Locker a Lock
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 10:33 AM EST
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to stay at Washington. Told Coaches and AD he will not make himself available for this years draft.
If we were to give up on Jason, he was my top choice. This either makes it imperative we keep Jason (Yes - IMHO) or prepare to hail Clausen, McCoy or Bradford. The rest of this text is just filler because I can't think of anything off the top of my head to say to annoy LetJasonPass. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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LOL LJP
He gave me a good hearty laugh the other day when he told someone that “some people on this site say the same thing over and over again without listening to what others are saying” or something to that equivilent
by skinsfan28 on Dec 15, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
8 votes
All for Keeping Campbell and Zorn—→WoW!
As much as I don’t think Zorn is a head coach for the Redskins to be succesful in 2010 in my opinion the Front office needs to keep the coaching staff intact, focus on interior offensive lineman in the Draft and Free Agency with RB, LB and Secondary flyers in the late rounds.
by dr WNC on Dec 15, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Giving up what we have now
presuming the trend continues through this year, would be like overhauling your car’s engine, painting racing stripes on it, and selling it to the kid next door without ever racing it. With the O-line fixed and a few tweaks in the secondary and I say we go to the races.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
29 votes now,
and STILL none for Clausen and Weis.
I have a feeling that C&W wouldn’t be as ignored if it didn’t seem like Vinny was moving in that direction.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only because
there’s no way to vote for keeping JC and dumping Zorn
by aFan4Life on Dec 16, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PLEEEASE no Clausen.
I was sorta warming up to Jake Locker as an alternative to Jimmy “4 National Championships” Clausen. I’d MUCH rather we kept Jason, though. AND Zorn.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
well I think the masses
can attest to the change that the staff came up with for JC in regards to his play calling has really helped. He checks the wristband and he knows what the play is. Who would have thunk something so simple would make such a huge difference, but the ball is coming out faster and more accurately despite our OL woes.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Dec 15, 2009 12:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady even has wrsitbands.. What took so long to figure this out ?? Oh that is right it took us to the 7th game to get Sherm in here.
Great idea Sherm “The Bingo Caller” Lewiis ..
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to disappoint you, LJP
but there are absolutely no Sherm Lewis haters on this site. Go bug ESPN if it still bothers you that they came up with that moniker.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah....
the “KEEP JC” and “FIRE ZORN” rants actually have controversy, but NOBODY here is arguing with Spermin’ Sherman coming in. (Or is it cumming in?)
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cumming out actually
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Dec 15, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry to disapoint you, Scott E.
but to give a man (Zorn) credit for another mans work ( Sherm Lewis) is hating in my book. By the way I have seen alot of that in here lately. Maybe you are not reading some of the posts. To think that we should get rid of Sherm but keep Jim Zorn as the OC. I have read that mutiple times in here.
That is someone that is a pure lunatic. Some people remain in “The Nile” (denial) they are all wet. If a person thinks that the main reason for the turn around is because of Zorn and not Sherm “The Bingo Caller” Lewis .
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who the Hell
has said that we should “get rid of” Sherman Lewis?
Can you produce even ONE comment that says that?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LJP
I think you’re a little bit off on this one dude.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Dec 15, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you read some of the lists on "The Post You Be The GM":
Rekka, Come on I am not like Scott if I say that I have seen something you can beleive it. I just figure that others on here read the same posts.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
people are going to disagree with you on some things LJP
and making blanket statements like that one makes absolutely no sense. Because some people took a wait and see approach with Sherms instead of saying “hell no.” They’re a part of HH too.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Dec 15, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am talking about some people leaving Sherm Lewis off of their list ..
and putting Zorn on as OC for next year. The key word is some people. I am not talking about everyone. How often do you read a post from that says everyone ??
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
when you said Hogs Haven I thought you meant the site as a whole.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Dec 15, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok , I was talking aboutsome in here and you know who they are.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record I have NEVER
attributed Sherm L’s success at play calling to Zorn, nor have I ever even suggested that anyone but Sherm L be the OC next year.
What part of my repeated statements that Zorn was overloaded being OC AND HC and Snyder brought Sherm L. in to fix that do you not get, LJP?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW, Scott, I guess you just assumed I was talking about you..
LOL, You know what they say about that. You make an ass out of U and me. Now, I know that you are used to that and since you are “The Boss” of your job as you say. I bet if I asked your two employess (Wife and Cat) they would tell me the same thing. The cat would just say Meow, meow or do you have one of those rub up against your leg kind of cats ??
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What part of this from just a few
posts ago do you not recognize?
Sorry to disapoint you, Scott E.
but to give a man (Zorn) credit for another mans work ( Sherm Lewis) is hating in my book.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well when you say that Zorn has the team playing better and it is not even the part of the team he controls..
That is my point . You give Zorn credit for the turn around on offense and he is not even the OC ?? The defense has been doing basicly the same. The special teams has been doing the same besides Devin. So what part of the team has changed for the better other than our Offense which like I said Zorn is not even the OC for now. Sherm came in to fix the offense and he reports to Dan not Jim. So I think he has more power over that part of our team than Zorn does..
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but what I have been saying is that
Sherm L. fixed the offense through his play calling. I said that the reason we keep Zorn is because the team did not tank on him as HC. I think morale improved accidentally – so to speak – due to a few injuries (esp. CP) and the fact that more people are playing – in particular, the younger people. Ever since the 2nd half of the Falcons game, the D has been tackling better, but still giving up big plays. The point is the entire team has come together and it has taken many people and many circumstances for it to occur, including Zorn and Sherm.
You pretend to have said that the offense got better the minute Sherm L. arrived. But you can’t say that cuz no one knew it would actually work and the verdict was out until the Raiders game, where we clearly had superior play calling and way better execution.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+ 1
lots of people said that sherm lewis “could help this team” but since he has helped, you’re the only one that claims that you were pressing the Sherm Lewis movement like you went out and hired the guy
by skinsfan28 on Dec 16, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What??
Most, not all in here parroted the Sherm " The Bingo Caller" Lewis crap. I did not hire him but I supported him from day one. Chris Carter one of the all time great receivers was bragging about Sherm l. So why would I go against a true professional football guy that played for Sherm and knows him?
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did say it once
right after it was announced Sherm was hired. But in fact, the Bingo Caller moniker was not so much a slam against Sherm, but a slam against Snyder who would hire a “Bingo Caller” to be his OC.
Since then I’ve given everyone props for the way this has worked out, including Sherm for improved offensive play and play calling, Snyder for actually solving that problem and Zorn for playing along.
I think some of Jason’s remarkable improvement the last two games in particular were the result of Zorn having time to work with him and make him better.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would say the "bingo caller name" for some was directed at Dan and others at Sherm
You have given everyone props for the turn around. But Zorn did not have but one other choice and that was to hit the road.. You just have a different opinon than mine. I think he is playing better because of Sherm and his play calling and changing some of the passing routes also he has more freedom. If you notice we now have mutiple receivers open on some plays. The decison to start using Devin as our primary receiver instead of Moss has been a big help.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott, actually most people that knew Sherm L.
said that he would be a good fit. Some of you just read into what the media was saying. But any of his ex- players that spoke about him said positive things. Like he was a redzone genius. I was on here supporting him from day one because I listened to what his former players said not the media. What team have you been watching ??The verdict was out until the Raiders game LOL. I guess we played bad against philliy and New Orleans ?? What was the third down stat under Zorn. Under zorn we were 30% on 3rd down and under Sherm we were 50% and actually that game were at 60% on third downs.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK, it was conclusive by
the Saints game that we had really turned the corner. And yes, your stats are fine. You just have to remember that in his inimitable style Snyder fixed a problem he created when he did not hire an HC and then let the HC hire his OC. So the whole Sherm L thing was handled in a weird way IMO, and was strange because it was an attempt to fix a problem that I can’t even remember any NFL team ever having:
that being a novice HC also being the OC out of desperation. One could almost make the statement that ANY experienced OC could have come in and the play calling would have improved just because Zorn had way too many responsibilities and little experience as HC or OC.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree most experienced OC's could have made a ...
difference but how much? The one thing we can say is that based on Sherms coaching history he knows the West coast part of our offense better than most OC’s. It also did not hurt that we had better pieces in place than most people would have ever known by looking at our record.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Finally!! I totally Agree!!
Seriously, dude – I’m not joking around.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 17, 2009 8:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Hogs Haven" is not a comment.
Hogs Haven is an unofficial Washington Redskins blog and community.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is there "Twighlight Zone" music
going through my head as I read this?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know,
somehow, I don’t recall you clamoring for Snyderatto to bring in Sherman Lewis to call plays prior to that 7th game.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One thing that is funny I was one of the few people defending Sherm " The Bingo Caller" Lewis and was happy that he was here.
It is amazing how he is no longer a “Bingo Caller” to anyone in here now. LOL
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Care to link to the thread?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, Dan,
you have any plans for MNF against the Giants next week?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
McCoy is not even close to being the best QB prospect in this draft.
“
McCoy/Shanny – If we are going to change, not bad to go with the best QB and the guy who coached Elway”
Bradford and Clausen are both better prospects, and IMO so is LeFevor, Tony Pike and Ryan Mallett if he comes out early.
Shanahan/Bradford looks like a better option if you want to put it into that text.
Anyways, my vote is Zorn/campbell eventhough I feel the FO will go the other direction.
by Tiller56 on Dec 15, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The number 2 slot on the ballet
was kind of a crap shoot all the way around and I was too lazy to go to all possible permutations. Good call on it, though.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Most of these guys are busts when they get to the NFL because they either play on a team that is better than the teams they play against. You need to look at Clausen he has a receiver that is always better than any DB he plays against.He can just ....
wing the ball out there and Golden Tate will catch and out run the DB most of the time
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LJP that was the best, most articulate
and spot on post you have had since I have seen you post on HH. Seriously, nice stuff.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow , Golllllie ( my best impression of Gomer Pyle) I can die and go to heaven now.
I have Scott " The Boss" E’s approval now !! LOL You must be kiddding a post from you without your BS sarcasim would be incomplete. I have tryed the better part of the last day to leave you alone. The problem occurs when you mention me on every post out fo the blue. I am curious do you have dreams or nightmares about me.I have always wandered what a dick weed was now I no.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHA
" I have tryed the better part of the last day to leave you alone." hey who posted this thread anyway? LJP dude your hilarious
by skinsfan28 on Dec 16, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I should have nightmares...
Seems like you are stalking me, now.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No argument from anyone....
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Except Vinny.
Vinny disagrees. :-\
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WE AGREE!!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shanny – If we are going to change, not bad to go with the best QB and the guy who coached Elway
WHAT!?!?! When has Shanahan ever developed a QB? Elway was already a 6 time Pro Bowler when Shanahan joined the squad.
by pas493 on Dec 15, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But.... but
Brian Griese! Jake Plummer! Jay Motherfucking Cutler!
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!!
A totally correct and obvious reason why Shanahan should not even be considered for the HC job. I knew that, but his name keeps coming up. I agree with PommyLee that Shanny is well past his prime and way overrated.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 15, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Always happy to have people agree with me and I since have more info
to back up the “No Shanahan” Argument
I have made this point elsewhere, but I read on SI.com recently that in the History of the NFL
NOT ONE SUBERBOWL WINNING HC NOT ONE
Has gone on to win a SB at another franchise, it has literally never happened, so why would we be so desperate to get a SB coach if the record suggests they can not transfer that success
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 15, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm....
for one thing, SB winning HC’s don’t change franchises very often. The relatively small # of SB winning HC’s makes me somewhat hesitant to call this a “hard and fast” rule — pretty small sample size.
Holmgren won a SB with the Packers, then lost one with the Seahawks. Vermeil lost one with the Eagles, then won one with the Rams. Reeves lost SBs while with the Falcons and Broncos.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
true true true
the small sample size is something I did not think about to be honest
However
My point is not neccesarily that it is a bad idea to hire a SB winning coach, more my point is that it is not the slam dunk guarantee of success that some people (in the media more than on here) seem to think it is.
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 15, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah.
I’d probably agree with that. There are very few coaches that have successfully transitioned and led multiple franchises to Super Bowls.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it couldn't hurt.
It’s not as if the fact that Bill Cowher won with the Steelers means he COULDN’T ever win one with another franchise, for example. IMO, it’s just a statistical anomaly that it hasn’t happened yet.
Or, maybe not such an anomaly, given the sheer # of head coaches since the SB era began.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the main reason
a coach has never won a superbowl with more than one team has alot to do with the age of head coaches, it used to be that you didn’t become a head coach till you were 50+ years old but now with guys doing it earlier in there life I think we will see some coaches repeat on different teams.
by skinsfan28 on Dec 16, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
More examples
Shula lost one with the Colts, then won one and lost three with the Dolphins. Parcells won two with the Giants then lost one with the Patriots.
Given that out of 43 Super Bowls and 86 possible participant spots, only 25 different coaches have ever won a SB, while 16 more have lost but never won, there aren’t a whole lot of coaches to go around.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well I've mentioned this in other posts
I’m just not sold on the Big 12 or the SEC as conferences that develop pro level QB’s. I’ve noted that there are exceptions to the rules, like the Manning brothers, and M. Vick V2.0 (Vince Young) and with the exception of JC finally coming along, the other guys have been mostly meh (J. Cutler – aka Jeff George’s illegitimate son and he who is JaMarcus). I will allow that it’s too soon to tell for Stafford or Freeman but when you hear all about how the level/quality of QB play is supposed to raise a team from the ashes, well in the cases of Detroit and Tampa, there are a whole lotta ashes to be raised.
Take a look at the NFL rosters for the QB position, you see a lot of MAC representation, a good share of guys from the Big 10 and the ACC and a boatload from the Pac10. Granted conferences trends can change over time and while the football is great in the Big12 and the SEC, the QB’s play just doesn’t appear to compare.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Dec 15, 2009 5:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vince Young isn't M. Vick 2.0.
Vince Young can pass.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sheesh 'Skins
I said that down below…. damn nitpicker!, hence why he’s an upgraded version and all….
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Dec 15, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Michael Vick is ACC
Not arguing with a pirate…just sayin
by ENsDad27 on Dec 15, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i know that...
but I did dub Vince Young as Michael Vick V2.0, same wheels, better arm and accuracy, perhaps that was the source of confusion. While I have never been a Vick fan, he did get the Falcons to the playoffs and other ACC signal callers have had success as well, Rivers, Schaub come immediately to mind.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong combination:
I would have preferred a Shanny/Jason combo. The offensives blocking scheme has some similarity and Shanny could modify his jargon to that currently used by the Skins.
Shanny might want to keep the rest of the coaching staff. I don’t see Zorn improving on time management and time outs. Change Sherm Lewis to OC. We don’t need another QB as a starter, Someone should replace Collins, but keep the draft picks for 1st. offensive line, 2nd. defensive backs, and 3rd. linebackers.
by Jefferson1935 on Dec 15, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me too
I think Zorn is horrible at HC and OC but JC is doing great considering what he has to work with. Sherm seems to be working at OC so make it official.
Is it possible that any of the potential head coaches will want to keep JC? I don’t know but I hope so.
I also see no point in holding onto Collins, he’s relatively expensive and totally ineffective.
by aFan4Life on Dec 16, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Todd's gone.
I’m surprised they even kept him around after Weird Al was sent packing.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 16, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Business and Money
His contract is up this year, so agree he is gone
by dr WNC on Dec 16, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of an amazing career, though
to have “played” so many years without really being thought of as the starter. Supposed starters like Heath Schuler, Ramsey, Ferrotte etc. have all come and gone. Kinda like being Terry Bradshaws backup forever, but without the rings and bumps on the head.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, it's sorta like Matt Cassel.
The guy never started a game at USC, he was Leinart’s backup and then I believe he was Booty’s backup. (Maybe it was Palmer, BEFORE Leinart)
Yet, New England takes a chance on him in the late rounds and now he’s a starter in the pros.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like he got his big chance with us
when he took us to the playoffs, but was already considered too old. At least Snyder did the right thing by giving him a big payout for his late season heroics that year.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 17, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I suppose,
but you’re supposed to pay a guy based on how you think he’ll perform in the future, NOT how he’s performed in the past.
Then again, Todd didn’t have a lot of wear and tear on his body, either.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't underestimate Snyderatto
They could trade JC before they even hired a new coach. This scenario builds out of the likelihood that no coach will want to come to the team soon and deal with the Twin Terlitz. If Zorn is fired immediately, we could face draft day w/out a HC. How does that sound?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How would if be different?
When “the Twin Terlitz” is the entity making the decisions?
What you’ve conveniently ignored is that if the Twin Terlitz had their way, Shanahan would already be the HC. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him named HC the day after the season ends. I doubt we’ll have a draft day without a HC.
by aFan4Life on Dec 16, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just saying...
It was only a year and a half ago we had a QB Coach/OC without an HC and that was practically going into the season, although my timeline memory is a little sketchy here.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I can't believe
for a minute that Shanny would come to DC and expect to have NO control over the draft, who the QB is, the coaching staff, etc. I mean he was HC and GM at Denver and insisted on becoming GM just to get more control of the operations.
That would be hugely desperate on his part to be willing to give up so much. Don’t see either the Twins or Shanny giving in on that issue.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably true but
Shanny wants to coach again so he might give a little. And maybe VC has lost some of his pull with Snyder. A rift between Snyder and VC maybe?
by aFan4Life on Dec 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rift between Snyder and VC?
I suppose it’s possible, but it mostly depends on whether or not you think VC’s the one actually in charge of football operations, or, like some have said, Snyder actually makes all the personnel decisions and VC take the blame for him.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the latter, as it is the Jerry Jones model.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 17, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rooney Rule will stop this
wouldn’t be surprised to see him named HC the day after the season ends
But I get your point
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 16, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah.
They’d just give Greg Blache a perfunctory interview and then call it even.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
rules like the Rooney rule are somewhat silly as all they do is make the organization go through the motions of pretending like they are considering people when they’re really not. There’s no way to legislate fairness, you can only legislate the appearance of fairness.
by aFan4Life on Dec 17, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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