Bizarre Quotes Continue Out of Redskins Park
by KevinE on Oct 21, 2009 9:15 AM EDT
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Just as I was typing up this piece on Sherman Smith's interview with Kelli Johnson today, I noticed friend and blogger extraordinaire, Dan Steinberg, had posted some similar quotes from Portis' thoughts on Snyder and Zorn's struggles to deal with his manhood being ripped away.
Portis: "And I think the pressure [is] on Mr. Snyder, and he want to win so bad. And everybody's [saying] 'Oh, get him out of here, he need to sell the team, he's what's [wrong].' It's not him. I think he brings in everybody that he could possibly bring in that he think gonna help this team. I think if you look at the talent on our team, we've got a lot of talent. We've got great players. We've gotta go out and do it. It's no coaches playing for us, it's nobody in the front office playing for us. The scout evaluators, whoever they bring in, I mean, they evaluate talent. We've got talent. It's just the execution. So it's on us."
More on this below, but blaming the execution is a load of crap. The players have not been held accountable for any of their mistakes, and this falls on the Coach.
Sherman Smith's response to losing the play-calling to Sherman Lewis:
No question it was disappointing because I didn't think the play calling was the problem. I told my guys, 'Look at the run game plan and the pass game plan, and if you can show me any plays on there that will work without us executing, let us know what plays those are and we'll call them all the time.'
On some level I agree. There have been so many missed blocks, dropped balls, and bad mistakes. However, your job as a coach is to rip them for their mistakes. The Redskins Country Club is back in full effect and the lack of effort/passion shows with missed tackles and the general lack of focus.
Sherman Smith's response if Jason Campbell's career is in jeopardy:
I am a Jason Campbell fan. He'll respond well. There have been Hall of Fame quarterbacks that have been benched. If he's not playing here next year, he'll be playing somewhere. And he'll start. If he's given time to develop into a system, there is not a throw he can't make. When he gets into a system where people say, "you're our guy,"...he's going to flourish and be very successful.
Huh? Why can't Campbell be that guy here? Reading into this, Campbell does have the skills, but the front office won't ever give Campbell the time to develop since the Front Office is so impatient for results. Obviously, JC has never been "our" guy after all the coaching changes and Cutler/Sanchez talks. Another bright spot for Vinny.
The truth is, it is on the coaches just as much as the players. If the players are not "executing," then they need to be benched, traded, or cut. If that's not an option, then you need to ream these players to get it right in practice, or change the plays to ones they can do. If these players cannot execute, then whoever decided to bring in this talent needs to admit their mistakes and correct them. It took Gibbs three years to clean up Spurrier's mess, and here we are again....right back in the crapper.
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sooo...
how long does it take exactly for the FO to develop and flourish??
JJ Fe
by Rydaddy617 on Oct 21, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this doesn't compare.....
but in high school…..we had about 20 offensive plays……maybe! It wasn’t that we weren’t smart enough to learn more, it was because sometimes….execution outways talent. We had a small team…..everyone was undersized for their position….so my coach chose to cut out the playbook….and master these 20 plays…..and put us in the best condition we could ever be. Other teams new what we were doing….but couldn’t stop us. In the 4th quarter…..our conditioning took over! That’s how we won…..and that was an adjustment our coach made for the better of the team.
I am not saying the Skins should run 20 plays….but I question what they are practicing. When you watch a game….everyone seems either confused…or just lazy. It is like they run each play a couple times in practice and move on to the next trying to expand a playbook when they cold work on really learning and understanding fewer plays. I actually like Zorn as a coach…..but he does need to step up and call out players for execution. He is too much of a nice guy….and the country club reference above was right on. These are grown f&*%ing men you are dealing with….treat them like it. Just my opinion!
by shvd98z24 on Oct 21, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good analogy.
I agree, up until the part about calling out players. Someone like DeAngelo knows that he missed two big tackles in a game, and is definitely going to be force fed the videos of it and what he should have done differently. Calling out a player publicly does little more than insult and embarass both sides.
by SSBlitz on Oct 21, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on how it's done....
I don’t think you even need to do it in a public forum……but you never hear of anyone getting “yelled at” in practice or after games. There is a right and wrong way to do everything, and I think as long as you are tactful about something…..it is along the lines of constructive criticism. I wouldn’t condone him being on SportsCenter calling Sellers a big mouthed, non-blocking, piece of shit…..but I would condone him highlighting those missed blocks in practice in front of the team to hold him accountable. These guys make millions of dollars……if they can’t take being told they are wrong or are not working hard enough…..who could be told that?
by shvd98z24 on Oct 21, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But on the flip side of that
This team has nobody else to replace a guy like Hall incase he NEEDS to be embarassed. He knows the depth behind him sucks, combine that with the huge contract he was given and he’s got this team by the BALLS.
The country club reference is a perfect example but it starts at the top by Dan not holding Vinny accountable just as much as it is at the players/coaching level.
by skinsymets on Oct 21, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quotes
First of all, that Sherm Smith quote about plays that don’t require execution is priceless. Second of all, I love Portis, but over the years I’ve come to treat his interviews as nothing more than entertainment.
Finally, the “problem,” as I see it (and have written before in this space) is systemic. So the facts about Snyder — that he “wants to win” (which I’ve heard a lot lately); that he “spends money” (ditto); that he “brings in talent” (ditto) — shouldn’t play a role in this discussion. Whatever’s he done thus far has clearly failed miserably, and it isn’t a big secret that there are tried and true paths to long-lasting success in the NFL. For some reason, and despite the empirical evidence that suggests otherwise, Snyder thinks that he has a better method.
As an aside, I remember listening to an interview he gave to Doc Walker back in April as part of the draft coverage. Doc asked about teams like the Steelers and the Patriots as models for building a successful team year in and year out. Snyder’s answer actually touted the Redskins’ methods of player evaluation and system of decisionmaking as just as workable a model (or something like that). I was screaming at my radio before he finished talking.
by artmonk4ever on Oct 21, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
you would thing....
with Snyder being a successful business man, he would have a good approach for building a team. I am not sure where his model was developed….but it’s basic business. When you take on something like this….you do research…..what has worked in the past in other similar situations….what has not. You have over 100 years of football to look at to build this business model and I am pretty sure no successful teams could have consistently shown that overspending and constant change leads to a successful NFL team. He needs to go back to the drawing board…….actually do some homework…and develop a new business model to build off of!
by shvd98z24 on Oct 21, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brilliant post. this summarizes a vast majority of our problems
Finally, the "problem," as I see it (and have written before in this space) is systemic. So the facts about Snyder — that he "wants to win" (which I’ve heard a lot lately); that he "spends money" (ditto); that he "brings in talent" (ditto) — shouldn’t play a role in this discussion. Whatever’s he done thus far has clearly failed miserably, and it isn’t a big secret that there are tried and true paths to long-lasting success in the NFL. For some reason, and despite the empirical evidence that suggests otherwise, Snyder thinks that he has a better method.
This draft pick. That play call. This player. That coach.
None of it matters as long as A) Snyder insists on playing a major role in player personnel and B) we don’t have a good GM
Until these two things change, it’s all window dressing.
Snyder sees what the Pats, Colts, Eagles, Giants, etc do*, and he’s not interested.
*(build through the draft, stick to a plan, make the playoffs every year)
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the coaches.
But play-calling has definitely been a problem too. The players need a spark to re-energize themselves. Redskins have had a problem playing down to their opponents for years now, and obviously losing to two bottom-dwellers (I still consider Giants and Carolina decent) is evidence of that. Maybe a division game on MNF will be the stage we need to get motivated to perform. I hope so anyways.
by SSBlitz on Oct 21, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree playcalling is a problem
but not the way most see it. IMO the WCO is completely wrong for this team and until they get back to basic football essentially it doesn’t matter what play they call.
by skinsymets on Oct 21, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a product of the system!
the play calling is the straw that broke the camel’s back!!! Why sweep left when your guards can’t block worth a damn. Why keep Cooley in to block, when he gets plowed over? It is a jail break every down! I tell you, let Snyder and Cerrato go under center, and lets see how long it takes to FIX THE LINE!!!!
by brettpedigo on Oct 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portis' comments were...
status quo. He and several other players have been saying that for years. It’s just an attempt to keep everything pretty much the same and ride out those cushy salaries with no inconveniences – like having to practice and play hard or get yelled at. It’s right up there with “we like Zorn,” obviously for the same reasons. I’m calling Bullsh!t on both quotes.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 21, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The System and Coaching is the issue
The system is setup for 100% execution to be succesful, as we can all see without execution the system is a failure.
The players are not executing
The system requires 100% execution to be succesful
The result is failure-Who’s at fault?
Coaches are to place players in position to succeed, where effort and performance are rewarded with results not just failure. Plays succeed and fail depending on the execution, when does a play succeed without execution-NEVER.
The system and coaching, starting with the front office have established as system where everyone is setup to fail instead of establishing a system where everyone can succeed.
by dr WNC on Oct 21, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
EXECUTION OR PLAYCALLING ?
It is all the coaches fault !! Name me one team that executes plays well without good coaching ?? I dare you, no I double dare you ??
How many times during key situations did Zorn call a stupid play that cost us the game ?? ( Can you say Portis Left ??) We have not been getting blown out so better play calling/ selection would have won us every game but maybe the giants game. Go back and look at some of the situations that if Zorn would have done something different we could of had a much better result .
Oh, by the way this is not “Monday Morning Quartebacking” because at the time of the dumb playcalling everybody watching was thinking th same thing . (why in the H…L did he just run portis to the left on back to back plays on the goal line) or (why in the H..L did he run a "Hook And Lateral " instead of throwing the ball in the endzone etc. etc . etc
ZORN AND HIS PLAY CALLING ARE THE PROBLEM /offensive line/ rock on return team and Randle El on punt return. Removing Rock/ for Devin would be a good start.
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 21, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just on the play calling
It’s on the whole attitude that the coach brings. The players like the coach. This is a bad thing.
He thinks that they are adults and he treats them as such. Athletes don’t perform as adults. They may be adults mentally and physically but you treat them like an adult rather than a soldier and they’ll walk all over you. This team is poorly conditioned and has no discipline.
Tom Coughlin was a joke his first year because the players were whining to the media about his “rules”. Look where his rules got them. The players didn’t like him at first but they love him now, now that they know what his rules bring.
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
R-E-S-P-E-C-T !!!!!
Respecting a coach is more important then liking or disliking !! The players don’t respect Zorn because he is or never was head coach material !! Zorn is a fake it to you make it person !! The only problem is that he is not the sharpest person, he is a little dense!!
by LETJASONPASS on Oct 22, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my take
is that both (talent and play calling) are problems. Look at what’s said and who said it. Portis, one of the guys who isn’t what he used to be, claims they have talent. He wouldn’t start for 1/2 the teams in the NFL. How many of our OL would start on ANY other team? How many of our players would be starters somewhere else? Haynesworth and Cooley would start for most teams. Moss could start as a #2 WR, JC in some places (NYJ, Detriot, Cleveland and others), London Fletcher, Orakpo as a pass rushing DE, Landry if he would remember how to tackle, Rogers as a #2 CB. Not many others.
But play calling has been terrible too. We’ve all noticed the vanilla game plans and the way our CB’s play 10 yards off the LOS.
Despite the semi decent record most people consider us one of the worst teams in the NFL and yet we went 8-8 last year with worse talent (no Haynesworth or Orakpo). How can that not be a coaching problem?
by aFan4Life on Oct 21, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really like how everything gets twisted and turned until it all goes back to Dan, and Vinny. When New England does it (bring in all sorts of free agents ) there being resourcefull, when we do it (once again who cares how much Dan spends its his money not mine) were trying to buy a championship. At least he’s trying some teams dont spend anymoney or bring in anyone and they never win there is no right way to go about it.
The Rod has spoken
by Rodskin on Oct 21, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here's the difference and it's HUGE
Vinny Ceratto is not a real GM or V.P. or whatever he is supposed to be. He’s a COWARD is really what he is. Everyone knows he’s doing the talent evaluating, but now that their’s no depth what so ever, it’s really not his fault. I mean come on, it has to be the coach.
The entire NFL builds teams through the draft and supplements through FA.
Vinny Ceratto builds team through FA and supplements through the draft. Its so ridiculous he’s pulling guys off the street. i.e. Williams at RT and now our playcaller who has been out of football for 5 years was never really even a playcaller. Oh yeah throw in the fact that VINNY hired a West Coast Offense guy, who never called plays before(ZORN), that doesn’t fit the personell on this team. Not to mention that they won’t even fire the guy because their afraid of looking bad. Talk about a joke of a franchise. How’s that for a wake up call.
Look I’m not saying nothing falls on the players and coaches but until a real GM is inserted AND Dan stays out of his way completely it doesn’t matter who the players and coaches are.
by skinsymets on Oct 21, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
worth hightlighting:
Look I’m not saying nothing falls on the players and coaches but until a real GM is inserted AND Dan stays out of his way completely it doesn’t matter who the players and coaches are.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the owner stay out of the way its HIS team he signs the checks.
The Rod has spoken
by Rodskin on Oct 21, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because after 10 years
SOMETHING needs to change in the way this team operates
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 21, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he doesn't know sh-t about putting together a football team
No owner does.
Successful owners know how to hire good GMs and Team Presidents, and then stay the f- out of the way except in very rare circumstances.
But you and Danny can keep clinging to his same failed tactic and hope one day it turns up a different result.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Dan knows zip about football
So then let’s assume for a moment that Vinny knows what he’s been doing even remotely. What has happened in the last ten years?, disaster that’s what. But why take my word for it. Listen to what good sound football minds all around the NFL are saying about the Skins. Some have been saying it for years. He’s created a gigantic mess with the cap that could ground this team for the next few years.
by skinsymets on Oct 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Danny’s place in the team should be helping to decide on the contracts and negotiations: length, amount and how they can work it into the cap.
He also should be in charge of making money on the business side…which is another place he’s gonna be hurting. If this team were anything other than the Redskins it would be bankrupt now. The only reason the teams been a top earner of the past decade is that ‘Skins fans and the team are in an abusive relationship. Ownership does everything it can to make the fans go away, but they keep coming back. Not saying we as fans should quit on the team in spirit, but I think everyone gets what I’m saying.
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats it in a nutshell dude.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
by GeoFly on Oct 21, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at what the Pats pat for their free agents
About 1/10th of what Snyder does. They stole Randy moss from Oakland
by KevinE on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
but...
the fact alone that they are NE prob allows them to negotiate with players a little better. Some players are willing to take pay cuts for the op to play in the SB!! (some of them anyway).
JJ Fe
by Rydaddy617 on Oct 21, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a whole lot of players
and not for a whole lot of money.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NE has built the Myth of the Team
being more important than any individual so now it is a reality. So players take smaller salaries to be a role player on a playoff caliber team. Snyder overpays and it has to cause friction and does anything but draw a team together. And it certainly does not foster competition (hence depth) at every position since the overpaid players know they will start.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 21, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which players have taken significantly less money to stay on the Pats?
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady did before his most recent contract extension
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you have numbers?
I honestly don’t remember this at all
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah
I can’t find them now, I heard it in passing 4 years ago, but I could’ve been mistaken.
More recently there’s this article about him taking a cut to accommodate Randy Moss’s meager salary:
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2007/05/01/tom-brady-restructures-to-accommodate-randy-mosss-salary/
Adding to that, Moss took a pay cut to play in New England
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, and that
“myth” started with Belicheck and co. building a team HIS WAY. Meaning they had a plan, which we lack. The Pats haven’t always paid for top tier free agents. The core of their team was always built through the draft, and they still do that. That’s why they have a plethora of draft picks every year. And, to add to the “team is more important than the individual”, he started down that path by dumping Lawyer MIlloy. That shocked everyone. He showed that, aside from Brady, NOBODY on the team is safe. He let Ty Law walk, then Asante Samuel, then he traded Seymour and Vrabel. All “team leaders”. Hell, Seymour is a top tier pass rusher IN HIS PRIME. Who the hell would think of getting rid of him? Answer? Two people – Belicheck and Parcells. Popular decisions? No. But their teams are always competitive.
Now, on the flip side, we keep guys like Portis, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas OUR WHOLE O-LINE, Betts, Daniels, Griffin, etc, etc. WAY past the point of good production. We don’t know when to cut the cord. Until we do, things will never STAY better.
by CJHutch on Oct 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has a point...
Part of it is that they players aren’t executing the single plays.
The larger part is that there is no flow or reason to the play calling. It’s about calling certain plays at the right times to create discomfort in the defense. Also it’s about calling the right play for the defense that’s on the field and putting on the field the right package of players that you have on your roster.
For instance, on the 4th and 1 on the goal line call: The defense is set up and you call a strong side run with 2 extra blockers on that side. The defense calls time out and rolls out their run stop defense. What do you do? Zorn swapped the field but called the run to the same side. It doesn’t make sense. Every one knew it was going to be a run, they didn’t know where the run was going but they knew they were going to stop it. They also knew that no matter which side is the strong side you’re going to run behind your pro-bowl tackle because that’s all you’ve done the entire game. You’ve set them up the entire short season for this play, but instead of using standard trickery and calling a play-action pass or a bootleg you run the same play and the entire defense was lined up on our left. the entire right side was empty, Campbell could have walked into the end-zone.
More examples: forcing Cooley to stay in blocking when he can’t block, why isn’t Yoder that guy? Why not put portis in as a full back now (as LaVarr has suggested)? Where is Marko Mitchell? He’s on the roster and “active” put him in for possession plays and goal line plays. Why isn’t Santana returning punts? He returned one last week that ARE would’ve fair-caught for about 15 yards and the next punt ARE was back out there.
It’s not just a single play that’s the problem, it’s the play caller not understanding his own players, it’s the play caller not understanding a game plan and then out thinking himself when it matters.
A deep ball that is accurate but dropped still forces the safeties to recognize the possibilities of a deep ball and opens up the run a little bit more…So it’s not just the execution. It’s both.
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
also
the offensive roster blows.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 21, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely put
That can also be traced to coaching though. You don’t get into the NFL by being a worthless individual. A good coach could bring out the best in the worst players. Also as a team just about group of NFL caliber players can win games. When they’re out of sync it is displayed by bad play.
A few of my coaches have some phrases that would apply to this team if they would listen: “Simple things done well win games”, “Team work is trust and communication”, “Practice doesn’t make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect”, and my favorite: “Son, if you don’t get your shit together you’re gonna be calling 1-800-get-my-foot-out-of-your-ass”
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny quote
me and my boy played football together, I was on defense he’s a O-lineman. we’re on opposite sides of the field doing run throughs, and I hear from across the field
“What the f-ck was that! That whole was so small it’d make a (expletive)’s dick hard!”
BEST-PRACTICE-EVER!
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 21, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just got a tweet....
Not seen at practice: Cooley, Horton, Kareem Moore
Not participating: Portis, Haynesworth
Redskins Park Country Club
by KevinE on Oct 21, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta be a reason
Cooley I could see becoming disillusioned, but Horton is way to hungry to be missing practice.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 21, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
H1N1 is spreading heavy in the DC area.
by snowburnt on Oct 21, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard georgetown university got hit hard
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 21, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a little more...
Also, spotted on the sidelines, Daniel Snyder chatting with Jim Zorn… Snyder and Vinny Cerrato were both watching practice. Beautiful day
Horton only played in 1 set during KC, which is odd too
DEFENSE (74 snaps): Via the Times
DL: Kedric Golston 36, Lorenzo Alexander 16, Jeremy Jarmon 13, Albert Haynesworth 56, Phillip Daniels 41, Cornelius Griffin 33, Andre Carter 74.
LB: London Fletcher 74, Brian Orakpo 66, Rocky McIntosh 66, Chris Wilson 8, H.B. Blades 5.
DB: DeAngelo Hall 74, LaRon Landry 73, Carlos Rogers 72, Justin Tryon 23, Fred Smoot 13, Reed Doughty 60,
Chris Horton 1.
Analysis: Hayesworth’s playing time was a season high. … Carter played every snap for the first game this year. … Blades continues to get some here-and-there work to give Orakpo a break. … Smoot played a combined one snap in the Tampa and Carolina games but started vs. KC at safety and played 13 snaps. … Doughty’s total jumped from 20 (Carolina) to 60 (KC). … Horton’s total sunk from 58 snaps to a single play.
by dr WNC on Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not understanding
Why Horton isn’t playing more often than he is. It seriously makes no sense to me at all. Was there some injury or illness that we don’t know about to Horton?
Well, Haynesworth is probably being over dramatic when he acts as if he’s been shot every time he makes a play, but he played the most out of the D-line, except for Carter. Jarmon needs more time on the field as well, but Horton’s time just doesn’t make sense, he’s been playing better than Landry thus far, which is a good yet bad thing at the same time, but more of a bad thing.
This is another case of the coaches not putting the best players on the field, and not putting the team in the best position to succeed.
by bigrm18 on Oct 21, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From Zorn
“Kareem and Chris Horton,” Zorn said, “they had a fever this morning. So instead of trying to get them through and have them be around the other players, we sent them home.” Zorn had also advised all the players to be especially careful about using hand sanitizer, especially in light of what happened in Cleveland.
by dr WNC on Oct 21, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that doesn't
Explain Horton’s limited playing time on Sunday, unless he was also ill that day.
by bigrm18 on Oct 21, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
without reading the rest of the post...
I agree that inevitably on the field it falls on the players shoulders to execute. It might not be the right play called at the right time. but no matter what play is called, the players need to execute it. Far too many blunders and mistakes, stuff that the coaches have no control over, other than yelling, hooting and hollering after the fact. and if that player continues to suck, THEN its up to management to make the switch and cut, trade, fire, whatever needs to be done to bring someone in that can execute that play.
Et lux in tenebris lucet
by burgundyNgold on Oct 21, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Execution
I agree that the problems that the Redskins are having have to do with execution by the players. For over 10 years now, I have seen complete breakdown on the fundamentals of the game. Blocking & tackling basics in particular. The one thing that drives me nuts more than anything else is the lack of spirit & team! They look loke they are just going through the motions on the field rather than trying to go the extra step.
I have been a fan for over 40 years, through the good & the bad. But this is the worst! If I felt like they were trying to win then I would be happier.
For the first time in those 40 years, I am not a fan, really.
Ownership & coaching a only a small part of the problem. The players are professional football players & until they execute like professionals they will continue to ranked as one of the worst teams in the league.
by timson on Oct 21, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You and burgundyNgold make good points, but a major aspect of all of this is that a lot of the players we trot out on offense right now are either mediocre (Portis, ARE, Rabach, Dockery) or outright terrible (Heyer, Fat Mike W, the young WRs).
I think to a certain extent a lot of these guys are playing to the best of their ability- there just isn’t much ability there in the first place.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 22, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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