Well, we yam what we yam and that's all what we yam
by CJHutch on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT
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I don't see spinach really helping us here, so I think it's time to face the muzack. No more booing after a 2 point win, no matter who it's to. No more Armageddon attitude after losing to a bad team. This is us, take it or leave it. We can lament the owner, the coaching staff, maybe even the QB. But we need to start being happy with a win, no matter who it's against.
Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying any of this to make excuses. I was disappointed with how we played. But I am happy with the win. And if you're not happy with a win at this point, then you need to look elsewhere for a team to cheer for.
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Maybe we're not that bad...
I was able to watch the second half ( lucky I missed the 1st half ) & if you missed it the Skins looked good, & I mean really good:o) Remember a couple of years ago, the Giants sucked & they were going to fire their coach & then they pulled off a big upset win & ended up winning the Super Bowl ( & no I am not saying we are going to win the SB ) but the boys did look good today, & they played with heart & yes JC did have three int.s but he played well & with everything he had. Go Skins… Win or Lose this is the team we Love
HTTR HTTR HTTR
Back at .500!
Now let’s get it rolling!
I know I said I wouldn’t wake up early to watch this one, but I just couldn’t help myself. Was sure Campbell was going to get pulled after that first half, but somehow stayed in and threw 2 back to back TDs. That one to Santana was awesome! Some excitement is what we needed.
You’re right. We need to lower our expectations and accept that we will be a team who grinds it out every week no matter who we play.
Let’s grind it into the playoffs!
I enjoyed todays' game
That’s what the NFL is about…entertainment. And today, the Skins entertained. The offense played with enthusiasm and staged a second-half comeback (something new this year). The defense played aggressively and finally shut someone down on third downs. Made a nice defensive stand at the end of the game. All in all, a fun game to watch.
If the Redskins can entertain like today for the rest of the season, I’ll consider it successful. Wins and losses aren’t everything (did I just say that???).
Well, thank God for
Alzheimer’s, huh? What did you, forget the plays as they happened? I guess sometimes it is beneficial to be a relic.
I am happy with the win, but I’m not sure “entertaining” is the word I’d use for that 1st half. If I had hair, I would’ve pulled it all out by intermission.
TB's points
came off of Campbell’s turnovers. This was one of Campbell’s worst games with 4 turnovers. He was like a 4 cylinder engine running on 2 cylinders. The Portis picked up the running game some. It looked like he still had some moves.
There were some missed tackles on special teams. Cartwright missed at least one.
At this point, a win is a win.
by Jefferson1935 on Oct 4, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact that
Campbell came back strong after 3 first half turnovers to make some huge throws and big plays with his feet in the third quarter says a lot about his heart. The fact that the defense overcame those blunders to make some big plays themselves showed that they still have it. The fact that Shaun freakin’ Suisham stepped up in a big way to keep the punting from being a liability shows that…. I don’t know what it shows, but it sure was sweet.
And that last defensive play was perfect (JARMON!!! HORTON!!!) Man a win feels good.
We kinda got what we wanted to see !
Jeremy Jarmon and he made a huge play !!! Helllllllll yeaaaaaaaaa !!!!
Lighten up CJ
You’re right, the first half sucked. But the skins did some good things in the second half. And, I’d rather have a good second half and win, than a good fist half and lose. Been there, done that too many times.
Campbell threw 3 pics, but still led the team to scores when it counted.
The defense looked like shit against the run in the first half, but stiffened and held TB in the second half.
And, as for the Alzheimers, I really am doing much better. The docs say that with a little luck, I may be able to leave the home on weekends.
Oh, yeah…if ya need hair, I got some to loan. It’s grey, but it’s there!
by grandpa grouse on Oct 4, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm light
don’t get me wrong, I was just saying that that first half was hard to watch. The 2nd half has me a little giddy at this point. Sure, it was just the Bucs. But if there’s anything we’ve learned over the past several years around here, it’s that we have to take every team seriously. So the fact that we battled back 16 down while shutting out a PROFESSIONAL team makes me happy.
Was I upset with Campbell’s performance? Of course. But I was happier with his 2nd half performance than I was upset with his 1st half debacle. While I readily admit that JC has his faults, that game proved his resolve. He showed the ability to make plays when many QB’s would have crumbled or packed it in after playing so awful in the first half. All the JC haters who want to chide him for his 4 turnovers – fine. He deserves it. But you have to be equally willing to praise him for the comeback, realizing that PLENTY of NFL QB’s have had awful performances, and not all of them are able to bounce back IN GAME and pull out the win.
ie, Tony Oh-No
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
A PLAYOFF RUN
This team is not going on any playoff run. Yes I’m happy with the win but I think it’s delusional to believe that this team is going on a playoff run. Especially after what I witnessed this afternoon. Do you realize how tough our schedule get’s after the Kansas City game. I hope I have to come on hear and eat some crow but I JUST don’t see that happening. I also know that the current status of our front office ineptitude has been beaten like a dead horse on HH but this teams future seems grim. I hope I’m wrong and a win is a win, I guess.
Not many teams
on your schedule will give you the luxury of allowing three sacks, allowing your QB to throw 3 picks and lose a fumble and still pull off a win
you guys don’t look very good. With that said, you’re tied for 3rd in the division at a respectable 2-2 and only a half game behind us…
The season’s a long way from over, and if you guys can rally for the rest of it, like they rallied for the 2nd half you have the potential to be competitive.
"What did it feel like? That collision, I didn't feel nothing, because he was pretty much defenseless. It was like running through a cardboard box. Seriously. Cardboard box."- Sheldon Brown on his pounding of Reggie Bush in the '06 Playoffs
And
This week is not last week, and will not be future weeks
So, not to concerned about 3 picks in one game it does not happen often and should not be a future pattern.
Winning games in the second half are exciting, for those who understand it and get to enjoy it.
what's this?
hope from an Eagles fan?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
Yes, We ARE what We are
And a WIN is a WIN, The Redskins are 2-2 and could sneak into the playoffs because they are the middle of the pack. Hopefully, we are seeing the continuation of playing down to their competition.
The reality is as CJ states, A REAL NFL coach will make a difference, but again it will be starting over for the Redskins to build continuity. The FO and VP are not changing I’m sad to say, but if they can stay focused on the younger players and stop chasing the big name FA, there is hope. Jarmon, Orkapo, Horton, Tyron, Kelly and others are coming around and playing well. Redksins will remain a middle of the pack team until the coaching and players establish continuity and build a team, instead of building a one year wonder and hope
I have to give it to you CJ
You said we should run the ball and stop throwing so much and look what happened. Granted, Campbell looked abnormally bad today, but I was impressed overall with our run blocking and with Portis— he looked a lot more like himself toady.
I thought to myself, “here we go again” in the first half with the offense and defense looking like crap, for the lack of a better term. However, the offense and defense came out firing in the second half, specifically the third quarter. I just don’t understand why we can never come out and play a complete game and why we always play down to our competition’s level.
Call me crazy, but I could see this team getting on some type of streak and getting hot. It’s not too far-fetched to think this team could get wins against the Chiefs and Panthers and even the Eagles. You never know…
I’d rather us start off bad and end up being good than being good in the beginning and end up being bad in the end (like last year).
Almost as good as a win is the fact that Dallas lost (which I thought they would do).
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!
Portis got nearly 100 yds....
against the 31st ranked running defense in the league. Yes, it was better, but…
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
actually
I agree. But we have to stick with MY plan. :-) (that’s my cheese-eating grin for always being so goddamed right)
In all seriousness, that’s an easy call. It seems to be a recurring theme with us (aggravatingly so) that we open the year intent on becoming the 70’s Chargers, then come back to Earth a few games in and realize that we do better running the ball, or at least with a balanced attack. The year of the “Sean Taylor run.” That was done after re-committing to Portis. (NOT because of Todd Collins) Same with Gibbs’ first playoff run. That’s our identity. That’s “Redskins Football.”, I don’t care WHO the coach is or WHAT kind of system he tries to bring in. Samuels, Dockery, Rabach, and even Rinehart – they’re all road graders. (Heyer? not so much) It’s time we accept that fact and use it to win some games.
Why
do people keep saying that we are playing down to our competition ? Obviously we are not any better than these other teams
So you honestly
Believe that we don’t have anymore talent than the Buccaneers? You seriously believe that they’re just as good as us?
and that's called
Playing down to the competition
More talent but not playing as its true
by dr WNC on Oct 4, 2009 9:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
OK jackass
this was supposed to be a POSITIVE post. Why don’t you go back to your tree house of despair and perfect your secret hand shake instead of coming on here and trying to get the rest of us thinking doom and gloom, the world is ending and McDonald’s is the best we’re ever gonna do.
No, we are not very good RIGHT NOW. But try looking at your Supersize Value meal soda as half full. We tried the "coming out of the gates guns-a-blazing approach last year, and look where it got us. Now we’re NOT too full of ourselves, meaning maybe the team will actually keep trying to get better DURING the season. Even your drive thru manager knows that the best teams peak around November. There is still the chance that we could be looking at these last few weeks as building blocks. You have to taste defeat before you can WANT victory. Think of it as starting out as the fry cook, then moving to the cash register. You KNOW you don’t want to go back to that deep fryer, grease spitting out and burning pock marks in your already ugly-enough mug all day. So once you get a taste of that register (not to mention the few extra bucks a day you pocket instead of ringing up those apple pies), you don’t wanna go back to that fryer. Maybe that’s what will happen to this team. NOW to you understand??
geeze CJ
now tell ’im how you really feel
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Oh
he KNOWS how I feel. Just wait ’til I find his treehouse. Him and his cousin are gonna have to find a new place to play with their secret decoder rings and look at their Mighty Mouse comic books after I use that damned tree as kindling.
Mighty Mouse comic books
who the hell is mighty mouse? ::grin::
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
Here I come to save the dayyyyyyyy!!!
That’s Mighty Mouse!
by grandpa grouse on Oct 5, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
see
gramps knows Mighty Mouse. He was buyin’ those comics for a nickel before his family got their first AM radio.
this only serves to show the average age of HH users
I'm to young to Die Danny...don't make me do it tomorrow....
funny doc
But, what the hell is public tv?
by grandpa grouse on Oct 5, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
It was that fourth station I got up in PA
21 and 43, had to twist this little circle thing on the back of the TV. 2 and 13 were our top channels along with 8
And still watched a lot of TV including Mighty Mouse and Bull Winkle
Loved Bullwinkle
especially Fractured Fairy Tales. They don’t make tv like that anymore!
by grandpa grouse on Oct 5, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
nickel hell
they was a penney a piece back when.
by grandpa grouse on Oct 5, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
lol I dont work at mcdonalds
And if you dont like what I have to say then dont read it you slop jawed faggot , Maybe you should try to get laid and you wont be so high strung
laid is the
LAST thing I need to do. Everytime I do that, I end up with a kid. Speakin’ of, can I get a couple of free Happy meal coupons?
lol
they fired me for stealing happy meal coupons and playing on the slides while I was on the clock
wow!
CJ called you a Jackass and you called him a Faggot. What’s next kids?
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I wouldn't put it past you
and since they must be on your mind because you have a pile of em stacked up by your bedside.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
the expected reply
from the guy who has a stack of em by his bedside
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
I thought...
we played under our competition in the first half. In fact, the first half was so bad it completely ruined the second half for me. Except I’ll take the win.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
But its a good thing
we were not playing a team with a good offense ! Because our asses would have paid for those 3 INT and the outcome would have been much different !!
or
The Redskins would not have turned the ball over 3 times when playing a good offense because they are playing down or up to the level of the team they are playing. Which makes them a top half club who’s going to have to scratch and claw to make the playoffs. Why the interceptions today, starting to get ready for carolina and want to play at their level
by dr WNC on Oct 4, 2009 10:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I will take a win by 3 points....
Every game……including the Super Bowl. Don’t jump me….not saying we are going to the SB……just saying….if we win every game by 3 points…..I am fine with that. A win is a win. Say we go 10-6…..all wins by 3 points or fewer…..get hot….run through the Super Bowl winning by no more than 3 points a game….who cares then? Will there be an asterick by our win in the Football records book bc we couldn’t demolish anyone? I don’t think so! Before I get jumped by non-true-Skin fans……I am not saying any of this will happen…..not saying I think we are going to the SB……just making the simple point that, a WIN is a WIN!!!!! I will take the W everytime, no matter how it comes! Go Skins! HTTR
NO, eff that
go ahead VD-boy, you can say it SUPERBOWL!!! We are no worse than Arizona was at this time last year. Well, record wise at least. Sure, they could score more points in a month than we could score in a season, but our defense is better.
We've scored
almost as many points as AZ so far this year, 56 to 57. We are also tied for 6th in points allowed with 62. There is plenty of hope, yet.
Of course, New Orleans has almost tripled our scoring. They’ve outscored their opponents by a ridiculous 78.
exactly
“I was disappointed with how we played. But I am happy with the win. And if you’re not happy with a win at this point, then you need to look elsewhere for a team to cheer for.”
It was about the ugliest win I can imagine but it was a win. I watched the games with a friend who is a Bucs fan and neither of us were talking trash…we were just shaking our heads.
Recent memory
Rams game comes to mind as uglier or just as ugly.
Winning ugly—>As long as they are winning…
And the word of the day is?
MOMENTUM: Momentum because for better or worse, that is the only thing I can see this team having at the moment (no pun intended). Momentum is a funny thing. A team that is on a roll can beat a much better team that isn’t. That’s why I’m praying for momentum.
…..and yes, Winning Ugly sure is Pretty! Especially when the Cowgirlies lose on the same day. So no matter what the “Self-Righteous” Skins Fans (SRSF’s..?) may say about us Complaining Skins Fans (CSF’s)….
Go Skins anyway!
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
We would have to...
be improving, technically, to gather momentum. What I saw mostly was retro. Thank god the Bucs are as bad as advertised, we could not have pulled that win off against almost any other team, is my guess.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
This is the tune of the Day...however
Tampa is as bad as their record. And as bad as the Redskins played in all (4) FOUR games this year, which game did they have no chance to WIN…In my opinion none!
So, be it the Giants, Rams, Lions or Tampa the Redskins were in the game and could have pulled out a win or a larger victory.
And be it Carolina, KC, Eagles or Atlanta the Redskins will be in the games with a chance to win. If they go 4-0 it will be no better than going 2-2 during the first 4 games. It’s the way the REDSKINS ARE PLAYING, and being coached.
yes but..
if you’re rolling you can still beat most anybody. The good teams will have momentum of their own and will have no problem stopping our momentum. This is why we are so fortunate to get to play 2 more winless teams before that happens.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
OK ScottEE
it’s time to beam you up. There are obviously no optimistic life forms down there where you are.
be improving, technically, to gather momentum. What I saw mostly was retro.
Actually, we did improve. From the 1st half to the 2nd. Sure, it’s not the form of improvement we were all looking for, but you’ve gotta start somewhere. I say we take the fact that after the worst half of the season, we had our best half of the season – and move on (and hopefully UP) from there.
I really wish...
we didn’t have to take a step backward before we are allowed to move forward. Some resemblance to continuous improvement would be ideal. Hope that lies in the near future.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
hey look
it’s the fence riding waffler. Welcome back to the Bandwagon. Take your normal spot on the bumper, where it’s easier to hop off ( and hopefully get run over by a Dundalk Ravens fan in their Not-So-Smart Car) after a bad showing.
JK. Seriously though, was it easier to come back after the Violet Fowls got cheated by the Pastry-ots?
Exactly
Better to be sucking and barely hanging then going 6-2….then tanking it in the second half.
Hopefully, like Redskins run the season as they have in the games this year, being a 2nd half team.
Play as a team during the 3rd and 4th qtr of the schedule and the team could make the playoffs
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