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Washington Redskins Offense Backs Into Hydrant, Then Tree, Found Bloodied and Unconscious On I-95

We actually didn't do that bad. Making Philly pay for the opening onside kick was amazing, especially considering it was the first opening drive touchdown we had scored since Week 3 in 2008 (Cardinals...thanks to Matt Terl for that nugget.)

The ability of this offense to convert 3rd downs in long yardage situations is simply intoxicating, but the sheer absurdity of how often we find ourselves in 3rd and long is beyond sobering. Despite the fact that this team actually sustained a few drives yesterday, the calling card of this offense continues to be inconsistency. From the play-calling down to the execution, the lack of an even-keeled smoothness is nowhere to be found. The last couple weeks we have been in games at the end against good teams, but have been unable to close them out. It makes for exciting football to watch, but the repeated heartbreak I feel each week is just miserable. We have proven over the last two seasons that we are incapable of overcoming errors. I understand and tend to agree with the argument that games are not won or lost on one or two plays. But then again, those two early interceptions thrown by JC proved to be too costly to overcome. Maybe the rule should be: "Good teams don't get beat by one bad play."

Throughout the game, I found myself falling head over heels for our defense over and over again. They succeeded yet again in shutting down a pretty good offense for most of the game. Our defensive line got pressure on McNabb and their ability to block and deflect balls at the line and during Donovan's throwing motion resulted in frustration as well as Justin Tryon's first interception. The one knock I guess that remains is...how do you REGULARLY let Desean Jackson go free down the field? How frustrating is it that when the camera shows McNabb loading up a big one, you just KNOW that Desean Jackson is all by himself somewhere, running to the end zone. Doesn't LaRon Landry line up like 30 yards off the ball? How does Jackson get deep on that? It just seems insane that we would say, "Let's make them beat us with the deep ball to Desean!" Because that's what they are good at! It's like leaving a bottle of booze, a camera and Lindsay Lohan alone in a room with...well, with anyone--100% chance of sex tape. London Fletcher put an end to Jackson's day thankfully, but the damage was done.  

What was the best play you saw all day? I thought Campbell's scramble and throw to Devin Thomas for a clutch first down in the second half was very strong. I liked it probably just a hair more than his scramble and subsequent TD toss to Fred Davis. What stood out to you?

Even though we are proving ourselves incapable of beating good teams in close games, you don't see the team giving up down the stretch. (You won't hear me extolling the virtues of a moral victory though.) The season is a bust since the playoffs are out of the picture. But we have enough guys with plenty to play for in the weeks ahead. Campbell is playing for a career. Mason and Ganther are playing to get reps on film. Thomas, Kelly, and Davis are playing to secure their roles for next season. Our offensive line is playing...well at least some of them are playing to try and make the team next year. On defense, guys like Jarmon, Orakpo, Barnes and Tryon will continue to learn on the job in the hopes that we won't lose a step next season on defense. The disconnect here is that on the sidelines, I have no feel for what, if anything, coaches and play-callers are doing or even could do to save their jobs or build momentum to next season. The play-calling setup continues to be a mockery as well as fodder for every analyst discussing our team.

I can't let this recap go without a mention of the "settling for a field goal" decision we made late in the game. It was obvious to everyone that we were going for 3 on those last 3 downs before the field goal right? To me, watching Sherm Lewis pussyfoot in the red zone there was 10 times worse than not taking a shot last week against the Cowgirls at the end of the first half on 3rd down with 15 seconds left.

Team Stat Comparison
 
1st Downs 15 17
Passing 1st downs
11 9
Rushing 1st downs
4 8
1st downs from Penalties
0 0
3rd down efficiency
8-17 5-15
4th down efficiency
0-1 1-1
Total Plays 63 67
Total Yards 303 381
Passing 221 258
Comp-Att
22-37 21-36
Yards per pass
6.0 7.2
Rushing 82 123
Rushing Attempts
25 29
Yards per rush
3.3 4.2
Red Zone (Made-Att) 3-4 1-4
Penalties 7-39 7-60
Turnovers 2 1
Fumbles lost
0 0
Interceptions thrown
2 1
Defensive / Special Teams TDs 0 0
Possession 29:42 30:18

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JC's scramble and subsequent 30 yrd pass to DT was the best

I thought for SURE he was gonna get sacked, but Lo and Behold he somehow rolls out of that car wreck and finds DT down the field.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 30, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

On many levels!

Showed heart not to just take the sack, athletic ability to move out and find the open receiver, and then the ball was spot on between two defenders. I could say more, but it would just be whining after a really good effort.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Andre Carter continues to play hard for us

It would seem our defensive line should be able to stay strong for us next year. Jarmon looks like a real player. Maybe a middle-tier free agent type of player could come in and provide some key depth, but we shouldn’t be worried about burning a top pick in that area next year.

by Sugar on Nov 30, 2009 12:23 PM EST reply actions  

are you

EFFING KIDDING ME??? Will someone please get a giant leafblower and get that black cloud the hell away from us? I was looking forward to seeing more of Jarmon as the season progressed/wound down. I at least hope this prompts them to play Orakpo more at end, and give Wilson more time at SLB.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I at least hope this prompts them to play Orakpo more at end, and give Wilson more time at SLB.

That would make way too much sense

by pas493 on Nov 30, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...

that one hurt…a lot

by Sugar on Nov 30, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

That hurts all the way into next year.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Third and longs

were largely due to 1st and 15s – didn’t anyone feel it maddening the number of offensive line miscues? We continue to find ways to make it harder for us.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Stephon Heyer was atrocious

The false starts didn’t mind me but the horrible blocking was. There was one pass play where an Eagles LINEMAN ran untouched by him off the snap. Campbell seriously hadn’t started his 2nd step yet when he was pressured.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 30, 2009 12:32 PM EST reply actions  

have they honestly reduced us to THIS!?!?
The false starts didn’t mind me

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 30, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You endure what you tolerate...

That’s a huge reason why Gibbs, Tuna, Belichick, Lombardi etc etc were successful.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

sure there is

if they’re playing LEFT tackle. We need a starter at both tackle spots, and one at guard.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I was one of those that wanted Levi as a stopgap

NOT as the permanent answer. We can do the same with them thaytBaltimore is doing with Oher (and the guy is the real F’n deal too), play him at RT until it’s time to move over so he has the playing experience.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 30, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oher does look like

a monster, but I’m not sure they’re gonna move him to the left permanently. I believe they just signed Gaither, who is basically the same age and not oo shabby either, long term.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

When you need 3 new tackles

signing Jones(if we can get a decent deal) is a pretty good idea for depth if no other reason. I know he was bad on Sunday but was good the 2 weeks before so he is pretty much the best tackle we have. We can’t count on getting everything we need in the draft we have no clue who will drop to us so us doing as much about the tackle position pre draft as we can sounds smart to me.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree completely

Jones is one of the MAYBE 3 or 4 guys I’d bring back. He could start over a rookie to begin with, and/or provide a legit backup at either tackle spot.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

why would they strengthen their line when there are better qbs than flacco available, they have no clear star rb and their best receiver is an old burner

oh wait, thats what champs do

steelers last night are another perfect example of how good lines keep u in every game

snyder is an idiot- living proof that u only need to be lucky once in ur life :)

by les boulez bomber on Nov 30, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

while the Steelers line has gelled recently. It has been one of the worst O-lines over the last 2 years.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong

look at the statistics for the amount of time Big Ben gets to hold onto the ball before he throws/gets sacked and compare them to JC’s

by word2bigbird on Nov 30, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta disagree

While Ben’s style does contribute to alot of sacks they have been a horrible running team until a couple weeks ago and they have been pretty mediocre overall. What does JC have to do with it? Pittsburgh has a pretty decent line now that guys like Max Starks have improved but to say they have had a good O-line the last 2 years(outside of the last couple weeks) is wrong. The storyline all last year was their O-line was horrible. Do you remember our impotent D-line blowing through their O-line repeatedly last year? I sure do. This isn’t a matter of opinion it’s a fact that their O-line has struggled the last couple years. I agree with the importance of the O-line I was just saying the Steelers aren’t the best example as their defense and skill players allowed them to overcome a mediocre line.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

just checked the Football Outsiders analysis of 2008 offensive lines

Pitt was bottom third in rushing and the 3rd worst team in stuffed percentage(The percentage of their runs that are stopped for no gain or a loss.) They were the second or third worst team in sack percentage but I am willing to say they would have been middle of the pack if Ben didn’t take so many sacks. Regardless that is a pretty mediocre line that was carried by the Defense and Skill players. 2007 they were horrible too. I wasn’t comparing their line to ours just stating theirs has been bad but since your making up straw man arguments you should acknowledge their O-line has been worse than ours up to this year(and they’re not much better than us this year either). Regardless like I said the Bomber made a good point he just used a bad example as the Steelers have had a horrible O-line for 2 years and spent their first rounder on a D-lineman. They were lucky enough to have a D to carry them and that certain guys improved otherwise they sound alot like what the skins did the last 3 years only Pitt’s O-line was worse than ours.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Pass blocking and run blocking are not ......

the same. You can have a O -line that is good at pass blocking and not run blocking. Pass blocking is more technic involved . Run blocking is technic and power, attitude.

by LETJASONPASS on Dec 1, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

My example was solely limited to the Ravens game, which I watched. The line kept them competitive.

but WoW- I am surprised to learn the steelers line rated that badly. They sure must be streaky because when they are winning…they clearly do not have a bottom third line leading the way.

I am not some big fatso sitting at home rooting for a return of glory. The game of football starts and ends with control of the line of scrimmage- 95% of the time. Whoever owns it should and will win almost always. It is the high percentage route to top tier franchises.

In many ways, it just reinforces my point.

by les boulez bomber on Dec 1, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

No need to fear

Stephon will be on DWTS next season. As DWTS is a contact event.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I can invision

his partner whisking by him and landing on top of the judges panel.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how Heyer will be on DWTS

He knows how to hold, but is usually a step early and prevents everyone from getting into a rhythm.

by CarverM on Nov 30, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ba-zing

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 30, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a GREAT Matador

on this team. Someone who will step up and just put a sword through all the bull that is associated with it. Start with the bull that comes out of the FFO.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

I meant matador as in he loves to OLE’ the bull rushers right towards Campbell. Maybe I should have said Maitre de, with Campbell being the best table in the joint.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

I was just expanding on the reason we need a Matador, as you suggested. LOL at the Maitre de, too! Of course, they all eat well at the Buffet du la Jason – It’s soup time! mm..mmmm Good!

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Most of what you said

is spot on. I couldn’t have said it better myself. At least not without a few cuss words. But I guess that one point I differ on is

the repeated heartbreak I feel each week is just miserable.

I guess I resigned myself to an awful season weeks ago. And now I find myself torn. I am actually happier now because of the better play I’ve seen over the last few weeks, and the losses don’t really bother me as much. Well, ok, they don’t bother me the next day. Sure, I want like hell for us to win, ESPECIALLY against division teams, but the realist in me knows that the worse we do, the better the chances are of Snyder cleaning house in the offseason. If we can stay below, say, 5 or 6 games, and continue to embarrass him in the process, I feel he will have no choice but to kick Vinny out the door, and hopefully a couple of used up veterans with bloated contracts with him. Add to that the fact that a shitty season gives us good draft picks (and I’m not JUST talking about the 1st rounder we’ll probably waste on a QB, but all the high-in-the-round-picks) for a HOPEFULLY legitimate GM to use, and the worse record the better.

I know this is all heresy, so I’ll temper it by saying that BY NO MEANS am I wishing for a loss on gameday. Any of you who see me on the thread know that’s not the case. But after the game, when the dust (and frustration) settles, I have begun to look at the big picture, albeit with burgundy colored glasses on.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Know how you feel, but there will be NO housecleaning this year

Much of our woes are due to coaching. Snyder brings in a play caller and a lot of regulars get hurt. All of a sudden the people performing on the field, even in close losses, is Vinny’s guys. DT, MK, and Fred Davis all showed they can play and will be a huge part of any future success. I’m sure there are others. The seemingly hollow, “I gave them a playoff contender” assertion by Vinny does not seem as hollow today as it did 6 weeks ago. Our best hope is they address the line with at least 2 picks in 2-3 rounds and get lucky with a QB.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks again for the dose of reality

my nuts manged to escape yesterday on life support and I think you just took ’em out.

Oh, and you forgot Tryon is one of Vinny’s

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 30, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

I’ll put away the “testicle defibrillators.” But I just don’t see it happening anyone’s way but Snyder’s.

Viva la Revolution……

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the most depressing thing

that I’ve ever read. Snyder needs to see that playoff-caliber teams don’t turn to crap after two offensive linemen go down. Injuries happen- good teams continue to win in spite of them and pretenders go 2-5 through the easiest 7 game stretch in NFL history.

by CarverM on Nov 30, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

When you look at it...

it is absolutely AMAZING how thin we are at so many positions – and that was going into the season. QB, LB, PR, OL – that’s like 25% of the required positions that would collapse due to an injury. Also, nostalgia being what it is, everyone many seems to think the O-line was playing well before their injuries. Don’t think so. I don’t recall a significant improvement until the second half of the Atlanta game.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You get my point.

This wasn’t a playoff-caliber roster, even with Samuels and Thomas.

by CarverM on Nov 30, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

But Vinny only has to convince Snyder

and the facts are – his guys are performing when the Coaching staff gives them a chance and the O-line plays adequately.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It is also his charge

to assemble an offensive line capable of playing adequately. Therefore, if Snyder is still convinced of Vinny’s effectiveness in performing his duties then Snyder must reconsider just what Vinny’s job description is. He is not just a ‘drafter of capable skill players’ but someone who is responsible for the entire roster, from the top of the depth chart to the bottom.

by CarverM on Nov 30, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Holes in Washington DC

are often covered up.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I love it

when a plan comes together…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

brilliant gentleman

just brilliant. I’ll get the construction costumes so as not to rouse suspicion.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Dec 3, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure

“Vinny’s guys” have somewhat aqcuitted themselves. But do you REALLY think this team would be in the playoffs is these guys had played all season? And remember, along with that “playoff contender” statement, he also said that they KNEW Randy Thomas would get hurt, and that Samuels probably would too. Yet he STILL failed to add quality depth, choosing instead to keep returning to the well of that offensive juggernaut Univ. of Maryland for undrafted O-linemen.
Just because his guys are playing well doesn’t mean they were the right picks. Remember, he picked Devin Thomas over Matt Forte, Curtis Lofton, AND Eddie Royal, then picked Fred Davis over Desean Jackson and Calais Campbell. You don’t think that Snyder thinks about that everytime he sees Jackson running wide open past our secondary, realizing that this is going to be a regular occurrence twice a year for the next 6 -10 years?

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair the fan base would have killed him if

he picked another small reciever when we had ARE and Moss.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but I was ready to kill him after he picked a SECOND receiver, let alone a THIRD. But I’m not talking about he fan base, and I’m not even saying that he didn’t have Snyder’s approval. But that doesn’t mean Snyder still won’t hold it against him.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially since

“apparent invisibility” is not scouted or tested for at the combines.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Referring to

Desean Jackson the two games we played against him this year. Or he toyed with us this year.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i respectfully ask…u r joking right

not only are they an organizational mess in every way with no general manager, and three guys splitting head coaching duties,

but when u cut through the fog, they are spent sooo much money to bring this crap to us

they exploited every twist and turn in the cap to field this junk and if next year were a normal year, a large part of the team would be let go, maybe a third, including half the big money “star” players.

and who was the bright one that setup resigning your “up and coming” star players all in the same year (and they are playing much much better)…we will probably keep one of the receivers, though the other may just be injury prone any ways. and we will lose davis or cooley.

ownership is completely and utterly clueless and his 10 year track record reinforces my point with a thundering shudder. but he is too much a jerk to care, which is why i dont.

but i agree with you that the coaches are not completely off the hook: zorn has never been smart enough to adapt a system that compliments his players skills and still tries to ram his system down using the wrong players.

with a real offensive line instead of albert haynesworth and a more traditionally minded coach (old redskins now ravens/steelers) football, this could have been a 10-12 win team this year because the rest of the nfc east is subpar this year

by les boulez bomber on Nov 30, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Was there available FA's for O-line we could have signed with AH's money?

I’m asking seriously. Jason Peters and Stacy Andrews have been disapointments this year. Were there stud O-lineman available through FA? I don’t think the AH signing really impacted the team in any ways negatively. I have to disagree about the 10-12 win team withough AH thing. Even if we traded him in for 2 average starters on the O-line this is not a 10-12 win team. Even with AH this is a middle of the road defense.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Stellar? really?

He graded out as the 11th best tackle according to PFF. Maybe disappointment is slightly strong but stellar is ridiculous. He’s been decent but is being payed 13mil. and you guys gave a first for him. AH on the other hand grades out a the 4th best DT so far this year and he costs 1 mil. less per year. Maybe overpaid is a better word. He doesn’t suck but he’s not one of the leagues best.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

On "Settling for a Field Goal"

Playing aggressively netted them two INTs in the last couple of minutes of the first half where playing it safe would have led to punting to protect a lead. Bottom line: a coach (OK, the coaches on this dysfunctional team) is/are going to get cheered if it all works out and jeered if it doesn’t. But if you’re going to bitch about the INTs then don’t bitch about setting up the late field goal.

by d_c_guy on Nov 30, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

You could hear

the genius-loke commentators warming up their vocal chords on Hunter the Punter’s TD pass to Sellers before the ball even got into the air. Most TV commentators speak only through hind-sight, making them correct some of the time.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

*like

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I beg to differ

even those INT’s were an indirect result of the play it safe attitude of this coaching staff. I could live with INT’s that are thrown while being AGGRESSIVE, but 8 yard pass plays are hardly going for the jugular. Now, if you throw an interception while heaving it downfield, at least you have the chance of tackling the guy early so that the play basically amounts to a punt. Meanwhile, you get the defense thinking about us going long. Right now nobody expects us to go downfield , which means the defense is packed tighter, making an interception much more likely.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

couldnt agree more
Now, if you throw an interception while heaving it downfield, at least you have the chance of tackling the guy early so that the play basically amounts to a punt.

I always wonder why this theory is not an out, on a 4th down go for it play. You just know that a cornerback is not going to give up an Interception even if it is in the teams best interests for him to drop it and live with the incompletion, Bonuses etc guarantee he will catch it, so on 4th downs part of the play should be, drag a corner downfield and if you cant catch it, make sure he does and then tackle him

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 30, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

First of all, the point about the INT’s wasn’t ‘bitching’. Good teams throw pickles too. But we don’t have the juice to overcome even small mistakes. Just saying. Also, neither throw that was picked off was an aggressive play. Both were thrown at or in front of the 1st down marker. We were just going for 1st downs, we weren’t going deep or anything.
Finally, the settling for the field goal attidude/philosophy at the end was just depressing since we did not attack the end zone. We actually showed we could score touchdowns yesterday, and then at the end, no killer instinct?

by Sugar on Nov 30, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather go down gunning at this point

especially since our defense just doesn’t close. Campbell has been our best offensive option all year I’d rather be aggressive with him than expect our defense to hold an 8 point lead.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

+10

What were they thinking? We had NOTHING to lose by being aggressive. Had we been successful its WIN-WIN, with more confidence, etc. Funny they questioned the players’ manhood at halftime of Falcons game – tell me it shouldn’t be the other way around?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That decision might have made sense if we were playoff bound but what do we have to lose?

though part of my feeling is my belief that if our defense has to make one stop at the end of the game they won’t no matter how they played earlier(mediocre on sunday IMO).

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you think your giving the defense too much of a pass?

They played Solid but not great. Even with the 2 turnovers giving up 27 points isn’t very great. Plus they would have given up more points possibly if Zorn hadn’t wasted a minute of time at the end of the half opreventing them from having enough time to get a TD. We were horrible against the run and was bailed out by Reid abandoing the run again. When was the last time our Defense made a stop when we needed it in the 4th. Even last year we were giving up game winning drives to teams like the Rams and Niners. Didn’t the Eagles go 90 yards for that last TD? I feel like our defense is solid but no lead is ever safe in the 4th. I kinda feel the Offense and defense played about the same this weekend.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions  

Laron and Carlos lost us the game yesterday

I’m not one to pin losses on individual players, but they really let the whole team down, and played worse than anyone else I saw.

They personally gave up that TD and other long 1st down conversions, which is worse than a JC INT that leads to a FG, or a Suisham missed FG in any other game.

Sadly our secondary needs serious work.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 30, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

true

Tryon developing is nice though. If him and Barnes can hold down the 3rd and 4th CB slots next year then we only have to get one more CB though any secondary led by Hall and Landry is gonna suffer.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Our secondary will get no work

because I’m convinced our FO doesn’t watch the games. They will see that “#1 Pass Defense” ranking and think we’re good to go.

by CarverM on Nov 30, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Which FO are you talking about

They see the #1 pass defense and get more CB, and forget the Offensive line again

by dr WNC on Nov 30, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

One of these days we'll end up building a defense

that holds teams to 3ppg, but we will average only 2ppg in our favor and finish 4-12.

by CarverM on Dec 1, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

666

The number of comments on the live game thread. How appropriate.

by Kurtstack on Nov 30, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

I know it worked in our favor

But was I the only one who was screaming about Zorn’s clock mismanagement at the end of the half?

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 30, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

And second half

I was half joking with my post last week that Cerrato needs to strip play-calling from Zorn. Zorn manages a clock like Carlos Rogers catches a ball.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 30, 2009 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Cerrato should

strip the SKINS from Zorn. It is so frustrating watching that guy on the sidelines. He is completely clueless. Seeing him looking at the play sheet in his hand and knowing he isn’t even using it would be comical if he was on another team.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Our entire household was

including the dog.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

How is it

that no one in the organization has a clue as to which plays to run in the 2 minute drill? Do they not have any?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's now official

Cooley has been put on the IR. Redskins are likely to have their first year since 1993 with zero pro bowlers.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 30, 2009 2:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

How is that possible

with the high profile FAs we have? Oh, nevermind – you have to actually play to be considered for the PB. But what about London Fletcher – many many tacles for a top 5 defense doesn’t qualify if you team is a loser?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully London

Solely for his work-ethic playing with an inept front office and head coach.

by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 30, 2009 2:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting thought

if we had a Top 10 offense to go with our defense, would AH get better recognition for his play. I’ve thought when in there he has been a force.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Even Peter King gave London a bit of credit today

sometimes a widely read journo like King is all you need to get the extra few thousand votes to put you in the Pro Bowl, I hope he gets in, I have voted for him

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 30, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

london fletcher is pro bowl material year in and year out

by les boulez bomber on Nov 30, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

most definitely

he deserves to go to hawaii for sure. oh wait…i mean miami…

so great that when he finally gets to go, it is just to miami, and not hawaii.

by Sugar on Nov 30, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be

surprised if Haynesworth made it, since the players and coaches have say. If it were up to the media and/or fans, he wouldn’t have a shot. But I believe the players know his impact. Also, if Fletcher doesn’t make it, I will lose all faith in the Pro Bowl process anyway.

by CJHutch on Nov 30, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Or *tackles if you prefer

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 30, 2009 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

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