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2nd Round Pick: Lets Move Forward

Ring_girl_medium “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” - George Santayana, U.S. philosopher, poet.

So Washington doesn’t have a 2nd round pick this year. I think we’re all ready to move on from this pain, but I think it’s important to first learn want went wrong so the front office doesn’t make this mistake again (and waste more picks in the future). I found 3 ways we can learn from this, and I take a 6-year look back at all of Washington's second round picks.

It was only July of last year, and memories still run fresh the day the Skins acquired Jason Taylor for two draft picks. My initial reaction, like most, was approval. Training camp had already started, Daniels was down, and options for an impact replacement were slim. Email chains were flowing heavily that Monday amongst my friends, and I don’t recall anyone complaining at it being a terrible move. 

The honeymoon with the new Washington dancing star, however, was pretty short lived. First, there was the freak injury. Second was the inability for Jason to adjust to Blache’s defensive style of defending the run first. Third was #55’s struggle to play on the other end of the defensive line from his natural side. The final straw provoking the pink slip was JT’s refusal to work out with the rest of the team in the off-season workouts.

 So what’s important to remember here moving forward? I found 3 things:

 1.) If you want a player to perform in OTAs, put it in his contract. As Cooley pointed out, players can get paid big bucks for OTAs. JT was a concern in this department since he already blew off the Dolphins for Dancing with the Stars, and he was verbal about how important time with his family is.

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2.)  Don’t assume a player’s strength in one system will bring success in your system. JT no doubt is a talented guy, and I know this is a tougher one to judge. But even when he was healthy, he did not cut the mustard (or cheese). Yes, the middle of the Skins defensive line last year certainly takes some blame on this.

3.) Think back to what this trade should have been worth. A #2 and #6? Probably not. The Dolphins knew the Redskins were desperate and had lost most of their negotiating leverage. This goes back to the Ted Leonsis article, if we build youth and depth via the draft, then losing Phillip Daniels wouldn’t have put us in a desperate situation to make such a trade.

Let’s evaluate how much value second round picks have brought the Redskins in the past.

2008 – Devin Thomas, Fred Davis, Malcolm Kelly (Skins traded 1,3,5 picks and received two 2nd round picks and one 4th round pick)
2007 – NO PICK (Traded this pick to move up to 2nd round pick in 2006)
2006 – Rocky McIntosh
2005 – NO PICK (included in trade up to acquire Cooley in 3rd round of 2004)
2004 – NO PICK (Packaged in trade for Portis)
2003 – Taylor Jacobs
2002 – Ladell Betts

Notables available in 2008 1st round for Skins' pick: Felix Jones, Chris Johnson, Kenny Phillips, Eddie Royal

Notables available in 2007 for Skins' 2nd round pick: None really: Ugoh, Steve Smith-Giants

Notables available in 2006 for Skins' 2nd round pick: Devin Hester, Maurice Jones-Drew

Notables available in 2005 for Skins' 2nd round pick: Corey Webster, Lofa Tatupu, Mike Nugent (K-Jets), Darrent WIlliams, Bryant McFadden. Yes, the Jets drafted a kicker in the 2nd round!

Notables available in 2004 for Skins' 2nd round pick: DEN drafted Tatum Bell with WAS pick. (Julius Jones, Bob Sanders, Tank Johnson, Devery Henderson)

Note: I of course realize that because these players were available does not make this pick easier. As we all know, scouting the success for a college athlete to a pro outside the first round is extremely difficult. 

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the larger problem

First, let’s not forget that Alex Buzbee also went down with a season-ending injury the same day as Daniels, making us even more desperate trade partners.

Second, the larger problem is that Snydrato’s preferred method of roster-management and team-building (free agency) doesn’t allow for the cap flexibility to implement Leonsis’ suggestion and build youth and depth through the draft. With the contract we’ve doled out over the years, there isn’t enough money leftover for any depth.

by artmonk4ever on Mar 11, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

At least we left exactly enough room to sign our 4 picks this year. A couple fans wrote into Redskins Nation asking if we did have room to sign the #13 overall pick, which Vinny confirmed we did. Haha, kinda scary that questions like that don’t have assumed answers!

by KevinE on Mar 11, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confidence-with the depth

The “larger problem” is as stated but I think it’s also with a mind set, which I believe is slowly changing with each and every failure. Which is to go out and purchase a “big name” to provide the next run at the Superbowl.

The Redskins carried the #4 defense with Taylor mostly irrelevant through out the 2008 season, hindsight shows that the depth was mostly available it just was not trusted. The Front office needs to find confidence in the players they have.
The Redskins again went out after the “big name”, they learned this time to at least go younger, hopefully he performs while the front office continues to learn that the depth available can perform.

Example Ryan Clark, Superbowl safety: Prior to being allowed to leave the Redskins he played two years with the Giants. He was released by the Giants, then due to injury got an opportunity to play with the Redskins, developed his game and is now a starting Superbowl winning Safety.
Not every player will be an instant success and while not designated as starters the players have earned a spot on the 53-man roster, when an injury occurs give them an opportunity. If they don’t perform then address the issue, if they do perform then you’ve found the next “diamond in the ruff” Play the backups when called upon due to injury.
The rambling point boils down to trusting the players you have and when injury occurs use the guys on the roster, adding players which DID not make the 53-man roster to back fill as required. And all of this coming from hind-sight of the JT trade, but it would be wise to use it now in some of the current situations where it appears the Redskins are weak.

Is Heyer/Jansen as right tackle worse than a Pace/Willis if the Redskins went and overspent to get them.
Is Fincher ready to break out in his 5th year under this Defensive program?
Signing Daniels to provide leadership for the DE, then is Wilson and Jackson ready to perform, can buzzbee return from his injury. An ok Breakdown over at Redskins.com use a draft pick on a DE, sign the KNOWN! vet DE and go with who’s on the Roster, a guy like Buzzbee at 23 could all of a sudden have the break out year, but it will never be known if he’s not given the opportunity when the opportunity arises.
Draft for the areas of need and go with the players on the roster.
The Front office has…
1. Improved the offensive line with Dock
2. Improved the defensive line with Albert
3. Added some interesting players(RB, KR) and setup kicking/punting challenges
Go with it, sign their own system players and focus on the 2009 season.

by dr WNC on Mar 11, 2009 12:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Excellent analysis, as usual

What about WR? Are Thomas/Kelly the solution? Do they have to be?

by artmonk4ever on Mar 11, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They need to come close..

We need them to step up in a big way. if we are going to address our issues at LB, DE and OL we can’t afford to spend money shoring up the receiving corps. I’ve been hearing good things about them so far this off season..willingness to work out, participation, etc..so I am keeping my fingers crossed that they “get it” and hit the ground running this season.

Slug

by Slug on Mar 11, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great News

Do you have a source for these rumors? Not trying to be a smarta— but just want to read it for myself…

by artmonk4ever on Mar 11, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bits from around the net. If you search on the team site you can find an article with Kelly, talking about how he’s past the knee thing and is eager to get into the spring workouts and start showing everyone what he can do, that he was worth it. On the blog.redskins site you can dig down and find a video interview with Devin Thomas talking about the offseason signings, but also mentioning that even now he is spending time at the park, working out and getting ready in order to be “the best player I can be”. I’m optimistic that it’s not just talk and that these two young men are able to take that next step that we need them to.

Also, if you want a smile on your face, check out the latest blog story on Thomas visiting a fan who had written in a letter. Good stuff. :)

Slug

by Slug on Mar 11, 2009 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhh

Meant to add that to the Slop this morning. Forgot. VERY good article/piece.

by KevinE on Mar 11, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thomas/Kelly

DO have to be the solution, I think. They both have the tools, and they both have the luxury of playing (right now) with Santana Moss who will continue to occupy defenses.

The issue with the pressure being on them is that due to needs elsewhere on our roster, we do not have the luxury to sign any more wide receivers. ARE was it. If we absolutely need another guy, it will have to come in the way of a training camp invitee that blows everyone’s skirts up, like a Mike Espy/Billy McMullen type looking for a chance to make a squad.

Which means that they need to be thrown into the fire on Day 1. Throw to them early and often. Let Moss sit out every pre-season game. Play those guys extensively.

Finally, if we do run out of receivers, I think we should put Haynesworth on the field. Hand it off to him, throw it to him, whatever. Direct snap to Haynesworth. We’ll get our $100 million out of him.

by Ken Meringolo on Mar 11, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Devin Thomas...

is represented by Rosenhaus. So, if he blows up like we expect/hope…I imagine Drew will make him sit until he gets a new contract in the upcoming uncapped year.

by KevinE on Mar 11, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

just for the picture of the girl.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 11, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice

HogsHaven is going to try and make this…it’s like 5 blocks from where I live.

http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Project_Cheerleader_Seminar_2044.jsp

by KevinE on Mar 12, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

please go and take photos

use your “credentials” as a blogger to get in for free!

by artmonk4ever on Mar 12, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

I already emailed the Director of Redskins cheerleader asking if I can swing by, and of course, “ask some questions involving the process since the Redskinettes are such an important piece of the game-day experience”. This seminar looks like a money-making machine to me…they do a bunch of them at $50 a head.

by KevinE on Mar 12, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 12, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Redskins replied..

That it is a closed session and I am not allowed in. Hopefully they’ll let me in on March 28th when the real try-outs begin.

by KevinE on Mar 13, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lame.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 15, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I love

the fact that she’s checking out her own boobies.

We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan

by DbacksSkins on Mar 12, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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