Discussion Debate: You Be The GM for 2010
by Pommylee on Dec 14, 2009 12:32 AM EST
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In an effort to prove that like Irishmen, if you put 4 Redskins fans in a room you will get 6 opinions I have thought of this thread.
Basically you are the GM for 2010, you have full control over these decisions for the following year.
Coach
Offensive Co-Ordinator
Defensive Co-Ordinator
Special Teams Coach
QB
1st and 2nd Rd picks by name (or position, but exact, so no O-Line you have to say Tackle or Guard for instance)
3-7 rd picks by position (3rd and 6th picks are gone due to Jarmon and Jason Taylor)
FA
Trades are allowed but have to be realistic, so you could trade Cooley for a 2nd Rd pick, or maybe even a 2 and a 4, but not for a 1 and a 3.
MY TURN
Coach- I cannot believe I am saying this but I think I keep Zorn, the players really are playing hard for him against all logic, really they should have checked out weeks ago, but somehow he has the guys playing hard, however I keep Zorn under one Proviso, he hires a competent OC, which leads to my next pick.
OC- Look to be honest I don't know that much about the co-ordinators out there, so I am happy to take ideas here from anyone, but I would look to a college co-ordiantor from a big program, for one reason, JC17 has great feet and I would like to see more plays designed to use them, I wanna see Jason Run, he has shown he can take the hard hits, so why not let him go a little Vince Young and make some yards on the run, once again though, I am happy for this idea to be slammed and other more realistic options offered up.
DC- Jerry Gray, promoted from Secondary coach and GROOMED TO BE THE NEXT HC, we need to develop a Redskins identity and you cant do this by looking outside the organisation all the time, we need to develop some ppl, so I give Gray the chance to prove himself as a leader and a playcaller in a more challenging role that secondary coach.
Special Teams Coach - Keep our guy who we have now, I hear nothing but good things about him and the trick plays he developed combined with a stingy Special Teams D that never gives up TD's means he stays.
QB- I keep Jason, hes clearly a good leader and a high character guy and thats what we need right now in that locker room, HOWEVER I also employ a top level sport pyshologist and get him to spend hours with Jason mentally rehearsing late game situations and force him to watch hours of tape of well run two minute drills, also I would ask Zorn to incorporate some 2 minute stuff into the middle of quarters in the pre-season to ensure Jason is sharp in this area of the game.
1st Rd Pick - This Okung guy who is a Tackle all you guys are hot on, so I would defer to your superior knowledge and take him as the high OT
2nd Rd Pick - I would go O-Tackle again, although there is an argument for going Secondary if there is a highly rated player who has fallen out of the first round.
Picks 3-7 - 3rd round RB and then project O-Line from 4 throuhg to 7, I would get one of the Stanford Guards, I saw some of their games this year and there is no doubt they contributed to Gerhardts year, so even if they dont bench 300 or run quick 40's take them the way the Steelers do, as Footballers not athletes and lets see what we can find.
FA- I beleive a good tackle is available from the Chargers so if we could get him take him, my understanding is he is only 26 or something (thanks again to the good citizens of HH for this info) However even if we do get this guy it does not change my draft strategy, O-Line is hit and miss in the lower rounds, plus its a high injury area so depth is essential.
TRADES- If we can get 3rd or 4th rd picks for Portis, ARE or Cartwright we jump all over it and use them picks to trade up into the 2nd Rd again if possible and get another highly rated O-Lineman.
Personally I keep Cooley, but if someone was desperate and offered a 2nd and a 3rd you would have to seriously consider it, like really really massively consider it, but I doubt you would get that offer,
ANYWAY
That is my attempt, let the abuse begin, but more importantly I want to see all of your ideas, PLUS can someone give me some ideas for Offensive Co-Ordinators
LJP this thread is a whole of organisation theory not a Jason Campbell argument, take them posts elsewhere
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I dont like the guy
dont know why, just dont, he doesnt blitz enough in my opinion and although I’m probably wrong, I feel the D has regressed over the season (meaning the good D for the last 2 years is partially attributable to good habits instilled by Gregg Williams still having an impact)
We give up to many big plays, (and yes you could argue thats on Grey so I could be hypocritical there) but still I have heard Grey speak, I like him and I think we should change
Like I said thats just my idea, I am really more interested in hearing other peoples to be honest because I am sure I will take alot of them ideas on board, so step up and show us what you got DBACKSKINS :)
Pommylee
Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too.
Doesn’t performance count for anything?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 14, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you both on Blache
and I dont think its neccesarily a bad decision to keep him, i just think that Gray is so highly recomended and touted for great things in the future that its imperative to keep him around and to do that he has to see career progression,
Also for all the talk about Blaches Top Ten Defenses surely some of that credit has to go to the residual effect still felt from the Gregg Williams years
But again, I cant really say you are wrong to keep him, its just my opinion
Pommylee
I think its a reasonable thing to expect
a Blache >> Gray transition beginning next year if Blache doesn’t just retire this year. He won’t be around much longer in any event and we should be doing all we can to make Gray the next DC.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Sounds like a plan.
The only thing that gives me pause is the memory of George Edwards replacing Marvin Lewis.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
I share some Blache frustrations ...
But is Gray the answer, given that two of the major frustrations with the defense are (1) corners that play 15 yards off of the line of scrimmage and constantly concede first downs; and (2) 2 or 3 plays every game where a receiver is running alone in the deep secondary? I mean, Gray is the secondary coach, so I have some pause about just assuming that he’ll be great running the whole defense.
I hear ya
and I ahve the same concerns
BUT
Apparently he is a really good leader and highly regarded and all but assured of getting a bigger role (College HC or NFL DC) soon, so why not keep a talented highly regarded guy and develop a skins identity,.
But your concerns are shared by me
I just think from what I’ve heard I would take the punt
Pommylee
I think Gray is stuck
with the situation you describe due to the fact that we don’t have any really good coverage corners and the way Blache deploys his defense along the front to stop the run AND put pressure on the passer.
Ideally, this would be a bend but not break scheme, if it weren’t for the WTFs we’ve experienced this year with our Safeties and other mental breakdowns.
I would sure be interested in seeing any changes he would make as HC, though.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Great post !!
The position caoch is responsible for his players. Maybe Gray does want Blache’s job. My only complaint is that I wish he would blitz more. It does not make any sense to get rid of a good D coordinator. When the majority of our busted plays have been at the hands of one person. Can anyone guess who that oner person is ? (Laron “Flex” Landry)
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 9:36 AM EST up reply actions
"Consistently"?
Two years now. That’s it. If you want to bring up Chicago, fine.
In 99, his first year, his defense ranked 29th. 2000-16th; 2001-15th; 2002-25th; 2003-14th
Last year, 4th. This year, 7th so far (we were ranked higher earlier in the year though)
So what is consistent about his defenses exactly?
Also, he went from Defensive Coordinator of the Bears to Defensive Line Coach of the Redskins — clearly not a lateral move; that’s what you might call a demotion via new employer.
By 2005, the resurgence of the Bears’ defense had occurred and Greg Blache was nowhere to be found. But yeah, let’s keep this guy is is set in his ways and whose style of coaching does not lend to the improvisational styles of our two highest-paid players (Haynesworth and Hall) nor to the multi-faceted talents of guys like McIntosh, Landry, and Doughty. Yeah, you’re right. He’s stupendous.
Just because the defense ranks highly in yards allowed does not mean that there are not problems with turnovers, blitzes, big plays, and fourth-quarter stands. This defense fades after the 3rd quarter. Part of that has to do with the players. It also has to do with the DC not showing enough variety to keep opposing teams guessing. Complex offenses are defeated by complex defenses. We have one of the most basic defensive packages in the league. We get by on talent and discipline, but you need more than that to transcend from good defense to elite defense. We need someone who does new and experimental things on defense, who has a wide variety of packages and looks. We need Gregg Williams.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
I could say I agree 100%
but it won’t make a difference. Williams will never coach this team in any capacity unless Snyderotto have a collective heart attack.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Whoa....
a Snyderatto heart attack? Is that an option??
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
We could forcefeed them bacon cheeseburgers for every meal for the next six months.
They’ll be gone by the time training camp rolls around.
"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!
Or just really, really, really heavy.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I like the idea of promoting Gray to DC
Its probably time for Blache to head out to pasture anyway, given he is old and has some health issues. We need to give Gray more responsibility and show a commitment to him/investment in him if we want to keep him around. He is a good coach and he is getting consideration for other jobs out there (almost left for Memphis not too long ago). It would be a real shame for us to lose him.
I think we should keep this offensive staff intact. They stunk it up at the beginning of the season, and all of us were calling for their heads. It is obvious now that the unit has progressed and continues to progress, so perhaps we should go the continuity route here. An offseason will also give us a way to clear up this playcalling situation and give Spermin’ Sherman an official position. We need to keep him around if we stay with the same system and coaches.
1st Round- Hopefully Okung falls to us. If not, we take Trent Williams or Ciron Black. If Bryan Bulaga declares, we take him.
2nd Round- I like Brandon Campbell at guard. Really, though, we take the top-rated guard available. The right side of our line is now rebuilt.
3rd- I’m not going to deal with trades, because I really have no idea who would be interested in what players of ours or what we’d get for them (given that our FO sucks at negotiations). So, we have no 3rd round pick.
4th- Best RB available.
5th-7th- Project linemen and DBs.
FA- I haven’t spent alot of time looking at who is going to be available, so I’ll just talk about our guys. I say that we re-sign Levi Jones and have our 1st rounder play RT next year. Resign Campbell. Resign Rogers. Given his play this year, we shouldn’t have to pay him like one of the elite corners. Resign Mike Williams to keep around as a backup. Rocky McIntosh is a top priority this offseason. We should be working on his contract NOW.
cooley
why do you guys keep thinking that we cant get a 1st rounder for cooley? hes a pro bowler. hes young. i’m pretty sure teams would jump at the chance to get him.
Probably because
you can draft a Chris Cooley in the 1st round on your own?
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
There is no way in hell you would get a 1st rounder for Chris Cooley. 3rd rounder probably at best. Tight ends are a dime a dozen. Look around the league, almost everyone has a good tight end.
this is rue
so why are you arguing with me on a different thread to trade him. Healthy, you would be doing well to get a third, coming off of a serious injury…maybe a fourth
duh??
you wrote “3rd rounder probably at best” above. Look up, five lines up from right here. It’s the one that says pas493 right below it
Tight Ends are not super
high values on the chessboard as opposed to high end CBs, QBs, and RBs. So you won’t get a 1st round for one – even a pbowler.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
because this isn't Madden
and teams rarely give up 1st rounders.
Once a blue moon a dumbass team like us or Dallas gives up 2 firsts for Joey Galloway
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Dec 15, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahahaha!!!!
So funny cuz it’s sooooo true!! And then they repeat the mistake with what’s his face – Williams? they got from Detroit!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Here we go
Let me just start by saying I don’t think 90% of this will happen, but with me as the GM, this is how I play it.
GM – Mike Holmgram
Coach – Mike Holmgrem, and keep Zorn as the o-coord and the Q-backs coach(this way we don’t need a complete overhaul)
D coord – Jerry Gray
QB – I have loved what I have seen from Jason over the last few weeks. I don’t think the FO feels this way, but while I’m GM, I keep JC.
FA – OT Marcus McNeil(chargers). McNeil should be one of the most coveted FA on the market this year. He will be 26 by the time next season starts. We obviously have to be concerned with the neck issue. WR Brandon Marshall(Broncos) OG Logan Mankins (Patriots)
Re-Sign – Campbell, Levi Jones, Heyer, McIntosh
Tender – Carlos Rodgers. Assuming he gets signed by another team, we should get a 2nd rd pick.
Trade – Cooley(2nd)
Release – Portis, Sellers, Randel-el, Thomas, Cartright
!st Rd Pick – There is no way we can get Okung, who is obviouysly the best of the bunch. So I will pick Andre Davis, OT Rutgers. He can play either side, but may be better suited for RT in the NFL.
2nd Rd Pick – Joseph Barksdale or Ciron Black, both OT’s from LSU. Assuming Barksdale enters the draft early, I believe one will still be there early in Rd 2.
2nd Rd Pick – Joe McKnight, RB USC. After seeing what Chris Johnson has done this year, try arguing that we couldn’t use someone like him on the Redskins. He is bigger, and more capable of running between the tackles than his predessor Reggie Bush, and should clock in the high 4.3’s in the 40. We have never had a back like this in DC before, and if were are going to stay with the WCO, I believe he could be a great fit.
(alternate pick) – Demarco Murray RB Oklahoma
3rd Rd Pick – We don’t have one. If we can add one via trade or from compensation I would select Matt Tennant C Boston College. He can be groomed to be Rabach’s replacement.
where di 3rd round pick go?
I know we are still missing the 6th round pick from the Jason Taylor trade. Or do I have this mixed up?
Jarmon
we picked him ip in the supplemental draft with our third rounder of this comming year
Zorn has already
proven he can’t be the OC. They will never hire Holgren due to control issues.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Gross
I’m glad your not our GM. First of all Holmgrem, eww. Why are we cutting DThomas?
Why can’t Okung fall to us? Look at the teams that will be drafting in front of us and their needs. Cleveland (QB, St. Louis (QB), Tampa (Prob take Suh), Detroit (prob take a DT), and someone is also going to take Eric Berry. Its not that far fetched for him to fall to us.
By Andre Davis, I assume you mean Anthony Davis. He is a projected second round pick! Theres like 5 tackles slated higher than him, so why the hell would we draft him? (Campbell, Brown, Bulaga, etc.)
Joe McKnight? WHAT? He’s like a projected 5th round pick at best. Why not go after Jahvid Best, Johnathan Dwyer, or Ryan Matthews.
I wouldnt draft jahvid best after the hit he suffered ealier in the year….that kid isnt gonna be right for years after that hit and can you really blame him? I would honestly like to see us draft a guy like Blount out of oregon or the speedy guy from ole miss( macrackin maybe??) I feel we could get one of them in a later round. Hell I’d even take Gareheart if it was after the second round that kid is just plain exciting to watch and he a brutal runner!
by CuseSkinsfan1 on Dec 15, 2009 4:10 AM EST up reply actions
ur going to undercut yourself straight away? why??
GM – Mike Holmgram
Your the GM dude, you dont need no Holmgren helping you out :)
Pommylee
Im pretty sure they just gave sellers a big fat contract extension so theres no chance in hell hes getting released….and besides if hes blocking for anyone other than portis this year you can see hes still a very capable FB.
by CuseSkinsfan1 on Dec 15, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions
Depends on how the extension is structured
Remember the magic of an “uncapped year:” sure signing bonuses create a salcap hit because they accelerate into the current year when you cut someone before their contract runs out, but hey presto! – it doesn’t matter because there is no cap to try to get the bonus under! Later years of large contracts are typically not guaranteed (they are often called “ego years” because they are in contracts for psychological reasons; no one expects them to actually play out).
Sellers is an option to release. Whether they do or not depends on what direction they want to go.
Later years of large contracts
aren’t actually bonuses, they’re salary. That’s why they’re not guaranteed.
IIRC, Snyder was one of the people who pioneered this idea.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
Zim Zorn as the Offensive Coordinator .... who will call the plays for him??
This would be sound logic if Zorn was responsible for the new offensive production. Since we know that he only calls plays during the two minute offense we no this is not true. This is according to Chris Cooley but maybe he has a hidden agenda (wink, wink,) LOL Have any of you guys not noticed but this is our least productive time. (two minute drill)
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
exactly
which is why I can’t see why people want to keep Zorn at all. I’d be ok with Sherm at OC but Zorn needs to go.
I just can not figure out this keep Zorn movement??
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Not surprised, but I'll give you a hint
YOU DO NOT READ CAREFULLY WHAT OTHERS POST
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Agreed.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
The only argument I've seen is "continuity"
But I don’t see the value of continuity when you’re keeping someone who’s not good at his job.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
Because play-calling isn't all a coach does.
Scheme preparationg, delegation, and player development are all equally (if not more so) important.
Your ongoing complaint has been that since Zorn isn’t calling plays anymore, he isn’t doing anything – which is false.
+2
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 16, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
there are lots of things a normal HC does
but Zorn has been shoved into a corner and has become a mere figurehead.
Zorn is the only person and is key in those things? I don’t. He is not the inventor of the WCO – he’s just another follower and there are plenty of other people who understand it…like Sherm Lewis.
And the position coaches do more in player development than the HC.
Great Thread (I've intentionally not read other comments so as to give a true opinion. I will read them after this)
First ordr of business, fire cerrato and hire true GM. Since we are assuming that I am GM, I will pick the coach. But the new GM should have sole custody of who the new coach is.
Coach – Shannahan. I know exactly what it would take to get him to. And the answer isn’t money. The answer is a picture of Snydr tied up in a corner with nothing but a pen so all you have to do is put the checkbook and front of him and he signs it. He should also have a ball gag in his mouth like the one from Pulp Fiction.
Draft – 1st – Right Guard! Left Tackle. There is no position on the line more important than that spot and I am assuming Samuels will retire.
2nd – Right Guard. This is our biggest need. Jones is settling in nicely but may not be a starter. We need a few more games to see that. Beyond that, RG is failing us consistently and Randy Thomas getting healthy isn’t the answer.
3rd – Center – Rabach is good but he’s getting old. We have to be ready for him to be done in about 2 years.
4 – RB
5th – Right tackle
7th – LB
As for free agents. We sign Campbell. We need a QB but we don’t need one this year. At the very least, you tender an offer enough to force a team to give you a draft pick for him. Best case scenario, you get a draft pick. Worst case scenario, you have Campbell back for $3.5M.
Sign a CB in the FA market.
No trades. We need to keep drafting!
again, ur the GM
fire cerrato and hire true GM
Cerratos been fired, You are in Charge!!!
:)
Pommylee
I think
he’s admitting that he’s nowhere near qualified to be GM.
Which gives him something in common with Vinny Cerrato.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Nice work, PommyLee
Here are my comments:
Coach- I think I keep Zorn, however I keep Zorn under one Proviso, he hires a competent OC, which leads to my next pick.
OC- Keep the Sherms; figure out who to put in charge and go to a normal play calling scenario.
DC- Jerry Gray – Can go with this.
Special Teams Coach – Danny Smith? Yes, keep him.
QB- I keep Jason, hes clearly a good leader and a high character guy and thats what we need right now in that locker room, HOWEVER I also employ a top level sport pyshologist and get him to spend hours with Jason mentally rehearsing late game situations and force him to watch hours of tape of well run two minute drills, also I would ask Zorn to incorporate some 2 minute stuff into the middle of quarters in the pre-season to ensure Jason is sharp in this area of the game. YES! to all
1st Rd Pick – This Okung guy – yes
2nd Rd Pick – I would go O-Tackle again, although there is an argument for going Secondary if there is a highly rated player who has fallen out of the first round.
Picks 3-7 – 3rd round – one more lineman then RB in the 4th. Best FS and/or OLB available. Finally, one more lineman.
FA- I beleive a good tackle is available from the Chargers so if we could get him take him, my understanding is he is only 26 or something (thanks again to the good citizens of HH for this info) However even if we do get this guy it does not change my draft strategy, O-Line is hit and miss in the lower rounds, plus its a high injury area so depth is essential. OK with this, but am still concerned about our Secondary.
TRADES- If we can get 3rd or 4th rd picks for Portis, ARE or Cartwright we jump all over it and use them picks to trade up into the 2nd Rd again if possible and get another highly rated O-Lineman. Don’t forget – C. Rogers is gone.
Personally I keep Cooley, but if someone was desperate and offered a 2nd and a 3rd you would have to seriously consider it, like really really massively consider it, but I doubt you would get that offer. I still want to see Cooley, Davis and Yoder on the field with DT at wideout.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
GM
Head Coach:
Any Butt Kicker will do. Is Shottenheimer available?
Offensive Coordinator:
Sherm Lewis – he has turned this offense around with very little talent to work with over the past 5 weeks.
Defensive Coordinator:
Anybody from the Buddy Ryan philosophy on defense. We need an aggressive DC to get the most out of our defensive talent.
QB: Keep Jason Campbell. He has shown me enough this season to be my franchise QB. After a decade of searching for QBs and wasting draft picks on QBs it’s time to address other positions. Pay the man whatever it takes to keep him here.
RB: Release or Deal Portis and sign Darren Sproles (FA) to split time with Ladell Betts next season. Let the others fight it out for 3rd spot.
WR: Cut or deal Santana. Cut or deal Randle El. Go with Thomas, Kelly, and Marko Mitchell as the starters.
TE: Keep both Cooley and Fred Davis and run more two TE sets next season. Put Fred Davis in motion and create mismatches. It’s nice to have two good TEs, and we probably wouldn’t get much for Cooley if we tried to deal him. Fred Davis has the work ethic (shown by his improved blocking and catching to be a franchise player for us).
DRAFT:
1st round: OT: Okung or the guy from Iowa who is projected in first round. If we can trade up and get both of them even better.
2nd-7th Rounds: Take the best player available that plays any of the following positions (OT, C, G, CB, LB).
Coach Bring Zorn back. Zorn is very intelligent, excels at player development and his offensive scheme is well thought-out and balanced. With Sherm Lewis focusing on playcalling during the week, we’ve see how being consistent has helped strengthen the offense. The last thing we need is to restart with a new scheme and plan under a new head coach (again)
Offensive Co-Ordinator – Not sure. I could see the Sherms returning or Snyder and Zorn finding someone new to handle both the Sherm’s jobs.
Defensive Co-Ordinator – Blache – Consistently in the top 10 defenses in the league. Not the turnovers we’d necessarily want, but the development of Orakpo/Jarmon will help that by limiting a QBs decision-making time.
QB – Jason Campbell resigned to a high tender.
Two scenarios for the draft:
1. Russell Okung is there. We draft him and Jonathon Dwyer, RB from from GT in the 2nd. Okung is top Olineman in the draft, so that pick is obvious. Dwyer is an everydown back who’s hard to take down and has shown a strong burst through holes into the secondary. Very similar to Clinton Portis, who he will mentor under for the next year or two.
2. Okung is taken. In this case, I say we draft Eric Berry. The best defensive player in the draft, and the closest thing to ST21 this decade. Release Doughty, move Landry to SS. Draft Jason Fox, smart OT from the U in the second (or similiar OT).
OG, OLB in the 4th.
No trades.
Berry is probably going to go before Okung. I think we should trade down in the draft. There are a ton of good OT in the 1st and 2nd rounds of this draft. Move back in the 1st round and maybe recoup a 3rd pick.
Probably?
Based on a mock draft you saw? He’s still a safety and ST was the highest safety taken ever at 5th overall. With teams looking to trade up for a QB (maybe 3 in the top 10), I think Okung, Berry, or both are there at our pick (I’m guessing 7th or 8th)
I’m not going off a mock draft, I’m just thinking of teams that will have worse records and who they would pick.
Cleveland (QB)
Detroit (DLine)
Bucs (DLine)
Rams (QB)
Then I just don’t see Berry making it past Kansas City and potentially Oakland to drop to us.
I think we can agree that there’s no way of predicting what Oakland will do.
I could see Kansas City picking him to line up beside Mike Brown, but they have a few holes that they would want to address and could go a few routes. With all the attention (and needs) towards QBs this year, I could see them trading down. I think this year will have more trades in and out of the top 15, compared to last year.
But most importantly is that the bowl games and combine haven’t gone by yet. Draft boards will be completely different in three months.
WOW
If we could make this board a GM by committee, then I could see the Redksins becoming a pretty damn good team. Unfortunately it’s vinny/danny show rather than the HogsHaven board!
I don’t think this will happen after yesterday. But what if Kubiak is axed. Get Shanahan and put Kubiak at OC/QB Coach?
As far as the defense goes, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
Wrong linemen.
We don’t have the right personnel to run Shanahan/Kubiak’s offensive scheme.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Coach: Holmgren is out because he wants to be GM and that’s my job! Too late sucker. I’d talk to Shanahan, Gruden, Cowher and Fisher (ok, I know I’m dreaming but the worst he can say is no). I’d also talk to Mike Mularkey (OC at Atlanta), Joe Philbin (OC at GB), Gary Kubiak (HC at Houston), and Mike Heimerdinger (OC at Tennessee). I particularly like what Heimerdinger has done because I don’t really think thay have that much talent but he gets the most mileage out of what he has.
My first choice would be Fisher, then Cowher, then Shanahan, then Kubiak, then Heimerdinger and if none of them will work for Snyder then I’d keep Zorn and hire Heimerdinger for OC.
OC: Time to get someone who has proven themselves and my choice is Heimerdinger, the OC from the Titans. I think JC has at least as much potential as Vince Young and Heimerdinger will bring it out!
DC- Mike Pettine (DC for the NY Jets). They are good at limiting scoring AND they create turnovers and attack on defense!
Special Teams Coach – Danny Smith as he seems to be doing a good job.
QB- I keep Jason, because I think he can be really good with a decent OL and I’m not that convinced by the “blue chip” QBs available in the draft. Can you say heath Shuler or worse…Ryan Leaf? don’t want to get ripped off by signing the next big bust. I’d rather draft a QB every single year in the mid to later rounds than sign 1 guy who totally messes up the salary cap.
1st Rd Pick – Okung and I think we have a good shot at this. Suh is a monster so somebody is going to take him very early but if he’s there for our pick I’d take him. Can you see a Haynesworth – Suh tandem?
2nd Rd Pick – OT, OG or FS depending on which is the best player. I’d rather have a stud OG than a mediocre OT and we obviously need a little help at FS too so Landry can go back to SS.
Picks 3-7 I’d pick up another OL, 1-2 DBs (we could use a CB as well as a FS), an RB, and a LB or DL (best player available).
FA- I’d try to sign the OT (mentioned on these forums) from the Chargers but I wouldn’t break the cap for him.
TRADES: Lots of action here because we have too many under performing players(compared to their salaries) and because it’s an uncapped year we need to do some cleaning. I’d trade Portis for anything – he’s done IMO so anything is better than nothing. Betts is also gone. Todd Collins is gone so we can get another young QB to look at. I’d also trade ARE during the uncapped year just to get away from his ridiculous contract. He’s had plenty of time to live up to that price tag and it hasn’t worked so out you go. I’d keep Cartwright because he fills several holes and that makes managing the roster easier. I’d keep Cooley unless someone offered a 1st round (and that’s not going to happen) because I want to see some 2 TE sets. I’d also keep McIntosh – he’s proven himself.
My Shot...
Good comments all around guys. I don’t post very often, but I read HH daily and am really impressed with some of the ideas floated around in the site. Here we go…
Coach—I know everyone is all about the big name, and if we go that route, I would be all about Shanahan. However, what about an under the radar name such as Leslie Frazier, current DC for the Vikings? I really like what he’s done in Minnesota and I think he would require accountability from our guys.
OC—I love the Heimerdinger idea, I would also consider Charlie Weis. I know, he was horrible at Notre Dame, but he is proven in the NFL and I think he could inject some mre life into the offense.
DC—Blache or Gray. This defense is good, I’d love a little more aggression, but it gives us a chance every game.
ST—Smith has our ST in great shape, no need to fix what isn’t broken.
QB—I have always been a fan of Campbell (mostly unaffected by performance) but I really like what he’s done this year.
1st round—Okung or the next best OT
2nd Round—Best guard or someone like Dwyer or Spiller
4th-7th round—Get younger on the o-line, especially a C we can mold.
FA—Obviously, McNeil would be awesome. I like any wr that can catch 21 passes in a game, but Marshall would be the typical Snyder catch, so I might stay away out of principle. Any CB that is remotely decent would be cool as well
Current roster—Resign Mcintosh. Please. Also, resign Levi, cut Randle El, get Portis motivated somehow (I would cut him with no CBA in place to take advantage of the ability to reform our cap numbers.
Wish I'd thought of this
OC—I love the Heimerdinger idea, I would also consider Charlie Weis. I know, he was horrible at Notre Dame, but he is proven in the NFL and I think he could inject some mre life into the offense.
Exactly, his stock will be down ofter the ND fiasco, but that should not take away from the fact he was a terrific NFL OC and as we are always told College and the Pros are very different, So yeah, I think I go Weiss, the good thing is he also has the big ego to tell Snyder to get out of the film room or wherever he inappropriatly pops his head at Ashburn
Pommylee
Plus,
in the Clausen interview, Vinny basically revealed that he’s got a hardon for Weis.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
isn't that reason NOT to go with Weiss?
Vinny basically revealed that he’s got a hardon for Weis.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
Yes.
But it also makes it more likely that it’ll actually happen.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Aaaahhh!!! Pommy, no!! Get out of the sun
before it’s too late!!
No Charlie Weiss!! The guy is insufferable and his only creds come from when he was a small part (for a fat man) of a large organization that was successful for many more reasons than his contributions. Can you imagine a press conference with CW, Snyder and Cerrato??? They’d be lucky not to have the Washington Monument thrown at them vice a shoe or statuette. The only thing I give Weiss was his ability to bring down the Notre Dame program to new lows. The guy is the poster child for bulimia fans. I vomit in his general direction.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
LOL
Well it is hot in Australia!!
Fair enough, like I said, I’m not that knowledgeable about the OC side of things, Like art I just know a bad painting when I see one, and Zorn as OC is one terrible painting
I just thought for all his insufferableness (is that even a word) he was genuinly regarded as an Offensive Innovator and even at ND his Offenses were prolific
Pommylee
Even so....
it’s just not worth it. Trust me. It’s bad enough that Snyderato are an embarrassment to the human species, Weiss is that and a ton more. (or tonne if you prefer)
Besides – not that it will happen – but I think most of us HH folks, being the brilliant sort we are, agree that minimal change is what is needed. Keep Zorn and Jason, establish the Sherms as the OC guys (whatever), build the O-line and start building depth at key positions for the future (back-up QB for Jason, FS, LBs, stud RB late rounder, etc.)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Briliant!!
I dont know what bits I found funnier
embarrassment to the human species
but I think most of us HH folks, being the brilliant sort we are
ton more. (or tonne if you prefer)
(Very clever)
Pommylee
Zorn stays as HC for one year, Sherms remain as OCs, and Joe Bugle gets a big raise. Earnest Byner(Titans RB coach) is to be poached from them at whatever cost is necessary to bring him in as RB coach. Blache returns as DC if he doesn’t retire, and Jerry Grey is groomed to replace him once blache’s age catches up with him.
Carter is to be traded to a needy team for a 3rd-6th rounder
All RFA’s are tendered.
Campbell is to be resigned to a contract for about 2 years with significant bonuses for playoff apperances and probowl appearances, and a team option for 2 more years.
Levi Gets another year
Draft Day:
Round One: Stud Right Tackle
Round Two(Trade Down 9-15 Picks to grab 4th round pick): Stud Right Guard
Round Three: (Jarmon)
Round Four(1): LB
Round Four(2): RB
Round Five: FS or LB
Round Six:(You know that guy who found Marko Mitchell and Chris Horton? Draft whoever he wants us to take)
Round Seven: Stud Kicker
Nicely done
esp.
(You know that guy who found Marko Mitchell and Chris Horton? Draft whoever he wants us to take)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
+1
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Actually,
why not just take whoever that guy wants us to take in the first 6 rounds too?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
LB in the 4th?
And only picking a FS in round 5? Do you want to keep playing “Let’s give them a TD” Landry at FS next year? We need a FS more than LBs.
Jim Zorn- HC
Sherm Lewis-OC
Greg Blache-DC
Danny Smith-ST
Joe Bugel- some type of recognition for the fantastic job that he has done for us this year
JC-QB
!st rd. Eric Berry if available, if not the Taylor Mays. I think our O-line has improved & the quality of linemen this year is not that great. With a great (Berry) or good (Mays) FS, we can move LL back to his normal position & stop getting torched for those 50 yard TDs
2nd rd. Ciron Black if available or Gabe Carimini
4th rd Best OL available
5th rd RB
6th & 7th Best OL available from SEC
Cut or trade Portis, ARE, Collins
No FAs (we’re broke)
So would
Taylor Mays and LaRon.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
The one problem with drafting a safety, either Berry or Mays,
is that the fans will expect them to play like the OTHER Taylor, and that’s an impossible standard.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
Head Coach..I like Zorn but he doesnt have that Leadership Authority like a Mike Shanahan. Or i did like the Mike Holmgren GM Zorn HC thing but if u can get Shanahan , Russ Grim, or Cower most deffinalty Cower.
OC- is up to the head coach, maybe Sherm Lewis but somebody young and good like a Jason Garrett type.
D- Coordinator : We had a top 2 D when Marvin Lewis was here. A top 3 top 5 D when Greg Williams was here. We need some big name D coach here were on the verge of bein a Great D now with Orakpo and Haynseworth we need somebody Agressive.
Special Teams: Keep our Guy..and keep Gano he’s gotta future i seen him at FSU.
NOTE: Regardless keep Zorn as QB Mentor ( Draft Details) **
1st Round pick: Take either Colt McCoy or Jimmy Clausen which ever falls to us. The last 2 drafts have proven a good young QB can change a team around if he’s taken care of and USED RIGHT. **** MATT RYAN falcons were 3 – 13 then the following year when drafted Matt Ryan they went 11 – 5. they have the same kind of skilled team but our D is way more stout. Take McCoy and KEEP ZORN to tutor. Campbell is AVERAGE but thats all he’ll be he’s had 5 years, he just doesnt show the poise and Leadership to lead this team to a winning season. Todd Collins even did that after not playing in id say EVER! LOL
Round 2: Take a good solid Offensive Tackle to block your new young QB. Let Portis pound the ball FINALLY after having a solid line we’ll see him bust MAybe 2,000 atleast yet another 15000 baby…if we could only throw the ball and people didnt know we were running and putting 8 ppl in the box even when we throw CAUGH CAUGH CAMPBELLL!!!!!!!! Put portis on the colts he might have 3,000 yards lol.
Next 2nd or maybe 3rd: Maybe u can trade Mr. Fred Davis who has come on strong the last few games while Cooler’s been out. WHYYY WOULD U TRADE CHRIS COOLEY. best young player on the team. but anyways. maybe u can get a 2nd or 3rd round pick out of Davis. a place like Carolina would suit him very well….IF SO. then maybe CJ Spiller RB Clemson falls to us, reminds me a lot of a young portis. if not then TOBY GERHART would be a nice change of pace!
4th round pick: Take a Center.. a pick this late u might as well take a lineman, we could use some fresh legs at center anways.
5th round: we need a Brandon Spikes type of LB maybe in 2011on a 1st round pick so we can put Orakpo at DE. but id take on here in the 5th, maybe you’ll get a sleeper.
Free Agency: A REDSKINS FAN’S BEST FRIEND: I’d sign that Offensive Tackle from the Chargers you were talkin about we need an O- Line especially if u could get a good young pro bowler. That would make drafting your new QB that much sweeter. I also heard that Anquan Boldin could be available. I’d try to pick him up. we could use a Big Physical reciever and he’s underated.
Vinny? Is that you, Vinny?
My god we are so screwed. So if you want to blow it up…it’s Danny’s little suicide bomb package you just delivered.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I'd say Dwyer is more similar to Portis
Than Spiller. Obviously just my observations, but he’s more of a strong, everydown back. Spiller = Reggie Bush.
DO NOT WANT
Who is blocking? Are you figuring another year out of Randy “Temp” Thomas? How can you assume that you’ll get the SD OT? In addition to the facts that (a) he might not want to come here; (b) SD might want him back; © someone else with deep pockets might want him; or (d) he might get designated a franchise player, in which case you CAN’T get him, I can’t help but notice that you don’t even know the guy’s name. This smacks of a Steve Spurrier approach to putting a team together.
Fail.
I LOL'd.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
Fair Enough :-)
FWIW, I clear out Vinnie and put a gag order on Danny. Then I sort through the league for top talent evaluators and pay THEM top dollar to help me make decisions about how I spend the rest of Danny’s Dollars.
Head Coach: First choice: Cowher. If Fisher is available, he’s my second choice, Grimm my 3rd.
Coordinators: I would be open to retaining Sherman Lewis or Sherman Smith as OC (for continuity) Jerry Gray as DC and Danny Smith as ST guy, but the bottom line is I want someone the coach feels comfortable working with. If the Head Coach has his guys, go get them!
Gone: Portis, and ARE for sure. Probably Betts and Smoot as well. Possibly Griffin.
QB: Campbell. You’re just not going to get anyone better in the near term, and possibly not in the longer term.
FA: Re-sign Levi Jones to keep LT warm for a couple of years while you develop
1st Rd: An offensive tackle to groom at RT while getting ready for LT.
2nd Rd: Best impact defender available from DT/LB/CB.
3rd Rd: Gone for the Jarmon pick.
4th-7th Rd: in order, an interior lineman, RB and another defender.
Tender Rogers; he can hold down a CB position if no one takes him, but I’ll happily take a draft pick if someone thinks they can make his hands sticky.
FA: Re-sign Hunter the Punter/RB/QB. Go after Vince Woolfork HARD. Imagine a defensive front of Carter/Haynesworth/Woolfork/Arakpo, with Jarmon being developed.
If Gano does all right, live with him – but I wouldn’t mind picking up Shayne Graham of the Bengels to do my PK. At OG I’d try to get Stephen Neal of the Patroits, or possibly one of Denver’s OG (Kuper or Hochstein), both of whom are RFA’s. I’d make a run at LB Dansby of the Cardinals, too.
now that you have a plan
I like it (it’s not too different from my own). Although in mine I listed more potential HCs because I don’t think Cowher or Fisher would take this job. I’d love to see Grimm back with the Redskins.
I don’t think the entire OL can be rebuilt in 1 year so keeping Levi Jones is important.
Ironically I agreed all along with your idea of not drafting a 1st round QB (or at all).
I think
MOST ’Skins fans agree with the idea of not drafting a 1st round QB.
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 17, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
My turn
Coach: Jim Zorn, I never jumped off this. I hated losing Greg Williams. When Zorn came on I was like wtf, we won some games, He seemed atune to what the team needed and he was funny. I liked him I was loyal to him, I saw the retardation of Vinny Cerratto and Dan Snyder behind that second half breakdown. At the Start of this season we ruled out the exact same team, plus A Haynes and Orakpo. We got the exact same results plus a pass rush. Zorn’s teams in my opnion have not lacked desire if they have sometimes lacked fire, have moved the ball, and generally been in a place to win games. I like the idea of building a real identity, change every year doesn’t work why are we expecting it to work this time.
O Coordinator: What Zorn wants it should be his say.
D Coordinator: Bring in the Head Coach from TCU. Or someone other than Blache. I thikn the defense has talent. But I hate how we don’t blitz. I also don’t think this team stops key drives and I’d like to see the turnovers increase.
Special Teams: Gano should have been here day 1. Suisham doesn’t miss random FGs, but he’s terrible on kickoff, he can’t kick onsides, and he’s clearly not clutch.
GM: Mike Holmgrem. Snyder tends to think throwing as many names at a situation works. He did this sort of with the Al Saunders hire I could see him keeping Vinny on board who is honestly solid in the first round but hiring Holmgrem to handle most of the personel. Cerratto is not an okay GM, Fred Davis having some good games does not justify the terrible decisions that will hold this franchise back from contention for this next decade. Orakpo at LB is just the most recent example of his complete incompetence. He can not even find a 3rd LB so we can move our beast DE onto the line. I hate that crap and thats what he does regularly.
QB – Jimmy Clausen. Show me a game Campbell puts this team on his back and I’ll call him a real QB. Never going to happen he’s not assertive enough to be an NFL QB.
1st round – Jimmy Clausen, QB
1st round – trade Jason Campbell for a first – Brandon Spikes, SLB
2nd Round – OT Selvish Capers
3rd Round – Trade a pick or something for it – OG Brandon Carter
4th Round – Noel Devine RB
5th Round – Trevor Ivey , DT Maryland
7th Round – Ed Wang OT VT
Offseason – 1. sign a starting FS and move Landry permanently to SS. Leave Horton at SS.
2. Don’t trade Cooley. I like having 2 good TEs especially with Clausen around it’d help him develop.
3. Sign a LB for depth.
4. Don’t sign big name free agents. Go with Portis and Ganther and Devine at RB. Unless there is a solid RB in FA replace either Ganther or Portis with him.
5. Oline will look like
LT: Selvish Capers
LG: Dockery
C Edwin Williams
RG: Brandon Carter
RT: Mike Williams
why in the hell
would you out mike williams at RT when A) he has been playing RG and doing a pretty good job at it? B) If we were to draft a young OT and reshuffle our starting line, why wouldnt you havelevi jones in there? am I the only one that realizes that since Jones was inserted into the starting line up and this current version of the O-lone has been establised, that the redskins are blocking and protecting better? Edwin williams will not be starting at any position on the O-line next year. He was given an opportunity to start one game this year…and that was that. and lastly you say <Show me a game Campbell puts this team on his back and I’ll call him a real QB. Never going to happen he’s not assertive enough to be an NFL QB.
> you want to hand our offense that is now starting to get things rolling to a unproven, ROOKIE QB who coincidently has done NOTHING in the NFL??? Yeah, great plan.
by CuseSkinsfan1 on Dec 15, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe you wanna keep CP....
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
by DbacksSkins on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
I made a point I would like your thoughts on above
My reasoning for going Stanford Guard in the 4th Rd is that they opened up holes for Gerhardt
BUT THE REAL POINT WAS
They may not bench 400lbs or run 4.5 40’s but they are clearly football players, and thats what the Steelers seem to do, draft players off game tape, not weight room performances, whereas Al Davis drafts purely off 40 times it appears at times and look who is in better shape
Is this a thing that others are concerned about, this obsession with 40 times and broad jumps and other things that are in a non football environment and not really related to football exactly,
yes I know the NFL you need great athletes but is there also not room for pure footballers who can anticipate, and feel the game rather than Athletes you train how to play football but cant even catch (hello Carlos Rogers)
Pommylee
Race for CJ Spiller
Coach- Mike Shannahan, you cant mess this up bring in a guy whos proven and can keep it movin through tough times. also if theres anyone who can breath life into our running game it’ll be Mike.
Offensive Co-Ordinator- Charlie wheis , yes i know he was horrible at Notre Dame but Shannahan will be running the offense anyway and Weis is a great football mind capable of being successful in the Nfl
Defensive Co-Ordinator- the Defensive Coodinater for the Jets or Someone who runs the 3-4. its time to make the switch our defense is good, now its time to be great. get someone who knows that Laron Landry should be playing Strong Safety
Special Teams Coach- No need to Change this it is solid
QB- Jason Cambell- behind a good offensive line he will be a much better quaterback
Coach- Mike Shannahan, you can’t mess this up bring in a guy whose proven and can keep it movin through tough times. Also if there’s anyone who can breathe life into our running game it’ll be Mike.
Offensive Co-Ordinator- Charlie Weis, yes I know he was wasn’t at Notre Dame but Shannahan will be running the offense anyway and Weis is a great football mind capable of being successful in the NFL
Defensive Co-Ordinator- the Defensive Coordinator for the Jets or Someone who runs the 3-4. It’s time to make the switch our defense is good, now it’s time to be great. Get someone who knows that Laron Landry should be playing Strong Safety. Or if Eric mangini gets fired he wouldn’t be a bad pick up. I say this because generally head coaches who are fired generally make good Coodinators (Mike Nolan, Cam Camron, and practically half the coordinators in the NFL)
Special Teams Coach- Danny Smith, no need to change, this part of our team is solid
QB- Jason Cambell- behind a good offensive line he will be a much better quarterback
Resign Levi Jones, and Rocky McIntosh
(3rd and 6th picks are gone due to Jarmon and Jason Taylor)
Release- Antwan Randel El and Ladell Betts and rock Cartwright (this one pains me because he is a high character guy that works hard but it would be nice to see some kickoff returns every now and then and he has proved that he doesn’t have the speed to do that, the only way I would keep him is if he converted to fullback, again)
FA- Brandon Marshall- yes this is the typical redskin move but don’t let a player of this caliber pass by without you at least trying to get him, also with Mike Shannahan as the head coach it wouldn’t be a bad pick up.
Logan Mankins RG Helps to sure up the line
Marcus McNeil- another lineman would help to sure up the run game
1st round- depending on what lineman is available I say we pick up the best one however if it happens that the best 2 lineman are gone by the time we pick I say we trade down acquire a first and 3rd and pick up CJ spiller (Clemson) who should be a highly sought after running back. He should clock in around a 4.3 and seeing what Chris Johnson is doing this year a lot of teams could use a speed back in their game plan.
2nd round – Ciron Black (LSU) – He is the 6th rated tackle and depending on his combine should be available for the redskins to pick up in the second round.
Rounds 4-7 – get a free safety a guard and a Linebacker and a running back
No trades for players-
New GM
I have to say I agree with thoroughly agree with keeping Campbell. For one thing, there’s no one better out there, for the other, he has done a much better job than most folks give him credit for—somebody give me his rating over the last five games. At least half of his interceptions are the results of receivers botching a catch and knocking the ball up in the air for a “can of corn” for a lucky defender. The guy has a great arm, moves really well, and is loaded with character—KEEP HIM. As for Zorn, I agree with mixed emotions. I like the guy and this franchise has an all too familiar trend of sacking a guy too quickly. Think about the Vikings patience with their coach. The team is showing promise (again!). Unless we can get Cower or Gruden—keep him. OC—obvious choice to me is Charlie Weis. Draft Picks—OL-OL-OL-OL —get the idea? The real problem is the GM. Vinny is too close with Snyder, but I hope Snyder can be enough of a business man to forego friendship and get a real football guy. A decent GM would have never let the O-Line fall into this level of disrepair or have paid $40 million up front for Albert Hayensworth. He’s the next Deon.
He sings, too?
Albert Hayensworth. He’s the next Deon
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
But he likes Canadian ..............
BACON (thudump .. thudump /.drum sound )
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 15, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
::rimshot::
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
You sure it wasn't ham?
"The existence of flamethrowers is proof that someone, somewhere, said to himself, 'I want to set those people over there on fire, but I don't feel like walking over there to do it.'"
doubt it
Big Al likes his ham with a little more kick.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
What have I done ?? Started a running gag ... LOL
Wide right good one…
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 16, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
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