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Comparison: Why the Redskins Front Office Fails (and the Patriots Front Office Wins)

The Redskins' front office decisions the last ten years (outside the Gibbs II era) have been confusing, infuriating, frustrating to say the least. I decided to take a deeper look at the front office operations for two franchises that have had continued success, the Patriots and Colts, and compare their models to Washington's. 

The SB Nation bloggers for both the Patriots and Colts gave me an intricate look into their war rooms (the best they could), and after reading their team’s decision-making processes, the broken model for the Redskins front office becomes GLARINGLY obvious. 

Pats Pulpit explains the Patriots' decision making up to draft day:

Scott Pioli, former VP of Player Personnel and now GM of the Chiefs, said both Bill [Belichick] and himself discussed, sometimes vigorously, players for the team, but Belichick had the final say - always.  The belief was Bill had to coach the player and was the best resource for knowing whether or not a player was a fit for the team and its’ needs.  Owners, the Kraft Family, make the money decisions, but always defer to Belichick on player decisions. Scouts and coaches alike attend the combine and pro days, but again, it's up to Bill.

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The Pats' model makes perfect sense, and it worked for the Redskins when Joe Gibbs ran the show (ah, the glory days). So, when does the model break? When the GM/VP of Personnel decides to sign free agents regardless of what the coaches think. For example, Cerrato signing Jason Taylor to a 2-year deal even though Blache was not in favor of the acquisition. Blache is a great defensive coach, and I would imagine he would know what players work best in his system. Square peg into circle hole!

The Colts have a model similar to the Redskins with one MAJOR difference (that is painstakingly obvious). Stampede Blue explains:

The Colts have a very simple system when it comes to scouting, grading, and drafting players. Bill Polian is a former scout. So, he invests a lot of time and resources in his scouting department, which is one of the best in football. Polian, however, is not a fan of NFL free agency. Why overpay for a veteran when you can get similar production from a rookie?

What Polian demands is that his scouts actively talk and meet with the coaches. They are encouraged (nay, ordered!) to meet regularly and discuss the kinds of players the teams need to succeed. For example, offensive line coach Howard Mudd likes coaching smart, technically savy players. He's not necessarily looking for "big" or "road grater" types. He needs kids who were taught in college how to balance their feet, position their hands, and work as a unit with teammates. So, the scouts take this info and look for players who fit that mold. A similar method is used when evaluating Wide Receivers. A story goes that Bill Polian once gathered his scouts and said "I don't want to see any scouting reports on players who can't catch or run clean routes. We have the best QB in the league. Why would we give him someone who can't catch? I don't care how fast the WR is or how high he can jump. Can he run and catch? If he can, scout him. If he can't, don't bother."

Once the scouts have completed their work, they submit their reports to Bill Polian and Chris Polian (Bill's son, and VP of Football Operations). When the reports are in Bill, Chris, Dom Anile Sr. (a longtime consultant) and the head coach gather and look over the players. Some of these players Bill Polian has scouted personally. After they look them all over, they grade the players on the big board. The board then gets adjusted and re-adjusted after the Scouting Combine and the Pro Days.

Then, on draft day, the final decision on ALL draft matters is Bill Polian's. No one else's. He asks for feedback and opinions in the War Room, and has often said that the person who always wanted to trade up or down or sideways on draft day was Tony Dungy. But, in the end, the decision is Bill Polian's.   

So there it is. Do you see the major problems? Let’s start with the Colts since their model is similar to the Redskins. They have a head scout leading personnel and making all the final decisions. Just like Bill Polian, Vinny Cerrato has the final decision on draft day. PERIOD. OK, so why does Polian’s model work so well? Simple…they avoid free agency. This goes back to Ted Leonsis’s 10-point plan, "build through the draft and use free agency to compliment the core group of guys." It's how you develop depth, chemistry, and keep the team youthful.

The Redskins obviously do not follow this model. Draft picks are traded away for veterans who have a handful of "prime" years left.

As for the Patriots, their plan makes the most sense to me. The Kraft family hit the jackpot with Belichick, and yes, he does everything but walk on water. The major problem for the Redskins in this regard is the carousel of head coaches. Whatever head coach Snyder brings in, that coach has to inherit the predecessor's mess while players are drafted and signed for the new coach's scheme. Within one to two years, that coach is fired and the next coach has to inherit the current group of guys. I can't help but think about the mess Joe Gibbs took on after the "Fun N' Gun"  era. It took Coach Gibbs a full year to gut the bad players, and by the second year, he had the team rolling again. After three years in the Gibbs era, he no doubt left the team in a better position. Why? He had his own scheme, everyone believed in it, and he had FINAL say of what players were drafted and signed.

Other failing models like Washington's were the Detroit Lions with Matt Millen and Jerry Jones with the Cowboys. Both are examples of an omniscient GM assembling a team they expect every coach to win with. Wade Phillips and Zorn are push-overs in this sense.

In my opinion, the Redskins need to start with the Coach, whatever coach, buy into his system, and steer clear of all the shiny objects that hit the open market (Shanahan, Spurrier, Cutler). Best of luck Coach Zorn, I'm pulling for you.

PS - A sincere special thanks to David of Pats Pulpit and Brad of Stampede Blue for their time and insight.

 

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As with anyone, I am not going to crucify a player/coach/GM for one year of decisions, so it will be exciting interesting to see how the Redskins draft day plays out. If we end up going two consecutive years without drafting a starter in the first two rounds then you’ll hear the wrath! haha.

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cool Article

even if reminding me of the Redskins’ front office ineptitude makes me want to spend my lunch break with a bottle of vodka…ahhhh vodka! Da!

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 21, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good article

Though it’s a bit of proverbial salt in my wounds from being a redskins fan.

by SSBlitz on Apr 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, if you count Durant Brooks

We technically had 2 starters from last year’s draft with him and Chris Horton.

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 21, 2009 12:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who did start...from all of the players

in last year’s draft …on any team that finished 8-8 or better?

this article sucks

by terpsez11 on Apr 21, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jake Long,

Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jerod Mayo…

by hythlodaeus on Apr 24, 2009 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Article and Review

The Redskins are not given enough credit for how well the FO and scouts perform with selecting players in the draft and undrafted signees. The Redskins performance is better than average, as well as better than a majority of the teams in the NFL, obviously NE, Pitts, Indy are the cream.
The Redskin failures have been with FA signings, where they default to the owner to attempt to build a Fantasy team. It almost happened again this year with the Cutler move, for no other reason than it was what the owner wanted.
The owner needs to be the money man, and stay out of the decision making process. Vinny needs to stand his ground as “whatever-he-is” and make the decision with his scouts, based on an understanding of the Coaches not the owner.

You mention Taylor, Vinny the yes man pulled the trade which would best serve the owner, instead of the coach, there in lies the problem.

by dr WNC on Apr 21, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

That’s the large point of the article I wanted to drive home, the Skins scouting core is one of the best in the league. They have found some real gems over the years, it’s just so hard for the brass to not take the celebrity-type player. (which is crystal clear with Chris Samuels being the last O or D lineman drafted in the 1st round)

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The problem is that because we constantly trade away picks, when there’s someone we want, we have to pay extra for him in order to trade up and recoup picks we frequently already held:

Cooley
Campbell
McIntosh

by smutsboy1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How did you arrive at “5%” for Dan Snyder’s input?

by smutsboy1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Educated estimate...

From very credible people I have talked to…. Snyder is in the war room draft day but does absolutely nothing. He lets Vinny make the call. The 5% could me more or less, but from everything I’ve heard, Snyder is basically the salesman to go and woo/get whoever Vinny says…which is how I came to that.

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they probably have a complicated system of winks, nods, gestures and pheromones so that Danny can make it seem like Vinny is making the calls.

I think that the main reason Vinny’s still here is it took so long and cost so much for Danny to have him genetically engineered it wouldn’t be worth it for him to make a new GM.

by snowburnt on Apr 22, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i actually

laughed out loud at this. haha

by Rekka on Apr 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Taylor

It’s funny to me how hindsight is always 20/20. When the Jason Taylor trade first happened, every Redskins fan was excited about it. After the season was over, everybody seemed to realize it was a bad idea in the first place. Come on, admit it—a lot of these moves excited you until they didn’t pan out.

by AdamHankins on Apr 21, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...BUT...

I still have my IM window between Sugar and myself from that day. He was in love with the trade and I was “OK” with it. It’s not fair for Vinny to get totally blasted b/c of that freak injury. Where the ‘20/20’ hindsight argument falls apart is the stuff the fans didn’t know at the time…..ie – trading away picks for a player your defensive coordinator doesn’t want. And the fact Parcells jumped on the 2nd and 6th round picks…sounds like the Skins could have negotiated for less but they were desperate given it was the first day of camp and 2 DEs were out for the year.

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If, like me, you thought the Skins were not close to being contenders last year, and that they needed to infuse a lot of youth in order to build a foundation for sustained success, then Vinny deserves a lot of criticism for trading away an extremely valuable (and cost effective) 2nd round pick for a 34 year old who didn’t fit our system.

As with most of our moves, they would be ok for a team that’s close to contending and has a youthful core that will be in a place for a while. Sadly that doesn’t describe us.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 21, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

100% correct

The Jason Taylor trade was one I thought was great at the time, but his injuries showed the Redskins were able to perform without him and with his release the trade provided no value with 2-draft picks lost.
Hindsight is 20/20, and the good business man will learn, has the Redskins changed?

by dr WNC on Apr 21, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a fair characterization

me and 3 of the 4 guys I watch every Skins game with were STRONGLY against the Jason Taylor move.

I don’t excited when loving the move requires extreme optimism and shortsightedness.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 21, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would have been a great move if he hadn’t had a freak injury.

For a guy that never gets injured who would have thought he’d get a life threatening calf-injury.

Without that injury, who’s to say he wouldn’t have been worth the 2 picks AND a resigning for this year.

by snowburnt on Apr 22, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

taylor

He actually had a calf injury the prior year…but either way, yea, it was freakish. bad luck.

by KevinE on Apr 22, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

“In love” is strong. I think my point was then, and continues to be now, that Jason Taylor represented an upgrade to our defense. I hated losing the picks, but the fact was that other teams were bidding on his services so the Skins were not bidding against themselves. And at the time, we were assured it would be more than just 1 year of work for the cost. I am pretty sure in the same spot, that trade gets made over and over again by at least a handful of competent front offices.

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 21, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
the fact was that other teams were bidding on his services

Who? He was available for awhile b/c of all that Dancing with the Stars stuff, and for that reason, to me I thought no one was bidding on him. I found this article where he was available for trade two months before the Redskins sent the picks over. That doesn’t seem like a lot of high demand to me.

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was reported by multiple outlets

The Giants were involved in talks that day to get JT. Shockey was still a Giant at that point and he was very much part of a lot of trade speculation. I think it was ultimately the additional 6th rounder thrown in by Vinny that sealed the deal and got JT to D.C.

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 21, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ah yea...crapola...

I forgot how big the Shockey trade talk was…good point. I’ll crawl back into my cave now and try to figure out how to pry my tail out from underneath me..

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It still had aspects that bothered me

Like how it was trading for an older vet using our high draft picks. It made me feel a little better that we didn’t sign him to a 7-year, $67 million deal, but it is even more painful in retrospect seeing 2nd rounders burned like that. As I said before, those are franchise-crippling moves. One year, 3.5 sacks for a 2nd round pick. It gives you that feeling in your stomach like something is trying to bite its way out of your insides.

by Ken Meringolo on Apr 21, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

100%

If JT was 100% healthy that could have been enough to win a couple of games that got us in the playoffs, and that would have saved some street cred for Vinny. Tho losing in the playoffs isn’t much good either for a team that is “already built to win.”

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

IMO

I like the Pats/Indy/Pit model better than the Reskins’ model. But I do find it difficult to say that the model is the main factor that they are consistent winners when their ‘winning’ began just after they drafted Manning/Brady/Roethlisberger. The Washington model would look just fine with Manning running the show.

by liger99 on Apr 21, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

Their model is based on them not just drafting a stud QB, but always having lots of draft picks.

Brady was a 6th rounder and the Pats have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds this year. Skins never seem to have picks. The Skins proved you can win Super Bowls without franchise quarterbacks.

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pre-cap days

I think there is a big difference in how teams are put together now that there is a salary cap. Jacoby, Bostic, and Starke were all undrafted even when they had 14 rounds. The Skins were spending money on scouting and quality backups; like having Doug Williams (only 32 at the time) as a backup while they groomed Rypien who was on some fake IL for two years. The NFC was spending money and winning 13 straight SBs … SF/DAL/NYG/WAS won 13 out of 15….leading to the salary cap phase-in starting in 1994. The Redskins SB teams were pretty well rounded and deep, which is now pretty tough to do and difficult to maintain with the cap. I think I’m seeing a trend in the salary cap era to QB-centered teams being they have the greatest impact on the outcome of games and can provide a winning team for many years. That is just IMO, maybe I’m wrong. Now that Snyder is/was looking to get Cutler or Sanchez, I’m concerned that he sees the same trend and is going to disrupt Campbell’s steady improvement.

by liger99 on Apr 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good comparison.....

We have 10yrs of bad picks and trade etc…..TJ Duckett comes to mind….waisted a 3rd rounder when we had drafed a RB the year before and had 4 on the roster…..I am still surprised we had so many pics last year……I hope the WR’s and OT we took show some stability……..go skins

Tony A

by JNZO on Apr 21, 2009 5:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

And for Brandon Lloyd the Skins traded 3rd and 4th round picks (on top of the $10 mil signing bonus).

by KevinE on Apr 21, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

i didn’t realize thats what we gave up for him (I remember the 10 mill but not the picks)
at least he was extremely productive in his short time here, totally worth it

by travisjh86 on Apr 22, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

The problem with trading picks for a player is that the cap gets screwed if the player is a bust. If you miss on the draft pick, then the cap is normally not that impacted.

by liger99 on Apr 22, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

mr espn …got a take on why the red Sox are the team of the new millenium?

by terpsez11 on Apr 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This just makes me

wanna play Madden ’09 and start Franchise mode…draft, draft, draft-trade (expensive) Vets for picks, draft. Once every couple of years, a marquee FA will come along in a major position of need, and eventually I have the players that fit my system (ball control, power O/Beefy front 4 with speed in the back 7 for the D). Ah, damned seperation! Left my video games to the kids. Well, back to reality, oh ya…that vodka.

ARMY STRONG

by JustinU804 on Apr 22, 2009 8:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+2

that’s the precise plan Snyderrato should be pursuing.

and that’s precisely what I do whenever I do a ’Skins Madden franchise.

by smutsboy1 on Apr 22, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Danny is letting Vinny run the show...

He should be fired. Vinny is an idiot…go hire Kellen Wonslow from Baltimore or, as the article says, one of the Colts or Pats front office people.

But Danny should be fired for the number of coaches he has gone through.

Bubbles -

PS – I still have hope in Jimmy Z – I don’t thonk he is the push over that some have made him out to be.

Remember, Gibbs went 8-8 in his first year.

by BubblyB on Apr 22, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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