Redskins Free Agency Tracker
by Ken Meringolo on Mar 16, 2009 3:33 PM EDT
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We'll keep up with the latest signings & rumors of signings as the day goes on.
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Albert Hanesworth. I don’t think he’ll have motivation to play hard w/out a contract. Plus I’m still pissed about Danna Stubblefield.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 26, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions
DeAngelo agrees to terms
According to RI:
The CB has agreed to a deal worth a maximum of $55 million over 6 years, according to league sources. He will receive roughly $23 million guaranteed.
I hope this means we dump Springs and kiss Carlos’ ass so he wants to play here a while longer.
How do you guys feel about Canty?
NFL.Com's blog is way faster
at updating the FA action. Adam Schefter is the best NFL insider by far. I don’t like Carlos, he’s not consistant and can’t catch a cold.
My plan: Trade Rodgers for picks, try Smoot out at starting CB, cut Sprngs or move him to Saftey.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 27, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
I can't get on NFL.com!
Or ProFootballTalk.com. Driving me nuts!
by ReggieBullits on Feb 27, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
Try ESPN's blog
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Feb 27, 2009 12:54 AM EST reply actions
This may possibly
be THE single most awesome SBN story EVER……….
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
Haynesworth
Got his 100 mil….
from Danny.
Would love to see how we fit Hall and Haynesworth in and still be able to get somebody else.
cut shawn springs
sign dockery, draft the best olb or offensive linemen available at 13
rockin' the crab dribble since 2009
Haynesworth didn't get $100 mil...
He only got the signing bonus…so we can still cut him whenever. A lot of people say we “over-payid” for him for $100 mil….we haven’t spent $100 mil. Jim wanted me to emphasize this, which is true.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 27, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Dear God, I hope not.
I hate Manny.
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
I wouldn't mind that ...
paying Manny to sit on the Redskins bench.
Would that impact our cap, or would that be Danny doing the MLB a public service??
by matthiasstephan on Feb 28, 2009 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
Wait -- good point.
As a Dbacks fan, YES! SIGN MANNY, DANNY!!
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
Now these free agents...
will learn what 8-8 feels like.
And since it is Douche Snyder’s Redskins we’re talking about, what about signing Vick? I’m not suggesting it i’m just saying anything is possible with lil Dan and Vinny
No.
Michael Vick is teh suck at teh throwing, so I don’t see it happening.
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
Tag this to the top, there will be more to talk about.
Somehow I don’t think the skins are done
Great picture
Ugh
Obviously not shocked but…why Danny, why?? Does Haynesworth protect the Quarterback? Does Haynesworth open holes for CP? There can’t possibly be money left to sign Dock or any other Off. lineman with experience. This is like dumping your entire savings account into a brand new car stereo when the fucking car won’t even start.
Good thing the letters have already been sent saying ‘09 season tickets won’t be increasing in price.
Offense averaged close to 14 points
The defense is being built to not allow any scoring, Danny gave up on trying to fix the offense and went head over heels to make the defense #1.
And that's a good thing?
Well that’s just a brilliant move by him isn’t it? Hire an offensive head coach and then “give up on trying to fix the offense”. Brilliant. Skins offense was outscored by every team in the league but Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit, St. Louis, and Cincinnati, but let’s dump all the money into the defense. Brilliant. Zorn is doomed.
The defense was fine the way it was. #4 in the league. Gave up 18.5 points per game in ‘08. I’m not saying that Haynesworth doesn’t immediately improve the defense, but I’m saying that it’s obvious to everyone but Snyder apparently that the offensive line is where the real money needed to be spent, and whether or not that happens remain to be seen. But dumping $41 million guaranteed on one D-lineman isn’t a good start.
by ReggieBullits on Feb 27, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Skins are shopping Shawn Springs...
Jason Brown not likely…
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/02/sources-word-around-the-league/
Gah.
I wanted both Hall and Haynesworth, but I didn’t want to overpay.
The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.
"I didn't want to overpay"
Is there any other way with Snyder? I’m going to be very curious to see how we make room in the cap…need to cut more than Springs.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 27, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
you werent going to get
haynesworth otherwise. It’s worth the risk in my opinion
rockin' the crab dribble since 2009
I know, I know.
The more I think about it, the more I think they’re counting on an uncapped year.
The Washington Wizards: providing career scoring nights for unknown opposing bench players since 2004.
Dan Snyder is a freaking donkey!
He needs to build a team with DEPTH! Signing a single person for 100 million doesn’t leave a lot of room to sign other good talent!! When is this guy going to learn?
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
cdsumm (Craig), Whatever!
You know AH will be a force in the NFC East…this is not the the AFC North where they do not spend any money. If the owners do not extend the CBA, then next year is uncapped allowing the skins to outbid your poor dock and steel worker ass. The steelers of the 70’s were all on roids, so those SB wins do not count.
I'll bet $100
Says Haynesworth gets hurt before week 4.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 27, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Liger99 (Ted), Whatever!
I only wish the Steelers got another crack at the skins this year!! Actually, I think RFK is now classified as the Steelers home away from home; considering we outnumbered your fans last year 4 to 1!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
You know what I meant.
Now get back to work…..douchey douche!
The very existence of flamethrowers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done."
-George Carlin
Great move bad player
Albert is a geat defensive linemen but he probably is going to get injured before week 5 and hall was stright up stupid why would you pay a guy who got burned by a rookie WR Eddie Royal didn’t you see what happened to his with us (Raiders). That will led to another up and down season and missed playoffs.
Yeah, but
he was also playing with the Raiders then. When you’re trying to get your 3rd win in week 15, it’s tough to stay motivated.
Also, rookie or not, Royal is a damned good receiver.
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
DeAngelo played well here
But of course you have to question his motivation. I like that signing better then Big Al’s.
by ReggieBullits on Feb 27, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'm sure he will get hurt and miss games, but...
Titans were 20-5 last two years when he played and 1-5 without him. I will wait and see if we over-paid or not. He does dominate when he plays, which is a huge change from all of the other DS signings over the years. They need to draft OL now and I’ll be more than happy with the offseason.
Should this be a concern?
Although the Redskins and Titans run the 4-3 defense, there will be a transition for Haynesworth. In Greg Blache’s scheme, the defensive linemen are expected to play disciplined against the run by taking up blockers and letting the linebackers shoot the gaps. Tennessee’s system allowed Haynesworth to be aggressive at the snap, which accounted for his sack total.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/27/redskins-sign-haynesworth/?page=2
I’m guessing not…but look at Jason Taylor, when he was healthy he struggled with this scheme and was even vocal about it not being his style.
Taylor
also was forced to switch to the other side of the line. Playing against the right OT and playing against the left OT are two very different propositions — different styles required with each.
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
Skins Beat out 6 teams for Haynesworth
Is anyone buying this? I can’t imagine any other teams coming close to this amount of millions. Sure, we won, but how many millions less could Snyder have won him with?
Heard he took less from the skins
On Mike and Mike in the morning…..TB had offered more. I’m not sure why he would take less to come here unless Danny promised to cut and re-sign him if next year (and 2011) is uncapped. He would get paid twice that way. Beer price is now $12.
Haynesworth was great here
But it will be interesting to see if he will be the same with a different D-Line
We will miss him.
Welcome to Smashville, Tennessee.
by Aditya T (smashville) on Feb 27, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions
DeAngelo Hall
Let’s not gloss over the very real chance that he is at least partially a head-case. My thoughts though:
1) He behaved in his 7-game audition for us (and had 2 pickles)
2) Oakland will bring out the worst in any player…especially one who wants to win (let him prove that for us now)
3) In Atlanta…wasn’t he ABSOLUTELY RIGHT? I mean, Petrino was a total d-bag. He alienated players, had no clue how to handle that team, and then up and quit on the whole franchise. Now, maybe you don’t go about it the way DeAngelo did when he was there, but come on…he might have been dead on. And if he knew he was right all along, that had to have driven him nuts, which is, consequently, exactly how he acted.
Outsider vs others
Ok, So the Outsider who cannot even get interviews with Vinny
Sends everyone to Read Don Banks
Haynesworth, Hall deals raise troubling questions for Redskins
While a quick search over at ESPN you get
Haynesworth might be D.C.’s stimulus
It’s really in all of us, is it the same old Redskin story or is it the same money but with better information on the people being signed.
Only time will tell
Wow...
This deal looks a lot better now. The Giants were aggressively going after Fat Albert. Can you imagine our current O-Line trying to stop him + their 2 DEs. Good lord!!!!!
How many...
touchdowns is Haynesworth going to score this year? Wasnt the biggest problem last year scoring points, not defense?
I commented exactly that on Cooley's blog earlier today
Our D was already ranked top 10. HOW ARE WE GOING TO SCORE SOME POINTS? We ranked 28th averaging 17 points. Get us an O-line!
http://chriscooley47.blogspot.com/2009/02/redskins-news-today.html
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 27, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
More turnovers and more sacks
They will not have to go 80 yards every time to score. This helps the O big time. Last year the skins had to put 10 play drives to gether in order to score. Was the Ravens Offense better than the Skins last year? Hell no. But they scored 120 points more. 120! The Skins had lots of trouble overcoming a sack or holding call or dropped pass…that always killed a drive. They had to be pretty much perfect for 10 plays in a row to get points. This way they may need to go 5-6 plays for points. With the WC offense you get short 5 yard plays at a time…sometimes they hit a big play, but not the skins last year. This helps the O and don’t tell me that the Ravens scored defensive tds to increase their numbers….that would be making my point. They need to draft OL now or get Dock back.
huh?!?!
don’t tell me that the Ravens scored defensive tds to increase their numbers
How can I not say this? Redskins had ZERO Tds and Ravens had 6! That’s a big difference. We are keeping our corners and safeties from last year. We had 13 INTs to the Ravens…26!! These two D’s are not comparable. Turnovers mean everything.
To say that our 2 D’s were the same is completely absurd. I agree with you 100% field position should be better…but even as Zorn said…when we did get to the good side of the 50-yard line, we stalled. If you want to make the point that Haynesworth will free up the DEs to rush the QB into stupider passes, and thus more INTs…then I could agree. A lot of IFs there though.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 27, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
What's the problem
with becoming an elite defense? We certainly weren’t amazing last year and this might put us over the top. Also, how could they improve their offense in the off season? They already got dockery what more should they do?
rockin' the crab dribble since 2009
my bad...
I read that wrong..he was talking about Offense and I read that as defense….the Ravens O was definitely not better than ours.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Feb 28, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Im A Lions Fans And I Gotta Ask....
….hwoever knows the Washington cap Staus this queston. The were 8 mil under when free agency began. The released spring which makes 14 mil. They singed haynesworth to 13 a year….that makes 1 under. Hall to 8 mil a year….thats 7 over and Docerky to 5 thats 12 over……I say good job on the signing of Dockery. Who will you guys cut to get that 12 mi covered?
by BennieBladesFan on Feb 28, 2009 7:43 AM EST reply actions
Depends how the deals are structured.
The guaranteed portion of the contract is the only prorated part. I am deeply skeptical that Haynseworth costs the Redskins 14M in cap his first year. You backload these contracts so that the amounts of salary are much higher in the later years, typically.
It’ll be interesting to see these contracts since the players and their agents should essentially assume that 2011 won’t have NFL fooball. It wouldn’t make financial sense for an agent/player to go into negotiations assuming the CBA will get settled, and if it doesn’t the owners will more than likely lockout 2011. So the players, throughout this free agency, are probably going to lean towards as much guaranteed money as they want. I really want to see Y2 of Haynesworth’s contract, since that is the uncapped year.
But to answer your question, we won’t need to cut 12M dollars of players, but we will need to cut someone. Just because a contract averages X amount per year doesn’t mean it costs X per year. The earlier years are typically much lower than the later ones.
Although I should...
given the CBA issue these contracts probably won’t be “typical”. So they might not be AS backloaded as contracts in the past. I’d like to see Haynesworth’s contract.
doesn't matter
I don’t think we have to cut anybody. I think your numbers are off. We were well under after retructuring 4 contracts and releasing Washington and Springs. Also, Daniels contract voide out at midnight.
Eagles lost Buckhalter too
Guess they’re counting on 2nd year RB Tony Hunt (Penn State) to fill in when (not if) Westbrook goes down. Or maybe they’ll be grabbing a RB in the later rounds. You have to think they’ll go WR early in the draft again this year.
Giants get Canty
Giants adding to an already strong Defense, like the Redskins.
The East will remain a beast
Haha...
So fitting since that Gmail Hack post I put up…I joked about JLC not getting info quickly….and that was before this news piece just happened.
S'okay.
I’m sure we have someone else on the roster to not play DE.
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
cap
I wonder where we stand cap-wise. I would think that we have enough right now to grab somebody or re-sign Evans. i would suspect that we draft ol, de, olb in that order in the draft. Then a punter with the fourth pick. Vinny says if you’re not drafting punters, you don’t know how to build a team.
de
I wonder if Rob Jackson is ready to get things done. His job is made easier by AH. If not, what about Cris Wilson?
Needs some weightgainer 3000 in bad way.
Bad against the run. Good spin move. I like him in the rotation, but not starting.
TTB!
by Ach on Mar 2, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Lito
…and by “Eagle lose Lito” you mean Eagles trade Lito?
by Wilbert Montgomery on Mar 2, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions
DE-Is there a need
Taylor provides 8.5M buffer to the Salary cap, wonder how much more is available.
DE listed on the roster:
90 Buzbee, Alex DE 6-3 265 1 Georgetown 11-27-1985
99 Carter, Andre DE 6-4 252 8 California 05-12-1979
98 Jackson, Rob DE 6-4 259 R Kansas State 11-03-1985
95 Wilson, Chris DE 6-4 246 2 Northwood 07-10-1982
Pick back up Evans and that’ll provie 5 DE on the roster…
Numbers are good but what about the strength? Carter and who….
Carter and
Orakpo.
Yeah Buzbee! Went to Georgetown at the same time I did. First Georgetown pro football player in something like 40 years! Maybe he actually doesn’t get injured this year…
We are truly in the presense of greatness here…-- unnamedDBacksfan
Suisham
I just gotta say I hope I know what the Skins are doing. He better being hitting 50 yarders in practice no problem. I mean, his foot won us a couple of those games in that early 6-win run…then the wheels really fell off.
I guess Raynor will add competition, but lets be real…it’s Shizaam for another year.
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