Wikipedia says it's Jon Gruden

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:15 PM EST

I know I just posted that I thought it would be Shanahan, but......

And we all know Wikipedia is never wrong. I just wanna know who wrote it so quickly.

Jon David Gruden (born August 17, 1963 in Sandusky, Ohio) is currently the head coach of the Washington Redskins of the NFL. Prior to taking over as coach of Washington, he was the head coach of Tampa Bay and of the Oakland Raiders for 4 years.

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Jon David Gruden (born August 17, 1963 in Sandusky, Ohio) is currently the head coach of the Washington Losers of the NFL. Prior to taking over as coach of Washington

by dr WNC on Dec 17, 2009 2:32 PM EST reply actions

Jon David Gruden (born August 17, 1963 in Sandusky, Ohio) will currently never be the head coach of the Washington Redskins of the NFL because they are the worst football team ever. Prior to deciding to never take over as coach of Washington,

At least THIS edition is somewhat amusing.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, yeah, I know, I know,

it might well be somebody’s speculation and/or prank.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions

didn’t already have the link to the ‘Skins’ org, I would say the Allen hiring makes it a no-brainer that Gruden was the next coach. Allen and Gruden worked together in Oakland and Tampa Bay, and in fact, Gruden brought Allen over from Oakland because he couldn’t get along with Rich McKay.

This could also be Snyder thinking he needs a “tough” head coach. Maybe he thinks Zorn has been too easy on the players. We’ve seen him do this once before, when he hired Marty to take over from Norv.

And, of course, the WCO is already in place in Washington. Like Tampa in 2002, we’ve got a championship-worthy D but need somebody to get us to score some points.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:37 PM EST reply actions

Also,

Gruden is even more likely than Shanahan to allow somebody else to be GM. You can’t say that for Holmgren (who looks like he’s going to Cleveland anyway) or Cowher.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions

Allen says he's evaluating

Allen on Coach Jim Zorn: “I met today with Jim Zorn. Told him what we’re going to try to do in the next few weeks. We’re going to have some more meetings and discuss the future.”
Allen’s impressions about the Redskins: “From afar, I like their talent. They have a nice core of talent here. That’s attractive. They have some young players whose futures are extremely bright.”

by dr WNC on Dec 17, 2009 2:47 PM EST reply actions

That's hilarious

He just complimented Cerrato’s work here with the “young players whose futures are extremely bright” comment.

by travisjh86 on Dec 17, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions

Well, yeah. Sure.

The problem is, we have the WRONG PLAYERS, and absolutely NO BRIGHT PLAN to go with those futures.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 18, 2009 2:52 AM EST up reply actions

+99 on no plan - yet.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 18, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions

Dback, What wrong players ??

I think our team is alot better than our record. The reason that we are not playoff bound has alot more to do with the Head Coach than anything. Jim Zorn was like a Alcoholic he did not realize he had a problem (bad play caller) until some one pointed it out ( Dan Snyder). The difference is that a Alcoholic realizes he is a drunk normally after he runs someone off the road. Zorn will only loose his job, for not recognizing his weakness and finding some help on his own.

by LETJASONPASS on Dec 18, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions

We have too many wide receivers

and not enough linebackers or offensive linemen. Most of our depth players aren’t particularly good, and were signed just for that reason — depth, with no thought as to talent or ability. We also had a pretty lousy kicker until recently.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 18, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions

Oh....

and I can’t BELIEVE we got rid of Jeremy Bridges.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 18, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions

I agree we need to add maybe two linebackers, a stud left tackle and a center/guard combo player.

We only need to get rid of ARE as far as receivers go.

by LETJASONPASS on Dec 18, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions

I'm sure they talked about it

depth, with no thought as to talent or ability.

from a talent perspective, but with all the high priced FAs the salary cap problem results in drafting, corralling, skimming off the streets people who can be signed at minimum price. Why else could anyone not fathom the talent gap between D. Jackson of Philly and our subsequent drafting of M. Kelly.

High priced FAs cause spikes in your lineup between great players and just minimally talented players across the board. This is only exacerbated when the high priced FA only performs at a league average talent level (D. Hall in my opinoin)

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 18, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions

I can understand

why they drafted Kelly over Jackson. They were looking to get a bunch of BIG targets for Campbell to throw to, since the receivers they’d gotten in the recent past were all small, fast guys like DeSean Jackson. (Santana Moss, Antwaan Randle-El, David Patten, Taylor Jacobs, etc.) Since Moss and Randle-El were the incumbents, it seemed redundant to get a younger version of ’Tana. Plus, wide receivers are probably the toughest position to judge in college and draft successfully for the NFL.

And frankly, McNabb is a better quarterback RIGHT NOW than Jason Campbell, so McNabb helps make Jackson look good. As does the fact that Philly’s offense isn’t totally dysfunctional. Although McNabb doesn’t have Campbell’s arm for the deep ball.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 18, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions

All good points

I should have used a better example, for example one of the linebackers we ended up with (or discarding).

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 18, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions

brilliant post Dbacks

love the fact you felt the need to put RIGHT NOW in capitals to escape LJP’s wrath!!!

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Dec 22, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions

I'll bet the Gruden is NOT out coach next season.

If I was in Allen’s shoes, I wouldn’t want to hire the only guy I’ve ever worked with, especially since I didn’t win a championship with him. Of course, I’ll feel foolish when Gruden is discussing everything he will do differently next year as coach when commentating on monday.

by Boo. on Dec 17, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions

Another reason it might be Gruden:

Gruden’s not gonna be afraid to work for Dan Snyder. Snyder is like a richer, less insane version of Al Davis.

"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"

by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 3:26 PM EST reply actions

Which

should have taught him a lesson. Stay with the TV crew and take it easy while bringing in the big bucks.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 17, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions

Less insane is debatable. Davis is probably senile. Snyder is too young to be senile. Davis at least was a coach at the college and pro level. Snyder was the last guy picked in kickball.

by killianskid34 on Dec 17, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions

I don't think he was even picked.

I think they just kicked him. Would explain a lot.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Dec 17, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions

Washington Redskins
With Vinny Cerrato resigning from The Redskins on December 17th 2009, The Washington Redskins hired Bruce Allen, son of late Redskins Hall of Fame coach George Allen. The Redskins and former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan have begun talks over Washington’s still-occupied head-coaching position.

The team is in talks—Whoo-hoo! a great source of the truth Wikipedia

by dr WNC on Dec 18, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions