Live Game Thread: Redskins @ Eagles
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 12:26 PM EST
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Washington Redskins at Philadelphia Eagles, Nov 29, 2009 1:00 PM EST
I do not have a good feeling about this game. We've seen how effective the Redskins pass rush is without Haynesworth and with Hall out, McNabb is likely going to pick the D apart. It's fitting that Mr. Snyder's most expensive free agent acquisitions are all out for a big NFC East game.
We'll do another giveaway today. Whoever can guess the correct winner and closest to total points will win the Karl Mecklenburg book we recently reviewed.
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Wow
Why do u risk giving the worst offense in the league ball in their own territory?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 1:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yes
And most of last year too
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Skins
redskinsblog: Last opening drive rushing touchdown for the #Redskins was, per Skins PR, against Arizona — game 3, 2008.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 1:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He was healthy when it counted
We just didn’t get it done…No need to rush him back…except for the finale against the cowgirls. he has to make that game.
If it wasn't for that
there wouldn’t be any doubters. Man’s a hell of a player, but needs to be on the field to earn that monster contract.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 29, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
this is football
injuries happen. You can’t evaluate him on his contract, you evaluate him on his play
And he's not playing now
Don’t get me wrong, I’m rooting for the Skins wholeheartedly today. Not just for the standings, but I’m playing against the Eagles D. So I want you running up the score here, and having fat man on the field would help that.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 29, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
The same could be said now for...
Samuels, Thomas, Portis, Hall…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Why do the skins never throw the ball past the 1st down marker?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 1:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He has no respect for this run defense
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
They should put
Tryon on him the whole game, no matter where he goes. Follow him to the goddam sideline
How can they not keep track of Jackson?
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:37 PM EST reply actions
Funny thing is....
If Vinny did draft Desean Jackson, you know Randle El would still be returning punts.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 1:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
You know our coaching staff wouId not have used him right. I also wonder if DT or MK would have be more successful in their offense, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
WTF
what the F kind of coaching do they have going on,that illustration of the coaching is like some elemtary school mess
Just wish we had traded him before he got hurt while he still had some value.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Sense?
This is the Redskins we are talking about.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
haha. i mean rock in space where as portis needs sellers and the rest
by clearwatercane on Nov 29, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yea, I mean I agree, just it is the Redskins and sense is not common around this organization.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
I know
We repeat alot of plays and schemes but it always seems like the defences are always ready for what we are going to do.When we go play action pass the d is ready for it,i would think we would get one completion down field.Oh thats right it’ll either get dropped or JC will get creamed
So aside from one blown coverage, the skins look great today.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:50 PM EST reply actions
You probably just jinxed us
And so we’ll be blown out and it will be all your fault. You should be ashamed.
i think its ok to say we look great
but theres big problems with people making dumb statements about whats GOING to happen. And it does happen often on here. If not for HH posters, we would have won last week. Lol
True
Only that was two blown coverages.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Thinking...
We had the potential to lead the NFC east,we pretty much lost most of our games by beating ourselves.
We should win just enough games to close out the year to get fans excited about next year. So, the usual.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Thank God
Daniels cares enough to not have his surgery and still finish the season,that’s commitment there.
Yep
They try to play like bigtime shutdown guys instead of getting the job done.It’s all show back there
I’d like to see some trickery here. Maybe a Randle El pass or something.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions
only so many times
we can hold them back. They’re gonna break out if we keep this crap up. Prob’ly starting here.
I think Landry’s really improved his tackling as the season progresses, it’s the angles he’s taking that’s the problem.
And his timing
is always suspect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Why hasn't DT returned kicks all season again?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
LMAO
When did Samuel start playing for the Skins?!?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I won't lie
I really wish he WAS on our team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Maybe
But he’s also the best corner in our division.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I’m not a Samuel fan. As you can see clearly in this game, the guy pads his INT stats against bad O-lines and QBs. Against good competition I wouldn’t even say he’s the best CB in Philly (Brown doesn’t get all those INT but he doesn’t give up as many yards).
I'm not a fan either
But that’s because of the colors he wears every Sunday. The few Iggle games I’ve watched, Samuel has covered the opposing team’s #1 receiver and he seems to shut his guy down. He has more passes defended and more INTs than Brown. He’s faster than Brown. The only thing I would say Brown is better than Samuel at is tackling. But it’s honestly tough to evaluate corners properly without considering a wide range of variables.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Like I said, he’s good at getting INTs against bad teams (his only INT against an impressive team was the Giants and Eli Manning… and considering how the Giants are playing now, that’s not saying much) and he has more pass defenses because, as you said, he lines up against the other team’s #1.
Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s good (those INT make up for the relative lack in coverage skills), but I just wouldn’t trust him against a good O-line and a good QB because he just doesn’t get INT against good teams.
I
Jeremy jarmon has a knee sprain
Return questionable. Geez.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 2:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
tell him to get healthy for nest year
by clearwatercane on Nov 29, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
Unbelievable
When did he get hurt? Looking at the play book??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Reid probably doesn’t know what to do with three time outs. I wouldn’t be surprised if he found a way to botch the easy 3 pts here.
Everyone can blame the offensive line all they want, but JC knows he is going to be pressured and the bad decisions he constanly makes are 100% his fault.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Say what you will about playcalling and gameplanning,
but our coaches have been very good at making adjustments at halftime all year and pumping everyone up.
Lets get a TO of our own to start the half.
I think
the first drive will tell whether we remain in the game. We need to keep them from scoring here. They’ve moved the ball way too easily
Zorns horrible clock management finally helped us
If he hadn’t wasted 50 seconds of clock time Philly would have had time to get a TD instead of a FG. FML
Because they kicked off to open the game?
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
If Fred Davis can keep this play up, he has a bright future.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions
At least we are doing well on third and longs, because we keep ending up there.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions
I love how earlier this year DT and MK were being called busts. Who would have guessed that they could be productive if they only got to play?
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions
I was nervous because the blue line of scrimmage that is usually on the screen picked a great play to not show up on. Or at least I didnt see it.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
He was mostly behind the line
that was the best drive I’ve ever seen Campbell orchestrate. He’s building some confidence for next year when he’s the Bills QB after the Skins draft Clausen.
Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!
by bigbluethruandthru on Nov 29, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Campbell is on pace for another 3000 yd season and I think that was his 12th or 13th TD pass on the year. He puts up solid numbers and he needs a chance.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
LoL
somebody must have threatenend to take away the bently’s and the women if they don’t play better
some team is gonna get a pretty decent QB next yr when snyder drops campbell and wastes another #1 on another qb
will prob be just the move that gets me to part time fan- along with keeping vinny and this crazy org structure
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions
well, the second one was just before the end of the half and led to their field goal.
it really resulted from the weak O line which held for maybe 1 sec before jason was hurried
samuels is too good and knows that a hurried qb at the start of the play will look to dump and jumped the route
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Just trollin over at BGN:
The Redskins can do EXACTLY what this offense cant do
THey convert on 3rd downs and MAKE PLAYS i nthe red zone
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Joe_D on Nov 29, 2009 11:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Thought it was funny
I am so happy that he is a beast thus far. It makes me feel not quite so bad about not taking OL in the draft.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love it
Imagine how awesome he’ll be when he actually plays his natural position full time!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Yea..
I hate to wish ill on anyone, but I really wouldn’t mind seeing Jackson head to the locker room for the remainder of this one.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Portis who?
What do you think the chances are of releasing Portis, and keeping a three back rotation?
62% of the time
it works everytime.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I guess
But he seems to miss a wide open Moss at least twice a game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I should add
Moss has his fair share of DROPS too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
You are definitely not handicapped by having Maclin return kicks when Jackson is out.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:15 PM EST reply actions
I am so psyched about new 24. I didn’t start watching until this summer in Iraq I watched all 7 seasons and I’ve been really awaiting season 8.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I appreciate the thanks. Did my 5 years USMC and I’m out now.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What happened to Rock? I don’t mind seeing Ganther out there, but Rock has been rolling.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions
Effin hold. JC made that nasty slide for nothing.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions
Great time for the refs to call holding
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Fortunately the calls have gone both ways.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions
let me just say now
I may end up pissed tomorrow, but I’m happy with this game right now. Nice to be competing. This is 4 weeks in a row…..kinda
It would be nice
for this to be the one loss that kept Phillthy out of the playoffs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
TRYON with the INT!?!
Did that just happen?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I had to rewind it to make sure :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Then need a TD and 2-point coversion!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I mean its not like Suisham has missed kicks that cost us games before. Right Dallas?
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions
I'm talking about more than this year.
And either one of those two gets us the win in Dallas.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
That was close
WAY too much time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Landry needs to be traded
while he still has market value
Blache gave them a zone and that’s what they’re taking. I can’t entirely blame Landry for those two plays.
Dear Santa,
For Christmas please teach Laron Landry how to wrap up tackles. And a new bike plz.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions
Jeez.
Throw everyone under the bus right away.
He had great coverage on that play that got called back by holding.
This play he was in cloud coverage on a WR and TE. He cheated to the TE.
At least Landry made sure Avant stayed down,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
Justin tryon
Hip pointer. Return questionable
by Kevin Ewoldt on Nov 29, 2009 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions
This game is becoming a little too much like last week: Time to see if Jason Campbell can put in a game winning drive in the 4th…
this is usually where the weak O line usually fails us- when it matters most
hopefully they are getting better
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 3:55 PM EST reply actions
All those first down runs were to set up that one play.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions
I hate to be picky
but man it woulda been nice if Kelly coulda stayed in bounds. He had one guy to beat
Hmm who plays fullback now? Cartright?
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions
pay attention daniel snyder- good lines move the ball when u need them to do so
dont let the inadvertant drives fool you
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:00 PM EST reply actions
Rogers makes himself look bad. He was benched for a reason.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
How does a guy get WORSE
in the next season???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
4 mins to play 4th quarter. CB in the NFL in 09. what should he do?
by clearwatercane on Nov 29, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
i dont like rogers but i cant fault him there. he was stride for stride and the kid made a play
by clearwatercane on Nov 29, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
It was a well-placed throw and nice catch
but Rogers has definitely taken a step back this season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
4-5 plays decide almost all football games
this one is no different
remember when we used to win…we owned the 4th qtr and would ram it down their throats
now we are on the opposite end with our head spinning like we were almost there
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Unfortunately no,
I don’t remember winning. It’s been far too long.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
well..if the O line were good…we would be threatening to score with time running out and the prevent would not come into play until later
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions
You know, I could see Snyder as Vince McMahon.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
I had that role reserved for Cerrato.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
this was set up for one long end game winning drive by us…but we could not move it…cant run block when we need it and very rarely can pass block for more than a couple seconds….so phil assumes that position
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions
ok..second chance
lets see if this line can protect long enough to give the offense a chance
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:10 PM EST reply actions
All of a sudden
DT forgets how to return kicks.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions
1st down- hit as he threw it
2nd down coming up
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions
that was a good attempt- any shorter and intercepted
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions
I wish there was a stat for passes overthrown. JC would dominate.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LATE HIY FLAG???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
It wasn't just late
He spun him and tossed him to the ground.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I know.
I said it WASN’T just late.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Brady would have got that call.
GUARANTEED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
I wouldnt fault JC for just throwing in the towel for this season...
Hes gona get himself killed if he keeps playing
Fehr is fair, but I like Laich
Man. This will be the last game I watch this year. I can’t handle the heartbreak.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions
it was a good effort
by an extremely undermanned team. Something the underachieving Ravens could learn from.
this was another good effort…they are playing hard and much better
the team is poorly assembled and their weaknesses get exploited in crunch time…cant blame them for that
someone needs to tell vinny and danny that u need to field all positions with quality starters and backups
u cant just grab superstars- who inevitably get hurt- and leave gaping holes in the offensive line
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions
Snyder has to see this by now.
He clearly just doesn’t care.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 29, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Frankly
I couldn’t ask for any more out of our offense given all of the injuries we’ve had. 24 points is stellar from this group if you ask me. We are getting everything we could expect from this offense given the circumstances. Putting up more points per game than the starters did when they were healthy and against better opponents.
Defense
Unfortunately our defense has no idea how to protect a lead.
i just dont agree the d is the problem…we went three and out twice with under 7 min left in the game and a chance to win…u just cant keep em out there against good teams
by les boulez bomber on Nov 29, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions
Good Defenses
Win games with an 8 point lead in the fourth quarter. Not the problem but certainly not a bright spot either.
Trade all picks besides our 1st rounder
package up Laron or Carlos
DRAFT TWO O LINEMAN
New Orleans is coming to FedEx
and they’re going to get rick roll’d
So much
For Levi Jones being the answer at LT. He was a turnstyle for the Eagles RE which made it nearly impossible for us to move the ball. Amazing we scored 24 points in spite of his poor performance.
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