Ail Will the Redskins, Ail My Sprained Knee
by KevinE on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 PM EST
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Injury Report is a doozy this week.
Redskins will be continuing their patch work as they face the Denver Broncos this weekend. Zorn stated the Redskins will be looking to sign a RB with Portis "doubtful." Any guesses on this one?
Larry Johnson, who was recently released by the Chiefs, is the likely option. Be the first to get your LJ Redskins jersey!! Or, will Anthony Alridge get the hat trick with his 3rd signing this year with the burgundy and gold? Never a dull moment folks! Cerrato must be loving all the fun work he has to bring in another offensive weapon. Hopefully the Redskins don't lose a draft pick out of all this.
In other news, with the Mike Williams injury (ligament damage in ankle 2-4 weeks), Stephon Heyer will move back to right tackle, and Levi Jones will start at left tackle.
Other Injuries: Chris Horton is out 4-6 weeks (toe). Reed Doughty and Jason Campbell will be OK.
It's maddening how many injuries the Redskins have. Brian Mitchell, as expected, went off in the post-game show stating all this, especially the bad tackling, is a result of the easy training camp the players had. BMitch went on to add that the Redskins did not do any tackling drills in camp, which is clearly evident in the games and lack of effort. Again, one can blame Zorn, but Blache to me seems to be the one that doesn't care. His players are continually committing inexcusable, dumb penalties. I can't possibly see him wanting to stay here another year.
The media outlets that went to multiple training camps said the Redskins camp was very light compared to the others. A lot of the retired players on the major networks have also vocalized their distaste for the music over the loud speakers at practice. They said it absolutely sends the wrong message. Since I haven't been to any other NFL camps but the Redskins, it's hard for me to say one way or the other. The week I was there, there definitely were not any tackling drills that I saw, but they did tackle during their scrimmage drills.
Either way, each week just gets more laughable. Anyone want to guess how many of our week 1 starters will be out week 17 due to injury? 50%?
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About the tackling stuff
Dallas got the same treatement early in the season for the 1st four weeks, when a team is winning all past barbs are forgotten. The tackling thing went away when they won against the falcons; so what I am reading here is just the result of losing.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Nov 9, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Keep winning those meaningless games
You’ll just be picking in the 20’s come draft time and sitting there with Bum Phillips’ son on the sideline again – with all of the good HCs taken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Nov 9, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I remember during training camps, it was news-worthy when teams actually were doing tackling drills. Now that injuries are presenting themselves (more than other teams), analysts need to look for a reason to highlight. They gotta fill the time between plays somehow, and saying “They’ve got bad luck” doesn’t last long.
by SSBlitz on Nov 9, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The eagles were getting cred for having tackling drills
Bye-dawk was on BTB site bringing it up during the TC and preseason period. The eagles and dallas look pretty even, tackling in TC or not tackling.
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I’m actually hoping on the Aldridge return. I mean, it isn’t like we’re going to the postseason so I say give the young change of pace back a shot to prove something. Everything at this point should pretty much be considered auditions anyway. Whatever happens though I will be happy if we don’t lose draft picks over it.
It pains me to see Horton out. Some have criticized me for this because he has had a few sloppy moments this season but I think he’s a play maker and the kind of guy with the personality you want on the team. A disciplined hard worker who so far seems to speak with his play, not his mouth. I mean, how often do we get a 7th rounder who contributes?
I’m not too impressed with D. Hall because of his tackling failure (really I’m not sure I’ve forgiven him for letting Delhomme get by him). However check out the Steinberg reconstruction of the incident before you criticize him too much :
by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 9, 2009 2:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Great article.
And I agree, leave LJ alone and bring back Alridge to be active and play. At least then maybe we can settle once and for all whether we should keep bringing him back or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Nov 9, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just got an email from CJ
he said “Bring back Mason assholes!”
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 9, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I presume a comma after
Mason is unintentionally missing….:)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 9, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct
;)
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 9, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wasn't sure if
I needed to bone up on my anatomy, if you’ll excuse the unfortunate terminology. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 10, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to me
like getting Levi Jones on the field will probably help us. Also, why should we bother signing another running back when they will probably be inactive anyway? We should sign a lineman off of someone’s practice squad and start to teach them our system.
by CarverM on Nov 9, 2009 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sign another lineman?
B-b-but we have Batiste and Montgomery….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Nov 9, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Batiste is the Oline version of coitus interruptus
There’s nothing to block the bad guys from getting to the prize if the balls are held a second too long.
by CarverM on Nov 9, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice analogy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Nov 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blache
“I can’t possibly see him wanting to stay here another year.” Hell, I don’t want him to stay another week. He can go in Vinny’s suitcase.
by John S51 on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
LaRon
Just read a quote from Zorn that Landry may move back to Strong Safety.
by KevinE on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
question
if he does move back and plays well like he should seeing as how it’s his natural position, what do we do about horton? do we really need 3 active Strong safeties?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 9, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good question.
Presumably Horton would be healthy for 1/2 of our remaining schedule….
by CarverM on Nov 9, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
would anyone
be opposed to Laron playing the position to get his stock back up to trade him at the end of the year? I’m sure we can get a 2nd or 3rd for him depending on how fast he get back into playing there again.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 9, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Safeties
Landry would play SS and Kareem Moore FS. I like it. Kareem takes a lot of risks, but is very aggressive and makes the big hit. I’m ready for a change.
by KevinE on Nov 9, 2009 9:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to Landry
who used to be very aggressive and missed the big hits. Landry isn’t the same player without Taylor. They were the perfect compliments to one another, but its starting to seem as if they were a matched set. Its a shame too- I like Landry. I hope he can get his shit together. Perhaps the move back to his natural position is just what he needs.
by CarverM on Nov 10, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the guy too
but in the long run, just like people like to talk about trading Cooley (who DOES do his job for the most part), if he does play well at SS, do we use him to garner more draft picks when we still have young capable guys to do his job?
Just posing a question for discussion, not necessarily the scenario I want but it’s one that intrigues me.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 10, 2009 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Note:
Laron Landry is only 25 years old.
Youth movement is great, but we don’t need to rob the cradle.
by CarverM on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like my point is getting lost in translation
the fact that he’s good AND young theoretically makes for a good trade, correct?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 10, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he plays SS well enough to get trade value
why not just keep him? A 2nd or 3rd rounder isn’t going to be worth it for us, in my opinion. If he plays well, the job is his. Dude was a 6th overall pick, for gosh sakes. He can still be a stud for us.
by CarverM on Nov 10, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no doubt
just trying to get a feel for it. i feel the same way about chris, but it seems like everyone wants to jettison the guy because he had one good game.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 10, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
because *Davis had one good game
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 10, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
Rebuilding is great, but I feel the Oline is the only unit in desperate need of an overhaul. We don’t need to start giving away known talent so we can try to develop new talent. We don’t seem to be very good at that. This isn’t an argument for using alot of free agency to build a roster, because we’ve proven that doesn’t work either. Our key shouldn’t be building solely through the draft, but a balanced approach- like good franchises do. After all, Green Bay builds almost completely through the draft these days, and their Oline is pretty terrible as well.
by CarverM on Nov 10, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Horton is out for 2-4 weeks...
so it’s a moot point for now.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 9, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only 3 years too late!
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 9, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw a WashingtonTimes tweet
Redskins have zero interest in Larry Johnson. It’s amazing that as Skins fans we have to be thankful that Vinny isn’t pulling the trigger on what seems as obvious moves to fans.
by KevinE on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure that LJ
buys us much. And he’s kind of a canker sore coming to a team that has issues. Can’t see him being much of a positive moral-wise at least.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 9, 2009 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lavar was
blustering on and on today about how the Redskins would definitely make this move because “thats what they do, they love drama.” What an idiot, I wanted to scream. One thing I’ve always liked about this team is that we have a lot of strong character guys in the locker room. DeAngelo is a clown, but he doesn’t have a lot of off-the-field baggage.
by Boo. on Nov 9, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he may be a clown
but how many INTs do we have without him
by skinaholic on Nov 10, 2009 1:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lavar isn't an idiot
and he wasn’t wildly wrong.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 10, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we go
2-14, where will we be picking in the draft? I figure the Browns won’t win again, but the other one-win teams could win a few more in the second half. Could the ’Skins be sitting at no. 1 or 2 come draft day???
While everyone knows what we should draft, you could probably go out and buy a Bradford jersey and still be safe.
What a great season.
by jdubz on Nov 9, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope we stay out of the top 10
not just because it means we will likely have won another game, but we don’t have the resources – besides Snyder’s pockets – to go after a heavy hitter in the draft unless its the best lineman in the world – think Jake Long. It’s too soon to draft a marquee QB without us having rebuilt our line, etc.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 10, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
We don’t even really need the best lineman in the world, we just need several pretty good ones. Serviceable ones would even be an upgrade at this point. Stud linemen are awesome, don’t get me wrong. The oline, more than any other unit, however, is more about chemistry with the 4 fatties next to you than it is about pure talent. Look at the original “Hogs,” most of those guys were undrafted free agents, but they were warriors who worked damn well together. That’s what we need.
by CarverM on Nov 10, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
If we draft a group of o-linemen they can build the chemistry and comradarie necessary to be a strong unit for years to come. It would be a great start to rebuilding what we once had.
by Kurtstack on Nov 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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