn and Buges. If Buges doesn’t think we need help (even though our OL utterly collapsed late last season)…. is he looking through rose-colored glasses or what?
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then buges is not a good coach
A coach is a coach, Buges has been and will be a coach. Don’t see how he can be looking through Rose Colored glasses and still have a job.
The Dockery addition is a lot bigger than many people give credit, the entire blocking scheme has now changed with a top LG
by dr WNC on Apr 26, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buges IS a good coach.
There is no denying that. He just seems to get a little too attached to his veterans sometimes.
I hate to rain on your parade but the Dockery addition only marginally improves our overall line. LG was not the only offensive line position that broke down last year. If Heyer and Rinehart (or one of the UFA we apparently brought in) can step up that would help tremendously.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
understand but...
If Thomas can help with RT more, due to Dockery over Kendall isn’t that an overall improvement on the line…not just the LG position?
by dr WNC on Apr 27, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly don't know
what to expect from Randy Thomas this year (coming off a major neck injury). He may or may not hold up the entire season. Will Rinehart (or Jansen/Heyer) be able to fill in?
Have you noticed how much Rabach struggles against bigger 3-4 NTs? We do play at least three of those 3-4 defenses in this upcoming season.
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duke Robinson
was unbelievable value there. I’m kind of dissapointed we didnt go and get him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Apr 26, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There goes Herman Johnson...
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Celts vs. Bulls on ABC goint to OT
Curry, Orakpo, or the top 4 OLs... or back.
by VA_Skin on Apr 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I would’ve rather had Victor Harris.
by BlackOps on Apr 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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