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More Details on Haynesworth/Blache Feud; Blache Isn't Being Honest

I wish I had stayed in Tennessee.

I wish I had stayed in Tennessee.

I'm sure you've heard about Albert Haynesworth getting sent home from practice Christmas Day for arriving late to practice. More details are emerging about Albert's frustration, and it's solely on how he has been used. I totally side with Albert on everything. This is the same, exact problem from Jason Taylor last year, and I found an interview (after the jump) from when the Redskins first signed Albert. Blache said he'd use Albert for his strengths, which is obviously not true. From the 106.7 THE FAN twitter feed:

Haynesworth is not the only player however beyond frustrated. I also heard 2 players who are not happy with how they are being used Redskins

He doesn't want to be like Kearse was in Philly - and feels he has been treated like a child, not a man

I asked two people inside Redskins Park about Haynesworth and they both said they really liked him and he was just frustrated

Apparently - the defensive "Hot" calls Haynesworth has most issue with - was a staple with the Titans. 15-20 per game in TN. 3-5 here in WSH

Acc. 2 NFL Sources:

Albert Haynesworth was chastised loudly after his sack on MNF because HE and the D-Line called a "HOT"

Greg Blache has had multiple, loud shouting matches with several players over last few weeks.

The reason why Haynesworth chose Redskins over Bucs because TB would not give promise to use him right   

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Albert Haynesworth feels that misled & perhaps lied to - he recieved assurances that Redskins would be aggressive    

Haynesworth loves Redskins teammates and has much love for other members of the staff. His main issues is "trust" with Blache    

Wow. I mean...Blache stepped right into Vinny's mess. I found an interview with Greg Blache when the Redskins signed Albert, and he talked about how he would use him:

Greg Blache: "We always try and build our defenses around our players...So our schemes will fit him, but also the rest of our guys. It will fit all of our players...I think [the transition] will be relatively seamless. I don't see any huge transition because of the quality of the player that he is. What we do, as he alluded to when he spoke [in his introductory press conference], the schemes we run are very, very similar [to the Tennessee Titans, Haynesworth's former team] and a lot of the things that he did. The difference is the terminology."            

Lies...lies...lies. Jason Taylor took the high road, but Albert is not that guy and I like it. He got paid $40 million up-front to attack the QB and that is not what he is allowed to do. It's true...fans will look at his stats and games missed and label him a bust, but I can assure you this Albert: All the Redskins fans know the real problem...the organization. It's been this way for 10 years so consider yourself lucky you've only had to endure it one.

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We are paying him the highest ever salary for a defensive player.

Use him right, which is at his best. Blache may be the coach, but it seems he is constantly wrong. The skins D ranks in the top 10 overall, but with all the talant on this D, we should be top 2. New coaches all around…except for Grey and Bugel.

Orakpo!!! Russel Okung next year!

by Horcasitas4 on Dec 26, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

He never plays.

Maybe if he played a little more often I’d be more likely to care how he was being used. He’s a great player when he’s healthy but he never is.

by chap78 on Dec 26, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

im iffy on keeping gray, because our secondary just sucks at coverage and tackling. but maybe its just execution.

by Shaffi3 on Dec 26, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Blache and Gray

They both should go – Gray misused great players, too. I totally support Albert on this. And did you see Jim Zorn smiling through all this? Clueless. Jim should have been fired long ago, but there is one advantage to doing it after the season: Snyder can fire him and his top assistants (Blache, Gray, Smith) all at once.

by Donnio1234 on Dec 26, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Square peg

This coaching staff has no clue whatsoever. Instead of getting players to fit our scheme, we get players and try to jam, wedge, or squeeze them in. Taylor and Haynesworth aren’t the only ones. Hall was brought here as a “cover corner”, yet they keep him 10 yards off the ball. Then there’s Landry….UGH!! What a bust. He MAY be decent at STRONG SAFETY, but he is an easy mark for the bust label if he remains at free safety. And Lastly, we have our most dynamic player on defense. Orakpo would be a Pro Bowler at DE, if he was there full time. Instead, we have him out of position and looking stupid while chasing these tight ends around the field. Meanwhile, the position he SHOULD be starting at, is currently occupied by an over the hill role player. Daniels wouldn’t start for any halfway decent team in the league when healthy, let alone with a torn bicep.

Bottom line – I can’t WAIT until Blache is grumbling to himself in his rocking chair everyday.

by CJHutch on Dec 26, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

yep

that’s the way it’s been, I hope next year is different.

by aFan4Life on Dec 28, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

More to the story...

Looks like Albert was trying to recruit other players to show up late to practice too. That is as unprofessional as it gets. Poison for the locker room.

"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."

by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 26, 2009 7:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Link

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Haynesworth-urged-teammates-to-show-late-Friday.html

"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."

by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 26, 2009 7:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Haynesworth is publicly denying this report

Redskins Insider announced Haynesworth will start Sunday. Never any drama shortage in Ashburn.

"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."

by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 26, 2009 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Story spawned from profootballtalk.com

Which means it’s bs. Also the insider got a text from haynesworth saying if he was boycotting then why the hell would he be there.

I hope he takes this anger into the Dallas game.

I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble

by CptChaosSidekick on Dec 26, 2009 8:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Poison?

This organization is poison. It starts at the top with mismanagement and lies. When you have to work in that environment every day, eventually it brings you down to their level. Fire everyone associated with this management and start again. Allen is only the first step towards success.

by John S51 on Dec 26, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

the way i see it

it was christmas and that day should not have been spent on the practice field , i would like to say , TOP TEN DEFENSE MY ASS , GET FUCKING REAL

'' If we score , we might win . If they dont score , We will win '' Willis White

by skinaholic on Dec 26, 2009 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with Albert

He’s been used the wrong way from the start and now it’s finally starting to show through. Hopefully we just fire everyone and bring in people who can design defensive schemes that use Haynesworth for what he’s for ATTACKING THE QB.

by TJJJJJJ on Dec 26, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

This is the problem...

with signing budget busting Free Agents. Once they have a giant pile of cash, they start to believe that they alone should be calling all the shots.

Albert is set for life, and he’s a paid employee. Blache sucks, but AH needs to shut up and do what the coaches tell him.

We suck bad enough without every player thinking that they are better than the team, and the coaches, and demanding their own schemes to inflate their stats.

Why doesn’t Cooley storm out of practice unless he gets thrown to 20 times a game? Why doesn’t Campbell refuse to play unless he gets to throw 60 times a game?

How is that any different than AH bitching that he doesn’t get to run around and do whatever he wants on D on every play?

by Mex_17 on Dec 26, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

All the more reason to believe him

He’s set for life so why does he care what else happens. I think this speaks to the type of player he is. He’s not just sitting back and resting on thick pile of cash. He wants to play and he wants to do what he does best.

by Basketnarb on Dec 27, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The bottom line

Jason Taylor and Albert Haynesworth are two of the best players to play on the D line in the last decade. Why sign guys like this with HUGE Salaries if their not going to be used to their strengths? I understand Big Al can’t run around like Arrington did, but he’s on the D line….what else is his purpose other than stopping the run and rushing the passer, it’s a no brainer.

For all you braniacs who are going to complain about the screen passes that get around him let me say this, the DT’s are the last responsible of the entire defense for getting to them. AH is a special player at his position, he’s almost always solely responsible for leaving the rest of the D with a 10 on 9 advantage and he should be used in that way heavily. I’m sure their are defensive coordinators who are salivating over that type of advantage and I’m positive their are DC’s who are doing more with less.

I think it actually speaks to some of the holes on this team that Vinny left and to the stench of incompetence that is just floating around this team like a black cloud.

This seals Blaches fate, he’s to is out of here at the end of the season.

by skinsymets on Dec 26, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Poison?

What lies did the front office (Dan and Vinny) ever tell? This whole disastrous season is due to lousy coaching – Zorn (and Smith) on the offense, Blache (and Gray) on the defense. And on offense it’s not just play calling, it’s the basic system, the plays, the general scheme, generally terrible management, and egregious mistakes. On defense, Blache just knows his one basic scheme, which other teams have figured out, and has wasted and misused fine players. Gregg Williams was a defensive genius, Blache is old and tired and stuck in his ways. Those people who try to blame Snyder and Cerrato for this season are dangerously mistaken, and if you mis-analyse the problem, you’ll never get the right solution. Snyder made one huge mistake, and must correct it ASAP by firing the top 4 coaches. With that, get a few top players, especially offensive linemen and a linebacker, and a good coach, and we’ll win a lot of games.

by Donnio1234 on Dec 26, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I agree with your Blache comments

But disagree that Snyderrato don’t deserve a hefty share of blame.

The offensive roster is painfully medicre, and the offensive line is awful. Vince Lombardi couldn’t coach up Stephen Heyer and Mike Williams.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Dec 26, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

SO SICK

of people not recognizing that the number one reason for this terrible season is the unbelieveable neglect our offensive line has suffered over the past 10 years by management.

No Jim Zorn is not a legit head coach and his staff appears to be subpar, but they were given a gun with no ammo.

Please recognize that.

by Romans12 on Dec 27, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

no arguement

but if you sign a guy to that kind of contract, for that length of time and then don’t use him as you promised you would… Not saying that Albert is perfect in this, but as a player, you only have a limited amount of time to make an impact and estabblish a legacy and based on Haynesworth’s statements, he wants to be known as a difference maker. That isn’t going to happen if instead of going after the QB they are busy playing contain 95% of the time and it’s not as if this season has much meaning left, so why not let the players that can take out their frustrations do so and let them play for each other?

I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....

by piratedan7 on Dec 27, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Right on.

I agree that most of Albert’s frustration comes from a genuine desire to be one of the greats at his position.

If he plays ten years like he did in Tennessee, you’d have to put him up there with the history’s best interior linemen. If he plays out his contract here in this system (which he won’t because Greg Blatche is gone too) then he will just be known as just another guy.

by Romans12 on Dec 27, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

How can you not blame Snyder and Cerrato for this season? Even if you say that the roster was good and it’s all on the coaches (it’s not, by the way) how do you defend the way that they went about picking a new head coach?

Standard procedure for an NFL team is hire a new HC (with HC or coordinator experience), and then let him have some if not all say in hiring his coordinators.

What did Snyderrato do? Hired an offensive coordinator with no playcalling experience before they had a head coach. Then, when no coach they wanted would come here without getting any say in who their coordinators would be, they promoted the guy from OC to HC. Before he’d even actually started being OC. And oh, the guy who has no HC or play calling experience is supposed to come in and install a west coast offense for our football team, which doesn’t have personnel suited for a WCO. And then, as it isn’t hard enough being underqualified and trying to completely overhaul our system, you publicly emasculate him and take away his authority.

I agree that our coaching staff is part of the problem. But our coaching staff is completely the fault of Snyder and Cerrato. It’s not like we went about the hiring process the right way and got someone who was experienced, qualified, and could develop our existing strengths well. We did the exact opposite of that. And that’s all on the front office.

by rtharak2 on Dec 27, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Blache is mediocre, stubborn and past his prime

Albert’s overstepping the line here and there but mostly this season is more than any player should ever have to deal with.

Awful coaching. Awful roster. Beyond dysfunctional front office. And potential lies when he signed his contract.

As was said above, Blache only knows the most basic schemes, and he’s simply not good enough to come up with plans to maximize his talent.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Dec 26, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

Skins D

If Al hates how he’s being treated and NOT used so much, why doesn’t HE speak out in a tell-all expose…like “Inside the Skins Locker Room”…or does he remain relatively quite because he likes the million$$$ better?

by GreyGoose on Dec 27, 2009 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

Relatively quiet?

I think by NFL standards this is pretty outspoken.

by Boo. on Dec 27, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

What a joke.....

These comments siding with Haynesworth are ridiculous. Give me a break. When a player of that supposed caliber signs with any team for that obscene amount of money, they should shut their trap and play their butts off and become a 110% team player for the duration of that contract. Haynesworth is typical of the problem with a lot of top pro athletes these days. He simply another overpayed, spoiled, elite athlete, who played hard during his contract year and is now reaping the reward. Watching him this season, his conditioning looks weak, his effort is suspect and sometimes he looks like he doesn’t even want to be on the field. Now he’s crying about how he is being used. Ha!!! For example, have you EVER heard one peep out of Cornelius Griffin during his time in DC? No, because he is a truly solid team player. The problem is that AH is a spoiled baby who needs an attitude adjustment.

by MPH on Dec 27, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

THE REDSKINS GAVE HIM THE CONTRACT!

He didn’t create it for himself out of thin air. Playing AH in a containment type defense would have many people calling him a bust, when he clearly is not. This creates a frenzied like atmosphere for the average Redskins fan which is fine, but don’t blame him for being overpayed. I actually agree with you on him being overpayed but completely disagree on how he’s being used. To pay him that type of money and use him like this is a complete break down of management, not him.

by skinsymets on Dec 27, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

You really have to look at the entirety of the situation man. This guy absolutely has the talent to be one of the great interior linemen, easily the best of this generation. He knows that, which is why his decision to come here was an important one for him…this is where he intends to cement his legacy as an all-time great.

Management and coaching PROMISED him that he would be able to play in the manner that has seen him absolutely dominate in the trenches. I’d be upset too if I saw my legacy being tarnished because I was lied to.

It is still amazing to me that people harp so much on his conditioning. He is the single most disruptive force in football, teams gameplan against him. He has to work harder than most to get his.

I get it though, he’s an easy target for uneducated fans.

by Romans12 on Dec 27, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Talent is one thing....

Uneducated fan? Whatever…. I’m not talking about his talent and I’m not saying Blache uses him correctly.

Haynesworth is a beast and is one the top three DT’s in the league when he wants to be (contract years), but when are compared to a current great NFL DT like Kevin Williams his stats aren’t as good and his endurance over the years pales in comparison.

C’mon now, Butz only missed 4 games in his entire 16 year career, Reggie White missed one non strike game in 15 years, both were double teamed every down they ever played. AH can’t even make it 14 games out of 16….. He has 2 pro bowls under his belt and is a dominant tackle, but he is going to have to step it up a bit to be known as one of the all time greats.

by MPH on Dec 28, 2009 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

what the hell does that mean

“when a player of that ‘supposed’ caliber signs with any team for that obscene amount of money, they should shut their trap and play their butts off and become a ‘110%’ team player for the duration of that contract. Blah blah blah, I hate players because they earn a lot and still express an opinon within the context of their sport’”

Stupid.

Blache’s system has been widely criticized as underutilizing the incredible personnel and reasonably good depth on that side of the ball, and it’s no surprise that the anchor of our defense feels that way too. There is nothing more asinine and cliched as “110%”, “athletes/celebrities speaking out in any context = spoiled lindsey lohans,” give me a break dude and present a real argument, you sound like an absolute tool. The defense isn’t a bunch of rich unconditioned babies, Blache plainly can’t inspire them and that is a huge problem in a sport that requires inspiring play-calling & scheming and relationships of trust between team captains/leaders and coordinators. Literally the only time Blache has spoken out about anything this season, has been to defend Dan Snyder when Riggins called him out earlier this year. Take your cliched & tired populism elsewhere like a Cowboys msg. board

by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Dec 27, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Give me a break, you have some major emotional issues boy. Let’s see, stupid, asinine, cliched and a tool. Wow, I seem to have touched a sensitive spot in you, perhaps you and Albert should go have good cry together. People like you who hide behind their keyboards and call names on the internet are some of the biggest punks on the planet.

While AH’s talent is undeniable, your Lindsey Lohan reference is right…. The article above sights a slew of “They said he feels like” crap….. Yadda, yadda, it reads like the freakin Inquirer. Any player who would air selfish BS like this during the season in any public forum is a prima dona and very unprofessional.

The problem is that when any player is payed that kind of money, there is a very real possibility of that player (depending on his character) thinking himself more important than the team itself. That sort of mindset from a star can ruin any team’s chemistry. (e.g. T.O.). Gibbs, nor any other coach worth his salt would put up with that BS. This fact is a simple truth and if you can’t see that, you sir, are certainly a tool.

So tell me, what happens if Albert doesn’t like the next coordinator of the Redskins? Fire him as well? Or perhaps Snyder should tell him to use Albert the way Albert wants to be used? WTF?
I would much rather see the defense built around players with the character, toughness and character similar to that of London Fletcher. Players who play hard every down and hate being pulled out, etc.

I’m no fan of Blache and even though his schemes are somewhat vanilla and not aggressive enough, this defense does play hard for him. He is certainly no Marv Lewis or Gregg Williams, but his schemes are for the most part sound, so he will probably end up a coordinator for someone in this league.

So he and Zorn and Cerrato are gone, Thank God…. I have one word for Haynesworth to learn from Shanahan no matter how he is used….. TEAM.

by MPH on Dec 28, 2009 6:58 AM EST up reply actions  

What games are you watching ?? Greg Blaches schemes are sound ?? LOL

We rush four when we should be blitzing. How deep does our safeties play when it is a short down and distance? We play prevent defense when we should be blitzing. Look at how our defense was abused on several key plays yesterday. We were in the wrong scheme for the particular down and distance or position on the field. Marion Barber walked into the endzone. How can you be on the goal line and have your safeties playing in the back of the endzone? How can you be in a 3rd and 9 situation and have your safeties playing 25 yards down the field?

  Can anyone tell me why we don’t run stunts with our lineman and linebackers ? Why do we just rush head up against all teams. Albert Haynesworth can collapse two holes easily. Why do we not cross the defensive lineman from the side that Albert collapses back behind Albert. For you guys that say you know so much about football this is a basic stunt. If you have a player that can collapse two holes you move the defensive lineman from that side crossing him behind albert to take away the cutback run. IE when Tony Romo stepped up into the cutback lane he would be getting smacked in the face by the lineman crossing behind Albert !!

How can you guys compare a man getting beat on by 300 plus pound men to a druggie actress ?? LOL Haynesworth has shown true leadership by finally speaking out. Some times the whole world needs to know in order to fix a problem.

You talk about team player ?? LOL when D Hall was getting slung around like a wet rag who came to the rescue? Where was the rest of the team? This has happened more than once. This tells me alot about our coaches because right or wrong I have never played on a team that it was not expected to defend your team mates. What does it say about a team or coaches when they stand around and watch a player get sling around ? It says we have some pansie coaches.

Sometimes reading these post makes me wonder how many of you have ever even stepped on to a football field. It is amazing how much of this is just football 101. It is not that difficult but if you have never played football past a certain level I guess you will never get it.

by LETJASONPASS on Dec 28, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, LJP

Even Chris Collinsworth repeatedly questioned why on 2nd and 3rd downs and about 6 to go BOTH our safeties were playing 30 yards (THIRTY YARDS) off the LOS!!!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 28, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps if you had actually read what I wrote, you may have understood where I was coming from. I don’t agree with Blache’s schemes at all. I’m simply stating that even though we are ranked 28th in takeaways this year, statistically our defense is in the middle of the pack, another team will probably pick him up after we unload him….. and good riddance, they can have him.

Just take Mike Nolan. When he was our defensive coordinator under Turner and with his weak ass, non aggressive, read and react 4-3, we ranked 28th and then 24th in points allowed 2 years running. The Skins fired him and Nolan was immediately picked up by the Jets as defensive coordinator…. Snyder is not the only foolish owner in the league.

by MPH on Dec 29, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with Big Al on this all the way.

First and foremost, we have numerous examples of the same abuse – putting players in schemes to suit the scheme, not the athletic strengths of the players. When you are not playing to your natural abilities, you are playing handicapped. Not being smart enough or too stubborn to do otherwise and you are an ass.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 28, 2009 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

Change of Ownership

Sadly, It is becoming increasing apparent that the Great organization that the Redskins Fans and Players have come to expect has diminished greatly over the years with Synder as it’s Owner. I firmly believe that owners should remain the overall figure head and symbol of there team and let the hired professionals run the operation, and only have input when those professional are not doing there job to the best of there ability. Overall, the Skins’ will get all this turned around and they will be a winning team again, just let the players play and the coaches coach. I still believe that Jim Zorn has great potential, but to strip him of his duties and display him without his duties on national television is clearly an inept decision by an Owner with no pride.

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