Recap: Tampa Bay Bucanneers vs Washington Redskins
by KevinE on Oct 5, 2009 10:40 AM EDT
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Chris Cooley was quick to twitter last night after the game, "Our team is like Viagra...we make it hard every week. But who cares, we won." Another tough day for Redskins fans. We squeaked out another win, and we're left with hoping that THIS game is the one where lessons are learned and motivation is gained for the next game. It never seems to work that way even as their schedule couldn't be ANY friendlier for a struggling team. The first half as we all know went as bad as it could go.
"It was really frustrating for us all. I started looking at the game plan, wondering: What else could go wrong?" Zorn said. "It was, offensively, like two different halves."
Well, of the first 20 first down plays, 14 were runs (13 by Portis). It's not often a team turns the ball over 4 times and wins the game, but so it goes when you play an abysmal team with a rookie 1-AA quarterback. ChrisCarter said post-game, "I look at the film and by the way Jason Campbell reads defenses, it looks like he just came in the NFL." Ouch. Zorn took a lot of the blame for the play-calling, which is obvious when the team is unable to successfully run the ball, yet he still called the run 35 times. I don't know what to expect for the Redskins, but I am no longer holding my breath that they'll turn it around at Carolina.
TEAM STAT COMPARISON
1st Downs
12
14
6
9
6
5
0
0
2-13
4-14
0-0
1-2
Total Plays
55
60
Total Yards
229
277
Passing
100
152
13-22
12-22
4.5
6.9
Rushing
129
125
30
35
4.3
3.6
Red Zone (Made-Att)
1-3
1-1
Penalties
5-40
4-40
Turnovers
2
4
1
1
1
3
Defensive / Special Teams TDs
0
0
Possession
31:04
28:56
31:04 seconds is a lot of time on the fields for a 0-3 team. Who thought our defense would be the problem going into this year? Perhaps it was because the whole time they were going against OUR OWN offense all training camp!?
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The picture says a lot!
If the team thinks the have more talent, then why the big celebration for an ugly win.
Yes, a win is a win but….
Take Monday off! Celebrate? It does not add up to a team with a heart to win all the games.
Carolina throws 4 to 5 picks then the Redskins will win, which of course occurs after the Defense shuts down the running game. Stone-hands will drop 2 to 3 interceptions causing the Redskins to go to 2-3
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are who we now know what they are!!!
They stink! Enjoy this one. It was better than the Rams win, but in the coming months, they will never win! Enjoy this now!!! Remember, the skins play to their competition and have only beat the Cheifs once ever!!!!
by brettpedigo on Oct 5, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cautious Kudos to Zorn
the 2nd half of yesterday’s game is perhaps the first I can remember under Zorn where we called multiple play action passes, passed deep on first down, and tried an all around professional NFL passing game.
JC’s three INTs sucked, but hell if our WRs weren’t getting much separation.
Our WR corps still has a long, long, looooong way to go.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It would help if ...
Jason would:
- stay in the pocket and look down field for receivers using the prescribed progression
- pick the open receiver
- throw it to a spot that makes it easy for our guy to make the catch and hard for their guy
Jason had happy feet all day and was taking his eyes off the play down field like 1.5 seconds at least too early. Agree with Chris Carter – JC was dumping the ball off automatically to his check down receiver. I almost choked when we had that 3rd down and 5 and he went to the screen left that was almost a lateral. Any other team would have stuffed that play. As it was, we barely got the 1st down. I am completely demoralized, needless to say.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All the other times...
he was staring down his receiver like a HS QB.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn’t mind the two long picks that he throw….was glad to see him take some risk finally. The receivers need to make plays when he tries it again, I’m sick of seeing other teams make plays or draw flags on downfield passes. I have yet to see a Redskins leave his feet to make a catch this year. You are right about JC and his reads/staring…he did this a lot when under center, but throw pretty well out of the gun again.
by liger99 on Oct 5, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely the one to MK
He’s got to go up and snatch it from the smaller defender.
by VA_Skin on Oct 5, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't they say his nickname in cap was "Go Get It"
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Oct 5, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, but there's more to it than that
- stay in the pocket and look down field for receivers using the prescribed progression
it’s harder to rely on the pocket when Reinhart and Heyer are getting shoved into the backfield every few plays
- pick the open receiver
our WRs aren’t great at getting open
- throw it to a spot that makes it easy for our guy to make the catch and hard for their guy
didn’t notice this, but if true I certainly agree.
As usual, I’m not freeing JC of blame, there’s a lot to go around. But he’s playing behind a weak OL and throwing to weak WRs. It’s a struggle for everyone.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the last one...
clearly the interception was made easier in that Talib had a better shot at the ball (and made the catch) than Malcom Kelley. Had the ball been to his left shoulder, he had a relatively easy catch. My take…
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someone mentioned today
that Kelly ran the wrong route, not 100% sure though.
Or maybe I’m mixed up with an earlier INT
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you see that
Brandon Marshall catch against Dallas? He wasn’t always doing that. In fact, I’d venture to say he didn’t know he COULD do it until he did. Time to give OUR GUYS the opportunity to perfect that technique
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats completely true
I never thought Marshall was really an “elite” receiver but a good one. I’m pretty sure he didn’t know he had that in him, especially the run.
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally agree
QB is only a small part of the big problem.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
by GeoFly on Oct 5, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares!
My expectations have dropped low enough by now. So we aren’t the all-star team we thought we would be at the begginning of the season… Oh well, just accept it.
Hopefully they can improve throughout the season, but I don’t care how ugly the games are anymore.
Just keep winning !
by DCtoAustralia on Oct 5, 2009 10:58 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Formula for victory
More Portis (and Betts and Mason). Less Campbell.
I can’t believe how simple it is.
by artmonk4ever on Oct 5, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Please see my last stat below..
Have you not heard about our O-line?
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you mean less passing game.
Less Campbell.
also, the passing game got our TDs yesterday
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but our running game
won us the game. (i.e. Portis = over 20 carries.)
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's hard to say that
when both TDs were on long passes.
and you run when you win, you don’t win when you run.
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I completely disagree
You want examples? Check out the Washington Redskins of 1983, 1987, and 1991. Good passing teams, all. But only because they were VERY good running teams.
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying you can't win with a run-based offense
obviously that’s not true. but getting Clinton Portis 25 carries at 4.0 ypc isn’t the main story of what won us the game.
also, I adhere to this philosophy against the myth of “when player X gets Y carries, team Z wins”
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/01/23/the_myth_of_the_run/
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You miss the point
It’s the balance, not the rushing…
When a team rushes 20 to 30 times a game, it has a balanced game plan.
Nice Article however who won the Superbowl, the team which had a balanced rushing game.
CJ pointed out in the first three games, the lack of a Rushing game by the Redskins.
Establish a solid Run
Provide a solid Passing game
The team will win…throw out one of those and it’s a toss up…
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By george
give that man a prize. THAT’s my point.
I laid out the thought of spreading carries around because CP’s been struggling, regardless you HAVE To run the ball. So Portis getting 25 carries IS the main story. It’s the most glaring difference between our wins and losses. I say Portis because he’s our “feature back.” Regardless of who it is, we need to have 25+ rushes a game. And now it looks like it may be Chris Henry. UGH!!
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some sad facts....
- TB QB had a 129.2 passer rating for first half
- JC QB rating with 6 mins to go in 1st half = 7.4 (I could actually believe the stat when it came up – he was that bad)
- CP had nearly 100yds rushing…..against the 31st ranked rushing defense where everyone else has rushed on them by oh about twice that.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After his fumble
Jason Campbell had a QB rating of 0. And a turnover ratio of 100%! He was also on pace to fumble it 15 times in one game! Those would have been the worst numbers ever, but then the rest of the game happened.
by SSBlitz on Oct 5, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fumbles count in QB ratings
Fumbles count in the QB rating?
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you hear that we won the game?
Who cares what JC’s passer rating was 6 minutes to go in the 1st half? The dude had a bad half, you don’t think it was a good sign that he rebounded in the second half? How many times did he save us on 3rd down with his legs yesterday.
Do you realize Jason Campbell has a better passer rating than: Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Carson Palmer, Tony Romo, Mark Sanchez, among others?
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Protis is shell shocked
He just falls down now, contact or not. A decent back would have had 150 yesterday. Mason made a nice move to get an eight yard run and spent the rest of the day holding up the bench… Why?
by brettpedigo on Oct 5, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
i noticed that too…
and on one of the interceptions where kelly was running down the sideline. he should have stopped and gone up for the ball instead he kept running. alot of QBs and WRs do that play and the QB throws the ball like JC did but the WR stops whenever the CB is deadlocked with him so as to seperate and go up for the grab. i thought on that one only it was Kellys fault instead of JC’s
and why isnt Marko Mitchell in the game. jesus.
by word2bigbird on Oct 5, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He tripped a few times over mike sellars and the o-lineman, I don’t recall him just going to the ground for absolutely no reason.
We just need an o-line that can run block as well as pass block, not one or the other.
And Mason isn’t a replacement, he had two runs for 8 yards, so he had a nice 8 yard run where he had a huge hole and a run that went no where.
by travisjh86 on Oct 5, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
saddest fact of all...
Our only wins have come against what are arguably the 2 worst teams in the NFL and by a combined margin of five points at Fedex field. Hmmmmmmm?????
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
by GeoFly on Oct 5, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ
Did we win or lose yesterday?
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Oct 5, 2009 11:35 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Won the game....
lost the battle to show progress.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
50 yard bomb for a touchdown (which everyone has been crying about lately), touchdowns in the Redzone,hell TOUCHDOWNS AT ALL! there’s progress as long as you stop trying to compare us to people we’re not.
We’re never gonna light the world on fire, but this team can get it together and pull out a win, which they did.
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
by Rekka on Oct 5, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I soooo hope you are correct!!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is every one is hung up on style points
in the NFL, the box score doesn’t and the scoreboard does matter. The W is the “key stat” here. It isn’t fantasy football, do we all think we should have beat that team more soundly, yes we do, why would we have that expectation, after all we had just lost to the freaking Lions. I would have thought that occurrence should have brought home the fact that this team is going to win ugly if it wins at all. Does anyone think the Broncos look good right now? really? yet they are 4-0, you think they give a rats ass how the games look or just the results themselves?
Carolina, well who knows what will happen there, especially if “he who throws picks” attempts to throw them to Carlos “he who cannot catch picks” Rogers is the DB in question. The obvious answer is a lot of dropped passes ;-) This week we won, no dragging around the office having fingers pointed at us and smiggered laughing behind cubicle walls to be endured.
I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused....
by piratedan7 on Oct 5, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Redskins Won
Cowboys Lost
Be Happy!
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be +2 if my math serves me
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 5, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fred Davis
What is the point of having Fred Davis active? He sucks at blocking and we don’t throw it to him. It is time for Yoder or Ed Williams to be active. I saw Sellers at TE next to Heyer a few times, that should continue if they activate Williams at FB…or just go with Yoder.
by liger99 on Oct 5, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yoder is active
He’s the reason Barber block our XP
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats right! Damn, I forgot about that. great.
by liger99 on Oct 5, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yoder
Is active Ed Williams is not on the team, Edwin Williams is a C
Inactives against Tampa
Kevin Barnes CB Inactive
Anthony Alridge WR Inactive
Edwin Williams C Inactive
Robert Henson LB Inactive
D’Anthony Batiste OG Inactive
Marko Mitchell WR Inactive
Anthony Montgomery DT Inactive
Renaldo Wynn DE Inactive
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The FB/TE from Idaho that we drafted is on the practice sqaud.
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a practice squad player
Is not really on the team or any other team, but they are part of the NFL
He can be signed to ANY TEAMS active roster at any Time.
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought all of Vinny’s picks had to be on the roster….my bad.
by liger99 on Oct 5, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UGH
I still don’t know WHY Mitchell hasn’t played. And good thing we got Alridge, and not a dependable O-tackle. Oh, AND it’s a good thing we got rid of Antonio Dixon for Renaldo Wynn.
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Practice
What Wynn brings to practice, maybe what Jarmon is taking in….Wynn for Defensive line coach!
Mitchell, agree
Alrdge, needs to be part of the offense
No to ANY Free agent Offensive line man. Who is available, and how would they be an upgrade over a Jansen who the Redskins released. The line is the Line-Build the line in the Draft and only the Draft…
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Levi Jones, an probably even Runyan, would be an upgrade over Heyer. He gets abused regularly. And did you see that Cooley play? CC probably scores if Heyer blocks ONE guy. Instead he flails his arms like a drowning man, not even making contact with the guy. Pitiful
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The screen pass to Cooley? I thought CC should have taken it to the outside behind Heyer…it looked like Heyer was trying to seel block to the outside instead of crushing one of the defenders. Either way it should have gone for more yards.
by liger99 on Oct 5, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw
Heyer holding his arms out like wet noodles. He didn’t even try to block the guy.
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and it looks like Cooley
took the play inside when Heyer was setup to block to the outside
And it wasn’t the guy who brought Cooley down, so an effective block right?
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But still, overall...
it looked like patty-cakes patty-cakes. When in doubt (and you are Heyer’s size) just crush the dude and let C.C. waltz on thru.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 6, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he should just hit the guy…like Samuels did on that play.
by liger99 on Oct 6, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
But then Jansen is an upgrade over Heyer, so why do that change…if Heyer can’t do it as he is showing, it’s time to cut and run, drafting the future. I really hate the idea of signing any old lineman as a stop GAP who may or maynot be better.
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was all for
cutting Jansen, but that was after they said that Heyer was vastly improved in his run blocking. That’s far from the case, and they know it too – hence the constant runs to the left. They also said that Williams would vie for a starting job, and that hasn’t materialized either. I liked the Williams signing initially/ But I think that if he wasn’t Cerrato’s personal reclamation project, he wouldn’t have made the team.
by CJHutch on Oct 5, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mike Williams shouldn’t have made the team.
by travisjh86 on Oct 5, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was the Ratio of Right to Left in the Win
If my number are correct that would be a 60/40 split-And yes 60% went RIGHT!
by dr WNC on Oct 5, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe
but how many of those are tight end help? I really don’t know, but are you telling me you think Heyer is the “answer” at right tackle? I hate to bring this up, but keep in mind who we were playing. What I’m saying is, after 4 games, I don’t think he’s any better than he was last year, when they benched him because he couldn’t run block. And I think the coaches feel the same way, which is why we continue to run to the left. Maybe not this game, but the rest of the games we have. Just that the fact that Zorn INSISTS on running wide LEFT when he needs a yard, tells me this.
by CJHutch on Oct 6, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
in the 2nd half of the Lions game we started running behind Rhino with relative success. But Heyer’s got a LOT of improving to do.
by VA_Skin on Oct 6, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rhino
I have faith in. It’s pitiful that someone has to get hurt for them to give a young guy a shot (please let Carter and Daniels get hurt-please let Carter and Daniels get hurt-please let Carter and Daniels get hurt), but whatever. I think Rhino will be our starting guard next year. Heyer, I’m not so sure about. He has yet to convince me that he’s any better than a backup.
by CJHutch on Oct 6, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had high hopes for Heyer
Buges praised all offseason about the progress he was making. But, I think you’re right. If Heyer doesn’t make some significant improvements this season, he will probably be replaced with next year’s draft pick.
by VA_Skin on Oct 6, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that' my
point. Bugel kept trumpeting how much better Heyer was at run blocking, but I have yet to see it. And he may have even taken a step back in the pass blocking department. But, if you want to be realistic, should we EXPECT anything else from an undrafted guy? And, after the FO declined to acquire a legit RT, what is Buges gonna say – “This guy blows”?
by CJHutch on Oct 6, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, after the FO declined to acquire a legit RT
Joe Bugel’s evaluation of our OL and Stephon Heyer was a big part of why we didn’t draft a RT.
by VA_Skin on Oct 7, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
out best big WR is inactive.
Sad.
by brettpedigo on Oct 5, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What will we do now that....
…we lost our #1 offensive weapon, Hunter Smith? Seriously, the guy has probably been involved in more points than anyone else on the team.
by Mixmy1200s on Oct 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is James Thrash doing?
Saw him on the sideline in Skins gear, celebrating on some plays.
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe he's on the coaching staff
in some capacity
It's all Dan Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 5, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3rd Down Defense
Won this game for us. The players said they focused on 3rd down defense all week in practice and it showed! If we can continue to get off the field on 3rd downs as consistently as we did on Sunday, then we’ll have a shot to beat anybody. Of course our offensive 3rd down conversions were not good. It’s actually amazing we won a game in which we only converted 4 3rd downs. At this point I’m looking for baby steps, and I think I saw a few baby steps in the right direction Sunday.
by Kurtstack on Oct 5, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We have nobody
Who can teach our big WRs how to use their size to gain an advantage. Our Vet WRs are midgets.
by Kurtstack on Oct 5, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard we actually contracted Plaxico Burress
He needed a prison job, so every Monday we are sending Devin, Marko, and Malcolm up to the prison yard to get some tips.
by pas493 on Oct 5, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
we need tips from him. This team already knows how to shoot themselves in the foot.
by CJHutch on Oct 6, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since the 49ers have the Panthers 2010 1st round pick, I will be rooting for the Skins this week.
FIRE BRUCE BOCHY NOW!!!!!!
AND TAKE BRIAN SABEAN WITH HIM!!!!!
by 49er16 on Oct 5, 2009 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vote
I can’t bring myself to vote “yes” or “no.”
by travisjh86 on Oct 5, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why are we still making excuses for Campbell?
So it was the WR fault, that he tried to force the ball into double coverage when Cooley is wide open down the center of the field?
or how bout the fact that he puts the ball at least once a game but hey that’s his lines fault huh?
i mean lets face it Campbell is not progressing here what so ever… he is still trying to force the ball to moss when moss is double covered, and is to dense to figure out that if moss is double covered then that means you have a mismatch or like yesterday a wide open Cooley.. he still can’t read the def need proof go watch the audible at the giants game.. he is guaranteed one turn over a game because he can’t hold onto the ball.. yes i know i have said that i felt that i was wrong about ragging on Jason but hey yesterday just sealed the deal for me.. so lets stop making excuses for him. oh and CJ brad Johnson in his prime was better than Campbell.
by confederate_gent on Oct 5, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t like that he came back out and made up for his mistakes?
I guess you’ve made your point, and we know where you stand on the JC topic so when Jason goes out there this Sunday and has a great game I don’t want to see you kissing his ass. I want you to personally apologize to JC.
by travisjh86 on Oct 6, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CONFEDERATE_GENT ??? LOL GREAT NAME FOR A JC HATER !!!!!!
With a Name like that it is pretty easy to know what you think about JC 17 before you make a post !!!!!!!!!!! LOL YOUR HILLARIOUS !!!! TYPICAL …… JC HATER !!!!
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 6, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea let Jason pass
it must be because I’m a racist… it has nothing to do with the fact that he still can’t read the def, locks onto one receiver when others are open, or the fact that he fumbles the ball at least once a game.. but it must be because he is black.. the black issue is played out “well if you don’t suck Campbell’s D or worship him as a super bowl caliber QB you must be a racist” grow up, and challenge the facts that i have put forth..
by confederate_gent on Oct 6, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea lets not act
like you weren’t screaming to pull his ass on sunday ..After he put the ball on the ground and them threw two picks.. and lets not forget it was the defense that kept us in the game after the first td from the fumble that jason gave them. ans the fact that thier kicker sucks ass for that matter so don’t sit there and say well jason won us the game when he didn’t. now last year i stood up for this man.. He was in a west coast off like he was at alburn and that he would excell in that type of play but hey he still took a nose dive at the end of the season that is still going on today. so hell no i won’t kiss his ass, because every week he will do the same thing. over and over again
by confederate_gent on Oct 6, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I wasn’t screaming to pull him. I was hoping they came out in the second half like they did against Detroit except better. I have season tickets and I will never Boo our team. Never have, never will.
As for the fumble, I didn’t realize that our tackles and RG getting blown up so the pocket collapses so he has no where to go was Jason’s fault, my bad. Two sacks on the first two plays, damn Jason sucks. He had an awful first half but the fumble wasn’t his fault. He came out the second half and did what he had to do for us to get the win. Didn’t realize that would make you upset.
by travisjh86 on Oct 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is it the lines fault
that he can’t hold onto the ball? the sacks are the lines fault hyer can’t pass block worth a damn, but to blame the line because he can’t hold onto the ball is a EXCUSE!!!!! Never knew it was the line’s job to make sure he held onto the ball? and most of the time he could have avoided that by stepping up in the pocket.. i guess it’s the receivers fault that they are doubled covered and he tries to force it in there.. like i said it was our def that won us that game. 4 turn overs in a game (all on him i might add). and you say he won us that game? See this is what i am talking about here, you are willing to blame everybody else but jason for some reason and i don’t get it.. are we as fans that despreate for a superbowl that we are willing to say that a qb that would be a back up on most teams.. is the best qb we have had in ten years and that he will lead us back to the promise lands lets get real here..
by confederate_gent on Oct 7, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets not act like he is not in the top half of QB's in the league !!
CG , I call it like I see it go any other team blog and you will not read the crap about their QB that I read here !!
Jake D has had mutiple bad years he just has a great running game !! But he does not get the hate that JC 17 gets from some of you fake redskins fans !!
I am so tired of hearing about Todd Collins . He had been a backup in that offense for years that is why he did well in 2007 this is not the same offense !!!
CG,
When JC 17 has a great game this week will you still bash him ?? YES you will find something he did wrong or a reason that we won other than JC 17 !!
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had a great game last week?
when was the last time he had a great game? and you want to Put him in running with Qb’s like Joe flaco, drew breese, and manning jr,macnabb,Brett, and others? that is insane..
he reminds me of Rex Grossman last last week 4 turn overs in one game and your def wins the game for you.. hell the eagles back up QB is better than Jason.. the reason nobody is ragging on Jake D isn’t because he is white.. and i find that hard to believe the fans aren’t screaming for him to be pulled but if they aren’t it’s because he is a PROVEN QB.. Who has proven that he can take his team to the playoffs, and not do a nose dive at the end of the season…
see you are so hungry for a super bowl that you are willing to fool your self into thinking that he is a top half QB…. And because i see this fact i am a fake redskins fan?
by confederate_gent on Oct 8, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Top 15 QB look at the numbers !!
CG,
It amazes me that you bash JC 17 do you not see what he has around him ??
He has a moron for a coach ( Jim Zorn )!! a very weak offensive line, receivers that can not get open and a running back than can not pick up a tough yard !!!!
Besides the first half of last weeks game the top players on the redskins have been Flecther, Cooley and JC 17 !!!
LOOK AT HIS STATS AND GET BACK WITH ME !!! LOL
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 9, 2009 7:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you are making my point
2009 stats so far
1Peyton Manning
2Drew Brees
3Brett Favre
4Eli Manning
5Aaron Rodgers
6Matt Ryan
7Matt Schaub
8 Ben Roethlisberger
9Kyle Orton
10Joe Flacco
11Shaun Hill
12Philip Rivers
13Jay Cutler
14David Garrard
15Kevin Kolb
there are your 15 for this year so far sorry no Jason. and don’t try to say last year because he was number 20 in the qb’s…. But your right he is a top 5 QB in int thrown this year with 5, and is no 2 with fumbles lost, but yes those are every one Else’s fault huh
by confederate_gent on Oct 9, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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