Recap: Redskins Limp to End of Season with Cowboys Drubbing; Worst Decade Ever
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 28, 2009 10:10 AM EST
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PrintIt is cruel to the players, coaches, and fans to allow Zorn to continue to be the head coach of this team. An interim coach should have been put in weeks ago, yet all of us have to endure this joke of a management. We all know Zorn was in over his head from the start, but this is like watching a cat that has been run over by a car clinging for life. Someone please put this thing out of it's misery.
Joe Gibbs was in attendance last night to pay his respect for the late George Michael. Why not bring him out of the box and put a headset on him at half? The fans deserve something better than the coaching I witnessed last night.
Punting the ball with 5 minutes left in the game down 17. Really coach?
Not kicking the field goal to avoid the shut out? Really coach? I guess you're OK with being the only Redskins skipper in the 50-year history of this rivalry to get shutout by the Cowboys. Hip-hip-HOORAY!
The players have their jobs to play for, but how can you evaluate talent when you have a coach that has lost the locker room? All of his recent gambles have failed miserably, and I can't think of anyone who believes in Zorn at this point.
Haynesworth and Ken Harvey (from my talk with him last week) both made good points: It's not fair to a player to label him a bust if he is being used incorrectly. I don't think Jesus could accurately evaluate this squad. Mr. Snyder ended the decade just like he started it: A losing team with a carousel of coaches and multiple top-priced free agents.
John Riggins and Zorn's incompetency helped expose the front office problems, but this is not a ship that will be righted in the next couple years.
Post/Times/Examiner's take after the jump »
Mike Wise [WaPost]
Two years after Joe Gibbs's first retirement, the Redskins did not win a single division game. Two years after his second retirement, 0-for-the-NFC East has been embarrassingly repeated.
Jason Reid [WaPost]
Although it is debatable where the disappointing 2009 season ranks among the worst in Washington Redskins franchise history, this much is fact: The team had won at least one game against NFC East opponents for 14 consecutive seasons. It didn't this season.
Tom Boswell [WaPost]
Discipline isn't optional in football. It is the very core of the NFL enterprise. That sense of both self-restraint and dedication, as well as group accountability, starts at the top with ownership, flows through the front office and down through the coaching staff to players. And that is what the Redskins lack at every level.
Rick Maese [WaPost]
Citing unnamed sources, NBC reported the Redskins sought out NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell to make sure interviewing Gray would comply with the league's Rooney Rule, which requires teams to interview minority candidates for head coaching vacancies. According to the report, Goodell checked with the Fritz Pollard Alliance, the group that oversees the rule, which then verified with Gray that he had a legitimate interview for Zorn's job.
Rick Snider [WaExaminer]
Farewell to the Redskins' worst decade since the 1960s. At least the '60s had Sonny Jurgensen, Sam Huff and Charley Taylor. The '00s saw Larry, Moe and Curley running the team.
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Worst Decade Ever?
Really?
Have you ever looked at the history books and checked out the 60s? We never had a winning season and we were 46-82.
That was brutal for sure
Although in 1969 they had a winning season and in 1966 they went .500. There really are a lot of comparisons with that time and now. Both teams were/are in disarray and it was the hiring of George Allen that brought in the Championship caliber teams of the 70s.
I certainly didn’t live through the 60’s but when you add in the Deion Sanders years, the death of Sean Taylor, and the poor facility that is Fedex…I just can’t fathom how anything can be worse than this (Detroit excluded). The Skins did at least have some playoff appearances this decade, but looking back it’s clear those were merely dick teases, which is what each free agent signing (not named London Fletcher) has been.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 28, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
true they has losing records
but they were also exciting as hell to watch with Sonny, Charley, Bobby and Jerry, it was never easy to put the ‘Skins away. There were signs that by the late sixties that the team was on the rise, hanburger and Fischer were on the defense and Lombardi had signed on, at the end of the decade, there was hope….Now, we’re putting our faith in a different Allen, same family different generation and until he makes a few decisions, it’s hard to have any faith just yet.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
IT WAS THE 60'S THAT BEGAN FORGING THIS DEDICATED FAN BASE
Fans learned to stick with the ‘Skins, good or bad, during the 60’s The 70’s brought some hope and a Super Bowl appearence, but throughout those 2 decades, the loyal fan base was formed. We were rewarded in the 80’s and 90’s with Super Bowl wins and a great deal of excitement. Then, a fan bought the team, capitalized on all of those years of good will to maximize his investment and rape the very same fan base – and now, you can see what we have left. The highest prices, a melancholy not seen since the “Malaise” speech of Jimmy Carter, and no promise that anything will get better.
Where is the outrage seen earlier in the season? Quelled by a few wins? The hiring of a supposed GM? I’d rather be back at RFK watching Sonny than living through this…
by savetheskins.com on Dec 29, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Sad times
The best thing would have been to cut Zorn at the break, He is not a head coach, another poor front office decision
My hope is 10 years was not wasted, even though they were wasted, Dan I hope you’ve learned!
Do you think cutting Zorn at the break would have made a difference?
by Parks Smith on Dec 28, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
No, difference
The team would have lost more games and the play would be worse, but it would have been the right thing to do for Zorn. The way he’s been treated is less than fair.
Firing Vinny would have taken on more meaning too!
Who knows, I’m just so ready for the offseason.
by Parks Smith on Dec 28, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Firer Zorn Now,bench Campbell Now,put in T.Collins for last game,and maybe we win
ZORN is worst coach the Redskins ever had,he does not deserve another coaching job after this. Campbell is a bad QB,BENCH HIM for last game,put T.Collins in last game and maybe we will win. We better get at least a 3rd round pick for him. NFL DRAFT can not come fast enough ,we need Francise QB in draft.
by ghost rider on Dec 28, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I really worry about you...
We’re going to be playing San Diego’s backups, who cares!?!?!
Did you not see Todd Collins in the one game he played? He sucked. What the hell does it matter for one last game. JC is obviously going to play b/c he is auditioning for Bruce.
I notice you don't talk about offensive line
hmmm
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Dec 28, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There was still some potential
to pickup two or three experienced offensive linemen even before Samuels went down. Other teams at least made an effort to upgrade. While Meredith was on a practice squad as a 5th round pick he did manage to have some starts with the Bills.
There were at least a half dozen or so linemen that could have upgraded the line. The team probably still has $4 million cap space.
by Jefferson1935 on Dec 28, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Zorn was definitely over matched, all you had to do was listen to his post game press conference today. At one point he said something along the lines of its hard to move the ball when Campbell gets hit on THREE STEP drops.
Collins is a bum, Campbell while not an all-pro quarterback is the least of our concerns at this point with problems on the o-line, secondary, and running back positions (ranked in that order). Campbell has become a scapegoat for all that is wrong with this team and should be held on to until we have developed the line for a new quarterback to come in.
Season just needs to end.
Where do you get this
Collins is a bum thing? He did step in and take us to our last playoff game when JC went down. Also, he has generally looked better than JC when he has been in under identical circumstances. Not much, but….
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Collins was effective in a completely differend offense
He was brought in as a backup QB/mentor/coach to help the team learn Al Saunders’ 700 page playbook. Collins is a limited physical tools guy who knew that offense like the back of his hand. He was therefore able to maximize that offense on a much better team playing with a HOF coach and the fire of uniting after a tragedy. Collins does NOT either know or fit the west coast offense nearly as well, and that has been amply shown in both preseason and in his limited regular season action.
PLUS, Collins is immobile. At least Campbell can sometimes break contain and run for a first down when the protection fails.
Different offense, that is ...
And I don’t think Collins is a bum, but I also don’t think that he is the answer.
Precisely...
He has every bit of disadvantage JC has plus less mobility. He is not a bum. He has actually looked better than JC at times – so maybe not at bum.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Consistency
Yea he did look good at time, then there are other times we wish like hell he was more mobile (The Safety). JC looks amazing at times (the fade down the sideline to MK, deep ball to DT), other times he doesn’t.
Neither one of them have been consistent in what they do, Todd just has the element of surprise because defenses aren’t prepared for the deep ball because they’re ready for the dink and dunk sh*t we usually pull. But after that, it turns into the same old story; calling 911 and telling them to prepare the ER because our QBs aren’t being protected.
No QB is going to have consistency behind the POS O-Line.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
Name me one playoff-bound team in the NFC who has a QB that is worse than Campbell, then tell me whether or not Campbell is a problem (better yet, tell me one team in our division who has a QB worse than Campbell). It’s a quarterback’s league, and if you don’t have one who is in the top 50% (and we don’t), you’re headed nowhere.
BTW, the last time we were in the playoffs, we got there BECAUSE Todd Collins led us on a 4-0 run to end the season.
and that was 4 years ago
You could argue that going to Collins worked in ‘05 when the team went to the playoffs with an offesive system he had been in for a few years (don’t forget Saunders and the 1000 pages) but in ‘09 and definitely ’10 he is not and should not be the answer. I also disagree that he’s looked better. In the games he has replaced Campbell sure, but he could not perform at JCs level week in and out getting hit that much.
Any talk of playoffs is ridiculous. If you want playoffs then build a team that is legitimately in the mix for a bunch of years not just one. The lesson to be learned from this terrible year/decade is that we are not just one player away. Campbell may not be Favre, Brees, Warner (all MVP winners if I remember right) and even McNabb and as much as I hate to say it Romo, but he is not what kept us from the playoffs. Keep Campbell under center until we are just a QB away and then sub in the guy who was a high draft pick and had time to learn before taking his licks.
my bad
‘07 is when Collins took us there and don’t forget the streak coinsided with the death of Sean Taylor which also helped to fuel the fire. And if iremember right, Portis was the reason we got there as he rushed for over 100 yards in each of those games. When portis got stuffed in seattle it was collins’ ints that lost ujs the game.
At one time near the middle of the season
the team was pulling for Zorn. Then it just tanked. I was rooting for continuity at HC plus the Sherms to make a step forward and it just didn’t happen. So, open a very big window all the way and toss.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
What an awful way to end an awful decade
I am going to be upset if I hear that we are in a position to make a playoff run next season. I want Bruce to be honest with us, tell us we are rebuilding, and lay out the plan for how we will do it.
I’m trying to think back to how we thought we would compete in the NFC East this season… All of those team’s are far and away better than the Redskins in every phase of the game. I’m so disappointed in the defense, we knew the offense would struggle but team’s just had their way with us all year.
I’m ready to be patient, and I hope the rest of you are too, cause there are so many holes on this team that we would be lucky to break .500 in the next couple years.
Haha so true! At least we got rid of Bowden and Vinny all in the same year!
by Parks Smith on Dec 28, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Oh man
What an awful experience this season has been. For a few minutes yesterday in the parking lot, the vibe was actually not bad, maybe people were excited to just get it over with. Watching that game was miserable. Wipe the slate clean.
Last nights game
Even though it was so nice seeing the redskins humiliated at home I almost was a little upset that they are that bad. Being a long time fan of the COWBOYS, one thing you could always count on was a close game until the end. Even though my health suffered from all the close games, to me that is what football is about, knowing your rival, the team that makes the most mistakes ussually lost. I truly hope they get it turned around so when we beat you the next time we play it is because we beat you on even ground.
I was given tickets to last nights game by a die hard redskins fan ( season ticket holder ). His excuse was he was to " busy " to go to the game. That is how bad it has gotten, giving tickets to a Cowboys fan. Good luck on your rebuild.
Don’t worry you’ll be sitting where we are in probably about 2 years.
- Your coach is a dumbass and is just a pawn for Jerry.
- Your O-Line is old as shit with limited depth and you’ve only drafted 1 OL in the past two years and he’s on the PUP list.
- You MLB position is a rotating door of old veterans. Bobby Carpenter was a BUST.
- Miles Austin is probably heading to Miami.
- Basically your whole secondary are UFAs
Spurrier was shut out against Dallas 27-0 at Fed Ex Field....
….still the emptiest i’ve felt as a fan….
At least he was entertaining
You know, with all the super slo-mo pix of him doing that creepy lip blow thing. I used to make fun of those stupid looks that Wade Phillips constantly has, but Zorn’s befuddled face over the past few months rivals Bum’s son…
I'd have to review each game,
but I can’t believe the 60’s teams would have tanked like this one does. Also, I bet the 60’s teams were not hyped up every year as potential NFL Champs like we annually seem to fall for.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
The owner. A significant portion of the fan base
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I’d agree with the fan base. But the owner? We has he ever prognosticated victory?
But no one else hypes us up, especially the media. They always say we are going to suck and all of us make fun of them b/c we think their idiots for thinking that.
jokes on us though, right?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
And another thing
I used to be able to make fun of my brother in law’s team, the Lions, but thanks to this year’s offering I have even lost that little nugget of satisfaction…
oh yea
I got that thrown in my face at Fedex last night at least twice by Cowboys fans.
I’m pretty vocal when it comes to opposing fans. This Cowboys fan was yelling at me and I told him to call me when the Cowboys win a playoff game (it was all good and fun)….at that point 4 Redskins fans sitting behind me started screaming at me to shut the F up. I was so livid. They were like “They’re better than us…you don’t know what you’re talking about.” Oh man…I laid into those fans too, but that was it for me and Fedex. Getting taunted by fellow Redskins fans is an all-time low.
I mean…duh, of course the Cowboys are a better team. The Maryland Terrapins are arguably better than the Redskins…but I’m going to fight back.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 28, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Are you going to the SD game?
i bought in and got tickets. Wow. Just imaging how fulfilling it will be for Norval to blow us out. Crap.
At least we are ringing in a new decade.
I bagged it, unfortunately
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 28, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
I got that too
what is with the friendly fire from fellow fans this season?
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 28, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Reality Check
A. The Redskins have a losing record against the Cowboys for the entire rivalry..
B. The Redskins have a losing record against the Cowboys in each decade going back to the 60s.
C. The Cowboys have shut out the Redskins 3 times: 11-21-71 (13-0), 12-14-03 (27-0) and 12-27-09 (17-0).
D. Since Snyder took over in 1999, Cowboys have won 16 times to the Redskin 6.
Snyder, and the Redskins, bad karma began the day he fired the clerical personnel.
Book keepers, secretaries and mail clerk were his first victims. Next came several
classless tantrums in the visiting owners boxes by the petulant Snyder.
You reap what you sow. A classless clown he was, a classless clown he is, and a classless clown he will always be. They will never win a Superbowl till Snyder is gone.
You don’t mess with Father time, you don’t fool Mother Nature, and you never cheat the karmic laws .
by SnyderThe Spider on Dec 28, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions
Jerry
Yea, Jerry fired Tom Landry as soon as he bought the team. Real classy.
Although Jerry Jones is the GM, at least he played football (won a championship with Arkansas)…so that puts him way ahead over Snyder in regards to evaluating talent.
Man, it really stinks rooting for a team with such a terrible owner. Go Caps.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 28, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Well said. I grew up in Va a Redskin fan, but I have lived in the Detroit area for the last 16 years. As such I have followed the Lions with some interest, and I note that the Lions have sucked for 40 years (I’m certainly note the only one to notice). In that 40 years, there has only been one person who has been with the organization the entire time: the owner, William Clay Ford. Different coaches, different players, different GM’s…BUT THE SAME RESULTS! Nothing gets better when the ownership is bad.
Our Redskins are unfortunately on the verge of duplicating the Lions “40 years of sucking” feat unless Dan Snyder sells the team.
Worst Decade, Wortst Owner, Worst Coaches, Worst Player Attitudes
Have followed Skins for decades. Yes I am old enough to remember Huff, Jurgensen et al. This decade and especially since the Campbell-multi coach-multi running back-multi play book era has been the worst ever. They showed ZERO consistency at offense, Deefense that kept them in the game finally went ziggy-giggy. High paid players like Albert who like to gripe in public, failed to bring their big game to the Cowboys (or most other games this season.). Face it. The Skins org has slid precariously down hill since Danny boy took ownership. Winning starts at the top..in nthe front office. Thank heaven Vinny is gone. That’s a start.
House Cleaning Needed For Redskins
That loss was humiliating last night. Getting shutout at home to the Dallas Cowboys of all teams is B.S. They came in and pushed us around like a bunch of GIRLS in our house! The coaching staff should not be the only ones to be shown the door! A bunch of QUITTERS need to be with them! Not all players have quit, but there is a chunk of the roster that has and the film don’t lie!!!!
Sean Taylors Death
Set this franchise back a minimum of 2 years. Think about it:
Gibbs would have finished his contract
Laron Would have had a true mentor
The games we could have won
Redskins fans are screwed.
that's some wild speculation and projection
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
No Hope......
I can honestly say that I’m looking forward to the off season, I have nothing to look forward to for next year… There is nothing with this group to build on. This need to be completely dismantled…The next 4 years are lost. at best 8-8 at worst 4-12. The only owner thats worst than Dan Synder is Al Davis. Jerry Jones, I hate him and his cockyness, but he wins and has our number. I have to respect that. I wish we had Jerry Jones as our owner. Everyone dreams of coaching and play in Dallas, They laugh at us, Bill parcells, Jimmy Johnson, Barry Switzer and Wade Phillips. Thats the head coaches
they have had since the mid sixties. We’ve had more than that since 2000. Where the stability?? where’s the tradition? I think he’s happy with the situation? He’s making tons of money off of us? How many people bought Sean Taylor jerseys ? I’m sick and tired of being a fan of a losing team a losing owner a losing we are losers, the cowboy fans are relentless…… They don’t ease up on us, but you know I can defend the team anymore, I’m tired of being used and robbed. out
we'll be lucky if we rebuild
but that’s never been Snyder’s M.O.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
THE REASON I KEEP BEATING THE WAR DRUM AGAINST SNYDER
Because we will never be anything but a mediocre team under his ownership. Cooke made money and wrote big checks. But he loved the team and he respected what the fans did for him. Snyder may know how to make more money off the team and control the media, but he has no regard for the fans and the people who went before him to give him this cash cow.
Don’t buy a bumper sticker. I don’t care. (I only had them printed because I can’t afford to buy a billboard like they did in Oakland).
Make your own. Write/email/call the media. Get mad people, you’ve all quieted down since week 8 and Snyder knows you will keep coming back and spending money until there’s no one left alive who remembers what it was like to win, or at least have fun being a fan.
by savetheskins.com on Dec 29, 2009 6:04 PM EST reply actions
Shut Outs at the Hands of the Cowboys
Sorry to pee on the parade even more, but there is a sad fact to add to the discussion. Zorn is not the only skipper to be shut out by the Cowboys in the history of the Rivalry. In 2003, the ’Skins were shut out 27-0.
Sad to say, but it isn’t a rivalry currently. It hasn’t been during the entire Reign of the Poison Dwarf. You have to go back to about 1992-93 to get to the last time these teams were truly rivals. In the years since, neither team has been dominant. It’s been rare that both teams have even been competitive at the same time. I think we have to go back a step or two further to get to a period in time when they were really rivals in the sense that they were fighting it out amongst themselves to determine who was the dominant team in the NFC. The Niners-Cowboys Rivalry was more compelling more recently, although it’s hard to top the classics of the George Allen vs. Tom Landry Era.
1971
Redskins were also shut out 13-0 on 11-21-71 at RFK. Odd fact: all 3 Cowboys shut outs took place at the ’Skins home field.
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