Quotes from Jim Zorn's Media Day this Morning
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 1:07 PM EDT
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- Sherman Lewis will be doing the play-calling from the Press Box.
Zorn: "It was strongly suggested to me after the game that the play-caller change. Very difficult for me...this is not an easy thing, but the production hasn't been there...I'm not going to speculate on how comfortable Sherm feels. I'll tell you this: He's been here for two weeks.
"We need change. We can't go on scoring six points a week."
Zorn still has the final say on which QB will start, which he hasn't decided yet. Zorn will also maintain his decision duties of whether to go for it on 4th down.
Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell were not considered as candidates in the play-calling decision.
Chris Samuels is out Monday night. I can't imagine he sees another down this year.
"Right now, it's really just chaos," said one player who requested anonymity because of the fear of reprisal from management for speaking candidly. "It's just been one thing after another, and no one knows what's going on and how it's going to work." [Insider]
So, Cerrato highly recommended Jim Zorn originally to be the Offensive Coordinator to Snyder, which has been a disaster from the start. Cerrato used three 2nd round draft picks, which have contributed nothing in regard to on-field presence. What else does Vinny have to do? This team is going backwards and no one is taking accountability. I certainly can't wait to see the play-calling Monday night. I'm ready for a good laugh. Like it matters though, Bill Belichick and Tom Brady couldn't score 20 points with this roster (offensive line).
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Dan Snyder has turned this team into a never-ending circus
We are truly on par with Al Davis and the Raiders.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only thing missing
is Snyder calling plays down to the field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Oct 19, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Belichick and Tom Brady couldn't score 20 points with this roster (offensive line).
Yes they could
Cutler, Peyton, Brees and others could.
The line sucks but the play calling is worse, the coaching is very suspect and Vinny should take all the blame…leaving the organization.
by dr WNC on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
so with that logic...
All Snyder has to do is bring in a new coach and trade away their 1st round picks for a top-tier QB….which he probably will end up doing.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On that note...
Sanchez is showing everyone his true colors….
by brettpedigo on Oct 19, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No and yes
but with 32 teams and injuries it may work in the short term but it won’t work to build a team.
Build the line, develop a top level QB and BUILD A DAMN TEAM DANNY BOY
by dr WNC on Oct 19, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree
There’s no question we need a better OL, but our QBs aren’t helping the situation one bit. The only reason I disagreed with benching Campbell was because his backup is a step BACK in the wrong direction. But, Campbell played awful. There were a lot of missed opportunities this Sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Oct 19, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also doesn't help...
But a fan called into the Junkies this morning saying he saw Cooley, Colt Brennan, and Sellers getting bombed at the Dock…a bar in Landestowne Friday night. 2 days before a game, but still unacceptable for a professional athlete.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if it's true
I agree that it’s totally unacceptable. What? They don’t get paid enough to abstain from drinking? Guys, get a grip on reality.
by aFan4Life on Oct 19, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn't surprise me at all
Zorn is very Spurrier-esque in terms of being way under qualified.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seemed to me
that campbell had some good oppurtunities to make some plays but didnt
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
which plays? where? who was open?
He missed the long one to Santana (which Santana still got BOTH hands on), but other than that..
…
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Todd didnt seem to have a problem on that long pass to Moss which happend to be rite on target
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
Tod did get rid of the ball to the players that were open even if it was just the running back
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which opportunities did Campbell miss?
conversely, besides ONE play, which ones did Collins hit?
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
campbell
also had devin thomas open on the sideline but threw the ball over his outside shoulder rather than leading him inside ! which would have been a big gain ! and did you not notice that I said collins hit the people that happend to be open which most of the time was just the running back ! also campbells pass to moss that hit his out stretched hands was over thrown and if it had been on target it probally would have been 6 points ! no one is usually going to be wide open , campbell just has to give them a chance to make a play on the ball like most WR in the NFL do ! they cant catch a ball thats not thrown to them.
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems to me Campbell missed two throws
and Todd Collins is good at dump offs to the RB.
Got it.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
enlightening observations
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
either way
im sure we can agree on this !!! WTF how did Clinton Portis manage to not get in the damn endzone with one man to beat which was being blocked by Sellers
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Portis is old
and Sellers wasn’t blocking anybody. He lunged at the defender at the second and didn’t do anything.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think
your about as full of shit as a christmas turkey , Portis is only 28 years young and sellers was blocking all the way down the field
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ewwwww!
didn’t know xmas Turkeys were shit-filled
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
by GeoFly on Oct 19, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know people eat Turkey on X-mas
by pas493 on Oct 19, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ummm....people eat just about everything on X,mas
except maybe shit-filled turkeys.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
by GeoFly on Nov 2, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
easy with the ad hominem attacks
sellars was blocking, but unfortunately didn’t finish his block
and if you don’t see Portis slowing down at age 28, the age when most RBs slow down, I don’t know what to tell you.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Example A: LaDanian Tomlinson
Example B: Clinton Tortoise
by pas493 on Oct 19, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Campbell: 9-16, 89 yards, 1 INT
Collins: 6-14, 75 yards,
by pas493 on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably true
but I’d take Campbell over Collins any day of the week. Collins is stuck in quicksand in the pocket. At least JC can tuck it in and pick up a 1st down with his legs. Collins can’t even pick up his legs. Also, I saw Collins miss PLENTY of passes as well. The one to Betts was horrible. How can you miss a guy who’s 5 feet from you?
by CJHutch on Oct 19, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw multiple plays
where Devin Thomas and MK got separation, and Campbell wasn’t even looking or chose to go to his comfort zone – anywhere Moss is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
which plays?
and did you catch it on replay (or were you at the game)?
I find it’s really hard to see the WRs from the game feed.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 20, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
“I find it’s really hard to see the WRs from the game feed.” I sure can’t tell from watching the game on TV which is why I haven’t said anything.
by aFan4Life on Oct 20, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's impossible, unless they show full-field replays
I would pay good money to have access to the coaches’ birds-eye view each week.
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 20, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be cool
I’d pay for that too!
by aFan4Life on Oct 20, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I was there
and I had a 45-yard line bird’s eye view. I don’t mean to imply that he had all day to throw on every play or that he always missed a wide open receiver. But there is no denying that better QBs would have made more plays and probably even scored. It was one of JC’s worst performances that I’ve seen live. He was rushing his throws and just looked generally inaccurate, even when he did have time. Regardless, he’s our best QB option and taking him out is a waste of time (no matter what Sonny Jurgensen says).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
It would be a big mistake to bring in a top pick QB ! To much of a risk that he will be a bust
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree. A QB without an oline will just turn into failure
like that of Oakland (Russell), San Fran (A. Smith) or Detroit (Stafford).
The Offensive Line is Snyder's Fault
by smutsboy1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Problem is
2 year ago, drafted 2 WR and 1 TE in the second round, when we already had Cooley and Moss, if only 1 of those pick was spend on the OL, we would not have these problem
by a hay on Oct 19, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Players going out on Friday night
I have seen a bunch of these guys out on Friday night before this year. Used to see Samuels at Kirkpatricks in Ashburn a lot. Last year, Sellers, Thomas and Betts were up at Clyde’s in Ashburn all the time and I was at the Dock this year for the kick-off party which Haynesworth, Hall, and Orakpo were at. Apparently, a lot of them hangout at Jackson’s in Reston Towncenter as well. It’s nothing new, and I don’t think it’s that big of a deal since it’s Friday night. If they were out boozing it up on Sat. night, then I would have an issue with it.
by tmarine17 on Oct 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with it if we're winning....
but getting hammered and then still losing, especially Sellers who for a 3rd straight game missed a block the resulted in fewer points.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do we even know
That they were hammered? How do we know that weren’t there having a good time with one another and drinking soda, juice, or water? If they did drink alcohol, how do we know that it wasn’t only one drink? According to you, someone just called and said that they saw them getting bombed. But who was that someone and what would force me to believe him?
Are we also going to fault them for making love to their wives because we’re losing? They’re football players, but they’re humans first and foremost. It seems a little ridiculous to get mad at the players for having a few drinks (IF they had a few drinks) two days before the game, whether we win or lose. According to recent comments, it seems like this team has forced a lot of people to start drinking.
by bigrm18 on Oct 19, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we don’t know anything, all we know is 3 Redskins were hanging out at a restaurant.
by pas493 on Oct 19, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's just a rumor
but regardless I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect people who are being paid millions of dollars per year to not drink for a few months. There’s lots of jobs out there where you can drink but they don’t pay the millions.
by aFan4Life on Oct 19, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats rite
they are grown men !! if they were getting drunk at least they are doing something rite
by skinaholic on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caller
Yea, who knows if it’s true, but the caller said they def were not drinking water/soda and that they were quite awhile. The Junkies took it with a grain of salt, but said they get a lot of these calls and even they have seem them out, so it prob is true. Who knows…just another sign the Redskins organization is a gravy train.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at this point
I don’t think I really care. I mean, can you blame them? Hell, I’d get hammered too. These guys MUST know that they’re wasting the prime of their careers spitting into the wind with this horribly run team.
by CJHutch on Oct 19, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to a point
I’ve worked for crappy management so I know how frustrating it is but I think I’d care a bit more if I were making millions.
Given the multitude of other problems with the team, I doubt it would really matter if the whole team showed up hammered to play the game. We’d still have the same vanilla game plan that we’ve used for 6 weeks straight, our Cbs would still be playing 10 yards off the line of scrimmage, we’d still blow time outs left and right, and we’d still use our “tiny” WR package in the red zone.
by aFan4Life on Oct 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, if they
WERE hammered come game time, maybe they could start getting open. The other teams defenders wouldn’t want to risk being hurled on.
by CJHutch on Oct 19, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm expecting rumors of Cooley wanting a trade any day now
These guys MUST know that they’re wasting the prime of their careers spitting into the wind with this horribly run team.
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cooley, Randle El, Portis, and Anthony Montgomery trade
to Cleveland for Shawn Rogers, Josh Cribbs, and their 1st Round pick.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvIX3S0f-2c&feature=player_embedded
by VA_Skin on Oct 19, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree if they are getting hammered
but every time I saw them out last year, they were gone by 11 and didn’t look all that intoxicated. Maybe this “fan” was bombed and really didn’t know if they were or not. Regardless, they obviously don’t give a shit either way and are just punting this year away. I think in the last 6 years the discipline around here has been lacking and it’s starting to show.
by tmarine17 on Oct 19, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if they were winning
I wouldn’t care but they’re losing, badly. And the evidence that alcohol diminishes athletic performance is overwhelming so considerign what these guys make, I think it’s reasonable to expect them to lay off for a few months (during the season).
by aFan4Life on Oct 19, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/10/jim-zorn-presser-im-going-to-comply-with-that.html
There is our summary.
It really was depressing to watch. Jim Zorn simply looked like a broken man.
by DCPSR on Oct 19, 2009 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man, not good
I’ve played hockey for a coach that doesn’t know what he’s doing…sucks. Practices were abysmal….he needs to go….get someone in here w/ some nads.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed the best one!
At the end of the press conference, Zorn is asked: “Are you aware of the perception around the league that Sherman Lewis really is not a very good play caller?”
Zorn: “You’ll have to ask Vinny about that.”
Vinny is going down with the ship folks. He has been completely in charge of all decisions since Gibbs retired, and they have all been terrible. Of course Snyder is to blame, too, but I find it impossible (even trying to think of the most impossible occurrence possible) that Vinny is around next year. I hope.
by Boo. on Oct 19, 2009 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll get my cello ready just in case
SpotieOtieDopalicious
by Rekka on Oct 19, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks....great quote...
Can you imagine the party at Fedex Field if Cerrato got canned? It would be 3x over a Super Bowl parade.
by KevinE on Oct 19, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
when exactly did VC take over personnel decisions
Was it the 2008 draft or did he have some control before that?
by aFan4Life on Oct 19, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a 2 part question
At the end of the presser Zorn was asked the “are you aware” question of Lewis’ play calling rep. And Zorn responded “No, I’m not aware of that”.
The the question: “Is Viiny aware” of the perception…… Then Zorn gave his response: You’ll have to ask Vinny about that".
However, Vinny is not talking. Snyderatto leaving Zorn to air dry himself. Zorn playing team guy will not back stab Lewis and Vinny hiding without accountability
by oinc on Oct 20, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did VC draft Akili Smith?
Has the mark of his handiwork all over the deal.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 19, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I meant Alex Smith
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
by Scott E on Oct 19, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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