Redskins Front Office and Coaching Staff Out of Sync (Still)
by KevinE on Oct 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT
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On the defensive side of the ball, Hogs Haven reader 'Boo.' mentioned that Blache will no longer be talking to the media and secondary coaches Jerry Gray will take over.
On the offensive side of the ball, some discouraging quotes are coming out of Redskins Park on the hiring of Sherman Lewis. Via the Washington Post:
"I don't know what my role will be," said [Sherman] Lewis, 67, a longtime NFL coach and disciple of the West Coast offense.
"I don't think he's going to tell us something we don't already know," offensive coordinator Sherman Smith said. "I think we're doing the scheme the right way. If he sees something in our scheme that we don't see, I hope he'll tell us. That'll help us."
Asked how much he spoke with Lewis before the job was offered, Zorn said, "Zero." Zorn said he'll be receptive to Lewis's suggestions, but said the idea to add a consultant to the staff was Vinny Cerrato's, the Redskins' executive vice president of football operations, not his.
I recently wrote an article after the Lions loss to "Blow it Up." Well, it sounds like it's happening internally via a team implosion. I can't imagine what the players are thinking. How do you not include your head coach in the hiring of an assistant that he will have to work with? Makes no sense.
Portis has been trying his best not come clean about the Lewis hiring, instead, he's been playing dodge ball with responses like this:
"I don't know, you've got to ask general management about that, you know? I don't know much about the situation."
Portis has been in this organization long enough. I think he knows this situation all too well.
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It's the end of the end
You don’t hire a consultant to come in and over-see a program with the blessing of the people trying to run the program.
The consultant works for the Front Office, he is not an assistant coach he is a consultant who has been brought in to see if it is indeed an execution problem as Zorn and Smith as well as some players keep talking about or is it a scheme issue. If it is a scheme issue then Lewis can share and see if Zorn and Smith can fix it or can report that to Dan which would them obligate him to make a change.
As stated twice before the outcome of a new head coach occured, why would the third time be different?
by dr WNC on Oct 8, 2009 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blache
Is he on the way out?
Don’t think he would be fired but I do think he would gladly retire, as he almost did when Gibbs retired two years ago.
by dr WNC on Oct 8, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The conspiracy theory is
that Blache is poised to become head coach, with Gray taking over as D-Coordinator and Lewis stepping in as O-Coordinator. Blache is friends with Lewis, he invited him to the hotel in Detroit and gave him tickets to the Lions game. If this is true, he is not talking because he doesn’t want to be grilled by the media and be forced to lie, that or let something slip and undermine… team chemistry? Who knows.
For the record, I don’t buy this for a second. But it is a neat little theory, and at this point we shouldn’t be surprised by anything this FO pulls.
Another reason Blache wouldn’t be talking is because he has taken a lot of heat (rightfully so) so far this season. He blew up at Trevor Matich and then “threw himself under the bus” last week. He doesn’t want to deal with what he perceives to be bullshit and instead wants to focus his energy on coaching. Hey if it works, great. Apparently he made a passionate speech to the defense the night before the TB game. I’m not on the same page as CJ and others who want to back the bus right back over Blache. I think he still has it, and I think the worst thing the team could be doing on either side of the ball—in terms of the development of players and a team identity— is destabilize the coaching line-up mid-season. Haven’t we learned this lesson?
by Boo. on Oct 8, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to the official blogger
And according to Zorn, Blache isn’t talking to the media for “personal reasons.”
http://blog.redskins.com/2009/10/08/redskins-rewatching-horrible-2008-preseason-game-for-motivation/
Of course, there’s no telling why Blache is really truly declining to speak to the media based on “personal reasons.” However, when I first heard that he wasn’t speaking with the media any longer, I took it as Blache being upset with everything— Snyder, Cerrato, the way Lewis was brought in, and the fact that he just never liked speaking to the media in the first place. None of us really know for sure, but that’s what I thought at first.
by bigrm18 on Oct 8, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it could get worse
Since the defense has regressed under Blache I am not the least bit impressed with him so of course our brilliant FO would promote him to HC? Don’t we have a water boy somewhere that we could promote instead?
They really let Greg Williams go for this defense? And they just couldn’t promote him? With the new personnel that have been added (Haynesworth, Orakpo & jarmon) this defense could be very good if we still had Williams as DC.
by ZakInOmaha on Oct 9, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense could be very good with Williams as DC?
Implies that the Defense is bad, I don’t see where the defense has be that bad, a work in process to fit the pieces together but still solid. This week will explain a lot of where the Defense is compared to the other 32 teams.
William’s system works with the right players as noted in Jacksonville and New Orleans.
Wrong people in Jacksonville, right people in NO:
by dr WNC on Oct 9, 2009 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
It hasn’t been bad but it isn’t at 4th overall like it was last year either and again, it has been against 3 poor teams and only 1 very good team.
by ZakInOmaha on Oct 9, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Snyder & GWill didn't get along at all
I believe that’s what George Michael said in his interview last week.
You can’t have a coach & owner that don’t like each other.
Plus G-will still has never shown himself capable of being a HC, or convincing anyone else to give him that job. He might be one of those people that is destined to be a good coordinator and not HC.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 9, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GWIll & Snyder
I would not assume that GWIll was at fault for not getting along with each other. There’s a reason Snyder is often compared to napoleon. :P
Plus the idea that nobody can be a HC until they prove they can do it is silly. For every person in every job there is a first time. That’s true of everyone including our beloved Joe Gibbs.
personally I think he was much closer to being ready than Zorn who wasn’t even a OC/DC but merely a position coach. Talk about someone who might be destined to only be a coordinator…or maybe a QB coach.
by ZakInOmaha on Oct 9, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard that theory too
and I also heard that Blache left the park early that day pissed off. The “grape vine” chatter is that he was offered the ‘Intermediate’ job, but didn’t wanna have anything to do with backstabbing Zorn, so he got pissed off. If there’s any truth to that, then maybe they’re prepping Jerry Gray to take over so they can send Blache packing with Zorn. Perhaps Lewis was brought in now to get acclimated with the offense/players, so that he could take over as OC after the bye.
I usually don’t buy into conspiracy theories, but this is kinda cool because it’s WAY different. Leave it to Snyder and co. to find a brand new way to place the organization in flux.
by CJHutch on Oct 9, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a whole new level
Wow, Snyder has taken team mismanagement to a whole new level. I didn’t even know it could be done. He’s the Michael Jordan of team mismanagement!
by ZakInOmaha on Oct 9, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snyder is a joke.
This front office is a joke.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 8, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Armageddon, Redskins style....
2012 came early for us!!!!!
by brettpedigo on Oct 8, 2009 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
VinnieVinnieVinne…………………..Why don’t we hire a O-Line set of eyes too….and some extra WR coaches so we have more eyes on our 2nd rd group from last year……Heck, lets go ahead and hire that stack of money from the Geico commercials too……
Tony A
by JNZO on Oct 8, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because he thinks it's eyes outdo his
Heck, lets go ahead and hire that stack of money from the Geico commercials too……
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Oct 8, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone
trust a man who looks like this…unless, maybe, you look like Daniel Snyder.
by grandpa grouse on Oct 8, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks remarkably like...
Rasputin. Hide the women and children.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 9, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found this on Sherm's Resume...
- Able to cross highways at night.
Time to put out the “Sherm Crossing” signs. Any ideas what they would look like?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 9, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were Zorn
when Cerrato said “Do you think an extra set of eyes would help around here?”, I’d tell him “That’s EXACTLY what I was thinking. So who are you gonna get to help you in the front office?”
by CJHutch on Oct 9, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL
I actually laughed out loud at that, hilarious! If you’re going to get fired that would be the way to do it.
by ZakInOmaha on Oct 9, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snyder needs to hire a GM and get all his Napoleanic stuff out with this
by KevinE on Oct 8, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cue the damn circus music...
Here is what goes on behind the scenes in Ashburn
by SkinsOsTerps on Oct 8, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
priceless!
I might have to use this if another coach quits.
by KevinE on Oct 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I'm wrong
But isn’t that the theme song for when Snyder enters his pressbox?
by bigrm18 on Oct 8, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Help!
Somebody or something, please save us from the Danny and Vinny show.
by John S51 on Oct 8, 2009 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking
Pitchforks might be a better alternative at this point.
by bigrm18 on Oct 8, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zorn will make it.
The biggest change Snyder’s been trying to make over the years is that he refuses to fire a coach. I think this is step one in his Meddler’s anonymous classes.
Zorn’s job is fine and then Snyder will convince him to quit in the off season.
by snowburnt on Oct 9, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You said..
How do you not include your head coach in the hiring of an assistant that he will have to work with? Makes no sense.
The fact is, Snyder hired Zorn THEN went looking for an HC. Obviously, Danno never took Mgt 101. He knows nothing about lines of authority or effective communications. He just has a glare and a pocket full of money. …and a cell phone.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 9, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well....I have to say...
At least most of us seem to have retained our senses of humor. Thank god for that, as everything else is flowing down the sh!tter.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 9, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If none of us
Had a sense of humor while dealing with Snyder, we would have killed ourselves and our families by now. And of course everyone’s television would have a lamp thrown through it as well.
by bigrm18 on Oct 9, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
These player deserve a better owner and front office and coaching
Caveat: NFL football is entertainment, not the beginning and the end of life.
But…it’s time to send a message. Mr. Snyder, we’re talking business. What would you do if your employees refused to apologize or take account for their consistent history of failure at maintaining a franchise and upholding a tradition of winning? What would you do if you found out that the morale of your customers, your fan base, the community was at its lowest?
We love the Redskins and are being let down, as are the players. They don’t know what they are doing out there anymore. No flow and no momentum. No pass play timing and really poor play calling. And regenerating the OL has been an afterthought. We have been patient, Mr. Snyder, but compare your organization to the Giants: you have proven yourself to be an amateur in the “big time.”
So fans, here’s a modest proposal. Until Mr. Snyder either sells the team or apologizes to the Washington community for letting them down, backs off with humility and lets a proven and competent management team take charge, then it is the duty of the fans to stop buying any Redskin gear. Purchasing drinks and food at the game is OK for now. It’s not the fault of the concessionaires. (That’s the next boycott, which includes boycotting the Redskins club. You’d only need to do it for one game to show who means business.)
It looks like the only way that Mr. Snyder will grow up, become humble and change his ways is through his pocket book. He’s a businessman. So, fans, here’s the rules:
1. Don’t buy any Redskin gear. You can wear what you’ve bought, but nothing new.
2. Wearing a paper bag is old hat and immature and you’ll get thrown out of the stadium. Wear a paper hat instead. It takes a little time to make one, but who’s gonna make you take off your paper hat?
3. Boo only once in the game. When the owner enters his box or is shown on TV. Turn your field glasses to his section and give your fellow fans the go ahead.
4. No fist fights, especially with Eagles fans. We still have class.
Remember we love the Skins. We hurt for the players. They deserve much better. And our commmunity deserves better.
by PRCMD on Oct 11, 2009 11:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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