Was It Over When the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor? Redskins Defeat Broncos To Keep Season Hopes Alive
Listen...at 3-6, I am not digging around for the keys to the bandwagon. In fact, as much as I want to talk about our strong finishes down the stretch in recent years, the sting of last season's 2-6 finish is still too painful. So I am going to do the best thing I can think of--enjoy the hell out of a home victory and lose myself a little in the euphoria.
There is certainly something to the fact that the Broncos are in a big-time rut right now. They brought in a raw, tentative Chris Simms in the second half and that was helpful to our defense ( to say the least). And for whatever reason, they decided not to throw it to Brandon Marshall on every play (huge mistake). For these reasons and others, I am going to refrain from overblowing the value of the win in NFL terms.
But for Washington fans and players alike, the value of this win is priceless. We have crammed a whole season's worth of drama, intrigue, and shenanigans into 9 weeks. The mounting losses this year have shifted attention to areas and topics away from the field. For better or worse, the win brings the focus of this city right back between the whistles. Despite any of those things I mentioned above with regard to this game, the Redskins actually played well enough to win the game. The game was not handed to them. The numbers don't lie--we dominated our opponent this week. Worthy of a second glance: two penalties, and zero turnovers.
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| 1st Downs | 14 | 22 |
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Passing 1st downs
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8 | 13 |
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Rushing 1st downs
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6 | 9 |
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1st downs from Penalties
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0 | 0 |
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3rd down efficiency
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5-12 | 8-16 |
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4th down efficiency
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0-2 | 1-2 |
| Total Plays | 56 | 70 |
| Total Yards | 305 | 388 |
| Passing | 185 | 214 |
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Comp-Att
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14-31 | 18-27 |
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Yards per pass
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6.0 | 7.9 |
| Rushing | 120 | 174 |
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Rushing Attempts
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22 | 40 |
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Yards per rush
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5.5 | 4.4 |
| Red Zone (Made-Att) | 0-1 | 2-4 |
| Penalties | 4-45 | 2-19 |
| Turnovers | 2 | 0 |
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Fumbles lost
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1 | 0 |
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Interceptions thrown
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1 | 0 |
| Defensive / Special Teams TDs | 0 | 0 |
| Possession | 24:17 | 35:43 |
All week long, I kept saying, "I have a good feeling about this one." To most people who know me, that is like hearing Lindsay Lohan say, "I might have an STD." Of course I had a good feeling. But I found the more people I talked to, the more people I was hearing agree with me. Everyone bought into the "short week/cross country trip/struggling Broncos" argument. The Vegas line shifted towards the Redskins all week long. There was no place where the positive vibe was more apparent however, than FedEx Field. I was a little shocked to be honest. It was loud in there. I didn't think the place was particularly full, but the people who were in the seats came ready to yell and scream. (Though there was certainly some unrest after Brandon Marshall git his second TD of the day...seriously, how do you not just throw it to him on every play against us?)
On the field, Jason Campbell protected the ball. The offensive line played well and Ladell Betts reminded everyone why he has been considered one of the better long relievers in the game in recent history (whether he gets to go for a few more innings or not discussed below.) On defense, Carlos Rogers played himself onto the bench and the defensive line really did a good job of applying pressure as the game progressed. I always get a little giddy when I see Jarmon and Orakpo in the game together, but you know who played a pretty good game yesterday? Andre Carter. He had 7 tackles (5 solo), 2 tackles for a loss, and 1.5 sacks. He had 4 QB hits. Orakpo's stat line is equally impressive (6 tackles, 3 for a loss, and 1.5 sacks), but I found myself watching Carter on more plays than Orakpo. I really respected what Andre did yesterday. I even watched him after the last whistle. He was spent. He couldn't move from his spot, on one knee, for a good 3-4 minutes. I appreciated that even more since I had noted in the second half how hard he seemed to be playing. Haynesworth deserves a lot of credit for the success of our defensive line, but Orakpo and Carter are still out there earning their stats. For those who watched the broadcast yesterday or listened to Sonny and Sam, I am interested in hearing any commentary regarding our defensive ends.
We can't talk about this game without talking about Hunter Smith can we? We showed the fake, called a timeout and then came back out and ran the fake! I was looking for the crane it was going to take to hoist Zorn's balls back to the locker room. At the outset of the season, we identified Hunter Smith as one of our "Irreplaceable Players." Two touchdowns later, he has exceeded my expectations. The pass to Mike Sellers seemed to take an eternity to land in his arms, but when it did, one thought occurred to me: "This is our Lavar play." You know the one...the interception return for a touchdown against the Panthers when we were 0-5 under Marty Schottenheimer.
I still don't know how all this plays out in the offseason, but after that Hunter Smith TD pass, things were different. Holding the Broncos to a field goal before the end of the first half sealed it for me. Closing out the Broncos in the second half seemed like a foregone conclusion--aided immensely by the insertion of Chris Simms into their lineup. Everyone was that confident too, not just me.
I just re-read this thing as I look to wrap it up and get it out. I am wondering to myself if this article is begging to end with some kind of preposterous, open-ended question like, "Is this the win that propels this team to a run at the wild card?" All I can hear is the voice of Chris Rock, after he recounts the story of a dude who gets a G.E.D. and thinks now he can to college. "Slow down! Not so fast!"
Here is what this win does...it gets us to 3-6. The best thing about 3-6 is that it is not 2-7. The difference between the two means little to many of the onlookers from outside our little world here. But to us, it is huge. Enjoy it. We deserve it.
But get it out of your system quickly...Dallas Week begins today.
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I'll tell you why Marshall did not continue to get the ball
Rocky McIntosh’s helmet in his chest. Whatever the circumstances of the victory (slumping denver, chris simms, etc) the Redskins were the more physical team. That was nice to see.
by Smack27 on Nov 16, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hold up for a second
leading up to this game, there were people clamoring for Simms (their preseason hero, sound familiar?) to be the starter. That one article you put up from the Denver newspaper said it as well, and when he got put in everyone is taking away from the good job our defense did after those two clusterfks at the beginning of the game?
Bullsh*t!
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't care what people say
Simms struggled and Marshall got shut down because of the adjustments that Blache, his staff, and the players made.
They tried to back to Marshall deep, and he was covered well. The entire defense played 3 flawless quarters (yes I’m ignoring the long drive to end the half that resulted in a field goal).
by Boo. on Nov 16, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I don’t care about the Simms substitution. First of all, I still remember him dismantling us in Tampa. And second, we don’t have a very good track record against backup QB’s anyway. I will take this win for what it was – our best output of the season, against a quality opponent.
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that Denver article was written by Woody Paige...
Who knows less about football than Vinny Cerrato.
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless
I refuse to take this away from the guys that gave us a COMPLETE football game. That’s just demeaning.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree....
Just saying Woody is a schmuck. Blache and the Offensive staff continue to make great adjustments at half win or lose.
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cool
so I heard there was some sort of wet t-shirt contest after the game? any info on this?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not much to it except that picture I tweeeted...
it was only 1girl in that white shirt with 2 dudes dumping water all over while she danced. Fedex is a lot of fun with weather is warm and they win.
LOADS of miss fedex candidates yesterday
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hate to be the fact check guy, but.............
It was the Japanese that bombed Pearl Harbor!
by tblowe10 on Nov 16, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep, it was the Japanese!
Great game, by the way. I loved to see Betts go through those holes
by Aikidoka on Nov 16, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you really not seen Animal House?
dude…
I mean….
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
by Sugar on Nov 16, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn is doing his media presser now:
I don’t like this mentality of coaching:
Zorn on #26: I won’t want this to be something where Ladell came in and did a wonderful job … and have Clinton lose his job…..if CP does not practice all week long b/c of concussion, ’i will not play him."
RB’s for the Skins, like Betts last week, have until Friday to practice and can rest injuries. Zorn said the ringing is gone from his head, but that some bluriness still is there. Geez….that is a hell of a shot he took.
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you referring to Zorn?
Zorn said the ringing is gone from his head, but that some bluriness still is there.
No wonder they took away the play calling. hehe Would explain a lot of things….. :)
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon-Kool-aid
It could be easy to jump on with a full face frontal.
At 3-6, we have 2 games against the division leader at 6-3
one game remaning with each of the other divisional teams which are 5-4
The Redskins finish 6-1 and could make the play-offs. Don’t see it happening but then who say the team going 2-6 after a 6-2 start last year. Honestly, a .500 football team in need of a good seasoned Head Coach and a new Front office
by dr WNC on Nov 16, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would be ectatic with
2 wins over the girls and a win over the G-men.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously,
take away the 2 WTFs to Marshall and throw out 2 kickoffs that went OB, and this was a blowout.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
um, ok
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK
I’m a bit giddy so humor me while I re-write history – after all Kevin started off with the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
be careful…if you mistake Kevin for Sugar he will lose it
by Sugar on Nov 16, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I was waiting for someone to catch that. I have been laughing forever about it. Hey they need to watch history chanel or maybe should have paid attenion in history/civics class in elementary school.
by LETJASONPASS on Nov 16, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1978 Animal house: IT's not over until it's over speech! Come-on guys
D-Day: War’s over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
Bluto: Over? Did you say “over”? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
Otter: Germans?
Boon: Forget it, he’s rolling.
Bluto: And it ain’t over now. ‘Cause when the goin’ gets tough…
[thinks hard]
Bluto: the tough get goin’! Who’s with me? Let’s go!
[runs out, alone; then returns]
Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst. “Ooh, we’re afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble.” Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this. Wormer, he’s a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer…
Otter: Dead! Bluto’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.
Bluto: We’re just the guys to do it.
D-Day: Let’s do it.
Bluto: Let’s do it!
by dr WNC on Nov 16, 2009 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, Doctor
I just totally relived the 87 times I’ve watched that scene; 45 times if you don’t include the flashbacks.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the 432 times I've seen the Caps play it during live games...
It doesn’t get old.
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really sad that so many people completely missed that reference.
by Boo. on Nov 16, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too Sad cause
It’s the Redskins of today
What happened to the Redskins I knew, why did we get away from Redskins football
Run the ball, setup the pass
Strong Defense.
The offense scores 24 points or more and the Skins win….
by dr WNC on Nov 16, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like that
2 WTFs to Marshall
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everytime
I saw a long bomb after the first quarter I anticipated a wide open Brandon Marshall on the other end, the camara couldn’t get there soon enough.
by skinsfan28 on Nov 16, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget Royal
was W I D E open and Simms missed him. That is the difference in a serviceable QB and a good to great QB. JC misses the big one too much. This game has turned me 100% in favor of drafting Sam Bradford. It sucks, because it was a win!
A commentator made a comment about Aaron Rodgers about him getting shell shocked by how many times he has been sacked and he will never be the same. JCamp is there. QB first round O-line second.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So we can spend millions
on a 1st round QB who will get shell-shocked as well?
No thanks. O-line must be addressed in the 1st round.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Aikman
1-15 first year. Don’t pass him up.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't get his Larry Allen, Nate Newton and Erik Williams, there's no point
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So they took all of the line in the same draft?
Build a foundation. Get the stud QB. Suck for two years. Grab a tackle in the SECOND ROUND. Next year, Take a FIRST ROUND GAURD. In the second, go get a RB or ANOTHER GAURD. Who really wants to actually win or just bitch about sucking?
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have your rounds mixed up
in the first place. The tackles come in the 1st, guards generally in the 2nd. Why not have the solid O-line in place and get the stud QB later? On 2nd thought, who really needs a stud QB? A solid oline will make most QBs into studs.
I think you might just be a cowgirls fan in disguise, trolling around our otherwise decent and upstanding online community.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about solid Lines will help an average QB
But, JC is toast. The three names you tossed at me prove your theory useless. You are another negative fan who relishes in losing so you feel fulfilled by complaining about your misery. Be part of the solution or leave.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, A solution anyway
“Be part of the solution or leave.”
You mean THE solution, the one you want. There’s more than one way to skin a cat. If they do have a capless season next year, I would have no problem with the team using the season to clear out salary cap deadwood and giving JC a one year contract (he’s not a FA unless a new bargaining agreement is struck). JC becomes a caretaker QB in there to absorb the hits while they rebuild other problem areas. Of course, first clear out Dan’s cousin Vinnie.
“Get a franchise QB” is an easy thing to call for, and hard to do. Snyderatto panted after Sanchez and Cutler, and there’s no way you can’t say JC isn’t outplaying them both. Sanchez may have upside, but that’s all it is right now. JC is A problem on the team, but he’s not THE problem, or even the #1 problem.
by d_c_guy on Nov 16, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
A solid oline will make most QBs into studs.
JUST LIKE AIKMAN. There is no doubt in my mind that he would have been a run of the mill QB if not for that line. Same with Emmitt. That was one of the best lines ever. Aikman was not that spectacular. He was accurate yes. But his poinse, leadership, etc? All that is easy to have playing behind a force field.
Anyway, we need to build our line before we put any young QB behind it. Anyone who thinks otherwise need look no further than this franchise, and our LAST TWO 1st round QB’s. Ramsey and Campbell both played behind turnstyle lines from the start here, nd both underachieved. As will any young QB. There’s no point in drafting another QB to come in here, get cheered for 2 years, then booed the last year, then leave. Time to break the trend.
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
O.K I think I am wrong about this.
but, crap am I pissed about all of the over throws.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too
I’ve been backing Campbell all year. And not because I think he’s all that great, just because I think he’s our best option right now. And, while I still think that, I look forward to the day we have an accurate QB behind center. I mentioned this once during the game – I’m not sure Campbell couldv’e connected on that pass that Hunter threw. Let alone the ones that Orton threw. Sure, he’s got a cannon for an arm. But his “sights” are off. I think the broad sides of all barns in the DC/Metro area are pretty lucky with him around.
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JC would of hit Sellars in the endzone, and Sellars wouldn’t of had to wait for the ball either. JC’s not the most accurate but he would of most definitely made that throw.
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to think so
but I can also envision Sellers running full bore trying to catch up to the ball, only to have it go out the back of the end zone.
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But, Honestly, I love JC
I hate to turn on him. He is such a class act. But, COME ON!!!!!!!!!
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JC is inconsistent
Some weeks he hits that deep ball to Santana, some weeks he doesn’t. It was amazing to watch Brady and Manning last night by way of comparison. Holy shit those guys are good.
by Smack27 on Nov 16, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady
6th round pick.
Just sayin’…..
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tom Brady also has arguably the best offensive line over the last decade and some of the best receiving corps over that same timeframe. Danny Wuerfful would be a stud on that team.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 16, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better example:
Matt Cassel was a stud on that team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
by hibachi on Nov 16, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perfect arguments
for getting the stud tackle in the 1st round this April instead of the big-name QB.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's unfortunate
that it’s even an argument that needs to be made.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are right...
I do love JC. I would love for him to be our savior. I am sorry for wanting to give up on him. He does really need some help. Also, just have the players play with passion. Hard hits, hard blocks, hard funs. We will be fine.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Many think
that last year and this year his line is only so so – busted up knee as evidence to that. The rookie Vorman at LT was doing a number on what’s his face (from Syracuse), though. Had they not had Mathis on the other side, NE wins in a blow out.
You could tell they hardly had a running game to speak of; just slightly better than Colts no running game.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
was sooooo impressed with that Vorman
last night, my god he was good, I would just love someone to get a tape of vorman last night run in a split screen with that game of Winston Justice where Omenyiora got 6 Sacks from a few years ago and show it to Vinny, just to drive home the importance of O-Line play
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats the one!!!
hes a german so as an englishmen I dont find it important to remember or ackowledge his names correct pronunciation, spelling or anything :)
wouldnt say that to his face after wathcing him last night though, impressive!!
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what is with brits and germans?
my wife doesn’t seem to hold britons in such high esteem either. why?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 17, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1914-1918 & 1039-1945
had an impact, but also there have neem crucial World Cup (soccer) games over the years, Penalty Shoot out losses and the like that keep the rivalry fresh
we still hate the French more though!!!! :)
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 17, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I once wrote
a short story about a birthday party in Germany. Someone puts on some marching band music and the whole party goes off to invade France. Trouble is it was a B-day party for a 14 yr old girl – but they win!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 17, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that our line is suspect number one and needs to be addressed first, but i’m also of the opinion of keeping JC. But if you are still looking for a franchise quarterback, you need to take him first. QB’s are around alot longer than lineman. Build the line around a young franchise quarterback so that they peak at the same time (hopefully).
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IF there's a franchise QB there, take him first
But do you really trust this outfit to get a Peyton Manning, when they could draft a Heath Shuler, Alex Smith, Ryan Leaf, etc?
Rebuilt the line and make a situation that allows a solid QB to play well, like Mark Rypien did.
by d_c_guy on Nov 16, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right
it’s easier to find a passable QB than it is to find a passable OL, IMO
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stick with JC
a known quantity that can still improve; although electro-shock therapy may be needed to calm his nerves.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does the Franchise QB get the team
Nothing more than a top tier line.
Get the line and the Avg QB will play like a Franchise QB for a year or two
Keep the line and a team could win maybe 3 superbowls.
by dr WNC on Nov 16, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Erik Williams, 3rd round, Larry Allen 2nd Round and Nate Newton was cut by the Skins.
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Personally I think we should put all the other pieces in place first
get a nice mid-level caretaker QB, and develop all the other talent before drafting a 1st round (expensive) QB
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
then you have to wait for the QB to develop while everyone else is already in place.
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's definitely a timing thing
we’ll have to take the best player at these key positions as they are available and affordable. Makes no sense to pass up on a really good QB prospect just because we are short one near All Pro lineman.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
you have a run-first offense, where you open up the offense as the QB gets more comfortable.
Like they did in NY (Jets and Giants), Atlanta, Baltimore, and Denver (before trading Cutler), to name a few teams with good offensive lines and good offenses
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let them all
bond around the training table with splints and sutures everywhere.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
What are these fools thinking ?? You can win a super bowl with good defense and a good Offensive line. You just need a average quarterback. Ask Trent Dilfer.
by LETJASONPASS on Nov 16, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see your point.
Unless you knew there were 2 big plays, that stat line does not suggest a 10-point margin of victory.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What's really cool
is that their QB was on a 400yd 4 touchdown pace and then we totally shut them down for 2.75 Qtrs. They actually had negative yds passing in the second half.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who was that offensive line and where did they come from?
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
we flew NE’s O-Line down and put them in ‘Skins’ jerseys.
But seriously, if they do do well in the long run, I pray they don’t take it as something that doesn’t need further attention in the draft.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"We feel we have a playoff O-line"
-Vinny Cerratto. (paraphrased, of course)
He obviously foresaw the mid-season acquisition of Levi Jones. He was a monster yesterday. Elvis who?
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he did, and I'm ecstatic over it
but this is exactly what has been done before. People get blinded for a while because of success, and just gloss over the reason why we were down in the dumps in the first place.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hunter the Punter Rules
Absolutely the best “trick” play I have ever seen – what with the “fake confusion timeout” after showing them the front half diversion to the real play. Priceless!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And to think
I was in disbelief this week that we released a punter with a 50.0 yard average.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're forgiven
just don’t let it happen again
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for everyone
Hunter Smith was almost put on IR this past week. If he doesn’t start this week vs DEN, skins more likely than not lose his game. The momentum absolutely changed on that trick.
Is this play the Lavar int in the Marty 0-5 year?
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I expect we'll find out in the next few games
but it certainly feels like it
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Halftime of Atlanta Game
Is where I noticed a complete turnaround in the play of our offense. It was the halftime of the Atlanta game where Zorn and Buges went off on the players and questioned their manhood. Ever since then the offense has looked good.
Unfortunately it may be too late to salvage this season. We need to draft several O-linemen sign some DBs and LBs in the off-season. Cut Santana and Portis and get younger offensively.
by Kurtstack on Nov 16, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not financially viable, unfortunately
Cut Santana and Portis and get younger offensively.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 16, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if its an uncapped year
we can restrucure their deals so that we pay them the whole lot in that year (who says no to getting more money sooner) and then we can either keep them or let them go as they would be league minimum for the years of their contract that are in Capped Years once the deal gets done
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup. that's the only way it happens
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Nov 17, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure we're
going to the playoffs, but I think the caliber of our play, especially on offense – leapt up about 2 flights of stairs. Like Smutsboy1 said, “Who were those guys?”
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But it would be awesome to see
this team play to its potential. And then what? Do we dismantle the “bomb?” Zorn stays?
I say that if we are .500 at the end of the season"
Keep Zorn and Campbell
Ditch Portis
Trade Cooley for needed draft picks
KillFire Vinny no matter what
Draft O-linemen and D-backs and LBs
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Scott...I don't disagree at all
The one thing I would add…Ladell might be a valuable trading chip too. I would pick up a draft pick for him if I could. Why not? We can draft a couple rb’s in the 4th and 5th rounds this year and next to try and bridge the gap.
If he continues to show up, let a team give us a draft pick for him.
by Sugar on Nov 16, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As long
as we get fair value. We don’t do that much when we do trades. Not sure why Snyder is so charitable when dealing with other teams, but ruthlessly capitalistic with the fans?
If Betts is healthy at the end of the season, one reason to keep him would be because he knows the system and is not much of a fumbler – 2 things we don’t know about a potential replacement.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you Sugar...BUT
I think the biggest determinent on how long a RB has left is not so much age as miles in the trenches.
If we get a top College RB who has had a bunch of carrys for 4 years he may only have 4 or 5 good years in him anyway before the inevitable fast decline of the RB sets in…
whereas the relatively rested Betts may still be good for 5 years of good play as he has not accumulated many miles or hits in the last few years, so why trade a proven commodity (Betts) for the potential of a Draft pick if you are only going to get about the same number of years from them anyway???
not saying i neccesarily disagree with you, just rasing it as food for thought..
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the biggest determinant
for how long a RB has left is number of interviews given in costume.
by CarverM on Nov 17, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally thought that was hilarious
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 17, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
But keep Cooley. The biggest beauty on the team.
by SSBlitz on Nov 16, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have a thing for blondes...
with broken ankles?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Cooley a lot...
but we still need a blocking TE and that’s not him and it’s not Freddy – it’s Yoder – and Yoder can catch, too! So either Freddy or Cooley should leave IMO.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ankle, knee, hip
anything that’ll slow ’em down…
/going to hell.
by Boo. on Nov 16, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
finally got my Hogs Haven laugh of the day
thanks!
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Should I not start Dallas D in fantasy next week?
by brettpedigo on Nov 16, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy or your dreams?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that has
yet to be seen. But I DO know that you can make the case that Hunter the FOOTBALL PLAYER was one of the best free agent aquisitions EVER for this FO. I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but think about it. He is probably one of the 2 or 3 most versatile guys on our team right now. And our new “Wild-Hunter” formation could be a real boon for us in the coming weeks. Realistically, they probably won’t go back to it (I mean, it works, so what’s the point of using it more than once?). But they COULD use it to their advantage. At the least, teams will have to rethink their punt and FG teams against us.
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
nice thought. He has given us more offensive production than Vick has given the Iggles.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
brilliant Carver!!!
that thought had not come close to crossing my mind, GENIUS!!
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Wild Hunter" +10
and a bag of spears. Awesome.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hutch
You were pushing for Mitchell (a7th rd pick) early in the season and he has performed well with his limited opportunities.
No one has mentioned it, but when the team reduced from an 80 player roster, most of the rookie were picked up by other teams. Some good scouting in the preseason could help the Skins rebuild their roster if they act immediately after the cut downs. It would be nice to carry a few OL projects for a few years. It hard to keep the good ones on practice squads.
by Jefferson1935 on Nov 16, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Davis was not on the field when they started running the play and he was the fake target, so they took a timeout to get him on the field. Without him there isn’t really a go to guy, so they would have payed more attention to Sellars.
Maybe they made Fred stay on the sidelines to make it seem even more like it was going to him? But Zorn said the timeout was taken specifically because Fred wasn’t on the field and he was supposed to be.
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure if that
blows up my perfect world scenario; but I give Zorn props to sticking with the play even after the timeout. It amounted to genius in a sense.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game made me feel good about our redshirts as well.
They didn’t get a whole lot of looks, but they sure did make the most of the few opportunities they were presented. It was good to see MK blocking downfield on a long Betts run too.
Devin Thomas is a beast.
I remember getting really excited when we opened in a three receiver set, with 11 and 12 split wide on either side, and 89 in the slot. That was a beautiful sight.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
oh man...
that feeling did not escape me either. that 3-receiver set was a total JIMP moment.
by Sugar on Nov 16, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also
felt the need to point it out to everyone around me every time Marko stepped on the field.
by CarverM on Nov 16, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Carver what is it with you and Marko???
it makes me laugh every time, (not saying he is a bad player or anything) its just every time you get a chance you bring him up, its classic
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 16, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still
would’ve loved to see Marko thrown to in the red/end zone. But after this game, I am a firm believer in Devin Thomas. I will readily admit that I had him pegged as a bust. Sure, one game doesn’t mean much, but that one play did to me. There aren’t many receiver in the league who can make that play. One of them was on the other sideline killing us in the 1st quarter. gain, I don’t want to over hype one play, but that run after the catch by Thomas was a Marshall/T.O/A. Johnson/ A. Boldin/ C. Johnson type play. And that Kelly grab reminded me of Reggie Wayne. So, can we PLEASE get these guys the ball from here on out to see what they can REALLY do?
by CJHutch on Nov 16, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree completely.
I get excited thinking back to it.
by SSBlitz on Nov 16, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really Gemany
Maybe I missed something in this article….Germany…..Pear Harbor???
by diehrd on Nov 16, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Someone already tried to correct it, but it’s an Animal House reference.
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know what
What is this world coming to? How is Animal House not the first thing a growing boy is made to watch? First, you treat yourself like an amusement park to the scene where he is starring in the window and then you learn every line in the movie and quote it until your voice goes out. The movie is 30 years old and still relevant.
by monk81 on Nov 16, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was always more of a ......
Porky’s guy!!!
by shvd98z24 on Nov 16, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say
That was the most fun I’ve had at a Redskins game in quite some time. Man the experience is so much better when you play well and win.
by Kurtstack on Nov 16, 2009 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WE WANT DALLAS!!
WE WANT DALLAS! No chance really on a “wild card” spot. Spoiler is our game now…
Yes, we want Dallas!
by Fundamental Baseball on Nov 16, 2009 4:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
We do have
two shots at Dallas, and they tend to get worse as the year goes along. Why not beat them twice and see if we can make some things happen?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Nov 16, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Doug Dutch
was signed to our practice squad for those of you that care.
by travisjh86 on Nov 16, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the CB that's from this area right?
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Nov 16, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My almer mater....Gonzaga High school.
I spoke with Doug’s parents at camp. Doug used to sell hot dogs at Fedex Field when he was younger…great story.
by KevinE on Nov 16, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jenali Jenkins?
now that would be a good local signing….ah, draft pick.
by liger99 on Nov 17, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
artmonk4ever cares
Yeah….from this area.
by Ken Meringolo on Nov 16, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playoffs?
Hell no! But, it is cool to see how one victory can bring the whole city back together again. This would be a great time for the Danny to gouge us with some other absurd expense. I am not sure what it will be, but everyone needs to stay on the lookout. That little troll is tricky.
by www.BravesOnTheWarpathDC.com on Nov 17, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dallas RT Colombo and FS Hamlin are out
I have not seen this mentioned yet and at least Colombo being out is huge. Hopefully Haynesworth plays so they can’t give too much help to the backup RT. GB really shutdown the Dallas O without Colombo. We should see a lot of pressure on Romo this week.
by liger99 on Nov 17, 2009 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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