but it looks like Captain Chaos would be the one to go then (Dammit!).

MY only thing would be to keep them both for one year, just to make sure Sleepy wasn’t a flash in the pan (I don’t think so but like we all say, it wouldn’t hurt.)

Don’t the Ravens need receiver help? Why not see what we could get from them for ARE?

If GM Allen feels Davis is capable, then I would attempt to maximize the return for Cooley (even if “only” a 2nd rd pick) because, in the end, we need the draft picks to sustain longterm health.

I vote move anyone with value.

Cooley is coming off an injury that could hurt his trade value, and there’s the chance that Davis was just a one year wonder (if you even want to call it that) like Rekka said. So keep them both and see what we can do. That gives whoever is our quarterback next year two reliable options.

I doubt the premise of the question basically because I don’t think you get a second round pick for either TE. Yes, the Saints gave up a 2nd for Shockey, but Shockey (as we know) is wildly overhyped and the Saints bought it. I’ll bet if you asked them again they’d keep the pick. Cooley has a large contract and is coming off an injury, and Sleepy has had a half of a productive receiving season crammed into two years (and his blocking, while better than last year, still ain’t great). On top of that is the sheer number of good young TEs that have come into the league the past couple of years. Higher supply cuts demand, period.

From a team standpoint, I’d keep both and put one of the players into an H-Back kind of role. Let Cooley work his way back and Davis establish himself, and then see what your options are.

It couldn’t be any better than having 2 excellent tight ends. When are we going to start worrying about winning instead of the players feelings. Dangle them both out their, whoever brings the biggest return goes. It’s that simple. Cooley has at least 2-3 very good years in him, so it doesn’t matter who stays although I’d prefer Davis stays because he’s younger, much, much cheaper and his best years are ahead of him. Also, if he’s going to be after a huge contract in his FA year, than that means he has value and with a new GM he has possible trade value also, bringing in more picks possibly. WOW what a novel idea. Don’t forget Yoder is here to backup either one.

Cooley built a home, so what! It’s not like he has money problems or ever will. If Bruce Allen is worried about hurting the players feelings, then not much is going to change. This situation reminds me of the Portis/Bailey trade. I can see Vinny swapping Davis for someone of a lesser value, throwing a pick in, and then paying Cooley till he’s 38 at 7 or 8 mil a year. Not exactly the same situation, but you get the idea.

Lets’s hope those days are gone.

This whole conjecture rests on the idea that Fred Davis is a “Pro-Bowl level tight end.” Since when is that the case? Chris Cooley was literally our best player before he went down this season. Fred Davis is a nice addition, but he doesn’t control the game like Cooley did. Part of Davis’ strength was that no one knew who he was, so he got away with not being covered or game-planned against like Cooley did.

I am definitely not ready to give up on Cooley or anoint Davis as a great tight end. He had some drops and is not NEARLY as capable of a blocker as Cooley is. I say keep both. Lots of offenses use two tight-end sets, and at worst, we can put Cooley in as h-back/fullback and run him out of the backfield sometimes.

I am certainly not ready to give up on Cooley, because a 2nd round pick does not by any means guarantee a good return on the investment, and Davis is not an equal player to Cooley… not even close.

By the way, on a team with a weak o-line and no receivers, how can it be bad to have two guys who can block and catch passes and create mismatches? Just sayin’.

to keep both? I mean, just imagine a 2 tight end set like that? Sure, the offensive line needs to be patched (errrrr…… demolished and then reconstructed), but let’s say the OL is halfway decent toward the end of next year, or into 2011. Cooley and Davis as receiving threats on both sides of the line would be amazing. I think it would create a lot of chaos for opposing D’s throughout the league. It would also play to a receiving strength – the WR’s certainly aren’t the best receivers on the team. Over the past few seasons, Cooley has been the best pass catcher, and over the last few weeks of the season, Davis has emerged as so. It would get guys that don’t deserve to be on the field, and who don’t contribute, off of the field.

Now to address the concerns of blocking, I still would like to see Davis improve. Sure, he has shown that he can be better than Cooley, but I think there is still work to be done.

I know it is kind of off the charts and kind of a dream to think of them both being on the field for this team, considering all of the needs there are. However, I think it would actually be a good move.

As much as I love Cool, and want him to retire a Redskin and enjoy that big fine house, the fact is this is the NFL, guys get traded or cut, and this team needs to rebuild logically instead of emotionally. Cools had a MAJOR injury, he’s been in the league a few years, and he’s valuable to someone else, and WE NEED TO BUILD A TEAM.

Use him right, and he could prove more valuable to us than Hershel Walker was for Jimmie Johnson in building 1990s Dallas—and don’t forget, Walker came back to the Cowgirls in the end anyway.

Not so fast on trading one of our great TEs. We finally have depth at a key position, and already we want to trade one of them? Let’s hang onto both until we see how the offseason progresses. If it does come to a trade, the value of a good TE will only increase as teams get desperate if their starter goes down in camp (Think Jason Taylor here – how many picks did he cost us?) If we don’t run many dual-TE formations – then start! Obviously the one-TE formations did nothing for us this season. And let’s not forget what brought about this conversation – Cooley going on IR. What if we trade one of these guys and the same thing happens to the remaining TE in 2010? Then what?

The only trades we should be considering now are vets who could offer other teams some depth in exchange for mid-late round picks. Portis (and Campbell?) come to mind for this type of transaction. We also need to give Bruce Allen a chance to bring in some football people to put our front office and scouting staff in order.

Not sure who would be a good choice for HC. Shanahan didn’t do much post-Elway, but I don’t know who else is out there right now. I think the key to attracting a good HC is to demonstrate that Allen is really running the show, not just a front for Snyder. Good coaches are attracted to good organizations, and right now we just don’t have that in Washington. Hopefully that turns around quickly.

cooley is a proven vet,yet still young no way u trade him,i like fred davis,but come on 8 games started and people are ready to get rid of proven pro bowl TE! keep both for now,i dont know if its possible but could fred be a wr,might be to slow on routes,but just a thought if not,keep the depth and run 2 TE sets! i just cant see trading cooley for a player who has had 4-5 good games!

Unfortunately I think one of them will be going unless we move Yoder over to replace Sellers’s backup. Point is between Cooley Davis Yoder Sellers and Williams one if not two will probably be going.

I know we could use a good pass-catching TE who is also a capable blocker. Davis or Cooley could be a good fit, assuming Davis isn’t a flash in the pan like some people mentioned above. Make it happen!

First off, hello everyone I’m new to this relatively but I’ve been reading you all posts for awhile now. Okay back to the topic…yea everyone loves Cooley as we all should but Davis is not a fluke. He’s alot more explosive and more importantly…younger; huge upside. If we could get a second round pick for Cooley, that carries more value than Cooley alone. Even if Cooley is better than Davis, its a small dropoff at a not that demanding position for possibly the best or second best interior lineman in the draft or perhaps a stud linebacker; now thats more valuable. And not to mention, after cooley’s injury whose to say he’ll ever be the same, his value is at its highest right now, why not capitalize, sorry Cooley.

A second round pick is huge…there’s still first round talent their and we’ll have two picks in that one round. I think we could use a linebacker or an end with 1 or 2 o-lineman.

But i think linebacker or lineman has waaaaaay more value. Good scouting can land us a rb in the later rounds and even an developmental project at Qb can pan out in the later rounds, that way we dont have to give him top dollar. And if I’m not mistaken the under the radar qb’s at smaller schools tend to be very successful and if not… hey can’t call him a bust because he was a late round pick

For all the Davis doubters have no fear. He is the the truth. And will be a BEAST! Especially in a Shanahan offense. But yes their is stiil a small risk but I see a bigger reward. Keep Davis (more dynamic than Cooley). Get an interior lineman or best (maybe second best) linebacker in the draft makes waaayyy more sense to me. Lets face it guys TE position is not nearly as important as others. Why keep both, it doesn’t make sense at all. Who in the hell wants an double TE offense!! PLEASE!!! That’ll be too easy to cover and not to mention Davis is a weapon not really hardnose kinda TE that likes to put his hands in the dirt every play. We need to get him in the open field not make the defense put 8 in the box like they always do aginst us

Both Davis and Cooley can Co-exist and help improve the Redskins passing game. First of all, Chris is a very crafty and intelligent football player. His pass catching and route running makes him a hard cover for Linebackers and Defensive Ends. And too, he is too strong for the average size Cornerback. Cooley is far a better run blocker. I would suggest moving Cooley to Fullback, allowing him to be more involve in all aspects of the offensive game. At the moment, Sellers is holding down that position, yet he is not the player Cooley is. Cooley’s pass catching ability and blocking skills far exceed Sellers’. In the West Coast Offense, you need a FB that can heavily produce in both offensive schemes. Cooley will easily solve this problem. Also, he is about 6 years younger than Sellers, who is on the down side of a solid career. In Davis, you are getting a player destint for greatness. He has displayed great hands, great speed and quickness at the position, field awareness and decent route running in his second season. Davis has relished the opportunity giving to him by Cooley’s injury and is looking for a greater role in the offense in 2010. Washington did not spend a second round pick on a player to remain a backup. Eventually, he was to spill Cooley at the position, however, that time has come sooner than expected. Rid the team of Sellers and look forward to the mismatches both Cooley and Davis will provide in the passing game, assuming both remain teammates and offensive starters in a DYSFUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATION. I can visualize both Cooley and Davis catching 60 balls apiece next season as Wide Receivers Kelly and Thomas continue progress into legitimate NFL WRs. Both have showed promise, yet neither has made the impact Davis has when given the opportunity. The future looks bright at the skill positions. Now just sign Campbell to a 3-year deal so the development can continue. The 2010 Draft needs are OLs, LBs and RBs. Washington is a few good picks from being a team builded for playoff contention.

i’d mucha rather have an additional 2nd rounder to add another lineman or linebacker. Lets remember our strength here. DEFENSE! We have to continue to build around our young talent ORAKPO and also haynesworth. To me thats more value then having two legit tight ends. We can get a starter at linebacker in the 2nd round easy. Keeping our defense strong is more important than anything or we’ll have waisted talent, let get astable and keep it. There is also a slight posssibility that Cooley won’t return in the same form after that injury.

We have bigger problems we are in dire need of a coach and respective coaches for the offense and defense next step would be to acquire some youger talent for our linebacker corps and last but least is Collins our QB or not make a decision then implement a system and let him develop rather than learning a different system every year.Cooley and Davis will work it self out think about it either player could be succeptible to sustain injury next season leaving us a very capable backup anyway the chips fall keep them both.

Dude did you say Fred davis and Pro Bowl in the same sentence? Woah easy now.

Davis is a nice backup who can’t block a lick..repeat…a TE that can’t block…OK

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>> After all, both are better than Jeremy Shockey

child please… I’m a life long Skins fan…but neither of these guys is better than Shockey…and Davis isn’t even a starter….