5 Observations from the Saints/Patriots game as New Orleans visits Washington
by KevinE on Dec 1, 2009 12:05 AM EST
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First and foremost, the Redskins will have Haynesworth back this week, so the only way the Redskins win this game is if Brees gets knocked out early and Brunell comes in. Since that is unlikely:
1.) How is the Redskins' Offensive Line going to stop the Saints front four?
They were wreaking havoc on Tom Brady consistently, even with a 3-man rush. As we all know, the Pats have a much better line than the Redskins. Will Smith has 8.5 sacks, 4 passes defended, 1 INT, and 3 forced fumbles. Yikes.
2.) How many injuries will the Redskins get this week?
The Saints defense hits hard, very hard. Their secondary forced turnovers and laid the thunder with some big hits. You don't think Gregg Williams wants some vengeance? If I were the Redskins' medical staff, I'd have 53 ambulances on the sideline with the engines running.
3.) How do the Redskins put pressure on Brees?
When the Patriots blitzed, Brees efficiently threw quick passes. The Saints WRs are fast and I really question how the Skins secondary can match up against them. The Saints clearly aren't taking any teams lightly, but maybe the Skins can catch the Saints' players still celebrating their victory over the Pats. It's not too likely since the Redskins beat the Saints at Fedex last year.
The Redskins still rank #1 with fewest passing yards allowed per game (170.4), but I don't see that holding up. I said that against Philly too, though, so who knows.
4.) Mike McKenzie looked like a star.
How did so many teams overlook him? The Saints cut him after a broken knee cap last season, but his speed is clearly restored. Great addition for the Saints last week after adding Chris McAlister the week before.
5.) Drew Brees' effort at Fedex Field this Sunday will validate for Dan Snyder he needs to draft a QB.
Ugh. Mr. Snyder...please observe that Drew Brees has only been sacked 13 times this year and only endured 34 QB hits...both 3rd lowest in the NFL. It doesn't matter what QB is back there, they need time.
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We look forward to talking to you all in the days to come!
Beat Dallas!
Look out! Right through! The kick blocked by Steve Gleason! It is scooped and scored by Curtis DeLoatch! Touchdown, New Orleans!
by Joseph William Stern on Dec 1, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Should be fun
To be the best, you’ve got to beat the best. Only one team has an opportunity to do that this Sunday :-)
by d_c_guy on Dec 1, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin E. comment # 5 was on the money .........
Drew Brees has a good O- line and fast receivers that break tackles and get YARDS AFTER THE CATCH.
For all of you Campbell haters how did TOM BRADY look with just a little pressue on him ?? He looked like a deer in the headlights rushing throws, overthrowing receivers. Wow, isn’t that amazing sounds like the same thing you guys have said about Campbell most of the season. Just imagine what Tom Brady would look like behind our OFFENSIVE LINE he would not last long.. He was not even taking a beating like JC 17 normally does.
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 1, 2009 4:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Both points-Valid
With the current line and situation Jason is not the right quarterback
Upgrade the line and keep Jason
or
Draft/Sign the big name QB who can perform better without an upgraded line
It starts with the line play, it has always…the Redskins need to focus on drafting a line and keeping Campbell for at least 1 more year.
by dr WNC on Dec 1, 2009 8:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft the big name quarterback who can perform better without an upgraded line ???
DR WNC you guys know that I am very seldom speecheless but ths comment right here…. WOW. Did you read this before you posted it. Hey Doc do you see that BUTTON DOWN AT THE BOTTON ?? The one that says [PREVIEW} !! LOL I can not stop laughing this is hillarious.
Ok let me get this right we are supposed to DRAFT a BIG NAME (fresh out of college) QB.who can perform better than JC 17 without upgrading the OFFENSIVE LINE ???? LOL .. LOL…LOL hold on I will be right back …. ……….. Ok I am back I laughed so hard I almost WET MY PANTS !!!!
This is Hysterical … (still laughing) ….. now doing the kick around the floor in a circle thing
( Like The Three Stooges ) LOL DOC you’re great funny guy !! Whew, all that laughing was some workout !!!
by LETJASONPASS on Dec 4, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck Redskins
But I hope you wont look for a let down by the Saints.
The last time we won a big game in the dome was against the Cowboys we completely destroyed them in 2006 and the next week we lost to the Redskins.
So I believe the Saints will be focused on you.
Not to mention the Greg Williams factor
by mississippisaintsfan on Dec 1, 2009 7:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
We're not looking for a letdown
We’re looking for a football game. Y’all got game? Certainly did last night, a very impressive display at home in the dome. OK, bring that. We’ll see what happens.
by d_c_guy on Dec 1, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So overall....we're screwed!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 8:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
They looked like a machine
It was unbelievable watching that team last night. There always seemed to be 2 or 3 WR’s open every play. And you know they are looking at the tape and seeing all the long bombs we give up.
We have to run the ball and keep it out of Brees’s hands. That has to be the only way to get it done. Alright Zorn/Smith/Lewis, find a way to make it work.
by monk81 on Dec 1, 2009 8:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
old school
it’s going to be an old school beat down for us because now we look like the “Aints” of yesteryear when we find a way to lose.
by aFan4Life on Dec 1, 2009 8:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dear Lord
Don’t let them hang 50 on us. Amen.
All kidding aside, the Saints will either put half a hundred on us or we will find a way to win. A good way to beat this team would be for Big Al belly-flop Drew Brees—that would be worth a 15 yd. penalty, if you ask me.
by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 9:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or Zorn finds a way for us to lose in the last 5 mins
I’m predicting he calls timeout accidently icing our own kicker.
by KevinE on Dec 1, 2009 10:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
As long as he doesn't call 2 consecutively
Ooops. Ohhhh, Joe.
by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
take solace in the fact
that at least this week we wont be close enough at any stage for Zorn to lose the game for us….Vinny lost this game for us over the last 2 draft weekends
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game has some interesting implications for the organization's future
We will know unequivocally how good we are. I did not see a weakness at any position in the NO offense or defense. If we get shellacked, that would pretty much dispel any notion that Vinny gave us a playoff caliber team and it might revive the Revolution. If we are able to put a pass rush on, we will know that our D-Line has the potential to be one of the best in the league. We will know how good or bad our secondary can be. We are screwed if by some chance the O-line holds off their pass rush – and you know that Greg Williams is going to bring high heat. If so, there goes at least one of our potential O-line draft picks. We will get another opportunity to see what JC17 is made of and whether our new WRs/TE are really ready to compete at a high level.
How well we do in these categories will likely determine:
If the FFO is going to go all out for a high profile QB,
If they are going to draft any/multiple linemen
If they are going to draft or rape the FA market for a RB, CB, and/or MLB
It also may spell the end of Vinny if we get totally destroyed, which is totally bittersweet, but perhaps necessary to endure for the sake of the team’s future.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 10:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
this is the dilemma I find myself in constantly
I love when the Redskins win, but there was nothing more upsetting than cerrato going to the cameras as soon as we won against the Broncos. He couldn’t get a mic in front of his face fast enough. He told everyone how he was right and these guys just had to play together and would gel. Well, that has been put to bed the last two weeks and he is no where to be seen. So, a win would get him back in front of the cameras telling everybody how smart he is. Whereas a loss would keep putting nails in his coffin (which nobody believes will happen. And there is nobody more willing to believe in one win as to how great we can be than snyder. All we have to do is win this week and cerrato will be in snyder’s ear telling him how right he was all along and all we need is one or two players and we are going to the Super Bowl.
I’ll never rot against the Redskins. It’s just not in my DNA. But I see a value in losing right now.
by monk81 on Dec 1, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exact same situation
I was at the game against the Broncos and I was screaming as loud as anybody when we won. However I’m with you in that I feel the only thing that has a chance at shaking up the front office is a season that is an unmitigated disaster. And by “unmitigated disaster” I mean severe as possible beyond what we’ve already seen. If we beat the Raiders and manage to upset Dallas or NY (not something I’d put money on but also not a crazy prediction IMO) and somehow claw up to 5 wins I’m not convinced it would be bad enough for Vinny to be canned. If Danny is convinced that there is even the tiniest bit of redeeming value in the current mess then I’m afraid the only changes that will be made are going to be the wrong ones.
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 1, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They do have a knack for that
he only changes that will be made are going to be the wrong ones.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your observation ....
You seem a bit nervous, maybe a little scared. Well you should be. The Saints are coming. What you saw last night on MNF was amazing and it is coming to your house. We may not hang 50 on you (CarverM) but we will beat you. This team is on a mission. I actually like the Skins, I’m just sorry the NFC East is on the schedule this year. You can expect Greg Williams to bring the heat. If he could he would send Vilma to the owners box. On the bright side you guys will have a high draft pick, so maybe you can trade that for a new owner that knows something about hiring good personel.
"I don’t think about how good we’ve been,’’ Brees said. "I think about how good we can be.’’
by FLDune Patrol on Dec 1, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your observation...
is a misinterpretation of an organization that is in chaos. Has nothing to do with fear or intimidation. I’m totally impressed with the Saints right now and there is a good chance you will put a lot of points on us. But there is no way we are going to lie down and take a beating. You will know you’ve been to DC and it will hurt all the way back to the Big Easy.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scared?
Just for that, I’m wishing a concussion on Drew Brees. We’ll see how good your 11-0 team is with Brunell at the helm down the stretch.
by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shame on you.
Wishing injury on a player is never acceptable regardless of what motivated you to do it. Do you beat your wife when she does something that doesn’t please you?
by Drew-Dat on Dec 2, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FLDune Patrol said a stupid thing and...
Doesn’t speak for all of us. I don’t believe that wishing makes any difference, but it makes me queasy to hear such. Hopefully we can nip any animosity in the bud and keep it civil. I assure you most Saints fans are much more well mannered, and would wish your team well on any week except this coming one.
Beat Dallas!
Look out! Right through! The kick blocked by Steve Gleason! It is scooped and scored by Curtis DeLoatch! Touchdown, New Orleans!
by Joseph William Stern on Dec 1, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I dont want to see anyone hurt i think your team has stepped it up on defense.
How does the Skins fans feel about Hayneworth i have always liked him a big body clogging up the middle we just need to keep him away from Brees
I havent seen to much of your team this year but i got a Skins fan constantly yapping in my ear about this game so excuse me if i hope we put 48 on ya’ll like we did the eagles and giants
by simone219 on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AH is having a Pro-Bowl worthy
season. Unfortunately, no matter how hard he plays, he will never get the credit he deserves due to the notoriety of his contract. This is compounded by the fact that he does not and is not expected to get a LOT of sacks. Like you say, he occupies the entire left side of your line and takes pressure off of his line-mates and makes our overall D a lot better. Just not flashy enough for the average football pundit to vote him to the Pro Bowl. He has had a number of high profile stops on 3rd and 4th downs where he just crunched the RB.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough...
he will never get the credit he deserves due to the notoriety of his contract.
this is just one more way Danny adds to the dysfunction of this organization. His complete lack of sense with regard to spending money is amazing when you compare his ability to acquire money.
At least we will be getting a Jumbotron here soon that will rival the Jefferson Memorial in size and be at least an inch in every direction bigger than Jerry’s.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you just reply to yourself
and quote the statement you just made? I like your style.
Anyways, I was at the Saints game last year, and because I sit in the poor people seats I am generally around alot of opposing fans. The Saints fans were as obnoxious as those of any other team that I’ve seen— Iggles included. The “who dat” chant is not only annoying in its repetitiveness and lack of creativity but moronic and insulting in its grammatical raping of our fine language. With that said- it was fun to mock their fans with it after Moss brought us back from a seemingly sure defeat.
by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
To hold a sports chant to Shakespearean standard...
Is ridiculous. Get over yourself.
Brees gonna throw down the Saints... Wide open Devery Henderson! Nobody's within twenty yards of him! He could do the backstroke into the end zone from there! And he'll take it in for a seventy-five yard touchdown strike!
by Joseph William Stern on Dec 1, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a Shakespearean standard
but simply something other than “who dat gon’ beat dem Saints” would be nice. Of the 6 words in that phrase only three are real words—with one of those being a proper noun.
How about you flip your barstool back over the correct way and recognize some harmless shit talking?
by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know when any Skins chant gets nominated for the Pulitzer.
Why should a team’s chant be held to any standard at all? Whether or not it gets them pumped is all that matters. In that sense “Who Dat” is one of the more successful chants in the NFL. I guess when one’s favorite team is bringing up the tail end of the also-ran’s tier one may resort to looking for just about anything to latch on to and claim as even the tiniest victory. I’m not saying that’s you and I’m sorry if our way with words offends thee, my lord, but methinks thou doth protest too much.
Brees gonna throw down the Saints... Wide open Devery Henderson! Nobody's within twenty yards of him! He could do the backstroke into the end zone from there! And he'll take it in for a seventy-five yard touchdown strike!
by Joseph William Stern on Dec 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose you can relate to that
being a long-time Saints fan. I’m assuming here that you aren’t a bandwagoner this season.
by CarverM on Dec 2, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still have the Saints onesie I came home from the hospital in twenty-one years later.
Brees gonna throw down the Saints... Wide open Devery Henderson! Nobody's within twenty yards of him! He could do the backstroke into the end zone from there! And he'll take it in for a seventy-five yard touchdown strike!
by Joseph William Stern on Dec 2, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about a Pulitzer
but I bet our fight song has been up for a couple of Country Music Awards!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 2, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was really
Did you just reply to yourself
just a nifty way to throw in an afterthought.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obnoxious??
This comment coming from the same person who is wishing for Brees to have a concussion really hurts. I suppose grown men dressing up like Ms. Piggie is less moronic?
by Drew-Dat on Dec 2, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
without doubt the smartest thing written about Haynesworth this year
, no matter how hard he plays, he will never get the credit he deserves due to the notoriety of his contract
and I dont just mean on this site, I mean anywhere in the popular/mainstream press or the blogosphere…. beautifully put Scott E
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Once he signs i dont see what his contract really has to do with it
He either plays great or he dont
We have that same issue with Reggie Bush people cant get past his contract,if he’s good enough to play then play him if not get rid of him
by simone219 on Dec 2, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There goes the wind
from my sails…:) Thanks for the compliment, PommyLee!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 2, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dont get too used to it Scott E
:)
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I read this morning
that the Saints are gonna let Reggie Bush go next year cos they are worred that paying him 8 mil next year will anger Cholston and some of the other more productive players who are on lesser contracts
if you ask me, that is stupid, and indicitative of what is wrong with the American Athletes mentality, IT IS A TEAM GAME and it is about WINNING not personal glory
Believe me in Australia if any athlete even utters a me first comment ONCE in the media he becomes a pariah and is traded from the club almost immeadiatly, I do not exagerate here one bit and that is why (and it pains me to say this being an English Migrant to Australia) but that is why Australia has such an amazing pedigree in Internation Sport, because of the win at all costs/team first, fans second, individual last attitude that is drilled into Aussie kids playing sport from the first time they play at Under 12’s level
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No offense taken
Any long time Saints Fans have every reason to be proud of their team, it’s been a long time coming but you guys are GOOD. You have everything that we want, good FO, excellent coaching & the chemistry that makes it all work.
by ENsDad27 on Dec 1, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It seems like Brees
back shoulders the receiver on every throw. It is unstoppable, our best chance is to get pressure and try to disrupt the rhythm.
by ronoD nagrO on Dec 1, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you remember the
play last night where NE totally blew their coverage and your WR was WIDE open? Well…we give up 1 or 2 of those a game for some reason. So we expect you to put up some points and I’m not sure you even need to talk about finesse play. But we will hit hard and play hard. There will be a price to pay for coming to DC – not saying we wish anyone to get injured, just expect a physical game.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See you on Sunday
Scott, watch the replays of Welker going across the middle last night. We hit hard too. This will be my 3rd. Saints-Skins game to attend at Fed-Ex. It is one of my favorite places to tail-gate. You guys are great fans. Looking foward to a tough NFC game.
Geaux Who Dat Nation…
A SAINT in Panther country
by carolinasaintsfan on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man did I miss Gregg Williams
watching that game last night. Who else could put that look on the face of Brady and Belichick? I definitely like the Saints despite the fact that I think they’re going to kill us on Sunday.
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 1, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea
He has upgraded our team more then we could describe by just being our DC
Sean Payton paid $250,000 out of his own pocket to subsidize his salary just to get him here our owner wouldnt pony it up
So we have a cheap owner who doesnt want to pay anyone getting great talent
And you have an owner who will open up fort knox to pay and cant put together a good team(no offense) thats ironic
by simone219 on Dec 2, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Life definitely aint fair
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 2, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Grief...
I had nightmares last night of 60 yard bombs raining down in FedEx this sunday. I wonder what magic Jim Corn and Greg Blanchette are cooking up over in Ashburn????
by Mr.Quint on Dec 1, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm betting
it’s the unpredictable run-run-pass offense combined with Landry in the end zone regardless of where the line of scrimmage is.
by SkinsOsTerps on Dec 1, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Our best hope is if
we put Hunter the Punter in on every down. Fear the Punt – or something else….!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If anything the Saints should be worried
Going 12-0 is a big deal:
how often do undefeated streaks make it through twelve games?
Most recently The Patriots did it in 2007, an undefeated 16-0 on the way to Super Bowl defeat.
The Colts did it in 2005, winning thirteen straight before losing two while resting players for the playoffs.
The Broncos did it in 1998, opening the season with thirteen straight wins on the way to Super Bowl victory. That was Terrell Davis’ 2000 yard rushing season.
Of course the Dolphins did it in 1972, an undefeated 14-0 on the way to Super Bowl victory over the Redskins.
And the Bears did it in 1934, going undefeated at 13-0.That’s it. All the great seasons of all the great teams in the NFL and a 12-0 start to the season has happened all of five times.
Saints need to be ready to play, the #1 pass defense or else they could slip up and be another team who did not make it to 12-0-Theres only ever, ever! been 5!
Quote from the informative The Curly R
by dr WNC on Dec 1, 2009 2:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Predict
the Dolphins left over from that team are going to remain a thirsty bunch.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 1, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ur on fire today dude
the Dolphins left over from that team are going to remain a thirsty bunch
brilliant, probably ripped off from somewhere for all I know or a very old joke in America or something, but its new to me and I like it
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless I stole it in my sleep
’twas all me. You are aware of their traditional champagne toast once the last team in the league loses each year?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Dec 2, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I like that tradition
particuarly when they had their SB night drinks with the Pats a couple of years ago
Still I think that tradition dies this year, I can see an undefeated Indy going up against an undefeated Saints in the SB this year
Plus can someone explain to me why Tony Dungy did not get criticised more for resting his players after he had the division or conference home field secured in most years this decade, The Giannts proved that year that maintaining high standards and staying in a winning rhythm and staying on a roll are more important than resting players, yet Dungy year after year had great Regular Season records, Rested players then got knocked out in the playoffs, and nobody called him out on it for destroying the routine of his players and blamed Dungy for doing the same thing (resting players before the playoffs) year after year and expecting a different result (not getting knocked out early in dissapointing fashion in the playoffs)
OH and u get full credit for that line then too, I wasnt saying I had heard it anywhere, just was unsure if it was a line I had never heard of but common in the States, but you have clarified its all you, so once again, great line!!! I loved it
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Dec 2, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Will Smith has 10 Sacks, not 8.5 :)
by Alex Saints on Dec 3, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
VINNY'S GOT IT ALL UNDER CONTROL
And if you think that is true, I’ve got a bridge I’d like to sell you… Get your SELL THE TEAM, DAN bumper sticker at www.savetheskins.com
by savetheskins.com on Dec 3, 2009 9:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Note of Thanks
Dear Mr. Snyder,
As a Saints fan, I would like to offer my sincere thanks for you firing Gregg Williams. As someone who grew up in DC and has been a fan of the Redskins since the early 60’s, please sell the team.
Regards
by jimh70458 on Dec 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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