Redskins IR list isn't the Worst in the NFL; Cerrato Still Making Mistakes
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 1, 2009 11:36 AM EST
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The Redskins are obviously decimated by injuries, but I couldn't help but think. Is it really just bad luck? Of course not.
I reviewed the Injury reports for all 32 teams, which I included after the jump. The majority of the NFL has between 2-5 players on their IR, while the Redskins are tied with 3 other teams that have 9 shelved. Amazingly, there are 3 teams with more IR injuries, one of which being the UNDEFEATED Saints. So what's the big difference? Cerrato prefers to plug holes with practice squad players while the Saints add veterans.
The Saints have been crushed with secondary injuries, including: Tracy Porter, Jabari Greer, Randall Gay, and Leigh Torrence. With the additions of Mike McKenzie and Chris McAllister the last two weeks, the Saints continue marching on. It helps their offense is #1 in the league, but let's be real. Their defense did an excellent job of shutting down the Pats and the D has had to carry their weight in a couple games (Rams most notably).
So what does this have to do with anything? Well, when the Redskins take on injuries, the Front Office starts nabbing other teams' practice squad, journey men players (usually undrafted free agents). The Saints on the other hand pick up veterans who have played the game and can be productive immediately. Take a look at the Redskins Offensive Line roster from the beginning of THIS year. There are STILL two OL that the Redskins grabbed from other practice squads in December of 2008 when Samuels went down (D'Anthony Batiste and Will Montgomery) . Vinny, this is your idea of building an OLine? I mean, what talent can be left in December of a season from all the teams hitting the practice squad pools?
OK, back to 2009. Levi Jones has been playing well, but I start to think to myself, why wasn't Pete Kendall brought back in? Why not a Jon Runyan on the right side? These practice squad players are going to get Jason Campbell killed and their mistakes (false starts/blown blocks) have cost numerous drives and games.
The argument can be made: "Well, the majority of the Redskins injuries are pro-bowlers: Chris Samuels, Chris Cooley, Randy Thomas, and Clinton Portis."
This argument is ridiculous because as fans we knew it was more likely than not these players wouldn't make it all season (save for Cooley). The fans, who are not the ones at Redskins Park EVERY day evaluating our own talent, knew these players wouldn't make it all season, yet the front office refused to build depth where it was most needed.
Undrafted rookie free agents, not veterans, are now being asked to protect the Quarterback. It's so ass backwards. Mr. Snyder, please do the right thing and give your Executive VP of Football Operations and former ND scout the same fate Charlie Weis just faced.
| Team | Injured Reserve* | Other ** | Total |
| Detroit Lions | 12 | 7 | 19 |
| Tampa Bay Bucs | 11 | 3 | 14 |
| New Orleans Saints | 10 | 9 | 19 |
| Washington Redskins | 9 | 7 | 16 |
| Cleveland Browns | 9 | 5 | 14 |
| Green Bay Packers | 9 | 3 | 12 |
| Baltimore Ravens | 9 | 3 | 12 |
| Carolina Panthers | 8 | 7 | 15 |
| Buffalo Bills | 7 | 8 | 15 |
| Houston Texans | 7 | 2 | 9 |
| Philly Eagles | 5 | 10 | 15 |
| NY Giants | 4 | 5 | 9 |
| Dallas Cowboys | 3 | 4 | 7 |
| TEN Titans | 1 (Punter) | 3 | 4 |
| MIN Vikings | 0 | 2 | 2 |
* IR: Includes IR, Out for Season
**Other: Includes Probable, Questionable, Doubtful, Out Indefinitely
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I'd like to see
the list showing injuries where the player was a starter when he was placed on IR. Its still big when you don’t have a body, but I just feel like this team just can’t get settled because of the injuries to the top lines.
It would look something like this
Starters:
Cooley
Horton y/n?
Samuels
Kendall
Portis – possible IR
Backups:
Jarmon
Hobbs
Brennan
Rinehardt
Eddie Williams
Note: Rinehardt was starting when he got injured.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Bela Logusi? Mohammad Ali?
Yeah, just pick someone. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Horton y/n?
YES! he was actually going to be named the starter again the week he got hurt
SpotieOtieDopalicious
It comes down to
money (can’t get proven vets with our high priced free agents and other salary gaffs) and the ability to evaluate talent. So every fill-in is a blind crap shoot with little likelihood of near term success. Add to that the FFO’s total ignorance of personality, motivational factors (other than money) and organizational fit and well….what did you expect?
Our roster reminds me of the old TV show Upstairs/Downstairs. We have the rich FAs and a few others living upstairs and the rest of the team relegated to 2nd class citizens living downstairs. No wonder we don’t gel.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Money is defintely a factor
But the skins have a little room. Mcalister was signed for $845k for one year. McKenzie’s deal was undisclosed.
I couldn’t find the details on Runyan. No way it’s much.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Dec 1, 2009 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does the salary cap get adjusted
when a player goes to IR? Seems obvious it should, but…?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I meant
does the player’s contract get taken out of the salary cap formula when he goes to IR?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Thanks for the link
I’m real sketchy on salary cap, trades, free agency stuff – as many have probably noticed. Still doesn’t mean JC17 is an accurate passer, though, LETJASONPASS. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
I'm not sure about money being an issue
The $845k is the vet min, but is discounted to a 510k cap hit to encourage vet signings. Plus once the season begins the cap hit is prorated by week for any signing. I don’t know what we are are paying Levi Jones, but think it would be the vet min 845k and discounted to 510k, then prorated for each week he is on the roster. I’m guessing the cap hit is in the 200-300k range, which should not be a major factor. Maybe I’m missing something? We were about 3M under the cap when we released Jansen and Bridges…I’m not sure why we didn’t go after Jones or Runyan then.
I can't believe I'm doing this
I hate even sort of defending Vinny but I think that we have the most key players on IR or out for awhile. There are certain guys where you’re going to have a drop off when they go down and those are the guys for the most part that have been hit.
Haynesworth - out last two games (division games albert!!!) though I think Golston is a fine DT though obviously no Haynesworth
Portis - No one expected him to go all season but betts is a great backup and to loose them both back to back is tough on any team.
Samuels – No excuse for lack of depth here
Thomas – No excuse here either but Rhinehardt looked serviceable until he went to IR too
Cooley – Cooley is Cooley, so you’re never going to get that production but I would consider Davis solid Depth
Horton – I think I actually prefer doughty, either way they’re comparable players
Jarmon – We have depth here. Sad to him go down but i think he’ll be good next year and actually like the pick.
But the majority of us here, I think, did not think we were experiencing a drop-off when Clinton when down because of his underperformance. The secondary guys like Horton and Jarmon weren’t doing very much and the drop-off was more like a plateau in my opinion. Haynesworth hurts but almost every team loses an A-list player or a couple of B+ caliber players and have to make up for it. The indictment on our resident incompetent weasel Cerrato is that he has zero credibility to us for 2 reasons. First, this excuse is wafer thin. Teams play with injuries. Period. Hearing awful GMs and persons of power/stature in the front offices of sports franchises say “the injury bug hit us” is the most cliched crutch in the book. Teams aren’t expected to win because the GM is banking on nobody getting hurt, teams are designed to either win or at least stay entertainingly competitive whatever injuries occur. Injuries are a fact of life. Like Branch Rickey said, luck is the residue of design, and we have no luck, because there is no professional design.
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Dec 1, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
oh and second, Cerrato’s “excuse” is factually untenable because he’s tried to pawn off on us the idea that we were prepared because we signed castoffs like Mike Williams. It’s patently obvious that so long as we have Cerrato as a kingmaker of football decisions for this team, we are going to struggle mightily
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Dec 1, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
except we didnt win even when they were healthy
cerrato is a puppet head with a little leeway
he is not management material nor is the owner
therein lies the real issue
by les boulez bomber on Dec 1, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent point ScottE
“Our roster reminds me of the old TV show Upstairs/Downstairs. We have the rich FAs and a few others living upstairs and the rest of the team relegated to 2nd class citizens living downstairs. No wonder we don’t gel.” Very true
by Grand Tanyon Sturtze on Dec 1, 2009 1:28 PM EST reply actions
Really...
it was just an excuse to use the word “gel.” LOL Thanks for the backup!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Players or System
While the players which go onto IR does matter, at some point it is the system which is in place which provides for the success.
Overpaying Free agents, prevents having a solid group of backups.
Unable to sign Vet FA for backup due to salary cap issues, again overpaying
Inconsistent philosphy on the team, selecting the right players.
4 years of Gibbs, 2 years WCO, etc…
Defense base is 4-3
Offense base should be run first—>Big offensive line, with solid down field passing
-Draft and build the line
-Draft and maintain the Defense
I thought we were doing
the “Pick-up-Sticks” method of team building…with the added assurance that we don’t overlook anyone who has character flaws.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
THE SOLUTION IS A NEW GM. SELL THE TEAM, DAN
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