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Lavar Arrington: Redskins are losing because we aren't CHOO CHOO enough

Watching the DeAngelo Hall scrum during the Falcons game with (what appears in retrospect as) their entire sideline, it did not cross my mind that the thing wrong here was a lack of Redskins uniforms, in large part because:

3-3-ATL 40 (1:37) (Shotgun) 2-M.Ryan scrambles right end ran ob at ATL 44 for 4 yards (30-L.Landry). PENALTY on WAS-30-L.Landry, Unnecessary Roughness, 15 yards, enforced at ATL 44. Penaltyon WAS-92-A.Haynesworth, Unnecessary Roughness, declined.

Count me among those who desperately think this team is lacking something right now, be it passion, talent, or coaching. But one of the few jerseys that did show up to the party on Hall's behalf ended up with a penalty. At the time I thought little of the incident beyond 'this is what a frustrated, 2-5 football team looks like when they're down 21-3 heading into the half and the bad guys are about to score.'

Having watched the incident again, more than once, I was a little struck both by the dearth of teammates defending Hall and the unusually long amount of time it took them to appear. See for yourself after the jump:

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Admission: I kind of have a soft spot for vigilantes, particularly those who enforce on behalf of friends or teammates, so the lack of Redskins jerseys does piss me off a bit. However, the real bad actor here is LaRon Landry, who gets pegged with the late hit. All that happened subsequent is superfluous because Haynesworth's penalty was declined. If Landry lets Matt Ryan trot off the sideline at his own 43 (would that have been the "passionate" move, I wonder?) the Falcons are 1st and 57 to go to the endzone as opposed to 1st and 41. Difference maker? Probably not: we lost by 14. But watching the above video, I will happily conclude that Landry's late hit frustrates me more than the resulting bedlam, or lack thereof.

Lavar Arrington thought differently. With a hat tipped Bog's way:

If you didn't hear LaVar Arrington's full-throated condemnation of the Redskins' defense Monday afternoon, it's worth a listen. He started off his show on 106.7 The Fan just screaming at the top of his lungs about the lack of heart when DeAngelo Hall got caught in that scrum on that Falcons' sideline. His complaint wasn't about the late hit by LaRon Landry or about Hall's actions, but about the fact that Hall was left by himself as the Atlanta net closed in.

My favorite Arrington quotes from the entire affair, emphasis added:

"Every time you want to think about what type of defense we have, just pull that clip up[.]"

(You mean, #1 passing defense in the league? Top 10 total defense? I'm not saying we're as good as our stats, given our soft schedule, but if there's anything in Washington that is not broken right now, it's the defense.)

"That's a coach grabbing on my teammate, that's the head coach pushing on my teammate, saying I'm gonna kick your [behind]. I am running in that pileup head on, 100 miles an hour, let's go, CHOO CHOO! I don't care if I've got to walk in the locker room after that. I don't care. That's heart. We're playing with heart. I saw no heart. I saw no heart. I saw no dedication, no accountability for my fellow man out there on that field, and it came from the side of the ball that I would have never thought it would have came from."

There might be a lot in Arrington's rant that has many a Redskin fan nodding his/her head. Does this team lack heart? Hell if I know, but they're certainly lacking something. But based on the reactions of the zebras, I don't think a lack of heart is where I'd point the finger after the play.

Anyways, Deangelo Hall, for his part, agreed with Arrington, if in a muted manner. Arrington wanted "disappointment":

"You know what, not disappointment," Hall said. "Like I said, it was a little bit disheartening, but disappointment is probably a little bit too big of a word that I'm prepared to throw out there. Like I said, some guys are just built different, and like I told LaVar, I'm fiery, wear my emotions on my sleeve, try to leave 100 percent out there on the field at all times. I can't speak for everybody else and their mindset and how they approach the game, but I know for me, that's just kind of how I am, that's kind of how I've always been."

I loved Lavar Arrington, he was a bright spot on some Redskins teams that I considered, at the time, to be pretty mediocre. (In hindsight, who wouldn't want to be on track for an 8-8 season?) But for all his apparently much needed passion, Arrington was 37-42 in games he accumulated stats. I don't say this to dump on one of my all time favorite Redskins, but to suggest that maybe more is needed to win games than mere passion.

What's the point? Lavar Arrington is making an observation on talk radio about the lack of support the defense had for one of its members, then surrounded by enemy uniformed soldiers physically accosting him. Pretty fair point. After reviewing the video, even I thought it strange that Haynesworth and others showed up to the fight so late. Having said that, there is a lot broken with this football team right now, much of it potentially institutional, and fans will do the team few favors by chasing down windmill bogey-men shaped as a giant lack of passion, whatever that looks like. As we contemplate the future of this team and examine crucial issues, such as the future of our current coach, or the name and curriculum vitae of the next one, we should focus holistically on what this team needs to win more than two games a season. Our alleged lack of heart is one of a million red herrings that will inevitably fit into a narrative about what coach gives us the best chance to win in the future. Do we need a player's coach or an Xs and Os guy? False dilemma?

This is what happens when you're down in the NFL. Everyone has an opinion as to why, but at 2-6 against one of the worst schedules in the league (although by some measures I'm not certain we're as bad as everyone says) if it feels like there are a million things wrong -- players? play calling? passion? -- it is probably the case that there isn't precisely one thing wrong. If it were so "clear and simple" why we can't win, then we'd have stumbled upon the clear and simple solution by now.

Some problems are complicated enough to require more than head-butting choo choo trains. As the season goes on and if/when the losses continue, speculation will be legion as to why/how/who/what has gone wrong with our beloved 'Skins. In answering that quandary, I say we stick to the measurables -- penalty yards, for instance -- before pointing accusatory fingers at the size of our player's hearts. It is tempting but cheap, in my opinion.

But what do I know?

Poll
Lavar Arrington should...
Pipe down.
36 votes
Who cares?
89 votes
SUIT UP, GET ON THAT SIDELINE AND CHOO CHOO ALL OVER THE PLACE; BRING BACK LAVAR
152 votes

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I'll have to agree with Lavar.

The time it took for some Redskins to get down there is depressing. I know that if it’s my team, like Lavar, I’m getting in there and defending my teammate who is mugged by 15 or so Falcons. That’s why I really respect Haynesworth. He got in there and he moved that pile back. haynesworth really isn’t getting enough credit for not quitting on his team. He’s gone from 13-3 to 2-6 and he’s still doing everything we’ve paid him to do and more. I know it was really annoying to see him on the sideline so often early on in the season, but he’s a real force and it’s a shame that other guys on this team aren’t following his lead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 AM EST reply actions  

good point about Haynesworth

with all the criticism people (myself included) were leveling at him when we signed him, you would have expected him to quit on this crappy-ass season, but he hasn’t.

well done, AH

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

+92

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded

by VA_Skin on Nov 12, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy to see Tryon there.

But where was Landry?? Why did it take him so long to get there??

The hit was late, but it wasn’t bad, it wasn’t that late, and it wasn’t rough. There should have been a call, but there was no need to the Falcons to react that way.

Where was the flag on the bench?? They pushed and surrounded Hall. Tryon had to dig him out (the refs too). That was uncalled for and no one seems to make crap out of that. Haynesworth gets a flag but there are 10-15 Falcons on the field at that time. Come on?

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by matthiasstephan on Nov 12, 2009 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Actually,

it was pretty dang late and a stupid play to boot. Still, no call on the bench? I agree. There was a lot of provocation going on down there starting with the fitness coach and then with Smith.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Also agree

Where are my teammates and AH has been a plus for us.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it WASN'T "pretty dang late"

Look at it again in slow motion; Ryan didn’t even get one foot out of bounds before he was hit, and Landry was already in the air (launched) before Ryan went out (though his vector said “I’m going out”, we’ve been burned by that EXACT move already this season, where the QB pulls up just short of the sideline, then races back up).

So, from that perspective, I’m not even sure it should have been called when reviewed in slow motion (though I can see calling it at speed). OTOH, the Falcons bench was inexcusable; it’s obvious they mugged Hall, and if the league doesn’t hand out fines, if I were him I’d swear out warrants for assault, as they had NO right to do anything there.

by BillWard on Nov 13, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it's cool dude

fines were handed out yesterday

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by Rekka on Nov 13, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Right afterwards...

Landry just bolts away, as if nothing had happened. Basically just completely vacates the area, and so quickly that I’m not sure he even noticed that Hall was getting mobbed.

One of the reasons I love Landry so much is because he hits like a dump truck. You would really expect a guy like that to be the 1st or 2nd guy to a fight, right? I’m with you, a little confused why he didn’t return more quickly, particularly since he basically started it.

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by Skin Patrol on Nov 12, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Landry was gone

As soon as Hall got there to get Landry out of a bad situation, Landry turned around and forgot that everyone on the Falcons hates D Hall!! Then he had to go back there once he saw that Tryon was trying to help Hall. Once Hall gave him a path out, he should have grabbed Hall and pulled him with him.

I don’t understand how Haynesworth gets flagged there. He had a right to be on the field and all those guys grabbing Hall and shoving him (including coaches for God’s sake!) did not. Yes, he shoved them. But the refs shouldn’t penalize him for that; they should thank him for doing their damn job!

Seriously, while Hall should not have been the guy going over there trying to keep the peace, at least one person from Atlanta needed to get thrown out of the game. Two coaches (including Mike Smith) grabbed him by the shoulder pads. How do you expect a guy to walk away when he’s completely surrounded and being held?! You’re not his teammate. You don’t have a right to touch him.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
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by kseandoyle on Nov 12, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

GOOD!

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not enough

The refs should have been fined, too, because they acted in a VERY one sided manner on a call that was questionable to begin with, and it may have effected the course of the game.

by BillWard on Nov 13, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Lavar

Tough to know what to make out of the situation. Could be no one in the locker room gives a rat’s ass about DeAngelo. In Lavar’s day it was probably a tighter knit group—he talks about his old teammates with a lot of affection. But still, for better or worse, you gotta get in there and mix it up when one of your guys is in that situation. I was excited to see some fire in D Hall—lost the spark when I saw him whiff on Turner in the second half. Landry too. Inexcusable.

by Smack27 on Nov 12, 2009 1:23 PM EST reply actions  

Got to agree with him

Normally, I’m rolling my eyes at what Lavar has been saying about the Redskins. But usually, he’s talking about management and ownership and, while I agree with his general premise, I hate that he always finds a way to make it all about the way he left the team. You’re right, Lavar. No one in the history of the NFL has ever had disagreements with his coordinator. No one has ever been asked to come off the bench while rehabbing from injuries. No one has ever changed teams because the scheme wasn’t a good fit for him. You’re the first and only, and we should all still care.

ANYWAY, that being said, I agree with him here (probably b/c he’s just talking about on-the-field stuff). Guys should have gotten over there a lot sooner. Credit the DBs for helping each other out (Tryon was the first, followed by the return of Landry, followed immediately by Horton). But then by the time anyone else gets there, Hall has become a f***ing prisoner-of-war! I’ll credit Haynesworth for making up for it by ending the situation completely with that push, but after that, the rest of the DL and the LBs are in the dog house for this. Maybe a couple of guys were being moved around for subbing and such, maybe Fletcher had gone to talk to Blache about strategy and what-not… Maybe. I don’t buy their excuses, though. Everyone on our defense should have been keeping an eye on Hall after every play — they knew this was an emotional game for him.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 12, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

It seems that it was

just as much an emotional game for Atlanta, even though Hall’s beef really was with Petrino. My take is they were looking for an excuse to go after Hall who should have known they might try something, especially after we roughed their QB.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

true

nevertheless… if he had been right there and hadn’t helped out his teammate and something had still happened, he would have looked like the biggest coward in the world. In the end, he has to be a good teammate, even if it means angering his old teammates.

"One-on-one? You can't." -Gilbert Arenas
JC Bandwagon all day!

by kseandoyle on Nov 12, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

no surprise here

another former Redskin with an axe to grind. If any of those guys would have been kicked out then we would ne saying where is the self control.

The Rod has spoken

by Rodskin on Nov 13, 2009 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

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