It’s totally different than what I thought here. If they’d let us loose, it’d be a whole lot better. [At Tennessee] I just rushed and they let me go and we won a bunch of games and we was up there in the top two or three on defense and sacks. [Titans defensive coordinator Jim] Schwartz got a head coaching job from it. Maybe we need to try that here." - Albert Haynesworth
WaTimes
This is like Jason Taylor Part 2. Not using players to their strengths. I was blasting Albert during the game for dancing and not pushing forward. It appears he is being told not to push.
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With no leader and no hope
The flood gates might open. This team lacks balls and has no soul.
I'm worried about the beer supply. After this case, and the other case, there's only one case left- Barney Gumble
by CptChaosSidekick on Dec 22, 2009 10:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
And the DBs are being told
to run around like idiots and whatever you do, don’t tackle. It’s obvious that someone in the D coaching staff is scared shitless to let these guys just go out and wreak havoc.
In not doing so, the O wreaks havoc on us. WTF?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
This comment made me laugh.
And then it made me cry.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 22, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
A double edge sword
Why is Haynesworth a Redskin? Same reason Vinny went and got Taylor:
Coaches coach for a reason…
Because Danny and Vinny wanted him:
I think Haynesworth is a great football player and I am glad he is a Redskin but this again highlights the issue with Danny in charge, not looking at the big picture and making stupid decisions without a plan, just collecting players.
My hope is Bruce Allen sits down and puts together a 3 to 5 year big picture plan. Then takes the actions to achieve that plan.
No Santa Clause wishes, No this guy or that guy concerns. Bruce Allen, build a solid football team based on a system, a firm foundation and scheme which will dominate the NFC east and then win a Superbowl or two.
Blache
Blache said he was going to use Albert to his strengths. It’s clear he’s not. I saw Albert on one play hold the line versus get after the QB.
I’m glad we have players like Albert who don’t keep quiet. He cares and wants to win and is not afraid to expose what is wrong.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 22, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
+1
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 22, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
By faces alone
Haynesworth, Fletcher, and Campbell were the only ones who looked truly angry about what was going on last night.
As supportive as I was of the DHall signing, I like him less and less every week.
Blache knew who signed his checks
If Snyderrato said, “we’re signing Albert, can you utilize him?” Blache isn’t going to say no.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
And this is the problem with the Daniel Snyder Redskins
If a GM, VP, Head Coach or Coordinator cannot say to the owner,
“Haynesworth or whomever is a great player but he really does not fit into our scheme and what we are trying to do with our defense, it would be better to bring in….X player or to draft X type player”
Instead of the owner/VP going out and getting all these “great players” to attempt to build a team…
I agree
I like Haynesworth. And I guess I’m one of the few people who don’t get pissed when he comes out for a play or two.— I heard an interview where he told the guy "*YOU* try pushing around 700 pounds (he was referring to being double – teamed) and see if YOU don’t get tired. - But it is indicative of this teams way of doing things that he doesn’t “fit.” -Other GOOD teams have a certain “type” of player that they look for, and that’s what they stick with. Like the Colts with their “speed over size” mantra on defense, or the Broncos with their athletic O lines. The good franchises have a “plan”, which is exactly what we’ve NEVER had under Snyder. Hopefully Allen changes that.
good point though
it’s just a little hard to read.
We do need to focus on a team “identity” (as I’ve heard some analysts call it) which means having a offensive philosophy and a defensive philosophy. Maybe Zorn was trying to do that, I don’t know. All I know is both sides of the ball looked totally inept (the MNF announcers even said they’d never seen such dominance – how sad is that) and ultimately that is on the HC.
Wouldn't be suprised to see EVERY single coach let go after last nights performance.
In a way I’m glad it happened, it really is the culmination of what Vinny put together during his tenure.
+1
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 22, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, everything I thought that could be salvaged
for next year to be built upon turned out to be a total house of cards. What bullshit in Titanic proportions.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I admire your honesty
Zorn is not an answer, he needs to go.
Adios, Jimbo
I feel bad you were put in a tenuous situation at best. Maybe had they brought in Sherm L. last year things would be different….naaaaahhh!!
Good luck in your retirement. Mind contributing a mil or two to mine?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I'd settle for $10K
It will be interesting if Zorn even gets hired somewhere as a QB coach now.
He will
He has enough credibility built up over the years so that this wont end his football career. Football execs are smart enough to know the situation Jim Zorn was put into.
My money is on him ending up in Cleveland with Holmgren to groom whichever QB gets his name drawn from the hat next season.
Yeah.
He’ll be Brady Quinn’s tutor next year, I’ll bet.
Don’t believe he’ll get rehired? Look at how Matt Hasselbeck’s fallen apart since Zorn left.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
good point
I hope Zorn does get a job as he seems like a good guy (just not an effective head coach).
I jsut wish Vinny had been fired this week coming not last week
In a way I’m glad it happened, it really is the culmination of what Vinny put together during his tenure.
so everyone could see that it was unequivocally his fault.
But still he is gone and that is the main thing
Pommylee
anyone who knows anything knows this is still on Vinny
He built this OLine.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 23, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
An overstatement
He built this O-line
along the lines of saying “Mt St. Helens does landscaping.” I mean both provided complete disasters, for true?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
very true
haha
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 23, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
By the way,
Haynesworth might now be my favorite non-Orakpo member of the defensive line. It was impressive the way he stood up for DeAngelo Hall after that asshole Jacobs threw a punch.
Waaay to stand up for your teammate, Albert. And don’t worry, everyone knows that the officials were wrong to not even flag Jacobs.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
absolutely
“Waaay to stand up for your teammate, Albert.” Especially when the game was over by the end of the 1st quarter. Like a penalty is really going to cost you the game. I would have been happier to see a massive brawl then the lackluster effort given by most of the players.
Well....
the penalty will probably cost Albert a few G’s.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Giants fan here
Jacobs deserved at minimum an unsportsmanlike, and at worst an ejection. No place for such stupidity, he has a decent fine coming for that one.
you giants fans are different from the other NFC East guys
SpotieOtieDopalicious
+1
One good thing about the loss last night (and I was there – blech) was that it weakens the Cowboys and Eagles. If we can steal one from the Cowboys that would be sweet.
Another Giants fan
And please do that.
It would make a great late christmas present to so many people
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
I agree
All the Giants fans were pretty cool last night. I was tailgating and a few were brought by one of our buddies…no one talked to them for the first hour or so, but the guys just came over, introduced themselves, and we all got along. Even in the stadium we all had a good time goofing off and wondering how the Skins could be fumbling and bumbling so bad. Giants fans are like guys I hang out with and Cowboys fans are like the women I date – one can use logic and reality to explain a credible point while the other uses emotion and jedi mind tricks to confuse and disorient me…
you just described all women
while the other uses emotion and jedi mind tricks to confuse and disorient me…
SpotieOtieDopalicious
Got a video of it?
I missed just about the entire game after the first quarter, stopped caring and stopped watching.
What happened though?
I saw it live,
then I saw it after the game on SportsCenter, too, and on SC, they were very adamant that Haynesworth got penalized for nothing, and they pointed out repeatedly that Jacobs threw a punch and got off scott free.
I don’t agree that Painsworth didn’t deserve a penalty, but it’s ridiculous that the refs didn’t do shit to Jacobs.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Just saw a video of it. How did Jacobs not get penalized at all? Even more so the second guy that came in when it was just Hall and Jacobs?
Hilarious that Jacobs was celebrating the fact that him and another threw someone on the ground half their size. I’m so sick of Jacobs, he’s not that good, always complains, bitches and moans, makes excuses for why he’s sucked so bad this year and talks mad shit.
Jacobs will get fined for sure...
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 22, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
isn't it funny
that BOTH of the “fights” we’ve had this year started with Hall getting shoved around, and ended with Big Al coming to his defense? The 2 “new guys”, who came from different organizations, know you’re supposed to have your teammates back. Phil Daniels is strong as an ox, and Carter is like one big muscle, yet neither of them are anywhere around when stuff goes down. Landry too. He’s built like an MMA fighter, and loves to lay late hits on unsuspecting players. But when things get real, he’s a ghost. You think if Ed Reed gets jumped by the other team, the rest of the Ravens are gonna sit around and watch? Hell no. Of course, that’s a moot point, cuz other teams don’t pick fights with the Ravens.
Meddlesome owner
Players need to fear/be accountable to the HC for a team to be successful.
If you have a meddlesome owner, players don’t take the coach seriously.
Look at the Giants having success, and the Cowboys and us not having success. The difference is Snyder/Jones are a-holes who want their finger in everything.
You might be forgetting...
Big Al is still fat, lazy, and out of shape. His performance during their first drive was embarrassing. I watched him come off the field and take a knee after two plays. That is pathetic. I also like the fact that he speaks out, and he is certainly a great player when he plays. Too bad it isnt very often.
I don't think
it was his choice to come off the field.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
and he still played?
Wow, good for him! That’s a warrior!
Enough
With the Big AL hate. Consider what is coming at him every game. I’d say he is one of the few who is actually earning his money.
Yeah....
I’ve actually been impressed by him, from what I’ve seen. Not so much at his ability, but at his attitude. He came with grumbling that he’s got laziness and attitude problems, but from what I’ve seen, he’s one of the few guys who’s playing with fire out there.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
He def came off
and was on one knee after a couple plays winded wheezing like he was having an asthma attack…then he would go in for a couple plays…then be back on the sideline on one knee proposing to the bench players…
I'm just finding this out today too, courtesy of HH
but apparently he had, or has, the stomach flu
SpotieOtieDopalicious
You'd think the whole team had it yesterday.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 22, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I wish they all did
it would make yesterday’s nationally televised snuff film a lot easier to handle.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
its a tiny thing but I think significant
There was one play last night in the 3rd quarter, a wide run (a sweep maybe?) by the Giants and on the replay they showed the angle from behind the play (i.e. Low Camera Giants side of the line) and as the play disintegrates and the Giants runner is pushed out of bounds you can see Albert running over their to help out and i emphasise RUNNING
Now Albert had ABSOLUTELY NO CHANCE of getting anywhere near the player with the ball, but he still was busting his but in that general direction and running past teammates who had stopped cos, as I said they were never gonna get there anyway, but thats not the point, you should still TRY.
You might not think this is much, but I do, it shows a mindset, an attitude, that I admire.
You will never here me bag Big Al ever, I dont think I ever have, but from this moment on he is one of my favourite redskins.
Pommylee
nice
good observation.
"It was one of those things where everyone in the building was suddenly excited again," Cerrato said. "And all the women in the building were the most excited. They couldn't believe we were getting the guy from "Dancing With the Stars."
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 23, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
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