Live Game Thread: Redskins @ Raiders
Washington Redskins at Oakland Raiders, Dec 13, 2009 4:05 PM EST
The Washington Snyders head to Oakland. Hopefully Dan Snyder takes some lessons from the mistakes made in the past 10 years by Oakland. Mainly, a $37 million guaranteed contract to a QB is a very high risk bet. Especially since the pieces are not in place in Washington to protect him.
For the first time I am going to make a prediction this game. I think the Redskins win by 2 touchdowns.
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what's up chumps?
come over to www.csnwashington.com and help me rock Comcast’s chat. Just open a second window and give me some love. We have to show that Hogs Haven travels well.
is there a delay in posting there?
ie – do you have to approve each comment?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
ah..
the delay of game was b/c Campbell was down for like 15 secs.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
and 2 of the first three picks will be a new qb and rb
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions
I'm waiting on Gradkowski to make a really bad throw..
Joe Bugel hopefully is tearing the Oline a new one
Even if no punches are landed
I would pay to see that fight.
That has slap-fight written all over it
I sent in our Orakpo-phobia shirt to Matt Terl to get him to have Orakpo take a picture in it
he said he’d ask for me. fingers crossed.
Oakland has B-Raknophobia!
Let the Halo power flow...mofo!
by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:28 PM EST reply actions
Zorn's mind is on his off season plans for the next few years
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
two 3 and outs
and Campbell is getting killed
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's hit or miss Landry once again showing up
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Let's get Russell as a back up
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Fuckin' yes, down with Dallas!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions
WoW chris johnson is fun to watch…he was drafted in the 20s of the first round- 24th i think
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 4:44 PM EST reply actions
Yeah
I didn’t think it was necessary for them to call a foul on that. People dance in the end zone all the time.
F. D. for a T. D.!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Jason Campbell is our best option at QB next season...
I can’t wait to write about this week and get killed by you guys
why would we kill you?
He is…only FA is Gradkowski. I’d rather have continuity and JC
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
About the rest of Hogs Haven (besides LJP) but I won’t be killing you based on that statement.
Horrible special teams effort
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions
Yea, McFadden is working over LL
Blache will adjust somehow
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Landry, oh Landry.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:49 PM EST reply actions
Landry
Can’t cover a WR because they run routes too well, so we’ll put him on a rb who can’t … oh wait nevermind
Ouch, where's our top-rated D?
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions
I disagree wholeheartedly, with an inept offense many games can't be won.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Yea but when it came down to it
The D gave up a scoring drive at the worst possible time. Top Rated Defenses shut the door all game long.
Big Plays in the passing game and running game on a regular basis does not a top rated defense make
True, champoinship teams play every down and quarter as if it's their last.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
Our 2 best defensive players are on the bench…we gotta remember that.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
yea, good point
Most expensive players I should say! ha.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
i love moss…. he ALWAYS calls for the interference call
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, as if the D.C. sports fan needs any more suffering?
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Gano cano!
3 pointer is good.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently the "D" on both sides have resigned already
so expect a total shoot-out today.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions
Saw a comment before about Oakland looking fired up
For some insane reason we have had about 4 Oakland games on TV in Australia this year and I can tell you for all the mocking that goes Oaklands way, and as bad as their offence is, some days their D just seems to fly all over the field and smash into everything
Pommylee
Randle El
You suck so friggin’ bad it’s not even funny. Any other time you’d want to fair catch the ball, why not now?
is there another feed somewhere
this epistle thing keeps freezing constantly and for minutes at a time
Pommylee
New Link Pommy
hahahahaha
Cowgirls failed to get TD after trying 4 times inside the 4yd line….lol SD winning 10 – 6
both those links r working for me pommy
thansk MO
I’ll try em now
Just might be different in Australia or something, for example you would not be getting Foxtel Ads so who knows whats happening, but I appreciate your help very very muchly
Pommylee
i have always found these free links spotty
maybe there is a behind the scenes battle going on with the networks
but what do u do if it is ur only option
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
YEAH,
Sean T and Landry, what a tandem.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
i heard Jerry Gray say
that they still don’t trust Kareem enough. LL is better. Not sure how at this point that stmt is still valid
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rogers has no character, at least Landry show passion.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions
i disagree
Kelli Johnson interviewed LL pre-game asking him all these questions and he has this attitude he’ll always keep playing for the hit and thats his style. If thats the case, he has to go back to SS and play up on the line.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
he would but vinny forgot to field a free safety on the 53 man active roster or 5 man practice squad !!!
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
Try this
http://www.atdhe.net/index.html
There’s three different links for the Redskins game. I didn’t look at it, so it may lead you to the links you were already given.
Yes sir!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:32 PM EST reply actions
We'll take it
and hopefully make something of it.
Skills to pay the bills!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:36 PM EST reply actions
TD from FD!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions
Should we move Fred to Wide Out instead once Cooley's back?
or should we see more Gibbs type multi-TE formations?
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions
i think our TEs get open or run their routes more consistently and both have good hands
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions
Oh yeah!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
the ground can't cause the fumble.
I thought it was a catch
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
According to the announcers
The receiver has to maintain possession all the way to the ground, which he did not.
Impressive 1st half, such a suprise.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:50 PM EST reply actions
really is- raiders been playing well despite their record
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions
we'll stick with this thread unless anyone is having probs
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
half time intermission, switching to the Bolts and Cowturds game
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM EST reply actions
thats all I need at work so cant have soudn anyways
where is this "ilemi’ of which you speak
Pommylee
Thomas, making a name for himself in the NFL
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:05 PM EST reply actions
Let's turn Jamarcus into Christmas fruitcake!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:13 PM EST reply actions
maybe its time we started giving mroe credit to Carter and Orakpo
I knwo all year we have been very positive to them , but we have always had the proviso that Big Al was a big part of their success, well no Big Al and B-Rak still ripping it up
Pommylee
B-Rak is a guarantee for the Pro Bowl
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions
Dirty 30...oh yeah!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions
Indeed, a truly massive failure by Danny and Co.
Fire yourself Danny along with Vinny and Zorny; such nicknames!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:21 PM EST reply actions
if we get one of those young qbs in the draft and dont seriously address the line (min 3 new starters), he wont make it past game 5
jc is a lot tougher than anyone the skins are rumored to be considering
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 6:26 PM EST reply actions
I would recommend that Zorny start returning kicks
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions
No QB in thi draft will be JaMarcus Russel.
The Closest will be Clausen, but Locker and Bradford are gonna be good.
Get Oher or Maybin please
Patrick Crayton just got carted off
Removed his face mask and immobilized him. He did give a thumbs up tho
Yeah, any proven college QB under the right tutelage would suceed in the NFl
so let’s fire Zorn and lure Cowheard
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions
we need to defend them the way everyone defends us so successfully- with no threat of a long ball…jam the short game
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions
B-"SMACK" PO
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions
The future is very auspicious for our D-Line, however our secondary needs some re-evaluating
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions
that's harsh man...no one is worse than Oakland
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Al and Dan are upstairs congratulating each other
on what great jobs they are doing as owners
Pommylee
yeah- they are bad…gallery on ir doesnt help
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions
Nice rock and ganther but how many drops would moss like to have
by washfan29 on Dec 13, 2009 6:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
CP would be an ideal back-up
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Likewise, I'm sick of #17...subliminal.
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
His job is to catch it over the middle for the first.
Leave the YAC to Randel El and Moss
Orakpo!!! Jake Locker next year.
Just saw Kelly make a big 3rd down catch
He doesnt do much but what he does seems to be quality from the play by play
is this right
How is he playing
Pommylee
next season
I am just forking out for the NFL/Gamepass internationial feed and I will take my chances with the lousy Aussie internet speeds
Pommylee
Kill'em Kelly
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions
Davis runs the sweetest routes...
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:47 PM EST reply actions
TANAMAN
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:48 PM EST reply actions
Let's see you post a video of a better one.
I’ve seen you dance. You’re like Elaine Benice.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
OCHO CINCO IS AVAILABLE
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
JUSTICE FOR GANTHER AT LAST
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions
Wow...
Ganther has 200 friends/family at the game….didnt realize he’s from there
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 13, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
DIRTYYYY 30
PUTTING THE ICING ON THIS BABY
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions
True, my only fond memeories of that game
as I attended it all by myself
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately, I'm stuck here
watching the Chargers beat the Cowboys, listening to the radio broadcast on my phone. It’s a bit delayed. :-(
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
I think santana REALLY wants a TD, it seems like we’ve been trying to force it his way in the redzone, wish he had gotten in there though
season high
number of times I’ve scared the BEJESUS out of my daughter by screaming
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Pop quiz:
when was the last time we had 30 plus points two games in a row?
Damn
they just showed my pop quiz and answer on tv
We aren't the team we were before the Falcons game.
We are playing like a playoff team, like we were supposed to be.
Orakpo!!! Jake Locker next year.
Radio guys
just compared the Oakland fans to cockroaches scattering when you turn the lights on.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
The look
on Jerrah’s face when SD made the field goal was PRICELESS.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
this has been a very good game for us
and the raiders have a lot to improve on offense
jc should stay- sorry haters
if we could shed some overpaid salaries and replace them with an O line, lb and fs, we could be a really good team
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:07 PM EST reply actions
half of that could have been accomplished without the haynesworth signing- grrr
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:08 PM EST reply actions
Yeah,
but it still sucks and brings peoples morale down slightly, but Lorenzo got our heads back in the game with a sack
one thing i will say about zorn- despite his liabilities, he really has kept this team motivated and playing hard amid the chaos.
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:09 PM EST reply actions
HAHA
Miles Austin just got tackled on the 10 with 14 seconds left in the game to deny tthe Cowgirls a cosmetic score.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
I agree
lotta good it does them though. We used to have the best CB in the league. Didn’t do squat for us either
I'm doing a celebration dance at home now!
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions
HA, BANISH THE THOUGHT
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by HALO N BRIMSTONE on Dec 13, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Gano has a good leg, defense looked above average against J. Russell, offense looked great, and Orakpo is a monster
Also,
we should have known BEFORE signing Suisham that an ex-Cowboy would be epically unclutch, especially late in the season.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
and the raider O line REALLY stinks…6 sacks on 17 drop backs…WoW
the game was over when they lost their QB
JR is horriblle
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
gano looks good….vinny should really be limited to head of scouting or something
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions
lol…agree but did not really think justice would be served so was hopeful something would happen
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think I hate you
why would you say something like that. Unless you mean head of scouting for Anklebiters
Wow....
I just heard ’Rak doing a Dominos commercial on the radio.
Even his VOICE is manly and intimidating.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
After this game
You would have to at least consider him. And should at least be in a tie for defensive ROY.
skins might not win enuff games for orakpo to beat out harvin…plus, he has brett favre on his side in a feel good story
but is is a very good DE !!!
by les boulez bomber on Dec 13, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
I..... yeah, I can't go that far.
I’m gonna cheer my balls off AGAINST the Giants.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
Yeah
I can’t cheer my balls off for anybody in the NFC East, besides the Redskins of course. I like my balls so I can’t do it.
So, yeah. Say what you will about the racquetball partner,
Vinny Cerrato >>> Al Davis
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U2
just HAD to ruin it, didn’t ya?
That’s like saying that Joey Harrington is better than Ryan Leaf. True, but I don’t want either one
Yeah,
but we don’t HAVE Joey Harrington or Ryan Leaf.
We DO have Vinny, and I don’t see him leaving anytime soon. So, I’m gonna take solace in the fact that he isn’t the SHITTIEST general manager in the league.
Even Satan thinks Scott Boras is evil.
Good win today
Good win. I had this as a win even at the height of the revolution, so this was not a surprise. What surprised me was the way we were executing. Of course, Heyer is garbage, but we know that already.
Portis who?

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