Interview with an Eagles Fan regarding the Redskins MNF game
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 2:56 PM EDT
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It's time for another exciting installment of Interview with a Fan. A great friend of mine, Jimmy Mac, has lived in Philly pretty much his whole life, with a brief stint in Baltimore commuting from his time as Monty and Manager at Rosecroft Race Track in MD. So, gambling comes into play here. He's must have heard the "How many Super Bowls you got?" comeback from me at least 13.5 gazillion times, but with the current state of the Redskins, I've shelved that one for an undetermined amount of time. I hit Jimmy with 5 questions:
1.) Why does Andy Reid refuse to run the ball?
2.) How much does Witherspoon add to a depleted LB core?
3.) Six weeks in, any regrets letting Dawkins go?
4.) Has McNabb lost a step?
5.) Barbaro trash talk and Game Prediction.
Hogs Haven: Philadelphia had 60 offensive plays vs the Raiders (a whopping 46 of them passes and just 12 of them runs) - despite the fact that Brian Westbrook gained 50 yards on just six carries. 0 Wildcat plays with Vick. The Raiders have a 28th ranked defense against the run (145.3 ypg)....any explanations why Andy Reid refuses to run the ball? This has killed the Birds it seems at least 1 game a year.
Andy Reid's game-plan versus the Raiders (as most cases against bad teams) is to take them out early with the pass, get a huge lead, and then run later in the second half. Obviously, the plan did not work. Here is Reid's biggest weakness as a head coach; it is making adjustments in-game when the original game plan did not work. Reid refused to run the ball and continued to throw the ball every down even though the Raiders can't stop the run and King Dunlap was getting literally run over by Seymour and McNabb was taking a beating. To most observers, this was unexplainable. Most every Eagle fan can explain it very simply: Arrogance. Reid refuses to make adjustments when things aren't working because he believes his way is the best way and he will go down with the ship throwing the ball. We have seen it for a decade and its sickening. The Eagles will either blow out teams or lose the game. Either Reid's initial game plan works and they win big or he will make no adjustments and the ship will sink. Simple as that.
Hogs Haven: It's now Week 7 and Macho Harris seems to be having a so-so year. What's your sentiment now on if the Eagles should have re-signed Dawkins?
The Trotter re-signing is basically the Eagles admitting they totally screwed up by not resigning Dawk. I don't think they brought back a 31yo LB who hasn't played in 2 years and couldn't run 3 years ago for his athletic ability. Harris will be a good player and isn't doing a bad job on the field as a rookie.
Hogs Haven: How much does the addition of Will Witherspoon help the Birds this week? I'm glad to see someone else suffer with Trotter besides the Redskins, but Witherspoon does have good skills covering TEs, which is basically the Redskins only offensive weapon.
Witherspoon will be an upgrade at MLB if he shows up Monday and doesn't get hurt in pre game warm-ups. Why Trotter was on the field in obvious passing downs is unbelievable. So is not knowing how many timeouts you have and getting a delay of game in the hurry-up 2 minute drill. But I digress, some things you just can't answer. It's a safe assumption the Redskins offensive game plan will be revolve around Cooley.
Hogs Haven: McNabb always gets away from the first pass rusher...the first Raider was getting him to the ground. Are you noticing anything about McNabb that makes you think he has lost a step?
McNabb hasn't lost a step. To me, I've seen this a few times throughout his career. When the O-line is getting beat and McNabb is getting knocked around and sacked, he seems to me that he starts to expect it every time he drops back and almost willfully takes a sack even though he may have been able to escape that first rusher with a little maneuvering. It's very annoying.
Hogs Haven: What do you think will happen first...the Eagles win a Super Bowl or the Barbaro comes back from the dead and wins the Triple Crown?
Not sure about Barbaro, but I would guess that if Vegas were to set a line on who would win a Super Bowl first, the Eagles or the Redskins, it would be somewhere around Eagles -100,000 and Redskins +750,000. What a cluster **** you got going on down there. I almost feel bad for you guys, almost.
[Switching to IM]
Hogs Haven: Prediction...
Jimmy: 34-14. I think it would be a very close game if we won last week, id even say the skins outright. Since we lost, you will get buried. Reid off a loss is really, really good.
Hogs Haven: 14 will be our 3rd down conversion % or sacks against. We can't score against D's that give up 400+ yards a game ON AVERAGE. I can't wait to see what a top 5 team Defense does...3 of our current 5 offensive lineman were either undrafted or out of the league last year.
Jimmy: 14 pts because cooley will have a big game. You will be down big and won't go for a FG and maybe a turnover, TD. If the Skins get blown out, they'll get a meaningless late TD.
Hogs Haven: I'll take the under at 11.
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I have a good feeling about this game
This is where I’d offer analysis and facts to back up my "good feeling:. But i’m just gonna call it a hunch.
by monk81 on Oct 22, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think...
that being on MNF, the players will rise to the occasion just not to be embarrassed nationwide. Unfortunately, I almost wish them disaster just to make FO look bad and add to pressure on Snyder to capitulate to the Revolution!
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
don't think ya gotta worry
about the FO embarrassing themselves. They been doin it for 10 years now.
by grandpa grouse on Oct 22, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, but the national media hasn't been blasting them
mike & Mike have dedicated at least 10 mins a day for three days straight blasting the Redskins…we are a national joke and that hasnt happened in Snyder’s tenure.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to go into the game expecting a blowout
that way I won’t be disappointed. I’m not going to let this team upset me anymore this year. I’m even going to try to laugh at the playcalling if it is atrocious.
It’s weird, bringing in a complete outsider to make those decisions alleviates a lot of my disappointment with the way things have done. Because I like Zorn a lot and I hated seeing him be so stupid. I don’t give a shit about Lewis and I just see him as an extension of Snyderatto (and therefore, the enemy). Basically I’m going to see every successful play as a victory for the players for succeeding in the face of an impossible situation and every unsuccessful play as a failure of the front office.
It’s a win-win situation for Zorn and the players from here on out.
I will take a win.
For achieving NOTHING… EVER, the iggles fans are soooo confident. I don’t get it. The are the embarrassment of the superbowl era… I mean, yeah the Bills and Vikings lost four superbowls, but to four five NFC Championship games in an inferior NFC… Throw in one Benedict Arnold to lose in the dance…. Wow they should be the ones to wear paper bags.
At least we really know that we are doomed…. Break out the brooms for the second straight year!!!!!!!
by brettpedigo on Oct 22, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
we know that we're doomed?
half the people on here predicted playoffs this year, and week after week, predict victory for our sorry 2009 team.
an unfortunately large percentage of the fan base is still in denial about the state of the franchise.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
I am well aware of how terrible our franchise is
but I will never cease to predict a victory for the burgundy and gold. HAIL!
by CarverM on Oct 22, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lack of whining
isn’t a sign of denial it’s just not being an annoying twat who offers no substantive analysis.
by BayAreaBullet on Oct 22, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We sure are confident that we will win a Super Bowl before the redskins. Would you really take the Redskins before any other team in the NFL right now? I wouldnt.
We sure are confident that we will win a Super Bowl before the redskins.
We already have 3 home boy, which means we beat you too it, sorry. I’m pretty confident your SB case will always look like this…
you really went “home boy” on me? I forgot what it was like living down there for a few years..Im not at all concerned about what the redskins won 18 years ago, but im happy for you..whatever makes you sleep well at night. Your organization is presently the laughing stock of the most popular sports league in the world..you have to live with that every day..i do almost feel bad for you
Most popular sports league in the world
I didn’t realize the Skins were the laughing stock of the Premier League.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 2:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
is that a fact?
if it is, if Snyder owned one of those teams, im very confident that team would be just as embarrasing
Didn’t you just lose to the Raiders? And shouldn’t your quarterback know after playing in the league for 10 years that you only get 3 timeouts per half.
At Least we have 3 Lombardi’s to remember our glory days, all you have is this…
The worst thing for a fanbase is when fans of other teams in your division pity you. Yes, redskins/eagles games used to have meaning and be huge games, same with redskins/cowboys. presently, no dallas/eagles/giants fan gives a flying crap about redskins week. The skins are irrelevant. Now put your teeth in, you hillbilly, and get back to work on the farm
Now put your teeth in, you hillbilly, and get back to work on the farm
Have you ever been to DC? Its not a really big agricultural/farming community, but nice try though.
No one cares about playing the Redskins any more? Thats strange? What about when we whooped your ass twice last year? Why are 3 of our 6 divisional games in prime time this year? I’m really not sure whether or not you really know anything about football or geography.
Not many hillbillies in DC, but there sure are enough of them at Fedex on Sundays. Not many Northern VA hillbillies huh?
Is this how eagle fans feel better about themselves?
By going on other sites and talking s**t? Well done. You seem smart. Now fly away!
by monk81 on Oct 22, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jim, have you even been to Fedex?
I know you haven’t been there at least in 5 years. I went to the MNF game at the Linc with you that one time….your fanbase ain’t to purty/classy either.
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Link to fan demographics
The ‘hillbilly’ ref was a bit odd, so I looked up some demographic info. Basically DC leads in % fans with college degrees and earn the most $.
by liger99 on Oct 22, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leaders
Fans who are college graduates: Washington, D.C., 20 percent.
Fans who are African-American: Washington, D.C, 12.8 percent.
Fans who earn over $75,000: Washington, D.C., 30.7 percent.
Fans who earn over $100,000: Washington, D.C., 21.4 percent.
Sounds like a pack of hillbillies to me
its not odd at all..the majority of skins fans are from the DC suburbs. DC is one of the most transient cities in the country. (one of the main reasons why DC is a terrible sports town) Ive almost been run over by a pack of hillbillies in the lot at Fedex in their pimped F150. I worked in the area for 2 years. There are hillbilly skins fans everywhere. The demographic stats regarding college degrees in DC is obvious, no one needed to review it for me to understand that, im talking about the majority of skins fans who do not live in DC
Because the DC area has jobs....
unlike the shitty as state you live in! What a dump. Not sure why anyone wastes their time arguing with people from Philly.
not true!!
there’s plenty of jobs for strippers and asian massagers
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, Clinton isn't a referee
just a spokesman.
Hey, I'll take hillbilly any day
alot less offensive than the guidos up there.
by CarverM on Oct 22, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rosecroft is in the hood, working there is not going to give you a good idea of the typical Skins fan. Most Skins fans are from Montgomery and Fairfax county and wouldn’t know what an f150 is…let alone harass someone at a game.
Like there isn’t a ton of Hicks in PA. Not to mention most Eagles fans are from Jersey.
by BayAreaBullet on Oct 22, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Eastern Shore of Maryland
Lot of Skins fans here. I drive from Salisbury to go to the home games at CrapEx Field
by williamhudsonlink on Oct 22, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Way to stay classy and
thanks for showing your intelligence. I’m sure fellow eagle fans appreciate it.
by skinsymets on Oct 22, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
oops, accidentally pressed post
Let me elaborate
As a lot of people have said before, the Redskins play up or down to their competition. And add in the fact that it’s an NFC East game, I have a hard time believing this game will be a blowout. I wouldn’t be surprised if we lost, but I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if we won either.
Now, a lot of the pessimistic commenters on Hogs Haven will say that I’m not being realistic, but in actuality I am. Everyone that thought the Raiders would beat the Eagles please raise your hand… Now if you raised your hand, lower it, and slap yourself in the face for lying. Realistically, no one knows what’s going to happen against the Eagles, and that’s the way I’m going into this game, expecting the unexpected. Plus this information has gotten me a little giddy about our offense:
Chris Carter and Antonio Freeman commenting on Lewis’ playcalling.
Lewis liked to have the Vikings’ line up in three-receiver sets, Carter said. Former Green Bay receiver Antonio Freeman corroborated that. They also recalled Lewis’ affinity for big wideouts.
“The big receivers are going to run your underneath routes, those crossing routes, slants and drag routes—and that’s what this offense needs,” said Freeman, who’s now an analyst for Comcast SportsNet. "They need a big guy to get those third-and-4’s and -5’s and help Jason Campbell to have an outlet.
“A lot of times for a bigger quarterback, it’s hard to find those [smaller] guys when you want to run a true West Coast offense with slants and crossing routes.”
“When he was the coordinator, he wanted to go deep,” Freeman said. “He wanted to take shots down the field. He took shots and put guys in the right positions with his play calls to be able to take advantage of one-on-one opportunities.”
Freeman gushed over Lewis’ work in the red zone and on third downs, areas in which the Redskins have struggled significantly this season.
“The red zone was his true specialty,” he said. “He knew how to spread defenses out and get the ball to guys to score points.”
No, I’m not saying or even thinking that we’ll be an offensive juggernaut all of a sudden, but the little things like using a big receiver on 3rd and 4, can be the difference between punting the ball away, or gaining a first down and marching down the field and scoring. Plus, according to Freeman, Lewis actually knew what he was doing when the offense got into the red zone, which means we should see a few fade routes to our big receivers. Call me overly optimistic if you want, but I call myself a Redskins fan.
by bigrm18 on Oct 22, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
our offensive line won't let us do anything of the sort.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
Maybe, maybe not
We don’t know that for a fact. What would be the point in watching the NFL if everyone already knew what was going to happen? The fact is we don’t know, maybe we lose, maybe we win. No reason to be overly pessimistic about everything.
And I forgot the link for the quotes.
http://blog.redskins.com/2009/10/21/wednesday-october-21-sherm-lewiss-past-players-speak-up/
by bigrm18 on Oct 22, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
pessimism is just a word you use for people who disagree with you
it’s usage doesn’t make any point whatsoever.
I think our OL is atrocious, and it’s my prediction that it will hamstring any possibility for offensive improvement, or Sherm Lewis’ potential helpfulness, or anything else.
Make whatever analysis and predictions you’d like, and then we can discuss as the season goes on. But don’t label my comments just b/c you don’t agree with them. Disagree with their validity, but your labels are a waste of time.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
You’re a pretty glass half empty guy.
state of mind which negatively colors the perception of life, especially with regard to future events
When someone on this post shows any ray of hope or optimism you crush it with laughing at them or posting a negative, pessimistic comment, that’s a fact jack.
by Parks Smith on Oct 22, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
debate my arguments
not me.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
Are you sure you want that, I’m a masterdebater.
You are perfectly entitled to your arguments and they are completely logical and most likely right. But if someone says they are excited about the game or have a good feeling about the game why do you have to bring them down with your “arguments” or by laughing at the post? Just let them have a good feeling and enjoy themselves. Thats what beautiful about sports, no matter how crappy your team is they can pull out a W any given day, and you can have a hell of a time at a game win or lose.
If we won Monday, would you be happy? Or come back Monday with more negative interludes?
I admit I was a little harsh to monk81, but generally speaking, if you can’t handle me disagreeing with a given opinion, I’m afraid you need to try harder to enjoy yourself.
I’m not telling people to not like the Redskins, I’m telling them I think expectations of a win are strongly misguided.
Significant difference.
If we won Monday, would you be happy? Or come back Monday with more negative interludes?
I’m happy when we win, but after a decade of not being a contender, my attention is increasingly turned towards the bigger picture:
are we improving? do we have a good coach? have we been drafting well?
I went to the Rams game and had a great time, but afterwards was I happy about my franchise? hellz no.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
In all fairness
Your post didn’t bother me. I don’t believe i offered any analysis. Unless my comment about Jobu not hitting a curve ball is relevant. (see below)
nice
you always manage to turn to insults.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
Its not an insult, I like you smuts, you’re a football guy. But when it comes to fan’s emotions you are our Debbie Downer. Just a nickname not an insult.
word.
I just wish Dan Snyder would put a product on the field that allowed me to turn my amazing forces of analysis towards franchise success.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
He is a lemon
Smutsboy1 // is a “lemon.” Come Monday night after the skins victory we can get some water and sugar and make lemonade out of him !!
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 22, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
you do not provide arguments just repeat the same facts everyone knows
over and over…….
by BayAreaBullet on Oct 22, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, not really
Pessimism is a word I use to describe people who always think that the worst possible situation is going to occur. Would it kill you to say “hmm… who knows, maybe we pull this one out” instead of always thinking of a reason that we will lose or always thinking that something negative is going happen? I don’t have a problem with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, in fact I enjoy having discussions about the Redskins here on Hogs Haven, but it just gets tiring lately with everyone bashing the Redskins. I’d go on a Cowdungs’ website if I wanted to hear how much we suck, or always wanted negative information about us.
And when did I label your comment? I said “no reason to be overly pessimistic about everything.” That was a general comment towards everyone. I would have said “no reason for YOU to be overly pessimistic…” if I was specifically talking about you being pessimistic.
by bigrm18 on Oct 22, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pessimism is a word I use to describe people who always think that the worst possible situation is going to occur.
That’s a bit of an exaggeration, and disconnected from recent Skins results. Predicting a loss is not only not ‘the worst possible thing’, it’s frequently prudent and ultimately correct with a Snyder-built team. That’s why predictions are a matter of opinion/debate, not pessimism or optimism.
Would it kill you to say "hmm… who knows, maybe we pull this one out" instead of always thinking of a reason that we will lose or always thinking that something negative is going happen?
Would it kill me? I don’t know, it’s not my prerogative, I don’t know how else to put it. I love watching my team. I spend $100’s every year so I get to watch them on tv. But am I going to convince myself we have a chance to win when logically I don’t think it’s likely? No. It’s not my style.
Also it’s not like I’m insane for expecting losses and poor play from this team. I’m not one of those Yankee fans who wanted to trade ARod out of town the minute he struck out in a post season game.
I don’t have a problem with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, in fact I enjoy having discussions about the Redskins here on Hogs Haven, but it just gets tiring lately with everyone bashing the Redskins.
Yeah but that’s a product of the team sucking, not of irrational and undaunted pessimism. If this team was winning and everyone was still negative, I’d totally agree with you.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
All I'm saying is that
No one knows. I’m pretty sure no one had the Raiders winning against the Eagles and there’s been plenty of upsets in the NFL thus far, plus we always play the NFC East close, so is inconceivable to think that we could win at home? I’ve never even said that we would win, all I’ve been saying is that we don’t know. Yet, a lot of people act as if they know for a fact that we will lose and will never win a game again.
our offensive line won’t let us do anything of the sort.
That quote is pessimistic to me. You could have said “it’s possible that the O-line can improve and impress us all, but I just don’t see that happening.” Saying something like that doesn’t seem one bit pessimistic or optimistic to me, it seems realistic if anything. However, how is it impossible for the O-line to hold up or do enough for us to get a win? All I want is for people to think about both the negative and positive aspects of this team. Saying “our offensive line won’t let us do anything of the sort” is thinking about the negative without the positive, and that in my opinion is pessimism.
well yeah, my comments get cynical instead of diplomatic
but again, 10 years into the Snyder era, the results rarely end in something worth me being diplomatic over.
This franchise is in a very bad place right now, in my opinion, and personally it’s not my prerogative to give lip service to the possibility that Mike Williams, Stephen Heyer and Will Montgomery are going to start being good.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
I agree
This franchise is in a very bad place right now, but it’s not going to get any better by thinking worse case scenario. This is the NFL, and all I’m saying and all I will continue to say this season is that no one knows…
by bigrm18 on Oct 22, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't affect things one way or the other
it’s not going to get any better by thinking worse case scenario.
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
I understand where you're coming from
It’s actually nice to see a reality based objective point of view from a fan instead always being a homer for the skins. Always predicting a win is great and that’s what keeps the team going. Alcohol and a win is always a homer.
Some of us think that going to the games isn’t such a great experience anymore because this team is now more predictable than ever. Isn’t that why we all love to go to the games, because you just dont know whats going to happen. Well I don’t think it’s hard to predict what’s going to happen. That’s why the stadium has become more empty every week.
I’m a half glass full type of guy but I’ve recently changed to the opposite for once in my life. So what’s the big deal about that? This site is for everyone! I’m sure their are others that are still predicting the Skins to win the Super Bowl if anyone needs constant reassurance of the Skins.
By the way I already know I don’t have to go to the games if I don’t want to, so don’t bother.
to get a nice positive, objective view
Read the very intelligent and not-at-all unrealistic fanpost by monk81. That guy must really smart.
Makes sense
So does that mean Randle el is on the pine all game?
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 12:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I doubt that happens. Jesus couldn't even call winning plays w/ our oline
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I see you've
Been hit with the pessimistic bug as well Kevin.
by bigrm18 on Oct 22, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Skins game...
How can you not be, unless you watch Skins games like this…
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
this looks like a younger version of that John guy...
that runs up and down the aisles next to you. haha
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that video true or a hoax
It wouldn’t have anything to do with bug pesticides and mercury and other all natural ingriedients in the shot would it?
I'll take a crack at those 5 questions...
1.) Why does Andy Reid refuse to run the ball?
He doesn’t always, which actually makes it more frustrating. When they have a balanced attack, the offense just hums. But occasionally, he just completely abandons the run. He did last year in the tie against Cincy, he did it in the Week 16 loss to you guys last year, he did it this past week against the Raiders. It’s mind boggling, and I kind of don’t really have an answer as the “why” part of that question.
My much bigger issue with Reid is his GOD AWFUL clock management. I wrote about the dumbest timeout I’ve ever seen here…
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2009/10/19/1091305/the-2-02-timeout-why-it-was-so
2.) How much does Witherspoon add to a depleted LB core?
Huge trade. Our linebackers have been absolute garbage so far this year (with the exception of Akeem Jordan). I hated the Trotter signing from the beginning. It made no sense whatsoever, but I’m glad they recognized the enormous hole there and did something about it. It’s actually quite remarkable how good the rest of the defense has been despite the poor play of the linebackers
3.) Six weeks in, any regrets letting Dawkins go?
I had regret 6 seconds in, much less 6 weeks. I don’t agree with your buddy who thinks we brought in Trotter to replace Dawkins’ leadership. That’s nonsense. They brought in Trotter because our linebackers sucked (and that experiment failed miserably). The sooner we cut Trotter the better. But back to Dawkins… The bottom line is that he can still play at a high level, period. I might be oversimplifying this, but are the Philadelphia Eagles a better team with Dawkins? Absolutely. On a side note, Macho Harris, I feel, has played very well so far, although I’m extremely disappointed with the lack of progress from the guy that was the odds on favorite to win the job this year, Quintin Demps.
4.) Has McNabb lost a step?
I don’t think so. He has an abysmal game or 2 (sometimes 3) every year. Last week in Oakland wasn’t anything we haven’t seen before. However, he’s usually an excellent QB, as he was in his 2 other games this year.
5.) Barbaro trash talk and Game Prediction.
The Redskins, once a proud and storied franchise, is now… um… well, I’m not gonna go there. 33-6 Eagles.
If we score a touchdown...
how many people are going to scream “BINGO?” I know i will…
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we won't have to worry about that then...
because we probably won’t score. I think we will end up with 15 delay of game penalties
Sherm Lewis...who is in the booth...
is calling the play down to Sherm Smith on the field…who then sends it to Jason…
not a lot of time w/ all that relays…esp with players in motion. Campbell was quoted as saying he’s going to have some plays in mind in case they play is not in on time. (queue the circus music).
by Kevin Ewoldt on Oct 22, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
O really Kevin, is that how it works thanks for letting me know. Like I said before they will probably be using a number system that is not very confusing, these people do have brains. A lot of teams, San Diego for one, uses the backup QB to call in plays. I don’t really think we are going to be having a big issue monday night.
unmitigated, even
If Dan Snyder cared about anything besides his ego he'd hire a good GM and take a back seat.
It will be comical if we win
Think about it. Really it is set up for us to be that team that surprises everyone and Vegas cleans house!!!
I'll scream
“BINGO!, HALLELUJAH!, IT’S A MIRACLE!, THANK YOU JEBUS!”
And I’ll probably feel like this IF we win.
Haha...
Cutting of your coach’s balls Stripping the head coach of his play-calling duties and giving them to guy that you hired as a “consultant” a couple weeks ago against a division opponent that happens to have a pretty good defense and loves to blitz the hell out of you when they smell as much as a drop of blood… Brilliant!
I love the realism over here...
I give you guys credit for kind of calling it like it is. I wasn’t expecting that.
Before our game against the Chiefs, they were all saying KC would win, and it was like “Seriously?!?!? No wait… Seriously?!?”
And then the same thing with the Bucs fans – They were a little too confident as well for being such a bad, bad team.
And then the RAIDERS fans… They were like… Uh, bad example… Nevermind.
well
I have no idea what to think about Monday nights game. I think we lose again, and it will be up to our D to keep the game from being a complete embarrassment. The Offense isnt expected to do much, but I hope the D doesnt crumble and turn into a game like the Pats vs Titans. Ouch.
Et lux in tenebris lucet
on second thought...
maybe we DO need a complete meltdown, as a whole. not just a sluggish offense. wouldnt it be a BITCH if we came out and scored 40 points? lol Snyder will be like SEE!!! I TOLD YOU!! and nothing will change. :sigh:
Et lux in tenebris lucet
EAGLES 3 TIME NFL CHAMPIONS!!
Let me help you Redskin fans who try to say the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl. First off, the term Super Bowl is brand name like “Happy Meal”. Who gives a CRAP?? It’s a kid’s meal! Got it Hog Head’s? Now for your education.
The 1948 and 1949 Philadelphia Eagles won back to back championships with Pete Pihos and Greasy Neale. They were a dominating bunch that your Redskins could not handle. In ’48 we beat you 45-0! and 42-13! and you guys were 7-5 that year!
In 1960, The Beasts from the Philly East beat Vince Lombardi and our 2-way strong man Chuck Bednarik sat on the guy to run the clock out. The Eagles in 1960 were lights out! Our running back was the all-time leader of his day. There was no AFL that was a threat in those days, so the Eagles dominance was amoungst fewer teams and more concentrated talent. Not like these Super Bowl’s of this huge league that can’t even find competent QB’s. The Skin’s haven’t had a good QB since Thiesman.
Some Super Bowl facts for those who love term Super Bowl. The term Super Bowl wasn’t even used until the 3rd!!!! NFL/AFL Championship Game! OVERRATED!
Refer to our Eagles as “3 Time NFL Champion Eagles!” Then we can talk. By the way the skins stink!
So you want to talk about history
Why do all you Iggle fans say that us Redskin fans live in the past, yet you want to go all the way back to the 1940’s!?!?!
Well, Mr. Iggle fan let me give you just a little bit of history.
The Iggles have an overall win percentage of .480 since the inception of their franchise. The Redskins have a win percentage of .520. Only two teams (Giants, Bears) who were established in 1932 or before have a better win percentage than the Redskins.
The Iggles have 21 playoff appearances, the Redskins have 22.
The Iggles have 3 championships, the Redskins have 5
The Iggles have 3 conference championships, the Redskins have 5
The Iggles have 11 division championships, the Redskins have 12
The Iggles have 12 HoFers, the Redskins have 17
Most importantly, we have a 77-66-6 record against the Iggles
Just face it, overall we’re better than you in every way.
let's talk recent history...
i’m obviously an iggles fan checking in on this great gameday thread, and not to stir the pot too much, but what have the skins done recently compared to what the birds have done recently? let’s go back 10 years. it massively favors the eagles.
As much history as both teams have (Skins may be more decorated as of now), looking at things in a more recent light gives you a better idea of what franchise is doing the best right now.
i’ll take 10+ years of good to great football, rather than the constant choking (starting 6-2, finishing 2-6) and whining that can be heard from the nations capital.
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