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Redskins' Coach Watch: Russ Grimm Might Be Our Guy

The next Redskins head coach?
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In Part One, we reviewed Mike Holmgren's persona as the next Redskins' coach, which left me far from impressed. Continuing through the classified ads, the next stop is Russ Grimm, who currently holds the following titles with the Arizona Cardinals: Assistant Head Coach, Running Game Coordinator, and Offensive Line Coach.  There is a lot to cover with the former Hog, so if you're at work and feel mother nature calling, print it out and take it to the can with you. 

Moving on...I spoke with Charles, the Editor of the SB Nation Arizona Cardinals community, Revenge of the Birds (ROTB), regarding Russ Grimm's coaching and talent evaluation skills. After the jump, I reveal my Russ Grimm conversations with David Elfin of the Washington Times, Rich Tandler of Real Redskins, Mark Newgent of the Examiner, and Ben Folson of the Curly R, all who have a lot of knowledge from Grimm from his playing days with Washington and his coaching days in Washington during the Norv era. We had a nice debate with the outstanding concerns, and Mark adds a fantastic Grimm story from his playing days, but first, my chat with the Cardinals' media:

Hogs Haven: Russ Grimm is a fan favorite in DC being one of the original Hogs. As a coach, he has been a winner everywhere he's been (Steelers and Cards Super Bowl run last year). What stands out to you regarding his play-calling, relationship with players, motivations skills that  would make him a good or bad candidate for a head coach? He seems to get overlooked as a head coach every year.

ROTB: It is fairly common knowledge that Grimm is well liked and very respected by his players, especially his offensive lineman. He has the knowledge and experience to back up everything that he's trying to teach his guys. He's never called plays (here or any stop in the past) and he's never been a true coordinator. He shares the co-coordinator title which means that he's involved in the development of a game plan throughout the week but his actual involvement during the game is somewhat of a mystery. As a head coach I would envision him as something in between a "players coach" and a "disciplinarian" and I would guess that he'd prefer somewhat of a run-first offense. Some say he's been passed over as a head coach but he's never been a true coordinator and normally the step before becoming a head coach.

Hogs Haven: Did Russ Grimm contribute at all to the draft class this year [for the Cards]? The Steelers obviously have a lot of success with their picks, although ironically not with their offensive line.

ROTB: As far as his prowess as a talent evaluator, your guess might be as good as mine. The only time I've ever heard or read of him "signing off" or "approving" of a draft pick was when they took Levi Brown in 2007. As the story goes, Grimm worked out Brown individually at Penn State's pro day and came away thinking that Brown was better than Joe Thomas. That evaluation looks awful foolish now but that was the Cardinals story after the draft so take it for what's it worth. Despite the drafting of Levi Brown the Cardinals offensive line has improved quite bit so maybe that's a testament to his ability to develop talent.     

Hogs Haven: If you were Dan Snyder, would you have any hesitations making Russ Grimm your head coach?

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ROTB: That's a tough question. I honestly like Grimm and I think he could build a tough, run-based team that would turn into a winner. That being said, I wouldn't take him over Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Bill Cowher or Mike Holgrem so I'd consider him a fall back option at best. Just to throw a bit of curve ball at you though, if you're interested in Cowher it might not hurt to bring Grimm in as your offensive coordinator.     

I don't think it's a coincidence that Grimm is successful everywhere he goes; however, Mangini and Charlie Weis have struggled once they were given full control. No one expects Russ Grimm to be the All-in-One savior though. Mike Tomlin and Mike Singletary both never had Offensive Coordinator or Defensive Coordinator roles in their careers. Why can't Grimm be in the same position as them where the new Redskins GM (not named Cerrato) works with Grimm to pick a good fit.

I emailed the Redskins elite for their opinions:

Mark Newgent (Examiner): As far as play calling experience goes, Grimm doesn't need to be the play-caller--the Ravens brought in Cam Cameron to call plays for Jim Harbaugh.

There's another aspect where I believe Grimm would have an enormous effect: discipline.  The Redskins--even under Gibbs 2.0--have played really undisciplined football: stupid penalties, to poor tackling etc... Grimm would put an end to all that. 

I remember going to training camp up in Carlisle in 1992, Grimm's first year as an assistant to Gibbs.  Just prior to practice players were milling around the end zone catting and joking around. Out of nowhere a huge Ford Bronco--not the little one the big curb stomping mini-monster truck-- drives up right into the middle of end zone.  Players scatter and stare.  Grimm steps out of the driver's seat, pulls a wad of chewing tobacco from his mouth, chucks it to the ground and says "let's hit it."  The players jumped to attention and got to practicing. 

That's kind of gravitas Grimm has, and is sorely needed in Ashburn.   

David Elfin (WaTimes): While Russ is a legitimate head coaching candidate in the league and a link to Washington's glory days, I would be surprised to see Dan Snyder hire a second straight coach who had never even been a coordinator. The caveat would be if Snyder's millions can lure another big-name coach like Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher to the Redskins.

Ben Folsom (The Curly R): So in all this why did Russ Grimm's phone never ring: simple. Dan Snyder knows Russ Grimm is eventually a loser for him. Russ is a sympathetic character for Redskins fans. No matter what happens, Dan will get the blame for failing and Russ will get credit for winning. Then one day when Dan has to fire Russ, then my friend Dan finds true bottom in the hearts of Redskins fans.

Russ will never coach for this team while Dan owns it, neither will any of Joe Gibbs' proteges, anyone that represents true Redskins football.    

Rich Tandler (Real Redskins): While he was a player, he didn't seem to be the type who would become a coach. Primarily, that's because he enjoyed the night life. It wasn't unusual to see Grimm out until all hours around Georgetown, feeling no pain. I know, because I occasionally was in the same bars.

Even when he became a coach, he wasn't seen as a rising star. While some members of Norv's staff went on to become head coaches--Mike Martz, Cam Cameron, Mike Nolan--there never seemed to be any danger of losing Grimm to a promotion elsewhere.

When Norv was fired, there was no discussion of him becoming even the interim coach, much less the head coach. Evidently, he took much better to Cowher than he did to Norval. I have to wonder, though, why Rooney did not hire him when Cowher retired. It was a done deal and he pulled it back at the last minute. Certainly he
hit a home run with Tomlin but, still, I wonder why he didn't pull the trigger on Grimm.

Also, I wonder why Grimm isn't a full-fledged coordinator in his 18th year of coaching. He's had a better shot at it than Zorn in that he's been in the NFL the whole time while Zorn spent time at Utah State and Boise State. 

So it seems the only outstanding concern is why did Russ Grimm get over-looked in Pittsburgh, and why did Cowher refer Chan Gailey over Wisenhunt and Grimm? This Steeler's blog listed some likely reasons, but with 3 qualified candidates in Grimm, Wisenhunt and Tomlin, perhaps the Rooney Rule was in full effect? Either way, I really believe Russ should be given a hard look.

Grimm's Coaching Resume:

  • Washington Redskins (1992-2000)

    Tight end coach (from 1992 through 1996, and offensive line coach from 1997 through 2000, during which he was instrumental in the development of tackles Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen)
  • Pittsburgh Steelers (2000-2006)

    Offensive line coach in September 2000. In 2004 he was promoted to Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line.


    Under Grimm guidance in 2005, the Super Bowl champion Steelers averaged nearly 140 yards rushing per game during the regular season to rank fifth in the NFL while also grinding out 181 rushing yards in their Super Bowl XL victory over the Seattle Seahawks.

    In 2006 Steelers offensive line helped pave the way for running back Willie Parker to gain 1,494 yards and 13 touchdowns on 337 carries with 4.4 yard avg. and earn his first Pro Bowl selection. Pittsburgh offense finished the 2006 season with the 10th best rushing attack in the NFL, helping to give the Steelers the 7th ranked total offense in the league.

  • Arizona Cardinals (2007-present)

    In 2007, Grimm was hired by the Arizona Cardinals to serve as their assistant head coach/offensive line coach. In Arizona, he serves under head coach Ken Whisenhunt who Grimm worked with under Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh. In his first season in Arizona, his offensive line allowed only 24 sacks, 6th best in the NFL and the fewest given up by the Cardinals since 1978 with 22. Grimm's offensive line also paved the way for running back Edgerrin James to rush for 1,222 yards, the fifth best total in team history. The Cardinals offense finished with the 5th best passing attack in the NFL and threw for a team record 32 touchdowns.
Thanks again to David, Mark, Ben, and Rich for their input. It is much appreciated and respected.

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Good Combo

Really like the Cowher/Grimm combination, but as GM/Head Coach.

by John S51 on Nov 11, 2009 7:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

interesting idea

would need to include a veteran play-caller, IMO

like Cam Cam in Baltimore

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grimm is our man.

Bring back the Hogs.

by CarverM on Nov 11, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not surprisingly, Ben Folsom had very insightful observation

he runs a great blog

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 9:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Always like to hear what ol’ Ben is thinking

by Sugar on Nov 11, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep Ben is old

He just turned 40, the ole fart!

by Mark Newgent on Nov 11, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It all depends

on whether or not we’re stuck with Snyder/Cerrato for a pseudo front office (PFO).

As Sugar said in his post yesterday, I don’t think the PFO setup we now have is going to give a coach much to work with. We’ll get more grossly overpaid has-beens (add CP to that list) and the OL will continue to be ignored. Would Russ Grimm succeed in that scenario? I doubt it. Will he be any better than some of the other options? Maybe but I can’t get enthused about hiring someone else who’s short on experience.

by aFan4Life on Nov 11, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree

but none of the veteran candidates besides Cowher excite me either

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

At least he could potentially

make us feel like the Redskins again. Remember that feeling when Gibbs 2.0 came back? Warm and fuzzy is more than we get these days.

by CarverM on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I call shenanigans

With a little help from a grey goose, I get warm and fuzzy every sunday when I watch the redskins.

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 11, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Before the game.

Then afterwards, I’m just bitter, pissed off, more likely to break stuff and cuss someone out in front of my Mom.

by CarverM on Nov 11, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When I lived in Florida for a few years

I was officially banned from watching in my own home the moment the lamp ended up in the pool. Followed by the lawn furniture. Now we live in MD, so this is not an issue – once the pool is closed for the winter.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahaah

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wary of that exact dynamic

I just want to be respectable again. THAT’s what Redskins means to me.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

By the way (tangent)

I remember when Gibbs came back. I was living out west. I had the computer out. I’m sure I was looking at good wholesome, christian-type websites. But I hit refresh and all of a sudden, the front page had a big picture of Gibbs. I read the headline that said Gibbs was thinking about coming back. I couldn’t sleep all night. I was waking everybody up on the east coast asking for updates. It was a complete shock to me. I was looking up every website i could think of. I remember not being able to sleep and not relaxing until the wee hours of the morning when it was finally confirmed. I called and got tickets to the home opener (which i flew home for) the next day.
Great day for me!

by monk81 on Nov 12, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good post.

I like reading the perspectives of all the ‘experts’. I think I’d be more comfortable with him as OC under Cowher than as HC though.

by SSBlitz on Nov 11, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

agree

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto Cowher HC Grimm OC/Line

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is the youtube video of Joe Theismann being interviewed by John Riggins not on this website

The Rod has spoken

by Rodskin on Nov 11, 2009 11:07 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

OC, maybe HC in waiting

I’d be cool if they decided to get him in as a OC under one of the experienced guys, then see if he’s capable of being the eventual replacement. After all, the big named retired guys aren’t going to be back forever and it’s good to have prospects to follow him up. As much as I love Grimm I’m just not sure it’d be good to bring in another first time HC who hasn’t been a full coordinator yet.

by SkinsOsTerps on Nov 11, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Singletary isn't a very good coach

Maybe one day but right now he is a pretty mediocre HC who makes nice press. We should stop holding him up as an example of what we want. The niners are underachieving and his in game management has been horrible.

by BayAreaBullet on Nov 11, 2009 1:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

We need an experienced, veteran head coach. Russ Grimm is cool for nastalgilistic purposes, but he brings no HC experience, no coordinator experience, etc… What about him says he’d be a good NFL HC? He was given the task of being in charge of the Arizona running attack this year and how is that doing? Bottom 5?

I just don’t think he’s our guy for a number of reasons.

by pas493 on Nov 11, 2009 1:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Steeler fan perspective

I like Grimm and would have been OK with him or Wiz as the Pgh HC (not thrilled but OK), but there are a lot of differences between that hire and Zorn’s inevitable replacement. Unless you’re talking about a potential GM situation like Holmgren’s, it’s premature to discuss a new HC. Look at the Browns (take heart that some owners have less of a clue than Snyder). They decided to hire a coach and essentially let him pick a GM. Now they’re looking to blow it up again less than a year later.

Snyder would be best served hiring a real VP of football operations and having nothing to do with the day to day on the field. Jerry Jones set the bad example, but how well has it worked for the Cowboys?

Snyder needs to be the sugar daddy owner who pals with the players, asks them about the kids and family, and signs the big checks — everyone LOVES that guy. Think avuncularly. If the Skins ever see another Lombardi on his watch he’ll still get to be the first one to touch it.

by chicos_pants on Nov 11, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

We’re all in agreement that Snyder needs to bring in a GM first ant butt out, but he will be appointing a head coach and we’re just going thru the most popular ones. Not to mention, there is a scary but likely chance a head coach will be hired first even if cerrato is canned.

by KevinE on Nov 11, 2009 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

The first thing we need

is someone to teach Mr. Snyder Management 101 followed by a refresher course every morning. Not that he would pay attention…

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome!
Russ Grimm is cool for nastalgilistic purposes

or supernastalgilisicexpealidocious purposes.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually,
Snyder would be best served hiring a real VP of football operations and having nothing to do with the day to day on the field.

No. The team and the fans would be best served, but Danny won’t give up control, which best suits him.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just wondering if anyone on this site is preparing bracing themselves for the RETURN of Cerrato.

The Rod has spoken

by Rodskin on Nov 11, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I've been wondering about that

I mean, Snyder is so stubborn and ignorant that I think this is a very real possibility

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am predicting he gets canned...

If he doesn’t, expect me to bring out some ridiculous stunts.

by KevinE on Nov 11, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He has to.

Danny needs a scape goat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 11, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pssh

haven’t you heard? Zorny’s the scapegoat this year

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yup

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah.

At least not in the public’s view. Firing Zorn wouldn’t be received nearly as well as firing Vinny will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 11, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

when has danny seen ANYTHING from the public’s view?

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 11, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My point is

if Danny wants to save face, firing Zorn isn’t going to cut it. Since Danny always looks out after himself, he’ll have to fire Vinny. I’m not saying that he’s doing it for anything other than to make himself look better and put the blame on someone else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 11, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

gotcha

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 11, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zorn

was Danny’s idea. Don’t be surprised if Zorn stays but gets an OC that calls plays. Vinny, as VP of Football Operations, stays, too – but they hire a GM that “reports” to him, probably a newbie. Snyder will still call the shots. Where it goes from there, who knows. But not likely well.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agree

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 13, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am

In fact, I would not be suprised if he was PROMOTED of all things, to be the official General Manager. Right now his title is something like V.P. or some other bullshit label. If that doesn’t happen it wouldn’t suprise me if Dan actually gives him a “lower” title just to make it appear he’s making changes and then he brought in someone to hold both of their hands now.

Their is only 2 paths to take, keep him or get rid of him, if Vinny is in any way, shape or form on the payroll on draft day, then I don’t care what kind of P. R. stunts are used, NOTHING is going to change next year either.

by skinsymets on Nov 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is officially

VP of Football Operations and should be surgically removed.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he is allowed

nowhere NEAR our cheerleaders!!!

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 12, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry, right....

as much as he has screwed everything else up we’d likely end up with an All-Prego cheer leading squad (up to now the Cheerleaders are the one thing Snyder has done to improve things of which I approve).

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's almost to the point

where its Vinny or me. Another year of the Vinny is just too much to even consider bearing. Aside for all his bad/inept decisions, he would be hurting any chance of us getting a respectable HC.

The only non-firing Vinny scenario that works is to put him in charge of the cheerleaders or concessions or something, but still bring in a GM.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You need to prepare yourself for Vinny getting fired and him getting replaced by someone equally inept.

If Vinny gets fired, this scenario is by far the most likely to happen.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

“inept and overpaid” needs to get inserted into our fight song if we are going to be truthful about it.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good point

but no good long term solution will take an interim job or take the job with a vacant GM post. Cerrato needs to find the door as soon as the Skins are not longer playing games this season. Snyder would be wise to be look for a replacement right now. I think we all know he’s not about to unload the team.

I’m still surprised Zorn signed on as coordinator before a coach was named. That was as big a mistake as taking the HC job. It’s nuts for a GM to put coaches in place without giving the HC at least some (if not final) say. Had Snyder hired a 1st choice candidate to replace Gibbs, what would have happened to Zorn if the other coach had someone else in mind for OC or QQ coach?

by chicos_pants on Nov 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It officially removed all candidates that were

sane and not WCO oriented.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Missed Opportunity

I think that after the way the JZ debacle has been handled by the FO, Snyder will not hire a coach that has no coordinator or HC experience. Unless he is also able to hire a strong OC / play caller.

Hindsight 20-20: If Snyder had hired Grimm instead of JZ, or with JZ as the OC, I think that Grimm would have more leash than JZ. Also, I would like to think that Grimm would have been able to force the issue to improve the OL over the last few years, and we would not be where we are now.

Also Grimm’s son Cody is a Stud Linebacker at VT. Just had to get that in!!!

by WestCoastHokie on Nov 11, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll have to disagree with the blogger from ROTB

I’d much rather have Russ Grimm than Jon Gruden, Shanahan, or Mike Holmgren. I don’t believe those two guys are what this team needs. As for Cowher, I’d take him in a heart beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk

by hibachi on Nov 11, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cowher is the only potential candidate that I want

Unfortunately all rumors have him going elsewhere

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 11, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree 100%

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

NOT WITHOUT A PLAYCALLER ......

Why don’t some of you get it. We have lost several games this year because of no real play caller IE ( JIM ZORN ). If we do not add a play caller I say no. If we add a play caller it would not be that bad of a idea.

by LETJASONPASS on Nov 11, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think most of us

consider it a given that Grimm would require a good playcaller. Let him do his magic as a disciplinarian and a leader with emphasis on building up the O-line and reinforcing smashmouth football as the team’s mindset.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In an alternate universe, Grimm with Zorn as OC might have worked

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I likee the idea. Can’t happen now. Question: who calls the plays?

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zorn does

but Grimm keeps him in check from calling third-down HB option passes inside the 10 yard line.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

haha

I thought that play pissed ME off, but I think it’s just on a whole other level with you, isn’t it Smuts?

SpotieOtieDopalicious

by Rekka on Nov 12, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that play wasn't just stupid

it had LEVELS of stupidity

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on Nov 12, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And no

CP left on 3rd or 4th downs, and
no WR screens and
no 3 yd pass plays on 3rd and 6 and
nothing in the Red Zone and
no timeouts ever and
no play challenges ever.

So its light duty all around, but it works for me.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Grimm is a risky proposition

I like that he would probably come in stressing the OL as a top priority because of his background. But, does he have the clout to persuade Snyder to make better decisions? I’m sure Grimm would speak his mind, but I wonder if his lack of head coaching experience would hinder his power in the organization. One great thing about Joe Gibbs was that his legendary history and qualifications clearly overshadowed Snyderrato. There may not be another ex-NFL coach with that kind of power/influence over Snyder, but I can’t help but think that some of the other Superbowl-winning candidates are going to be able to throw their weight around a little more.

All that said, I wouldn’t be against bringing Russ Grimm in as our HC, as long as he is surrounded with a strong, experienced supporting cast (especially at OC). The Jim Zorn experiment has at least proven that bringing a new guy in to multi-task being a HC/OC/QBs coach/whatever is just too overwhelming. Especially in the NFL (Not For Long).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded

by VA_Skin on Nov 12, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cowher

is the closest thing to a sure thing and Cowher/Grimm combination would be awesome.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

by Scott E on Nov 12, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

id rather have shanahan or chuckie

by yourveryownromeo on Nov 15, 2009 7:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs


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