Redskins Lose (yet) Another Close One
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 7, 2009 10:53 AM EST
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Is Dave Rayner still available?
Man, I just don't have words to describe this loss. Shame on me for thinking the game was won as the Skins lined up for that botched FG. We all knew the burgundy and gold had to play a perfect game and wow, they were far from it.
The Kareem Moore fumble is just baffling. I've never seen anything like it. Laron Landry's missed interception was frustrating as well. It certainly was nice seeing the offense make plays but come on.
For the first time ever I can say the Redskins play-calling was COMPLETELY unpredictable. Throwing the ball on first downs. 42 passes and 25 rushes. That's what I like to see.
Haynesworth: We went toe to toe with I guess the best team in the NFL, and I guess we lost by a decision. I won't say it's a knockout, but a decision.
"Strangest game I’ve ever been a part of," Campbell said.
"I wish there was something I could do," Suisham said. "I owe an apology to my teammates, the fans, Mr. (Dan) Snyder." Regarding the kick: "The operation was perfect."
"We had a chance to put it away," running back Rock Cartwright said. "Never seen anything in my life like this."
Andre Carter said, "This shows we constantly come back [from discouraging defeats]. We haven't given up on the season. We still want to compete."
"Three weeks where you're up in the fourth quarter and lose all three of them -- that's tough," center Casey Rabach said. "I've never been a part of anything like that. That one's beyond me."
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3rd and goal
I’ll tell you when I felt things were going to go wrong: Just before the two minute warning we were milking the clock at our goal line. As the clock ran down close to 2 minutes, we had to start the play. I so wanted Campbell to do a play action rollout instead of another run. It would have had the clock down to 2 minutes as well as a run, but everyone was keyed for the run. It would have surprised the defense, too, and be a pretty safe play, giving JC a chance to run it in, throw it do Davis or just toss it away. But a run play?! That part was predictable. And it didn’t even center the ball for the FG try. shakes head
I hate watching the Moore/Meachem replay. How in the world did he have 3 lead blockers and none of them took Meachem out? I think there’s a drill that needs to be run more often.
I agree completely
I didn’t understand not taking a shot at the end zone with a pass considering it was the two minute warning.
BUT, we shouldn’t have to worry about centering the ball for a 23 yard field goal.
Kareem Moore
From where I was sitting it seemed to me that he was down by contact when he first intercepted the ball. Was he not?
And again for Mike Sellars I could of sworn his entire forearm was down before the ball came loose. Am I just being biased?
That was a hell of a game, I’m loving the heart that this team is showing us they have. Haven’t seen that in years, hopefully they’ll get a much deserved win next week against the Raiders.
He was. And it wasn't an Interception to begin with.
One angle, which Fox only showed once, showed it clearly hit the ground, out of his arms.
From where I was sitting it seemed to me that he was down by contact when he first intercepted the ball. Was he not?
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
yeah when the saints guy tried to catch it, it clearly hit the ground and bounced through his arms to Moore
and I thought he was down if they did rule it a catch.
by BayAreaBullet on Dec 7, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Man
that was one strange game and you seem to be finding different ways to lose each game.
Does this fill you with hope for 2010 or a fear that nothing will change and it will be the same next season as this season and the season before.
It certainly seems like Davis is benefitting from playing time and Thomas is showing signs that 2010 could be a breakout year for him.
You still play spoiler in the NFC East so do you have any preference over who wins the East or putting it another way which teams do you not want to win it!
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions
I'll speak for most
Since we know that we’re not winning the NFC East, we would only prefer that the cowbelles don’t win it either. The iggles and giants can duke it out all they want. just beat up the bastards from texas.
Well we
did our part last night for you.
by G Fan in England on Dec 7, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
CarverM?
He felt so good about the Dallas game, that he must be absolutely tickled by the way this one played out.
I agree
totally
For the first time ever I can say the Redskins play-calling was COMPLETELY unpredictable.
EXCEPT for the last two field goal drives. We throw all the way downfield, then revert back to our VERY PREDICTABLE running game in the Red Zone. What are we, SCARED TO WIN? Boo and I were going back and forth on this during the game, and it bugs me even more now. How do you change up your playcalling when you get closer to scoring? DO what got you there!! That what the Saints did.
We can be pissed at the refs all we want (and believe me, I am), but at the end of the day, WE could have taken the game out of their hands, and we chose to play for the field goal instead. Forget about playing against the #1 offense, we should be trying to beat ANY team we play against. The playoffs have long since been out of reach. All we’re playing for is pride. Do you think it makes those players proud to know they curled up into the fetal position for two of those drives? ESPECIALLY after having their way with the Saints’ defense the rest of the day? I don’t.
I wonder if Zorn was calling those plays
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 7, 2009 12:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who knows but...
Any questions about a HC change are answered in that comment.
Zorn is not a head coach or a play caller.
In his conference today
Zorn said that he decided to run. I’m assuming the particular play was called by Sherman.
Don't blame the kicker
Two things cost us this game. The first is our coaching staff is now terrified of taking risks. They now subscribe to the Joe Gibbs 2.0 run the ball up the middle 3 times and kick (be it a punt or a FG try). The 3 plays preceding Suisham’s miss were embarrassing.
But the biggest reason the Skins lost yesterday was the continued poor play of Roy Williams at safety. Wait, what’s that? Roy Williams doesn’t play safety for the Skins? Sure looked like he did to me. If I hear one more person talk about how great Dirty Laundry played the run yesterday I’m going to be sick. How about playing some safety? You know, the last line of defense that should NEVER get caught on a double move? Certainly not twice in the same game on the same play! Landry is an immature clown who has no clue how to play his postion. I don’t care if he had six sacks and 15 tackles at the line of scrimmage. Your safety can’t get beat on ordinary routes for long TDs twice in the same game. Goat – your name is Dirty Laundry.
normally I don't like blaming kickers
but a 27 yarder is inexcusable.
I agree with your other criticisms
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Landry's mistakes were inexcusable, no doubt
But, if he doesn’t get torched on those plays, who know’s what happens. The Saints still may score if Landry doesn’t bite on those moves. Brees is on fire, and can beat you any number of ways.
On the other hand, is Suisam makes that chip shot, then the game is all but over. Definitely DO blame the kicker. To say him missing that 23 yarder didn’t cost us the game is wrong.
Their was a number of plays that lost that game
Not the least of which was Landry getting burned. Look at those plays objectively though, Brees has been doing that to EVERY TEAM he’s played against. He was throwing underneath and double pumping all day long to get Landry to bite. That is why the Saints are 12 – 0. However, Landry is not why the Skins are 3- 8. If that play doesn’t happen before the half or the missed field goal or a few other plays I could throw in their then nobodys talking about Landry except that he played a good game. The point being is that this is the culture of the Redskins and it’s being going on for a good ten years now when you look back it. Let me guess what comes next……….hmnn……….if it wasn’t for Landy………..or we’re only one player away now……………………. hahahahhaha…..I’ve heard that for a loooong time.
Those two plays aren’t going to change the fact that Redskins haven’t won the division in a gazillion years or the Vinny Ceratto can’t pick out mid round talent.
It’s so hilarious to watch everyone go up in arms over games like these. Here’s a tip, the Redskins have been losing games like this for over ten years now and will continue to as long as the only constants remain with this team, until then settle in and get used to the circus.
I have no problem with the three plays before the missed kick
Terrified of taking risks? The team threw the ball almost twice as much as they ran it. The idea is to maximize your chance to win, and that’s exactly what Zorn (or whoever called those plays) did. It bled clock and forced the Saints to use all of their timeouts. Sometimes that involves pushing the envelope, sometimes it doesn’t. The only time I might have thrown the ball was on 3rd down, because the clock was going to stop for the 2:00 warning regardless (the snap was at about 2:02).
Other than that, well, there is a fine line between “aggressive” and “stupid,” and throwing the ball around with the attendant risk of sacks, turnovers and incompletions (stopping the clock) in that situation comfortably moves to the “stupid” side of the line. The field goal percentage on that is upwards of 99%, and even without it the Saints had to drive 80 yards for a tying score (the fact that they did so underlines your “biggest reason” of course). But because the ‘Skins lost, Zorn gets reamed for “not going for it.” If he “goes for it” by throwing it around and therefore either (a) gives up a turnover (and we’ve seen 100 yard INT returns) or (b) leaves an extra minute + timeouts for the Saints to work with, well he gets reamed for that, too.
Temporal causation (B follows A, therefore A caused B) doesn’t hold up. Zorn went for the win, but the kicker choked. I don’t wish Suisham ill, but firing him is the right move. At long last, accountability.
at long last?
horton and rogers getting benched was the start of this thing (still don’t agree with the horton benching, but whatever)
SpotieOtieDopalicious
Game's not even in question if Landry plays his position.
1 player cost the team 14 points. 1 player cost the team 3 points. I think the loss is firmly on Landry and if this staff has any balls he’s inactive next week.
the difference is dude
Landry made other plays in that game that contributed to the win, Suisham only contributed to losing us the game
Pommylee
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