Redskins Player Evaluations: Trick or Treat?
by KevinE on Oct 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT
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In the spirit of Halloween and the BYE week, I thought I'd do a mid-season evaluation and tag the Redskins players as trick or treat based on their performance (players I thought who have been medium are not included). I gotta say, it's nice diving back into the stats and getting away from all the "banned signed" coverage for a bit.
Let's start with the treats:
London Fletcher - 65 tackles, league leader. This can also be considered a bad stat since that means a.) You're on the field too long, and b.) other players aren't making tackles. The next 4 closest people in tackles behind him play for (BUF, CLE, OAK, and TAM). London gets the top treat because he is the only vocal leader on our team and has continued to work hard to motivate our guys. Leader by example is the perfect title for London. I can't imagine the Redskins defense without him.
Albert Haynesworth - He has lived up to his contract and despite the Redskins 5 losses, he still plays 100% and has shown his competitiveness yelling in the locker room. Everything we expected he would bring to our offense has happened with Andre Carter totaling 6.5 sacks (6th rank) and Orakpo 3.5 sacks.
Hayesnworth has 3 sacks, 21 tackles (16 solo), and 1 recovered fumble.
Rocky McIntosh - 2 forced fumbles and 35 tackles. He's shown he has deserved a contract extension, but at this point, a.) Will the Skins pay him, and b.) Why wouldn't he want to move to a team with a better chance to win?
Chris Cooley - 8th ranked TE with 29 catches despite a sputtering offense. Imagine if Cooley played for the Saints? Chris' play on the field speaks for itself, and his bond with the fans via his blog cannot be underestimated, not to mention the over and beyond amount of charity work he does.
Hunter Smith - Hunter Smith is the 15th ranked punter when it comes to Net Average (38.8), which is the best of his career. He has also been the rock for Suisham's consistently good field goal kicking.
OK, now for the tricks....and there's a lot of them:
Devin Thomas & Malcolm Kelly: Everything we saw in training camp has not translated to the pre-season or regular season. I do not have an explanation for it, but it is frustrating and it has hurt our offense. A lot of the passing plays Campbell doesn't even give a look their way, so they can't take the full blame.
Thomas: 7 games, 71 yards, 1 TD, 0 Fumbles
Kelly: 7 games, 73 yards, 0 TD, 0 Fumbles
Laron Landry: Laron is another one of those players everyone (coaches included) expected to make the jump to the "premier" safety, and it hasn't happened.
Landry: 0 INTs, 1 pass defended, 1 forced fumble.
He does however have the same average # of tackles per game (approx 5.0) as the elite free safeties (Reed and Polamalu). There is a bright spot in that he is the 6th ranked FS in tackles with 35 (covering for all of the corners' missed tackles), but looking at the free safeties ahead of him in tackles, DET, STL, SEA, DEN, NE, there are some solid guys there (Dawkins, Atogwe, Babineaux). The frustrating part is that all the safeties above him have at least one INT. Laron has all the physical skills to be that guy, but I'm still unsure as to whether it's his instincts or the fact Blache has him playing 30 yards off the line of the scrimmage that is the real problem. Either way, Washington does not have a "ball-hawk" safety.
Last and definitely least...
Vinny Cerrato: I would be here all day if I listed out everyone on the offensive line, but my major two gripes are with Stephon Heyer and Chad Rinehart. These were both guys expected to make the jump to serviceable starters, and that gamble has failed miserably (Chad has only played in 2 games). It is crystal clear we have no talent for evaluating our current offensive line talent, and that is killing this franchise.
To add insult to injury, Jason Taylor currently has 5.5 sacks in Miami. The Redskins paid him $8 million last year and Miami is paying him $1.5 million this year. Awesome...and they got a 2nd round pick and 6th round pick from the Redskins.
Who are your trick and treats?
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Might have to begrudingly give a treat to Justin Tryon
Seems he’s a decent nickleback. That’s progress.
Trick to Mike Sellers. Apparently he has completely forgotten how to block and be an animal.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Oct 30, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mike Sellers
Another reason to mention the importance of drafting. Paying vets at the end of their careers that type of money always leads to mediocrity. Good Job Vinny :)
by skinsymets on Oct 30, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He only make $650,000
Thats nothing in the grand scheme of things. That was just “shut up” money to snyder.
by monk81 on Nov 2, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Jason Taylor thing
is just unfreekingbelievable. Who comes up with these DEALS?? I thought JT was dead as a player. But, guess what? If you use him to his natural strengths and abilities – he can play!! What a waste of freeking time and money…
Yes, London is the real deal. Always a treat. Never lets BS get in his head and bother him.
Cooley – bittersweet treat. Stay at home and we’ll see you next year – pahleeze!
Funny you didn’t mention JC? I guess because to talk about JC it gets real complicated in a hurry. What factors are majorly affecting his performance on any given play?
- Play calling? Zorn? O-Line? Recievers? Himself not being able to rise to overcome all of the above? Overall, I think a trick.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly right...
Campbell was actually the first trick I wrote, but it was getting long-winded and covered all the same arguments we have on daily basis anyway. It’s clear he has trouble seeing the field and avoiding the rush, so he’s definitely a trick in the sense he didn’t make that next step (ie – 2nd year under Zorn’s system, the red shirt WRs he worked with all off-season would step up, blah, blah)….JC didn’t make that next step, but at the same time, he’ll probably succeed when he goes elsewhere to a system that has a pass protection. There have been a lot of HUGE dropped balls and misplays in the red zone that are not his fault, so yea, easier just to pass on this one.
by KevinE on Oct 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dan Snyder is the house that gave out apples
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
by smutsboy1 on Oct 30, 2009 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea Right
You know he gives out expired Johnny Rockets meat and old Six Flags coupons
by pas493 on Oct 30, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wondered about that Scientology thing
Is that why we’ve become such a risky business? Tom is his mentor? We are soooooo screwed.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 31, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not ready to condemn Devin Thomas. I thought it was a bad move at the beginning of the year to give Kelly the starting spot over him, and it took him 5 games to accumulate those 73 yards, which I guess was enough to make someone on the coaching staff realize that it was Thomas they should have been starting all along. The Philly game was his second game as a starter this year and he got 45 yards and a touchdown, against the second-hardest opponent we’ve faced this year. He looked better than Moss out there in that game. Did you see him fighting for a first down on a third down catch four yards short of the marker? He pushed a defender the whole way and made that first. If he can keep playing like that, he might just be a worthy addition to our team by the end of the year. I’ll need to see more than one game before I can be sure, but I’m happy with what I saw from him on Monday.
by andrewtsks on Oct 30, 2009 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Laron Landry
It would seem that a similar comment that you made for Fletcher might also apply to Landry. “He does however have the same average # of tackles per game (approx 5.0) as the elite free safeties (Reed and Polamalu). There is a bright spot in that he is the 6th ranked FS in tackles with 35 (covering for all of the corners’ missed tackles), but looking at the free safeties ahead of him in tackles, DET, STL, SEA, DEN, NE, there are some solid guys there (Dawkins, Atogwe, Babineaux).” Poor Det, StL, and Sea defenses may result in more safety tackles, but on the other hand that analysis does not apply to Den and NE.
Somewhat like your preseason roster analysis, i.e., 25 offense, 25 defense, and 3 special teams players, of the current 53 players who will be on the 2010 Redskins, i.e., depth position roster?
by Jefferson1935 on Oct 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vinny fails at life
I just feel like saying that.
by killianskid34 on Oct 31, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
More like catastrophic failure...
as he is taking the entire Redskins Nation down with him. Just like Millen, take the bucks and screw everyone. Don’t tell me these guys aren’t smart enough to know that they are failing at their jobs and therefore screwing everyone. Dan probably doesn’t want to fire his “little buddy” because he realizes there is nothing this jerk is qualified to do. I wouldn’t trust Vinny to be able to place the goal line markers in the correct spot.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 31, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Matt Millen blaming everything on the players on MNF
That’s Millen auditioning for the GM job, just wait and see!
by skinsymets on Oct 31, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jason taylor is the biggest trick of all. u know who else is a trick is casey rabach. how many freaking horrible snaps have there been
by bloodbat on Nov 1, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jason Taylor?......you mean Vinny Ceratto
The person who traded away half our draft and stuck him on the opposite side of the line that he has played his whole career is the trick. Taylors playing well in Miami again, that’s not a coincidense. It’s happening right now with other players. Orakpo playing LB is a crime. But what’s the real reason reason he has to play their? It’s to cover up the gaping hole at that position. Why is there a gaping hole their? It’s called bad management. Orakpo could be one of if not the best taken in the 1st round if he was let to play his natural position. What do you expect when we have two former waterboys starting at both tackles.
So now not only do most of the best coaches turn down the Skins, draft picks will start picking up on this and at some point you might see them saying they will hold out if Washington picks them.
Washington will NEVER come close to winning anything as long as Vinny has anything to do with the Skins.
by skinsymets on Nov 2, 2009 8:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tricks and treats
TRICKS
Snyder – For reverting back to your meddlesome ways and further alienating your fans by failed attempts at controlling them and the media.
Cerrato – For failing to take responsibility for not addressing our OL and for a completely botched 2009 draft (other than Orakpo).
Zorn – Like a wise man once said, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” Zorn is still in denial.
Campbell – For not living up to expectations.
Heyer – For wasting a whole off-season by not getting better and somehow getting worse.
Sellers – For taking the money and then taking off plays.
Rogers – For not catching INTs and giving up TDs/big plays.
Hall – For tackling like a little girl.
TREATS
Haynesworth – For coming in and proving why you are the best DT in the NFL and therefore shutting up the cynics/critics.
Fletcher – For being a professional and always bringing your A-game. Please get this guy in the Pro Bowl.
Carter – For taking advantage of Haynesworth’s addition on your way to another double-digit sack season.
Orakpo – For showing why you were the highest ranked college DE in the draft, despite being played out of position most of the season.
Jarmon – For exceeding expectations and coming in ready to play a year before you were supposed to.
Doughty – For playing at a fairly high level considering your physical setbacks.
Horton – For continuing to play well and with maximum effort even though you were unfairly made an example of. And for being the lone bright spot from the 2008 draft, despite being a late round pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Nov 1, 2009 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
always with the smart replys Va_Skin
me thinks you are spot on pretty much all the way through (from what little I ahve seen and the copious amounts I have read) just a couple of things
should have made the point that Horton being a good late round pick is actually an indictment on Vinny and not a good thing as we could have lost him to 32 other teams as we decided to take that dud Punter in the 6th round, which shows it was pure luck to get him
and
I think Cartwright should be included in the treats, watched my first full game against the Eagles and he really seems to, as we say in Australia, “Rip In” he doesnt just hit people to bring them down, he hits them to hurt them, and all the games I have seen in the last few years he has been just as good…….
Pommylee
by Pommylee on Nov 1, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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