Skins Likely Are Showing Interest in Cutler
by Kevin Ewoldt on Apr 1, 2009 6:54 PM EDT
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PrintJason Reid, beat writer for the Redskins for Washington Post, reported on Comcast Sportsnite just now the latest on the Redskins/Cutler situation. It looks like this may happen. Key quotes:
- Redskins Park was silent today when in the past they were vocal about having no interest in Cutler.
- Snyder has always been vocal about acquiring a franchise Quarterback. One has never been available, but there is now.
- Sources say that Denver wants to send Cutler to the NFC, and they do have interest in Campbell and the #13 pick.
I tried to youtube the video, but it failed. You can watch the full interview here.
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Reid very similar to JLC
Insider happening don’t happen at the post, more concerned with ESPN and NFL network. They have the true Redskin insider info….please, please GO! Tampa Bay
8-8 again is not exciting…
The more I roam around the blogs...............
The more i think that were also dangling somebody else other than campbell out there. Of course i havent heard this from any TV source but i’m just nervous about them trading away a Landry or that caliber.
Oh hell no
Not Landry. I bought the jersey in December and you can’t even imagine the months of turmoil over “how can I possibly wear that name on my back” I went through before pulling the trigger.
by ReggieBullits on Apr 1, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Landry would cost
the Redskins $6-7 million in dead cap space by trading him (Cooley would cost even more).
Landry ain’t going anywhere.
Redskins are a bad team
Lucky to be 3-13 this year, unless they get Jeff George of Favre.
O please!
Pull your head out of the sand and take a look around, friend.
Come hell or high water, the Washington Redskins are playoff bound.
no they aren't
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
I think
we probably are, but I’m not confident enough to say “come Hell or high water”.
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Im mixed on this
on one hand, we need to win now. We need that #13 draft pick to bolster the offensive line or the pass rush. On the other hand, we could be getting a franchise quarterback for the next 10+ years or so. As much as I like JC, nobody here can say he’s really brought it yet. Sure, he’s had flashes of greatness but he hasn’t really shown us he can carry an offense. Also, if they do trade for Cutler, Zorn must have some say in it no? If the “QB Genius” doesn’t trust JC why should we question him?
Again, I’m against this move just because I really believe our pass rush is going to be putrid this year (even with Haynesworth) and I want to win now, but it truly wouldnt be the worst move in the world. There’s a reason why 10 other teams are scrambling to get him and they all have as many holes as us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
agreed
really depends what we give up. We trade #1 and JC and get Cutler and round #2 back…than we’re talking. Knowing Snyderrato…we’re trading away our #1 2009 and 2010
I would be beyond annoyed if that happened.
I don’t think he’s going to fetch that much, but you never know with snyder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
also can you provide some links
to all this gossip? I’ve been having some trouble finding it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
yeah my mistake I just caught it
I normally only read bullets when they’re up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Is the video supposed to be only 13 seconds
or am I messing something up?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Hogs haven
How can hogshaven be reporting JC is at a caps game, but JLC reports he’s at a charity event
it said "earlier today"
I can’t believe i forgot the caps were playing though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
If Snyder is even thinking
that, he should be SHOT! After all, Campbell was a 1st round (25?) pick himself!
That's not JC's value at this point
but yeah, I would lose all faith in this franchise
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
It seems like we
have the best offer out of everyone. No other team has a QB with Campbell’s pedigree. And by offering our 1st rounder, that means Denver could draft @ 12 & 13 ! If they aren’t confident with Campbell, they could probably get Sanchez (the only NCAA QB who actually ran an NFL-style offense), and Maualuga (or whoever drops to 12/13).
I would feel really bad for Campbell
if this happened. Maybe a change of scenery would benefit him, but how many offenses does this guy have to learn?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
then again
if it can make Matt Cassel look decent it might turn Campbell into the next Brady
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I would really like to know
if McDaniels even considers Campbell the type of QB that would fit his/NE’s system.
I was just kidding about that.
I wouldn’t have any faith in Mcdaniels if I were a broncos fan. It’s all Belichick in NE. What has any of his assistants done as a head coach so far?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
But I seriously wonder what
McDaniels might think of Campbell in his system. From reading the Mile High Report fanposts, it seems like at least some of their fans like Campbell.
Here's an interesting tidbit from ESPN
In games where the Broncos have allowed 21 points or fewer, Cutler is an impressive 13-1, and that only loss was to Green Bay in 2007 when the Packers won the coin toss and Brett Favre threw an 82-yard touchdown pass on the first play of overtime.
Granted we don’t have a Brandon Marshall, but imagine what he could do with the best defense in the league.
No kidding
People complain about him forcing it too often and there may be some truth in that, but what do you expect when you’re always down because the defense is giving up points at will?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
I mentioned that stat
in a previous post, and actually Santana Moss had just as many TDs as Brandon Marshall and only around 200 less yards.
Cutler… meet your next Pro Bowl WR !
I wouldn't compare Santana to Brandon Marshall.
They’re two completely different players
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
It's not all about the TDs
Marshall is a big dude who can go over the middle and get the first down. Santana can’t run a fade route and battle the DB in the corner of the end zone. Apples and oranges IMO.
Bring in Jay Cuts and watch Kelly transform into his next Pro Bowl WR
by ReggieBullits on Apr 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
via the "What would it take to trade for Cutler?" ESPN post
“It would take Jason Campbell and the No. 13 overall pick to get in the conversation. The Redskins aren’t going to do it, though. Not quite ready to give up on Campbell.” — Matt Mosley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Alright, it's past midnight on the east coast.
Time to admit that it was just a big April Fool’s prank? Please?? :-(
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Please God let this be true
Trade Campbell and deangelo hall and our 5th round pick please just get Cutler this kid has a rocket arm and doesnt lack confidence which Campbell hasnt been spectacular with. The Broncos are forcing their own hand and we should be able to get him for a bargain. Don’t overpay Cerato dont give up 5 picks for the kid.
Hey, smart guy?
It’s gonna take more than a 5th round pick.
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And it's not gonna be "a bargain"
when there are nine other teams also trying to trade for him.
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Fair compensation would be
JC and our 1st rounder, and a conditional pick next year. Really, the first two are fair, but a 3rd that can escalate to a 1st dependent on a monster season would help. I would be quite comfortable trading Moss or ARE + an additional mid-range guy like that to save a pick. I would cry if we gave up anyone on our stellar defense, its exactly what we need to help Cutler further exceed the average QB play around the league, and especially in Washington. Long have I wanted to be rid of Portis, send him and JC to denver with our 2nd rounder for Cutler and a 4/5th rounder. Saves cap space and allows us to work our late-round draft gem magic. Denver’s D-Line is abysmal, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they got one of our DTs-I say Griff, he’s the most expensive. But will likely be one of our younger guys.
ARMY STRONG
Though
Overall, I am still not too sure if I like this trade, but I can complain about getting a better-much better, arguably, QB
ARMY STRONG
Are you kidn me????
THis goes to show you that Cerratto and Synder have no clue how to build a winning football team. You have more serious issues than QB and now you want to give away another draft pick with the few you have? Most everyone knows that A QB CAN NOT THROW A FOOTBALL WHEN HE IS ON HIS BACK. The Skins will not make the Superbowl this year with a QB with a rocket arm and a stud Defensive tackle alone. Why can’t pople see how Cerratto and Synder are flying by the seat of their pants and have no clue. They are the laughing stock of the league. Campbell has not been given enough time, nor the weapons to succeed. Take the time to instill youth and talent on the offensive and defensive lines before accessing the QB situation, do a better job accessing talent for draft picks. I can’t believe people think this trade is a good idea. This will not get us to the promise land. We have too many weaknesses so build through the draft. Every year we waste picks , spend for 1 big name player while other positions falter do to age and mediocracy so we have to address that position the following year. The thing is each year we have more and more holes to fill. This is a vicous cycle and will get us nowhere. Just look at the history of the team since Synder took over. Look at the championship teams over the past few years, Patriots,Steelers, Giants, they have the recipe for building a team, but Cerratto and Synder are too inept to follow. I say trade Synder and Cerratto for Belichick and Kraft. Then you will see results.
by A Connecticut Redskin on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions
You forgot to mention the Colts....
All of these teams have a stud QB running the show. The easiest way to build a winning team is to build it around a stud QB. There are otherways too, like the 2000 Ravens…but most of the SB winners feature a great QB. I like JC, but he has a long release, never throws the ball away (38 sacks! not all on poor o-line play), and he waits for the receiver to get open before throwing the ball (his release is too slow for this approach, thus more sacks and fumbles). Cutler does all of these things better than JC. I’m for giving JC one more year and I’m mixed on getting Cutler. If we do get Cutler then we better win or all hell will break loose.
No,
the easiest way to build a winning team is to build it around good offensive and defensive lines. They’re the ones who make everything happen on their respective sides of the ball.
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Agreed
But like you said, we don’t know if Cutler is a stud QB nor do we know if Campbell can’t be a stud QB and a good offensive line can make a good QB a Suberbowl winning QB along with other pieces. In addition, why risk the health and Psyche of a QB behind a bad O-line? Peyton was an anomalie he was bred for the job. His brother is a prime example of why you need a good O-line along with a good running game and an elite receiver to win a Superbowl. He was questioned severly before he won his Superbowl.
by A Connecticut Redskin on Apr 2, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
You need a franchise QB
but that’s far from all you need.
Snyder + Brady/Manning/Roeth would not equal an annual contender. it wouldn’t even equal one championship.
Would the Skins have lost to...
CIN, SF, and STL last year with Peyton running the show? I doubt it. The salary cap has leveled the playing field so much that QB play is more emphasized…one or two mistakes or key plays by the QB can determine the outcome of games. In the past you could more easily build an overall solid team and win it….like the Skins SB teams. The Steelers won this year without a good o-line…they traded their best OL player, Faneca, to the Jets, but still won. Cards got good play from Warner…didn’t the skins beat them? Ravens added Flacco and lost Ogden and made it to the title game from 5-11. Miami added Pennington and won 10 more games (1-15 to 11-5). Ryan played well for ATL, turned them around along with Turnner and coaching. Brady got hurt and they lost 5 more games than the prior year. This is just IMO, and I agree that overall team play is best. I just think it is more difficult now than in the past to have a team without holes somewhere…and a stud QB can compensate for the holes.
There's a huge difference
…between ‘having holes somewhere’ and what the Redskins are.
We have no depth, an offensive line full of 30 year olds, we basically haven’t been restocking with talented youth at all, we have one of the worst WR corps in the league, and we’re about to start 2 or 3 of the following players: HB Blades, Philip Daniels & JonJan.
You take the elite QBs off the Big 3, give them a mediocre player like JC has been (so far) and those teams are miles ahead of us.
Miles.
So?
Do what the Redskins ALWAYS do…. restructure, restructure, RESTRUCTURE! Give him a big bonus in uncapped money next year to take a pay cut this year.
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I would not say Miles ahead...
Pats went from 16-0 to 11-5 without Brady….big slide. CLE 10-6 to 4-12, Miami +10 wins, seems like things can change in a hurry now. The Skins did beat the two NFC title game teams last year. The NFC seems pretty wide open to me. We could crash/burn or make a SB run. IMO there are 1-2 really good teams and 1-2 really bad teams, with the rest in the middle somewhere. A few plays can put a middle team into the playoffs where a run is possible….see 2007 NGY and 2008 ARZ..and 2008 PIT.
Lightning in a bottle (aka the '08 Cardinals)...
…doesn’t interest me.
The Steelers, Colts and Pats are regular contenders. Even the Eagles were for a while there. And the Giants look like they’re headed there.
We are not. Trying to mimic the ‘08 Cardinals doesn’t interest me.
You simply can’t win without stockpiling picks so that you have affordable talent to fill out your depth chart and your starting roster alongside your star players.
Jay Cutler
is NOT Peyton Manning. You’re having delusions of grandeur.
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Um....
why the Heck do you keep spelling “Cerrato and Snyder” as “Cerratto and Synder”? The Cerratto/Cerrato mistake is understandable, but “Synder”?
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One player impact forgotten
Dockery was signed this year, the impact of one player to an offensive line can be huge
While the OL needs to continue to be addressed with YOUNGER players, a line with
Samuels, Dockery, Rabach, Thomas and Heyer will be a solid line
A great Player to the O-line can be huge...
Dockery ain’t it. There is a reason Buffalo did not want him. and when healthy Samuels and Thomas can be solid. Heyer is a back up at best otherwise they would have cut Jansen. Rabach is average. Consistenency counts for alot and with players constantly getting hurt, you can’t build that consistency.
by A Connecticut Redskin on Apr 2, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
There IS a reason Buffalo did not want him.
They needed the salary cap space to sign Terrell Owens.
If you’re taking your personnel cues from the Bills, then you’ve got a lot to learn.
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Yeah. Guaranteed.
Robert Gallery was drafted #2 overall, remember?
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Agree on all counts.
Snyder is a moron and will never build a good franchise.
Without good lines and youthful depth, your only hope to be a contender is ‘lightning in a bottle’ which is a terrible way to go about building a team.
Sorry guys
From the ESPN.com:
Citing an NFL source, the Post reported that a high-ranking member of the Redskins organization had approached one team about trading Campbell for a second-round pick. The Redskins would obviously be loading up to make a run for Cutler, and they apparently aren’t wasting any time.
Looks like they’re really pushing hard for this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Sarcasm
What they should do is keep drafting and signing QB’s, DB’s, WR’s, and moody RB’s and forget that every championship team in the history of the league had a great lineplay.
Great lineplay makes bad RB’s look good, it makes bad QB’s like Mark Rypien into NFL MVP’s. It doesn’t matter how good a QB is, without a line, his team won’t win. Period. You can ignore the fact that Cutler hasn’t exactly proven to be a world beater. His career QB rating is about where Campbells is and he has thrown about twice the picks that Campbell has.
Rypien's line
That was EXACTLY the point I made yesterday — that line allowed nine sacks all season.
Cutler’s also been throwing in a VERY favorable stadium at Invesco Field, where the ball soars like a sailplane on a thermal.
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Here, Here....
Good point. To add a note. Look at Timmy Smith in Super Bowl XXII. He set records behind that line and was out of football the next year.
by A Connecticut Redskin on Apr 2, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Emmitt Smith
Imagine if Barry Sanders had that O-line Emmitt had…good lord…he would have been putting up 500 yard games. OLine is everything. I’m still hammered…i’ll stop talking.
Idiotic and boggling
like trying to put band-aids instead of stitches on a stab wound… Instead of 6ft under they’ve managed to be only about 3 feet under!! I don’t really get it… These guys played in the same conference in college (auburn and Vandy) at about the same time. They put up similar numbers agains same defenses (granted- Campbell had a little more of a supporting cast at the time)… I just don’t see Cutler being that MUCH of an upgrade. He will be in a much more aggresive (defensive) division and struggle with a new offense (although be it similar- but there is always growing/adaption pains).
I hope he comes in here and proves me wrong- but as of right now- I JUST DON’T GET IT!!
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