Redskins' Broken Record on Infinite Loop
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 3, 2009 1:15 PM EST
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Part of my daily routine on my Metro ride to work is reading the free copies of the Washington Post Express and Washington Examiner. The Examiner has much better Skins coverage in the free edition, so reading John Keim and Rick Snider's take is quite enjoyable.
There was one section of Rick Snider's article today that no joke made my mind swirl so much I obliviously missed my stop. You'll know the part I'm referring to when you get to it:
Washington can't expect left tackle Chris Samuels to return. Not from stenosis that could paralyze him. Forget signing a free agent. Nobody lets a quality tackle loose.
Instead of spending the first-rounder on Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, invest in Oklahoma State left tackle Russell Okung.
This dilemma illustrates the franchise's core problem -- owner Dan Snyder preferring glamour positions to linemen. A Redskins official told me the 2002 draft plan was to take a guard in the first round only to be vetoed by Snyder, who instead chose quarterback Patrick Ramsey.
AHHHHHHHH. Steve Spurrier, I owe you a watered down apology. How familiar do the Zorn and Spurrier situations resemble each other? Bring in an offensive mind and make him draft marquis players despite the obvious problem of offensive line woes.
Seriously, I love covering the Redskins and writing for Hogs Haven, but how many more years can I take of writing the same mistakes Snyderatto make year in and year out? It was not a Guard heavy draft in 2002, though the Cowboys did draft Gurode 5 picks after the Redskins selected Ramsey with the 32nd pick overall.
So let's see. Snyder was wrong with Ramsey (though we'll never know since he had zero protection). It's clear Cutler would have set this franchise back further given his attitude and lack of clutch productivity. Sanchez? Jury is still out but no rookie could produce with this type of protection.
Word of advice for all the young guns coming out of college, stay away from the Redskins if you want a long career. Given Snyder's eye for talent, whoever he likes, we can assume he'll be a bust.
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God his resume just gets worse and worse
A Redskins official told me the 2002 draft plan was to take a guard in the first round only to be vetoed by Snyder, who instead chose quarterback Patrick Ramsey.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
The best part
is how little has changed.
The beginning of this article is Peter King-esk, all you had to include was a dump you took in a public restroom.
PK
I should have concluded the article with 4 paragraphs about how great Brett Favre is.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 3, 2009 1:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Nit-picking here but I think it’s “marquee” player, not “marquis.”
Oh, and yes, draft a lineman…like the Giants, Cowboys, Eagles do every year.
That is all.
Marquis de Sade will, too.
So I think you were partially correct originally, Kevin. Only a sadomasochist would come out this year and play QB for the ’Skins.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
One of the better
“my Momma” jokes I’ve ever heard.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
This is a key point overlooked by many
The rest of the NFC East is consistently contending for the division title, while the Redskins sit back and observe, and every once in a while we squeak into a wild card playoff spot. The reason we’ve been the whipping boys of the NFC East for the last decade is that all three of the other teams consistently draft o-linemen year after year, while the Redskins take one every 5 years or so. Offensive line is arguably the most important aspect of any great offense. The Saints have a great offense. Admittedly I can’t name anybody on their offensive line, but I bet they are DAMN good given how well that offense is playing. If you have a top offensive line in this league, then you will most likely be in the playoffs. Danny needs to get this drilled into his head for us to finally move forward as a legit franchise!
Saints oline is very good
3rd best in both fewest qb sacks allowed & qb hits.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 3, 2009 3:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Do you know
their composition from a draft pick number or FA perspective?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
RT- Stinchcomb – drafted 2nd R, ’03
RG- Evans – drafted 4th R, ’06
C- Goodwin – FA from Jets, ’08
LG- Carl Nicks – drafted 5th R, ’08
LT- Bushrod (ha) – drafted 4th R, ’07, replaced Pro Bowler Jammal Brown, placed on IR week 1, drafted 1st R, ’05
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
And yes, it's very good
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
So I'm thinking
we should avoid castaways, crawl-ons, undrafted college kids from the mid-Atlantic region, poster children from Weight Watchers, and generally the entire cast of Gilligan’s Island?
Why, that would only leave interior linemen from the upper echelons of college football and young, promising FAs from teams with a surplus of good linemen, Batman. This building a football team is HARD.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Notice that aside from Jammal Brown
none of those guys were drafted in the 1st round. How great it must be to have good talent scouts. Ugh.
and you just have to hoard picks
it’s not easy finding 4th round starters, but if you take as many 4th rounders as possible, you find one eventually.
if you give away all kinds of picks like candy, it makes it much harder to hit on them.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
YES, THANK YOU!!
I believe the NE Patriots have something like 16 draft picks hoarded up (at least they had them during last year’s draft). Don’t believe for a second that they are not going to trade up for Okung or Williams or both. We might be able to get 3-4 lower round picks for them and do the shotgun approach as you suggested. Depends on how the FFO feels about the line vs QB…it’s always a frickin’ mystery with these idiots.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Our FFO can't succeed with a shotgun approach
I’m more inclined for them to have the high draft pick where the player to be taken is obvious. Assuming, of course, they don’t take a QB.
NE Defense is
old and bad…you don’t sign a 40 year-old Junior Seau unless you know you are bad. Not to mention the famous 4th-2 play call instead of punting verse Indy. I doubt they try to move up in the draft to get a top OL…they need to draft defense.
With Merriweather and Mayo their D has gotten younger
It’s played well this year.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
They use the best player available model every year.
Okung is going to be taken before the skins have a chance to get him, unless they’re picking 2nd or 3rd. The next best tackle is NOT going to be worthy of their pick position which right now looks like it’s going to be in the 4 – 9 range. I’m not saying he’s not going to be worthy, Dan and his guru’s are. They have been doing this for the past 7 or 8 years. Last year they skipped over Oher if you want proof of this. It’s Dans business mind that fails to transfer to the football side and as a result the offensive line has slipped through the cracks for years now. He’s not going to pay a player that’s projected in the 10 – 20 range, 5 – 10 type of money and this is where the real problems lurks, their talent evaluating. Enter Vinny Ceratto, who needs to find a way to fill the holes in respectively. We’ve seen how that has gone the past 10 years.
The worst thing they could do is trade up for Bradford or Okung because they usually end up giving a half years draft away. If had to place a bet right now I’d say both of these guys will be gone before we pick which looks more and more like one thing, hello Jimmy Clausen!
Regarding our FFO's RIW
I can think of only one good application for the right hand of Touchdown Jesus….and it would hurt A LOT.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Okung may not be gone
lets look at who has what left….
1-10
Cleveland
St. Louis
Tampa Bay
2-9
Detroit
3-8
’Skins
Oakland
KC
who needs QB’s? I’d say St. Louis, Oakland and maybe even Cleveland may all be in the market
So lets play what if….
If the ‘Skins lose to Oakland and their remaining games…
If Detroit beats Chicago (and they get them at home)
If Tampa Bay improves (they’ve shown signs of it) and they have some winnable games against the Jets, Carolina, and Seattle.
Cleveland has yet to play either Oakland or KC
The ‘Skins at 3-13, if tied with the likes of Detroit and KC, would likely pick above them based on head to head, same would apply to Oakland (if the ’Skins lose). In that nighmarish scenario, it’s more than likely that the "Skins could be picking as high as 2 (unlikely, but not unthinkable) and maybe even more possible selecting 3rd. before you all shout me down, remember our expectations starting this year, how many of you had us pencilled in at 6-2 or 5-3 after the first 8 games? Who had NO being 11-0 and Tennessee starting at 0-6 and Cinncinnati leading the AFC North?
So it is possible that Okung may just be there, or if not, it may be possible for the team to trade down and grab OT Trent Williams out of Oklahoma or even OLB Witherspoon from Mizzou and recoup a third rounder to get an OT or OG later. Especially if someone is in love (or rather in need) with either Bradford or McCoy (much less Tebow, who knows, Al Davis is still in charge isn’t he?)
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
All wishful thinking...
If the Skins draft 6th and Okung is there…Snyder will still take a QB. Campbell is gone after this year and there are zero QB free agents this year….
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I can see it now
Redskins switch to a wishbone offense with Tebow, Cartwright and Betts. LOL. It would probably actually be a better offense than what we have going right now. At least we know Tebow is big enough of a man to take the kind of pounding he’s going to get here for 2-4 years.
No Florida, either!
At least not coaches or QBs.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Simple Solution
with our 1st round, 4th overall pick, take an O-Lineman.
Next: Package up Laron and/or C.rogers along with EVERY SINGLE other draft pick for some other teams 1st round choice, and take another lineman.
Why would anyone
give up a 1st round pick for Laron and/or the Hands of Stone?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
No.
First rounders are expensive. We need to hoard 2nd and 3rds
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Can we do anything about the Spam on this blog?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
yea, i just deleted the comment and banned the user
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 4, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
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