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Let's settle the JC dispute...once and for all......

I have found myself recently having to defend myself when talking about Jason Campbell.  I have used the terms serviceable....not the greatest but nor the worst.....etc.  Just to make this clear.....I do not think Campbell is the QB of the future here anymore.  I think I may have at one time but I think this is a case of mis-management that prolly has ruined what could have been a respectable career.  That being said....I want Campbell here next year.....while we rebuild this line....and then can address QB of the future the following year.  Just to settle this out....and maybe I am wrong in my opinion.....but let's see!  milcman....this is for you......to show you, maybe you are the minority in how these games are seen.  Pommylee......this isn't directed at you at all, I am intrigued by your interest in the Skins and have no problem with how you question RYDaddy or my defense of JC!  Just tired of being basically told I am blind, stupid, yada-yada when people can't read a post in it's context!


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How do you feel about Jason Campbell? I ask people to please answer honestly! Feel free to comment on your choice or the results of the poll below!
He has suffered from mis-management and a shotty OL
76 votes
He hasn't had the weapons to get the job done
11 votes
He is an okay QB.....definitely not the worst in the league
49 votes
He is the worst QB ever.....EVER
16 votes

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Campbell is an ok QB

Campbell is an ok QB, who will not lose a team the game. He is the prototypical Joe Gibbs QB, athletic enough he can make and win a game but cautious enough that he won’t lose. He would perform well behind a solid offensive line.
He is not a QB who can lead his team to the playoffs and a Superbowl, as he is not the leader…a solid performer

Which may work well next year, but in my opinion the Redskins cut their losses and provide an opportunity say to a Colt B. a long shot gunslinger who should be no more than a backup but may be able to make magic one year….behind a rebuilding line with a strong defense and good solid offensive weapons.

by dr WNC on Nov 2, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

and if he gets hurt....

which is more than likely! I feel like Campbell would be a good option because:

1) we know what to expect
2) he gives us a better chance of winning while rebuilding (not saying we will)

We have to keep in mind….just because you are rebuilding, doesn’t mean you don’t WANT to be competitive. I think if we let Campbell go, knowing we could use a restricted FA tender, and through Brennan in there, we are giving up on the season and just telling everyone, we are rebuilding…..period. Brennan will not succeed in this league and I will stand behind it until I am proven wrong. He had a magical RC PRESEASON…..but was exposed badly this preseason. Now….if they want to bring in a veteran like Garcia or something (no…..I am not saying he is the answer….just an example) while we rebuild instead of Campbell, I am fine with that as well. I would rather JC get a chance somewhere else! I just think while rebuilding, unless it is our QB of the future (I pray they don’t think it’s Brennan), there is no need to have an unproven comadity back there!

As far as I am concerned…..we should clear the whole QB position…..bring in 2 proven mid-level (cheap) vets….let Brennan sit third string waiting for his ineveitable release…..and staright up rebuild. Bring in the new QB the following year. That gives you the rest of this season to get film on everyone so you know who is staying. Clean house, and you have 2 full offseason’s to work on this OL, and get some of the blown-up contracts out of here before letting a young guy go. I hope Locker stays in another year so we get him in the 2011 draft.

by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry bout the spelling....

trying to squeeze that post in while the boss is around!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I believe Campbell is more than ok

He is not the best QB in the league but he is better than just ok in my opinion. I would like to see him as a Redskin again next year but I honestly do believe that he will shine somewhere else. But everyone is putting so much emphasis on the QB position as if they are forgetting that football is a team sport. 1 person cannot lose or win alone. The way people talk about Campbell really makes me wonder how QB’s like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would do with our offensive line. I doubt they would do as well as they are currently doing. Overall before I get off topic and start ranting more, I want Campbell here next season and believe he will be better QB when he has a better line protecting him.

by BrandonO on Nov 2, 2009 2:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Campbell is

a decent QB who would work well with a good, complete team around him. If everything is going well, he looks good. But he isn’t gonna pull you outta the fire on his own.

I personally think he is the next version of Patrick Ramsey. He had the talent when he got here to get better, but it was never maximized. Just like Ramsey.

Either way though, I think it’s pointless to debate on Campbell anymore. Does ANYONE actually think there is even a REMOTE chance they bring him back? Cuz I don’t. The problem is, if the current FO remains unchanged, then we will just bring in another rookie QB whose potential will be squandered and who will then be sent packing in four years.

by CJHutch on Nov 2, 2009 3:48 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I think we need to keep JC at

almost all costs for the next year or two. Why? He’s serviceable and you know that if we don’t keep him Snyderatto will waste a high draft pick on Tebow or Bradford and cost us valuable draft picks that could be used on the O-line. For better or worse, we need JC until our O-line gets fixed, we get a new RB and our receivers develop. By then, we will truly know what we have and can take a chance on drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round.

So it’s pretty much suck suck for two years, unless the line and WRs come around faster than I expect and Portis gets rejuvenated and JC suddenly emerges as a competent QB and leader. A lot to ask for.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 3, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whether

we should keep him or not, it doesn’t matter. I don’t care WHAT Snyder does in the offseason to change up the FO, he is NOT keeping Campbell.

by CJHutch on Nov 4, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Left Tackle Needed

JC 17 will be a top ten QB for a team with a decent O-line. Look at Kyle Orton he was a dud at Chicago now he is a stud at Denver thanks to a better than average O-line. Imagine if JC 17 was at Denver with that O-line and B. Marshall, E. Royal , K. Moreno and
C. Buckhalter. He would be on ESPN every week throwing touchdowns to Marshall and Royal.

We will be a bad team for years to come until you guys focus on our primary need besides a coach and that is OFFENSIVE LINE. STOP TALKING ABOUT A QB. We need a O- LINE first and foremost !!!!!!!!!!

by LETJASONPASS on Nov 9, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is why I always got 'gentlemans C's" in English

ShvD it appears you think I am down on JC, this is not the case, though no doubt my butchering of a point I was trying to make as led you to this conclusion. So I apologise for the confusion, let me then try to clarify my position

Now as you know I get to actually SEE very few games, so I rely on following the live game tracker on NFL.com (you know the play by play arrows up and down the field) and listen to ESPN980 on the net if its a 1pm game. (Game times for Sydney
1pm game 5am monday
4pm game 8am monday
night game midday monday (tuesday for MNF)

So I have to rely on small amounts of footage, an interpretation of the stats (followed in real time though, which gives you a better idea of his ability to handle the occasion and things than the box score because you get to see if he produces when its needed) and listening to the interpretation fo Sonny and Sam or reading about him and looking at teh highlight clips on NFL.com after the game.

Now Campbell to me has been abysmally treated by the management and there is no doubt our O-line is just plain awful, and I’m not just talking Sacks, ppl try to say that Rodgers at Green Bay has given up more sacks, but a LOT OF THEM ARE RODGERS FAULT, he hangs on to the ball too long and invites the hit, Campbell often is under pressure as he takes his 3rd step on a 3 step drop. Plus I think he throws a beautiful spiral and have seen him make some awesome deep throws, so I feel that if the O-line could buy him time, he would be the perfect, DEEP THREAT TO SET UP THE RUN sort of QB, the guy who you ahve to respect his deep ball, so you cant load the box to stop the run, I think strangely enough he would be a great fit for the Vikings if Favre retires this year.

So in a nutshell, I am pro- JC, but where I think your confusion may have come from, the same reasons I like to give him the benefit fo the doubt, i.e. not been given enough opportunitiy due to a Weak O-Line is the same reason I think we should give Davis, Thomas and Kelly a bit more credit before we write them off…

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 2, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I understood....

What I was saying is that this wasn’t directed towards you because this reply is stemming from another post that your comment started this. I like your posts and considering the limited amount of film and info you may get over there, I think some of your posts are more in touch with the team than some of the posters on here who probably go to the games. This post was strictly for one person, whom I have mentioned multiple times, and whom I don’t appreciate insinuating I need to watch games slower! Keep up the great posts Pommylee!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no worries

but unfortunately my ‘insight’ for want of a better word is predicated too much on comparing and evaluating the comments of others and highlights, so if you go to my "help a skins fan follow his team post’ you may be able to help me make better informed comments.

For example of my knowledge not being where it needs to be, early on I was anti-Zorn cos I thought it was insane to hire a ’learn on the job HC" with a win now roster (whether the talent was there to win now is debatable, the age of the team and the fact it was not a young guys building together team was not"….. then when we won a few games last year I got suckered into the Zorn bandwagon and started to think he was the answer, I held this view for far too long because of his dignity in the face of the treatment he received from Snyder, and I let this judgement of him as a good person affect my assessment of him as a coach, I think it is pretty clear now, that he is in way over his head and is not HC material, certainly not now. I feel if I got to watch more of the games myself I would ahve seen this sooner.
So I appreciate your kind words, but believe me, i still have a LOT and I mean A MASSIVE AMOUNT to learn, thats why I appreciate this site so much, because of the diverse and mainly well thought out views helping to educate me more and more every day

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 2, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We all do.....

that’s all part of being a Skins fan. I am a big fan of the Washington Capitals and other teams in other sports….but being a Skins fan is different, and I think it is for most on here. Everything, good or bad, is so personal. Don’t think that you are any lower than anyone else on here because you hopped on the Zorn bandwagon after the first 8 games last year. Pretty sure all of us did! We are happy to have you as a fan! Wish I could help you get some game film!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2009 7:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JC

The problem with JC is that he waits for his 1st target to get open before releasing the ball. This takes 1-2 seconds longer and prevents him from moving on to his second and third reads. If his primary receiver gets open, he needs to throw a laser to him which requires that big wind-up that he has developed. If his primary does not get wide open, then he is going to his check down too often. If the check down is covered, it is a sack or he is running for his life. He can complete a lot of passes this way, but it limits making big plays and has hindered the development of Kelly and Thomas. When I watch other games, I see the Mannings and Bradys releasing the ball before the primary receiver is open, they are anticipating the receiver getting open and trusting them much more than JC does with his. I also see them throwing the ball away way more than JC (a third and ten does not seem to bother them like it does JC…JC rarely throws it away). Lastly, I see the better QBs trying to put the ball where only their receiver can get to it, even if they are covered. I was hoping that JC would take a step forward with some of these things, but it looks like that has not happened.

by liger99 on Nov 2, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I agree.....

My point of this whole thing is I post something saying JC isn’t the worst QB ever….and certain people, no names (milcman), decide to read an entirely different thing than what I write…then infer that I am retarded and need to watch games slower. My point here is that it could be a lot worse. I hoped Campbell was going to take huge strides this year and it has not happened…..I don’t expect that it will either. That said….he isn’t the worst QB ever, the worst starter in the league, and that it isn’t ALL his fault! Now, I suspect the un-named person I was referring to earlier (milcman) will now reply with…..“Not the worst ever….what games are you watching……look at Aaron Rodgers…..look what he’s done with his line…..blah blah blah”!!!! Let’s not mention that Rodgers has been in the same system for how many years? He got to sit for 3 years behind arguably one of the best QB’s of all time??? Since my opinion can’t be trusted….I decided to put it to a vote….so I don’t have to trade jabs with the douche and they can just see they are being a fucknut to a total stranger bc they have a hard-on for Aaron Rodgers!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 2, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

okay - got it.

Vegas. Go there, it will fix everything.

by liger99 on Nov 2, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. no hard on

But would gladly put Campbell on the practice squad if Rodges were here.
It would be a win win. Our team would start winning and you and Jason get to spend more time together.

Who said you and I would never meet half way in this argument.

"The rich wage WAR and the POOR die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 3, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

the broncos had the choice of campbell or orton for the trade for cutler they wanted nothing to do with campbell enough said

by garyt8 on Nov 3, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....

You know you have made it when you are the villian in a blog post.

"The rich wage WAR and the POOR die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 2, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i was waiting for this post

Mliky got it stuck to ya!! ha!

It was hilarious… i read the last three post on yours and then clicked on Shivd’s..

Man this was great… love the drama- love the passion!!

LONG LIVE JASON!

ps-
my girlfriend said i would be an excellent QB b/c i always have a “quick release”!

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on Nov 2, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahahahaha

Stay out of this Rydaddy. What are you a F****ing ref.

Honestly I was not trying to start any drama. Just wish you guys would pay attention to him. Pay attention next game. His shittiness really shines in the first half.

LONG LIVE JASON! (in Oakland)

"The rich wage WAR and the POOR die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 3, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LMAO

that’s great… “in oakland”… you’re awesome… where in the heck do you even come up with this material… I’m cracking up! I wish I could be that funny!

Keep up the great work Milky!!

JJ Fe

by Rydaddy617 on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

too much drinking

your own milk

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No I understand

At this point we cant afford to let him go next year. our chances of getting a Flacco or another rookie are not worth betting on. He is good enough to carry us until we can get this team where it needs to be.

lets just see how well he does the rest of the season. If we can get a running game good enough to take preasure off of him we might be ok.

"The rich wage WAR and the POOR die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 3, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

makes sense to me and I think you are right on the money.

He’s probably not the QB of the Skins future and most likely will be traded once we get that QB. He was once good raw material, so who knows? JC’s still young and may start making better decisions. Would help if he had an O-line that gave him a little more time. For now though, we don’t have a better option.

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

by GeoFly on Nov 5, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that quick release....

only on play action or when going deep too? HAHA

by shvd98z24 on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

j c,s got to go

you are misguided in thinking campbell is anything other than a backup. the man cant not read defences. if you look at the game film he routinely pulls off recievers to soon locks in on one reciever to much and simply will not throw the ball unless the reciever is wide open, and when they are wide open i e moss deep in the chiefs game and moss again in the philly game on the stop and go as pointed out by jaws, he makes a bad throw.i dont care how many systms he has been in 100 or 1 when he gets to the line of scrimage hes clueless. if the redskins even had garcia we would be no worse than 4-3 now. good by to j c hello to pennington next year and a young back up to groom and hello to better days

by garyt8 on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And then there were two of us.

Welcome to the fight son. Watch out they bite.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is so much fun?

Next week they will be defending Snyder.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 1:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Joking shvd...

I could literally hear your panties getting into a bunch.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3 stats no one notices....

last season when Campbell had the time…. he was the #5 qb on accuracy behind the 2 mannings favre brees. last season the redskins WR also led the lg in dropped balls. Also Campbell was #1 in QBs being knock down and staring at the sky. This has nothing to do with Campbell having to learn a new system every year. It has to do with WR who could not catch and a crappy O line. This season Campbell still has no time and now if he the few times he does have time, the center can not snap a ball or no one can get open. Sure a few times Campbell was to blame for a sack or a fumble, but the oline is the glaring weakness. You know the same oline that Cerrato said was going to be fixed this offseason. I will never lose faith in the Redskins and it is good to see the fans also have not turned on the team. It is even better the fans know who to blame for the past 10 years culminating in this fiasco. And today Snyder says it personally hurt? GOOD. Now you know what you and Cerrato have put us through.

by Shabazz on Nov 4, 2009 1:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

What are you talking about.

Campbell was 15th in pass % not 5th. You said 2 mannings favre brees? Eli did worse than Campbell did in percentage 19th, Peyton 3rd, Brett 5th, Drew 8th. Moss was targeted 137 times rec 79..(which was better than Randy Moss). Randle El targeted 87 times, REC 53…

As a matter of fact. For last year Campbell is not in the top 10 on any stat except for another one that you fibbed about.
SAcks Tied for 4th at 38. nice try though..

I know we are all tired of this argument, but we dont need to make things up guys.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he is refering to.....

The miraculous 6-2 start last year for his stats!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 4, 2009 6:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ahhhh remember those days.

that really shows you what a decent (not even great) oline and a running game can do.

Oh and the fact that they worked together.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I curious where he even got those stats

they dont fit for the first 6 games either.
Maybe thats the reason noone notices those stats. Cause no one knows where to find them.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 4, 2009 6:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's magic......

Shabazz…..poof…..stats……oooohhhhh——aaaaahhhhhh

by shvd98z24 on Nov 4, 2009 7:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

JC Campbell is not a good QB period (.) end of story.

He can not read defenses, looks confused, only throws to wide open receivers, holds the ball too long, steps up into pressure, does not protect the ball, et cetera and so forth…

Did you hear Sonny’s statement about how JC can’t lead receivers? Sonny also said that the balls are either right at the receivers or just behind them almost never in stride…and he’s right.

Argue if you like, but the truth hurts.

by poopo on Nov 5, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

And the voices grow louder....WE ARE LEGION!!!!!

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 5, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah but legion is many, you are just at three right now

by Nobetterthenbob on Nov 9, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even Legion started somewhere.

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 9, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How many legions do you have? Sounds like HIV….may need to get checked out! Just f’ing with you bro! Gotta keep this thing going between us! It’s about the most functional thing that has anything to do with this team right now! HAHA!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 9, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More proof you are a moron

we are talking about LEGION (a multitude of demons or evil spirits grouped into one being) not Lesions( damaged tissue caused by a cancerous tumor). I think you are talking about a contusion what is associated with HIV or AIDS.

However, I would consider you to be a LESION to this board. A festering, puss filled, cancerous wound that infects anything you touch…. lol…JK… ZING

"When the rich wage WAR its the POOR that die!!!"

by milcmann on Nov 10, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We are in a tough spot with the likes of JC

All signs point to the marriage between JC and the Redskins coming to a mutual divorce at seasons end. Untimately this is what should happen, and as many know, why prolong the inevitable. Problem is, our major need in next years draft (O-Tackle), is very weak. I wouldn’t say there is a can’t miss prospect out there like has been the case the past couple drafts. Okung, Williams, Baluga, and Brown may be the best out there, but none are the calibur of a Jake Long, or Jason Smith. However, this years QB class is very strong, assuming Clausen, Locker and Keenum all declare like they should. If we are drafting somewhere in the top 10, we will have an excellent shot at getting one of the 3 elite QB’s (Bradford, Locker, Clausen). We probably wont be able to get the best OT unless we finish with a worse record than Detroit or KC. Our best bet would be to let JC depart via free agency, and select on of the top 3 QB with our first RD pick. With our second RD pick, we should have guys like Ciron Black, Sam Young, Trinton Sturdivant(if he were to declair), Anthony Davis, or the like. We should target (at all cost), Marcus McNeil in free agency. Picking up a guy like Jerious Norwood in FA would make a lot of sense too. In this senerio we could cut ties with guys like Cartright and Betts, and insert Norwood as a great change-of-pace back to portis. McNeil, Dock, Rabach, Thomas and Rookie RT would make up our line. We could choose to give Colt a shot, or plug in our rookie QB right away. Either way, whom ever is behing center will have a better line that we currently have. This also give us two bookend T’s for the next 8-10 years, and our QB of the future now while the pickins are hot.

by Tiller56 on Nov 5, 2009 10:01 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

interesting

only thing that worries me about McNeil is the fact the has has the same thing as Samuels (spinal stenosis). something like that doesn’t go away, and who’s to say that it will take 10 years or so for it to deteriorate like it did with Samuels?

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 5, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like a decent plan

I’m not sure about Randy Thomas at RG with his never-ending injuries, but otherwise I agree. Is Oakland’s RB Michael Bush or Carolina’s Jonothan Stewart going to be available next season?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded

by VA_Skin on Nov 5, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with some of this but not all

I like Cartwright so I’m not letting you get rid of him for example.

But your main point is a very strong one Yes as Skins fans we all know we should ahve been drafting O-Linemen the last few years and what is more annoying is these drafts were very strong classes for o-lines, BUT this next year is a deep QB class (WHICH MAKES IT ALL THE MORE PERPLEXING THAT WE WERE WILLING TO GIVE AWAY OUR PICKS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR A MARGINAL QB LIKE SANCHEZ, but thats a whole other story of shortsightedness and lack of forward planning that deserves its own post) anyway now this class is deep with QB’s so even though we need O-lInemen I agree you draft by whats there and this is a great QB class draft so take the QB in the first round

Then trade/beg/borrow/steal do whatever you have too to try and get a decent Line from somewhere.

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 5, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

so in essence

we’d still end up giving up draft picks to get a first round qb, just so we can get “whatever’s left over” from the o-line pool. which is what we have been doing somewhat the past couple of drafts when we did draft (rhinehart), except we didn’t do it with qb’s who’s potential to bust is so much higher than a lineman.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 5, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

When a GM enters a draft, do they look forward to try and project the next couple of drafts and evaluate is coming up in future drafts, so last year for example did well run teams look at Sanchez and Stafford and say, you know what, we need a QB, but these guys have massive question marks on them and Bradford and Clausen will be stars when they come out next year, so even though we need a QB, we will draft a tackle this year and pick up a QB next time??

Also I dont see us needing to give up picks to get a QB in the first round this year we are looking as though we will pick in the top 6 anyway and detroit wont take a QB as they just got one, KC will stick with Cassell Tampa just took Freeman so they will have to give him a go, who knows what OAkland will do, but I think one of the top 3 QBs will still be available to us in our nominal slot, then we can go O-Line in FA and with our 2nd 3rd and 4th round picks

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 5, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What I meant was

Why end up having to trade draft picks/ players to trade back up to a higher round to get an O-Lineman when we already have a 1st round pick. If our O-line didn’t already destroy 2 promising young QB’s of ours (Ramsey and damn near JC) I’d be all on board with this.

But the fact of the matter is, we’re better off placing our bets on a #1 LT than a #1 QB. Precedence shows that we’d best use that pick for a NEED and one that has a helluva lot better chance of working out than a QB. I know it’s not a sexy pick, I know there’s a chance we won’t have a “can’t miss” QB, but like EVERYBODY on here knows, we don’t need a top flight QB to win. We need to have a top flight O-LINE.

But this is all moot. Danny’s gonna go get one of those qb’s anyway so I guess it doesn’t matter.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 5, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I see what you meant by the trading picks thing, my bad

I would be happy with the OT pick dont get me wrong, i just think if Snyder does go the QB this year maybe it would not be a complete and utter catastrophe

Pommylee

by Pommylee on Nov 5, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not necesarily.....

It all depends on the scouting department…….the only thing unfortunate….next years draft is getting scouted by this years FO! AAAHHHH! This is a deeper draft than the previous years….so you can’t say that we can’t get quality lineman in 2, 4, 5, 7…….but it is always a crapshoot.! I don’t care what anyone says…..every single pick in the draft is a gamble….period. For every pick that was supposedly a lock for a great career that wasn’t…..there has been a head scratcher that was! You just don’t know till a few years afterwards! There is still a hell of a chance that one of last years 3 2nd rounders turns into a star. The catch in everything is the LT position…..it is sooooo important……that if you have a shot at a top guy this year…..it should rank over QB! If we can get a solid one in FA and still get one of the top QBs (I am praying for Locker), that would be ideal. A solid LT with our depth and a potential small splash in FA….could shore up the line relatively quick. We don’t need superstars on the line…..we need guys that can just do their job!

by shvd98z24 on Nov 5, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought

I heard or read that he had a different type of condition than Samuels, although similar, much less severe. Good point non the less

by Tiller56 on Nov 5, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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